Re: Change to Subversion PMC rule for approving backports

2019-09-18 Thread Bert Huijben
+1 Thanks Julian! On Tue, Sep 17, 2019 at 5:11 PM Branko Čibej wrote: > On 17.09.2019 16:53, Julian Foad wrote: > > Bert Huijben wrote: > > +1 on reducing the number of required votes to just 2 +1s. > > > > We have consensus in this thread for reducing the requirement for > > regular

Re: Change to Subversion PMC rule for approving backports

2019-09-17 Thread Branko Čibej
On 17.09.2019 16:53, Julian Foad wrote: > Bert Huijben wrote: > +1 on reducing the number of required votes to just 2 +1s. > > We have consensus in this thread for reducing the requirement for > regular (non-LTS) releases to two "+1" votes, but not to just one. Thanks for pushing this

Re: Change to Subversion PMC rule for approving backports

2019-09-17 Thread Julian Foad
Bert Huijben wrote: +1 on reducing the number of required votes to just 2 +1s. We have consensus in this thread for reducing the requirement for regular (non-LTS) releases to two "+1" votes, but not to just one. Published in http://svn.apache.org/r1867064 - Julian

Re: Change to Subversion PMC rule for approving backports

2019-09-06 Thread Julian Foad
Fri Sep 06 07:14:56 GMT+01:00 2019 Branko Čibej : > On 06.09.2019 07:49, Julian Foad wrote: > > > > Bert Huijben wrote: > >> Why just one +1? > >> I like the second eye rule we currently have, so one +1 from the nominator > >> and one additional eye. > >> For bindings we have +- the same

Re: Change to Subversion PMC rule for approving backports

2019-09-06 Thread Branko Čibej
On 06.09.2019 07:49, Julian Foad wrote: > > Bert Huijben wrote: >> Why just one +1? >> I like the second eye rule we currently have, so one +1 from the nominator >> and one additional eye. >> For bindings we have +- the same rule, but one of the eyes can be someone >> else than a full committer.

Re: Change to Subversion PMC rule for approving backports

2019-09-05 Thread Julian Foad
Bert Huijben wrote: > Why just one +1? > I like the second eye rule we currently have, so one +1 from the nominator > and one additional eye. > For bindings we have +- the same rule, but one of the eyes can be someone > else than a full committer. (Not sure if we still have any active partial

Re: Change to Subversion PMC rule for approving backports

2019-09-05 Thread Bert Huijben
Why just one +1? I like the second eye rule we currently have, so one +1 from the nominator and one additional eye. For bindings we have +- the same rule, but one of the eyes can be someone else than a full committer. (Not sure if we still have any active partial committers though) As always,

Re: Change to Subversion PMC rule for approving backports

2019-09-03 Thread Julian Foad
Julian Foad wrote: > The proposed change now looks like this: > > old: > > http://subversion.apache.org/docs/community-guide/releasing.html#release-stabilization-how-many-votes > > new: > >

Re: Change to Subversion PMC rule for approving backports

2019-09-03 Thread Julian Foad
The proposed change now looks like this: old: http://subversion.apache.org/docs/community-guide/releasing.html#release-stabilization-how-many-votes new: http://subversion-staging.apache.org/docs/community-guide/releasing.html#release-stabilization-how-many-votes [[[ -A change is approved

Re: Change to Subversion PMC rule for approving backports

2019-08-30 Thread Julian Foad
Daniel Shahaf wrote: Julian Foad wrote on Fri, 30 Aug 2019 06:54 +00:00: Daniel Shahaf wrote: I think that section as it stands (before your change) is pretty hard to follow: it jumps back and forth between different topics. I might take a shot at clarifying it (without semantic changes), if

Re: Change to Subversion PMC rule for approving backports

2019-08-30 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Julian Foad wrote on Fri, 30 Aug 2019 06:54 +00:00: > Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > I think that section as it stands (before your change) is pretty hard to > > follow: it jumps back and forth between different topics. I might take > > a shot at clarifying it (without semantic changes), if that won't

Re: Change to Subversion PMC rule for approving backports

2019-08-30 Thread Nathan Hartman
On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 2:54 AM Julian Foad wrote: > I strongly urge that we simplify any and all of our documentation at any > opportunity. Nearly all of it is much too long. It would be much better > to state the facts in a few bullet points, and move the discussion of > rationale and history

Re: Change to Subversion PMC rule for approving backports

2019-08-30 Thread Julian Foad
Daniel Shahaf wrote: Julian Foad wrote on Thu, 29 Aug 2019 15:36 +00:00: To all devs: Proposal for a permanent change to our backport rules [1]: * For non-LTS releases, each backport nomination only requires one +1 vote (instead of three). Specific diff to the text of [1]: - A change

Re: Change to Subversion PMC rule for approving backports

2019-08-29 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Julian Foad wrote on Thu, 29 Aug 2019 15:36 +00:00: > To all devs: > > Proposal for a permanent change to our backport rules [1]: > >* For non-LTS releases, each backport nomination only requires one +1 > vote (instead of three). > > Specific diff to the text of [1]: > > - A change needs

Re: Change to Subversion PMC rule for approving backports

2019-08-29 Thread Julian Foad
Nathan Hartman wrote: + A change needs three +1 votes (for an LTS release line) or one +1 vote (for a non-LTS release line) from full committers (or partial committers for the involved areas), and no vetoes, to go into A.B.x. snip - (If a change affects the build

Re: Change to Subversion PMC rule for approving backports

2019-08-29 Thread Nathan Hartman
On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 11:36 AM Julian Foad wrote: > > + A change needs three +1 votes (for an LTS release line) or one +1 vote > (for a non-LTS release line) from full committers (or partial committers > for the involved areas), and no vetoes, to go into A.B.x. snip - (If a change affects

Re: Change to Subversion PMC rule for approving backports

2019-08-29 Thread Mark Phippard
On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 11:36 AM Julian Foad wrote: > To all devs: > > Proposal for a permanent change to our backport rules [1]: > >* For non-LTS releases, each backport nomination only requires one +1 > vote (instead of three). > > Specific diff to the text of [1]: > > - A change needs

Re: Change to Subversion PMC rule for approving backports

2019-08-29 Thread Julian Foad
To all devs: Proposal for a permanent change to our backport rules [1]: * For non-LTS releases, each backport nomination only requires one +1 vote (instead of three). Specific diff to the text of [1]: - A change needs three +1 votes from full committers (or partial committers for the

Re: Change to Subversion PMC rule for approving backports

2019-07-18 Thread Branko Čibej
On 18.07.2019 14:09, Julian Foad wrote: > Recently there have not been enough developers willing and able to > test and approve proposed fixes for back-port to the supported release > branches. > > We have just been discussing this on #svn-dev [1]. Rather than delay > forever, myself, stsp and

Change to Subversion PMC rule for approving backports

2019-07-18 Thread Julian Foad
Recently there have not been enough developers willing and able to test and approve proposed fixes for back-port to the supported release branches. We have just been discussing this on #svn-dev [1]. Rather than delay forever, myself, stsp and brane decided that in line with "silence implies