Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers
e comments on the dev and/or users list, even if they are only >> half >>> serious. Or more than half serious? I can't tell. In any case, I think >>> TinkerPop is in a good place, and would be surprised if you truly don't >>> agree. There are Gremlin implementations almost everywhere there are >> graph >>> databases. To my mind, the scaffolding stage of the project -- building >> the >>> structure and filling the space -- is done. Now we have a chance to go >> back >>> and make things truly robust. Formalizing the data model, formalizing the >>> semantics of traversals in a way which adds power without subtracting >>> versatility. Building better bridges between TinkerPop-compatible graphs >>> and the rest of the world's data. Other, OLAPy and distrtibuted-systems-y >>> things I haven't thought as much about, but which others have. I think >> some >>> of the changes will require a clean break from the existing code base, >>> hence a new major version, but others can follow more of a >>> replace-and-deprecate pattern. >>> >>> Josh >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 8:54 AM Marko Rodriguez >> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>>> not quite the topic for this thread but... >>>> >>>> Oh but it is. Over the last 3 years there has been little done to >> advance >>>> the 50% area of the codebase that I wrote — the virtual machine, OLAP, >> and >>>> language. >>>> >>>> 1. Talking with DataBricks about gremlin-spark, it’s odd that >>>> DataFrames hasn’t been adopted. >>>> 2. Why can’t OLAP do bulk writes/updates? >>>> 3. Why can’t every parameter in a traversal be determined by a >>>> traversal? >>>> 4. … >>>> >>>> The problem I see is that TinkerPop doesn’t have any developers anymore. >>>> All the work is focused on GremlinServer because you know GremlinServer. >>>> And you know very well that it is because there is a lack of talent on >> the >>>> project and in order to make it all look as everything is going swell, >> you >>>> say “maintenance mode”, “innovation is over,” “software has gone >>>> enterprise.” >>>> >>>> If this is so, then why is DataBricks having to rewrite >>>> gremlin-spark/? >>>> If this is so, then why has mm-ADT solved the parameter traversal >>>> problem? >>>> >>>> You can meander in muck of small changes into the indefinite future or >> you >>>> can be a leader and get back the real team that knows how to build >> quality, >>>> innovative software. It takes courage, it takes being forthright, it >> takes >>>> standing up for greatness. >>>> >>>> Else you will be left with what you have in your GoogleDocs table… >>>> meandering insignificance. >>>> >>>> Be a man, do what men do and a work towards re-manifesting the beauty >> that >>>> once was else you will regret it in your olden years. And that will be a >>>> sad state of affairs my old friend. >>>> >>>> Marko. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 9:55 AM Marko Rodriguez >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello mein freunden, >>>>>> >>>>>> I’d love to contribute a body of work from mm-ADT that is one of the >>>> main >>>>>> issues with the Gremlin language: every step should support pipeline >>>>>> arguments (i.e., every argument can be a dynamically/traversal >>>> determined >>>>>> value). I solved this problem in mm-ADT elegantly and efficiently. A >>>>>> beautiful feature indeed. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> yep - that remains an open problem with Gremlin. The limitation Java >>>>> lambdas imposed on GLVs wasn't realized in those early days >>>> unfortunately. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> ….unfortunately, Apache Board overruled the TinkerPop PMC and had me >>>>>> forcefully removed from the PMC for being (how do you say in American >>>>>> English?) “Nazi Troll.” If the Board is willing to look past the SS on >>>> my >>>>>> uniform
Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers
very parameter in a traversal be determined by a > >> traversal? > >>4. … > >> > >> The problem I see is that TinkerPop doesn’t have any developers anymore. > >> All the work is focused on GremlinServer because you know GremlinServer. > >> And you know very well that it is because there is a lack of talent on > the > >> project and in order to make it all look as everything is going swell, > you > >> say “maintenance mode”, “innovation is over,” “software has gone > >> enterprise.” > >> > >>If this is so, then why is DataBricks having to rewrite > >> gremlin-spark/? > >>If this is so, then why has mm-ADT solved the parameter traversal > >> problem? > >> > >> You can meander in muck of small changes into the indefinite future or > you > >> can be a leader and get back the real team that knows how to build > quality, > >> innovative software. It takes courage, it takes being forthright, it > takes > >> standing up for greatness. > >> > >> Else you will be left with what you have in your GoogleDocs table… > >> meandering insignificance. > >> > >> Be a man, do what men do and a work towards re-manifesting the beauty > that > >> once was else you will regret it in your olden years. And that will be a > >> sad state of affairs my old friend. > >> > >> Marko. > >> > >> > >> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 9:55 AM Marko Rodriguez > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hello mein freunden, > >>>> > >>>> I’d love to contribute a body of work from mm-ADT that is one of the > >> main > >>>> issues with the Gremlin language: every step should support pipeline > >>>> arguments (i.e., every argument can be a dynamically/traversal > >> determined > >>>> value). I solved this problem in mm-ADT elegantly and efficiently. A > >>>> beautiful feature indeed. > >>>> > >>> > >>> yep - that remains an open problem with Gremlin. The limitation Java > >>> lambdas imposed on GLVs wasn't realized in those early days > >> unfortunately. > >>> > >>> > >>>> ….unfortunately, Apache Board overruled the TinkerPop PMC and had me > >>>> forcefully removed from the PMC for being (how do you say in American > >>>> English?) “Nazi Troll.” If the Board is willing to look past the SS on > >> my > >>>> uniform and put me back in my rightful place as Obergruppenführer of > the > >>>> PMC, then we shall be unstoppable! > >>>> > >>>> Those are my terms. Boohaha. > >>>> > >>>> Marko. > >>>> > >>>>> On Apr 30, 2021, at 7:34 AM, Stephen Mallette > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Wow, this is great - lots of volunteers! Here's a running list of > what > >> we > >>>>> have so far: > >>>>> > >>>>> * UnifiedChannelizer - Stephen > >>>>> * gremlin-language - Josh > >>>>> * Gremlin.Net - Florian > >>>>> * gremlin-python - Kelvin > >>>>> > >>>>> There's definitely a lot more topics to tackle. Let's keep expanding > >> the > >>>>> list. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 9:27 AM Kelvin Lawrence > >> >>>>> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> I am happy to help. The area I have been closest too is probably the > >>>>>> enhancements to the Python client. I could write something around > >> those > >>>>>> features. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers, Kelvin > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Apr 30, 2021, at 04:30, f...@florian-hockmann.de wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I could write something for .NET. Added GraphBinary support and > >>>>>> switching the JSON library could be interesting for some Gremlin.Net > >>>> users. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > >>>>>>> Von: Stephen Mallette > >>>>>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29.
Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers
It takes courage, it takes being forthright, it takes >> standing up for greatness. >> >> Else you will be left with what you have in your GoogleDocs table… >> meandering insignificance. >> >> Be a man, do what men do and a work towards re-manifesting the beauty that >> once was else you will regret it in your olden years. And that will be a >> sad state of affairs my old friend. >> >> Marko. >> >> >> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 9:55 AM Marko Rodriguez >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello mein freunden, >>>> >>>> I’d love to contribute a body of work from mm-ADT that is one of the >> main >>>> issues with the Gremlin language: every step should support pipeline >>>> arguments (i.e., every argument can be a dynamically/traversal >> determined >>>> value). I solved this problem in mm-ADT elegantly and efficiently. A >>>> beautiful feature indeed. >>>> >>> >>> yep - that remains an open problem with Gremlin. The limitation Java >>> lambdas imposed on GLVs wasn't realized in those early days >> unfortunately. >>> >>> >>>> ….unfortunately, Apache Board overruled the TinkerPop PMC and had me >>>> forcefully removed from the PMC for being (how do you say in American >>>> English?) “Nazi Troll.” If the Board is willing to look past the SS on >> my >>>> uniform and put me back in my rightful place as Obergruppenführer of the >>>> PMC, then we shall be unstoppable! >>>> >>>> Those are my terms. Boohaha. >>>> >>>> Marko. >>>> >>>>> On Apr 30, 2021, at 7:34 AM, Stephen Mallette >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Wow, this is great - lots of volunteers! Here's a running list of what >> we >>>>> have so far: >>>>> >>>>> * UnifiedChannelizer - Stephen >>>>> * gremlin-language - Josh >>>>> * Gremlin.Net - Florian >>>>> * gremlin-python - Kelvin >>>>> >>>>> There's definitely a lot more topics to tackle. Let's keep expanding >> the >>>>> list. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 9:27 AM Kelvin Lawrence >> >>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I am happy to help. The area I have been closest too is probably the >>>>>> enhancements to the Python client. I could write something around >> those >>>>>> features. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, Kelvin >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Apr 30, 2021, at 04:30, f...@florian-hockmann.de wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I could write something for .NET. Added GraphBinary support and >>>>>> switching the JSON library could be interesting for some Gremlin.Net >>>> users. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >>>>>>> Von: Stephen Mallette >>>>>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. April 2021 21:32 >>>>>>> An: dev@tinkerpop.apache.org >>>>>>> Betreff: Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Right now, I think it's fine for these to just have each person's >>>>>> individual style - might make the posts more interesting assuming we >>>> get a >>>>>> few more volunteers. If you can come up with a neat image that could >> go >>>>>> with a tweet to promote the announcement (that we will push through >> the >>>>>> TinkerPop account), that would be cool. We've not really come up with >>>>>> anything that sort of iconifies the gremlin-language module, so if you >>>> feel >>>>>> like thinking about that, that would be neat. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 2:45 PM Joshua Shinavier >> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sounds good. I'll write the announcement. If you have thoughts on >> the >>>>>>>> format, please feel free to share. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Josh >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:56 AM Stephen Mallette >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 1:38 PM Joshua Shinavier < >> j...@fortytwo.net> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I would be happy to collaborate on gremlin-language if there is >>>>>>>> something >>>>>>>>>> which needs doing. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Josh >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> great josh - thanks! The upgrade docs sorta tuck that feature away >>>>>>>>> in the provider section >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>> https://tinkerpop.apache.org/docs/3.5.0-SNAPSHOT/upgrade/#_gremlin_lan >>>>>>>> guage >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> because at this point it doesn't have direct user impact, but i >>>>>>>>> think it might be useful to the community to write something in an >>>>>>>>> announcement >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> helps describe what this module lays the foundation for. you've had >>>>>>>>> some interesting ideas in this area that i'm not sure have gotten >>>>>>>>> outside of >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> dev list as of yet. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >> >>
Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers
I think a great way to lose developers, and not gain new ones, is to make negative comments on the dev and/or users list, even if they are only half serious. Or more than half serious? I can't tell. In any case, I think TinkerPop is in a good place, and would be surprised if you truly don't agree. There are Gremlin implementations almost everywhere there are graph databases. To my mind, the scaffolding stage of the project -- building the structure and filling the space -- is done. Now we have a chance to go back and make things truly robust. Formalizing the data model, formalizing the semantics of traversals in a way which adds power without subtracting versatility. Building better bridges between TinkerPop-compatible graphs and the rest of the world's data. Other, OLAPy and distrtibuted-systems-y things I haven't thought as much about, but which others have. I think some of the changes will require a clean break from the existing code base, hence a new major version, but others can follow more of a replace-and-deprecate pattern. Josh On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 8:54 AM Marko Rodriguez wrote: > Hello, > > > not quite the topic for this thread but... > > Oh but it is. Over the last 3 years there has been little done to advance > the 50% area of the codebase that I wrote — the virtual machine, OLAP, and > language. > > 1. Talking with DataBricks about gremlin-spark, it’s odd that > DataFrames hasn’t been adopted. > 2. Why can’t OLAP do bulk writes/updates? > 3. Why can’t every parameter in a traversal be determined by a > traversal? > 4. … > > The problem I see is that TinkerPop doesn’t have any developers anymore. > All the work is focused on GremlinServer because you know GremlinServer. > And you know very well that it is because there is a lack of talent on the > project and in order to make it all look as everything is going swell, you > say “maintenance mode”, “innovation is over,” “software has gone > enterprise.” > > If this is so, then why is DataBricks having to rewrite > gremlin-spark/? > If this is so, then why has mm-ADT solved the parameter traversal > problem? > > You can meander in muck of small changes into the indefinite future or you > can be a leader and get back the real team that knows how to build quality, > innovative software. It takes courage, it takes being forthright, it takes > standing up for greatness. > > Else you will be left with what you have in your GoogleDocs table… > meandering insignificance. > > Be a man, do what men do and a work towards re-manifesting the beauty that > once was else you will regret it in your olden years. And that will be a > sad state of affairs my old friend. > > Marko. > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 9:55 AM Marko Rodriguez > > wrote: > > > >> Hello mein freunden, > >> > >> I’d love to contribute a body of work from mm-ADT that is one of the > main > >> issues with the Gremlin language: every step should support pipeline > >> arguments (i.e., every argument can be a dynamically/traversal > determined > >> value). I solved this problem in mm-ADT elegantly and efficiently. A > >> beautiful feature indeed. > >> > > > > yep - that remains an open problem with Gremlin. The limitation Java > > lambdas imposed on GLVs wasn't realized in those early days > unfortunately. > > > > > >> ….unfortunately, Apache Board overruled the TinkerPop PMC and had me > >> forcefully removed from the PMC for being (how do you say in American > >> English?) “Nazi Troll.” If the Board is willing to look past the SS on > my > >> uniform and put me back in my rightful place as Obergruppenführer of the > >> PMC, then we shall be unstoppable! > >> > >> Those are my terms. Boohaha. > >> > >> Marko. > >> > >>> On Apr 30, 2021, at 7:34 AM, Stephen Mallette > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> Wow, this is great - lots of volunteers! Here's a running list of what > we > >>> have so far: > >>> > >>> * UnifiedChannelizer - Stephen > >>> * gremlin-language - Josh > >>> * Gremlin.Net - Florian > >>> * gremlin-python - Kelvin > >>> > >>> There's definitely a lot more topics to tackle. Let's keep expanding > the > >>> list. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 9:27 AM Kelvin Lawrence > >>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I am happy to help. The area I have been closest too is probably the > >>>> enhancements to t
Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers
Hello, > not quite the topic for this thread but... Oh but it is. Over the last 3 years there has been little done to advance the 50% area of the codebase that I wrote — the virtual machine, OLAP, and language. 1. Talking with DataBricks about gremlin-spark, it’s odd that DataFrames hasn’t been adopted. 2. Why can’t OLAP do bulk writes/updates? 3. Why can’t every parameter in a traversal be determined by a traversal? 4. … The problem I see is that TinkerPop doesn’t have any developers anymore. All the work is focused on GremlinServer because you know GremlinServer. And you know very well that it is because there is a lack of talent on the project and in order to make it all look as everything is going swell, you say “maintenance mode”, “innovation is over,” “software has gone enterprise.” If this is so, then why is DataBricks having to rewrite gremlin-spark/? If this is so, then why has mm-ADT solved the parameter traversal problem? You can meander in muck of small changes into the indefinite future or you can be a leader and get back the real team that knows how to build quality, innovative software. It takes courage, it takes being forthright, it takes standing up for greatness. Else you will be left with what you have in your GoogleDocs table… meandering insignificance. Be a man, do what men do and a work towards re-manifesting the beauty that once was else you will regret it in your olden years. And that will be a sad state of affairs my old friend. Marko. > > On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 9:55 AM Marko Rodriguez > wrote: > >> Hello mein freunden, >> >> I’d love to contribute a body of work from mm-ADT that is one of the main >> issues with the Gremlin language: every step should support pipeline >> arguments (i.e., every argument can be a dynamically/traversal determined >> value). I solved this problem in mm-ADT elegantly and efficiently. A >> beautiful feature indeed. >> > > yep - that remains an open problem with Gremlin. The limitation Java > lambdas imposed on GLVs wasn't realized in those early days unfortunately. > > >> ….unfortunately, Apache Board overruled the TinkerPop PMC and had me >> forcefully removed from the PMC for being (how do you say in American >> English?) “Nazi Troll.” If the Board is willing to look past the SS on my >> uniform and put me back in my rightful place as Obergruppenführer of the >> PMC, then we shall be unstoppable! >> >> Those are my terms. Boohaha. >> >> Marko. >> >>> On Apr 30, 2021, at 7:34 AM, Stephen Mallette >> wrote: >>> >>> Wow, this is great - lots of volunteers! Here's a running list of what we >>> have so far: >>> >>> * UnifiedChannelizer - Stephen >>> * gremlin-language - Josh >>> * Gremlin.Net - Florian >>> * gremlin-python - Kelvin >>> >>> There's definitely a lot more topics to tackle. Let's keep expanding the >>> list. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 9:27 AM Kelvin Lawrence >> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I am happy to help. The area I have been closest too is probably the >>>> enhancements to the Python client. I could write something around those >>>> features. >>>> >>>> Cheers, Kelvin >>>> >>>>> On Apr 30, 2021, at 04:30, f...@florian-hockmann.de wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I could write something for .NET. Added GraphBinary support and >>>> switching the JSON library could be interesting for some Gremlin.Net >> users. >>>>> >>>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >>>>> Von: Stephen Mallette >>>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. April 2021 21:32 >>>>> An: dev@tinkerpop.apache.org >>>>> Betreff: Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers >>>>> >>>>> Right now, I think it's fine for these to just have each person's >>>> individual style - might make the posts more interesting assuming we >> get a >>>> few more volunteers. If you can come up with a neat image that could go >>>> with a tweet to promote the announcement (that we will push through the >>>> TinkerPop account), that would be cool. We've not really come up with >>>> anything that sort of iconifies the gremlin-language module, so if you >> feel >>>> like thinking about that, that would be neat. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 2:45 PM Joshua Shinavier >>>> wrote: >>>>&g
Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers
Updated the list: * UnifiedChannelizer - Stephen * gremlin-language - Josh * Gremlin.Net - Florian * gremlin-python - Kelvin * Gremlint - Øyvind * Changes in null semantics - Dave I think we should just draft these in google docs and just share access as needed. On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 12:48 PM David Bechberger wrote: > I can write a post about the changes in how null is handled. > > Dave > > On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 6:20 AM Øyvind Sæbø wrote: > > > I can write a post about the introduction of Gremlint to TinkerPop and > its > > future possibilities. > > > > fre. 30. apr. 2021 kl. 15:55 skrev Marko Rodriguez >: > > > > > Hello mein freunden, > > > > > > I’d love to contribute a body of work from mm-ADT that is one of the > main > > > issues with the Gremlin language: every step should support pipeline > > > arguments (i.e., every argument can be a dynamically/traversal > determined > > > value). I solved this problem in mm-ADT elegantly and efficiently. A > > > beautiful feature indeed. > > > > > > ….unfortunately, Apache Board overruled the TinkerPop PMC and had me > > > forcefully removed from the PMC for being (how do you say in American > > > English?) “Nazi Troll.” If the Board is willing to look past the SS on > my > > > uniform and put me back in my rightful place as Obergruppenführer of > the > > > PMC, then we shall be unstoppable! > > > > > > Those are my terms. Boohaha. > > > > > > Marko. > > > > > > > On Apr 30, 2021, at 7:34 AM, Stephen Mallette > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Wow, this is great - lots of volunteers! Here's a running list of > what > > we > > > > have so far: > > > > > > > > * UnifiedChannelizer - Stephen > > > > * gremlin-language - Josh > > > > * Gremlin.Net - Florian > > > > * gremlin-python - Kelvin > > > > > > > > There's definitely a lot more topics to tackle. Let's keep expanding > > the > > > > list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 9:27 AM Kelvin Lawrence > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> I am happy to help. The area I have been closest too is probably the > > > >> enhancements to the Python client. I could write something around > > those > > > >> features. > > > >> > > > >> Cheers, Kelvin > > > >> > > > >>> On Apr 30, 2021, at 04:30, f...@florian-hockmann.de wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> I could write something for .NET. Added GraphBinary support and > > > >> switching the JSON library could be interesting for some Gremlin.Net > > > users. > > > >>> > > > >>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > > > >>> Von: Stephen Mallette > > > >>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. April 2021 21:32 > > > >>> An: dev@tinkerpop.apache.org > > > >>> Betreff: Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers > > > >>> > > > >>> Right now, I think it's fine for these to just have each person's > > > >> individual style - might make the posts more interesting assuming we > > > get a > > > >> few more volunteers. If you can come up with a neat image that could > > go > > > >> with a tweet to promote the announcement (that we will push through > > the > > > >> TinkerPop account), that would be cool. We've not really come up > with > > > >> anything that sort of iconifies the gremlin-language module, so if > you > > > feel > > > >> like thinking about that, that would be neat. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 2:45 PM Joshua Shinavier < > j...@fortytwo.net > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Sounds good. I'll write the announcement. If you have thoughts on > > the > > > >>>> format, please feel free to share. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Josh > > > >>>> > > > >>>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:56 AM Stephen Mallette > > > >>>> > > > >>>> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 1:38 PM Joshua Shinavier < > > j...@fortytwo.net> > > > >>>>> wrote: > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>> I would be happy to collaborate on gremlin-language if there is > > > >>>> something > > > >>>>>> which needs doing. > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> Josh > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>>> > > > >>>>> great josh - thanks! The upgrade docs sorta tuck that feature > away > > > >>>>> in the provider section > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > https://tinkerpop.apache.org/docs/3.5.0-SNAPSHOT/upgrade/#_gremlin_lan > > > >>>> guage > > > >>>>> > > > >>>>> because at this point it doesn't have direct user impact, but i > > > >>>>> think it might be useful to the community to write something in > an > > > >>>>> announcement > > > >>>> that > > > >>>>> helps describe what this module lays the foundation for. you've > had > > > >>>>> some interesting ideas in this area that i'm not sure have gotten > > > >>>>> outside of > > > >>>> the > > > >>>>> dev list as of yet. > > > >>>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >
Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers
not quite the topic for this thread but... On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 9:55 AM Marko Rodriguez wrote: > Hello mein freunden, > > I’d love to contribute a body of work from mm-ADT that is one of the main > issues with the Gremlin language: every step should support pipeline > arguments (i.e., every argument can be a dynamically/traversal determined > value). I solved this problem in mm-ADT elegantly and efficiently. A > beautiful feature indeed. > yep - that remains an open problem with Gremlin. The limitation Java lambdas imposed on GLVs wasn't realized in those early days unfortunately. > ….unfortunately, Apache Board overruled the TinkerPop PMC and had me > forcefully removed from the PMC for being (how do you say in American > English?) “Nazi Troll.” If the Board is willing to look past the SS on my > uniform and put me back in my rightful place as Obergruppenführer of the > PMC, then we shall be unstoppable! > > Those are my terms. Boohaha. > > Marko. > > > On Apr 30, 2021, at 7:34 AM, Stephen Mallette > wrote: > > > > Wow, this is great - lots of volunteers! Here's a running list of what we > > have so far: > > > > * UnifiedChannelizer - Stephen > > * gremlin-language - Josh > > * Gremlin.Net - Florian > > * gremlin-python - Kelvin > > > > There's definitely a lot more topics to tackle. Let's keep expanding the > > list. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 9:27 AM Kelvin Lawrence > > > wrote: > > > >> I am happy to help. The area I have been closest too is probably the > >> enhancements to the Python client. I could write something around those > >> features. > >> > >> Cheers, Kelvin > >> > >>> On Apr 30, 2021, at 04:30, f...@florian-hockmann.de wrote: > >>> > >>> I could write something for .NET. Added GraphBinary support and > >> switching the JSON library could be interesting for some Gremlin.Net > users. > >>> > >>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > >>> Von: Stephen Mallette > >>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. April 2021 21:32 > >>> An: dev@tinkerpop.apache.org > >>> Betreff: Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers > >>> > >>> Right now, I think it's fine for these to just have each person's > >> individual style - might make the posts more interesting assuming we > get a > >> few more volunteers. If you can come up with a neat image that could go > >> with a tweet to promote the announcement (that we will push through the > >> TinkerPop account), that would be cool. We've not really come up with > >> anything that sort of iconifies the gremlin-language module, so if you > feel > >> like thinking about that, that would be neat. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 2:45 PM Joshua Shinavier > >> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Sounds good. I'll write the announcement. If you have thoughts on the > >>>> format, please feel free to share. > >>>> > >>>> Josh > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:56 AM Stephen Mallette > >>>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 1:38 PM Joshua Shinavier > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> I would be happy to collaborate on gremlin-language if there is > >>>> something > >>>>>> which needs doing. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Josh > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> great josh - thanks! The upgrade docs sorta tuck that feature away > >>>>> in the provider section > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > https://tinkerpop.apache.org/docs/3.5.0-SNAPSHOT/upgrade/#_gremlin_lan > >>>> guage > >>>>> > >>>>> because at this point it doesn't have direct user impact, but i > >>>>> think it might be useful to the community to write something in an > >>>>> announcement > >>>> that > >>>>> helps describe what this module lays the foundation for. you've had > >>>>> some interesting ideas in this area that i'm not sure have gotten > >>>>> outside of > >>>> the > >>>>> dev list as of yet. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > >> > >
Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers
I can write a post about the changes in how null is handled. Dave On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 6:20 AM Øyvind Sæbø wrote: > I can write a post about the introduction of Gremlint to TinkerPop and its > future possibilities. > > fre. 30. apr. 2021 kl. 15:55 skrev Marko Rodriguez : > > > Hello mein freunden, > > > > I’d love to contribute a body of work from mm-ADT that is one of the main > > issues with the Gremlin language: every step should support pipeline > > arguments (i.e., every argument can be a dynamically/traversal determined > > value). I solved this problem in mm-ADT elegantly and efficiently. A > > beautiful feature indeed. > > > > ….unfortunately, Apache Board overruled the TinkerPop PMC and had me > > forcefully removed from the PMC for being (how do you say in American > > English?) “Nazi Troll.” If the Board is willing to look past the SS on my > > uniform and put me back in my rightful place as Obergruppenführer of the > > PMC, then we shall be unstoppable! > > > > Those are my terms. Boohaha. > > > > Marko. > > > > > On Apr 30, 2021, at 7:34 AM, Stephen Mallette > > wrote: > > > > > > Wow, this is great - lots of volunteers! Here's a running list of what > we > > > have so far: > > > > > > * UnifiedChannelizer - Stephen > > > * gremlin-language - Josh > > > * Gremlin.Net - Florian > > > * gremlin-python - Kelvin > > > > > > There's definitely a lot more topics to tackle. Let's keep expanding > the > > > list. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 9:27 AM Kelvin Lawrence > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> I am happy to help. The area I have been closest too is probably the > > >> enhancements to the Python client. I could write something around > those > > >> features. > > >> > > >> Cheers, Kelvin > > >> > > >>> On Apr 30, 2021, at 04:30, f...@florian-hockmann.de wrote: > > >>> > > >>> I could write something for .NET. Added GraphBinary support and > > >> switching the JSON library could be interesting for some Gremlin.Net > > users. > > >>> > > >>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > > >>> Von: Stephen Mallette > > >>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. April 2021 21:32 > > >>> An: dev@tinkerpop.apache.org > > >>> Betreff: Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers > > >>> > > >>> Right now, I think it's fine for these to just have each person's > > >> individual style - might make the posts more interesting assuming we > > get a > > >> few more volunteers. If you can come up with a neat image that could > go > > >> with a tweet to promote the announcement (that we will push through > the > > >> TinkerPop account), that would be cool. We've not really come up with > > >> anything that sort of iconifies the gremlin-language module, so if you > > feel > > >> like thinking about that, that would be neat. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 2:45 PM Joshua Shinavier > > > >> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> Sounds good. I'll write the announcement. If you have thoughts on > the > > >>>> format, please feel free to share. > > >>>> > > >>>> Josh > > >>>> > > >>>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:56 AM Stephen Mallette > > >>>> > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 1:38 PM Joshua Shinavier < > j...@fortytwo.net> > > >>>>> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>>> I would be happy to collaborate on gremlin-language if there is > > >>>> something > > >>>>>> which needs doing. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Josh > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> great josh - thanks! The upgrade docs sorta tuck that feature away > > >>>>> in the provider section > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > https://tinkerpop.apache.org/docs/3.5.0-SNAPSHOT/upgrade/#_gremlin_lan > > >>>> guage > > >>>>> > > >>>>> because at this point it doesn't have direct user impact, but i > > >>>>> think it might be useful to the community to write something in an > > >>>>> announcement > > >>>> that > > >>>>> helps describe what this module lays the foundation for. you've had > > >>>>> some interesting ideas in this area that i'm not sure have gotten > > >>>>> outside of > > >>>> the > > >>>>> dev list as of yet. > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > > > >
Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers
I can write a post about the introduction of Gremlint to TinkerPop and its future possibilities. fre. 30. apr. 2021 kl. 15:55 skrev Marko Rodriguez : > Hello mein freunden, > > I’d love to contribute a body of work from mm-ADT that is one of the main > issues with the Gremlin language: every step should support pipeline > arguments (i.e., every argument can be a dynamically/traversal determined > value). I solved this problem in mm-ADT elegantly and efficiently. A > beautiful feature indeed. > > ….unfortunately, Apache Board overruled the TinkerPop PMC and had me > forcefully removed from the PMC for being (how do you say in American > English?) “Nazi Troll.” If the Board is willing to look past the SS on my > uniform and put me back in my rightful place as Obergruppenführer of the > PMC, then we shall be unstoppable! > > Those are my terms. Boohaha. > > Marko. > > > On Apr 30, 2021, at 7:34 AM, Stephen Mallette > wrote: > > > > Wow, this is great - lots of volunteers! Here's a running list of what we > > have so far: > > > > * UnifiedChannelizer - Stephen > > * gremlin-language - Josh > > * Gremlin.Net - Florian > > * gremlin-python - Kelvin > > > > There's definitely a lot more topics to tackle. Let's keep expanding the > > list. > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 9:27 AM Kelvin Lawrence > > > wrote: > > > >> I am happy to help. The area I have been closest too is probably the > >> enhancements to the Python client. I could write something around those > >> features. > >> > >> Cheers, Kelvin > >> > >>> On Apr 30, 2021, at 04:30, f...@florian-hockmann.de wrote: > >>> > >>> I could write something for .NET. Added GraphBinary support and > >> switching the JSON library could be interesting for some Gremlin.Net > users. > >>> > >>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > >>> Von: Stephen Mallette > >>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. April 2021 21:32 > >>> An: dev@tinkerpop.apache.org > >>> Betreff: Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers > >>> > >>> Right now, I think it's fine for these to just have each person's > >> individual style - might make the posts more interesting assuming we > get a > >> few more volunteers. If you can come up with a neat image that could go > >> with a tweet to promote the announcement (that we will push through the > >> TinkerPop account), that would be cool. We've not really come up with > >> anything that sort of iconifies the gremlin-language module, so if you > feel > >> like thinking about that, that would be neat. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 2:45 PM Joshua Shinavier > >> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Sounds good. I'll write the announcement. If you have thoughts on the > >>>> format, please feel free to share. > >>>> > >>>> Josh > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:56 AM Stephen Mallette > >>>> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 1:38 PM Joshua Shinavier > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> I would be happy to collaborate on gremlin-language if there is > >>>> something > >>>>>> which needs doing. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Josh > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> great josh - thanks! The upgrade docs sorta tuck that feature away > >>>>> in the provider section > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> > https://tinkerpop.apache.org/docs/3.5.0-SNAPSHOT/upgrade/#_gremlin_lan > >>>> guage > >>>>> > >>>>> because at this point it doesn't have direct user impact, but i > >>>>> think it might be useful to the community to write something in an > >>>>> announcement > >>>> that > >>>>> helps describe what this module lays the foundation for. you've had > >>>>> some interesting ideas in this area that i'm not sure have gotten > >>>>> outside of > >>>> the > >>>>> dev list as of yet. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > >> > >
Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers
Hello mein freunden, I’d love to contribute a body of work from mm-ADT that is one of the main issues with the Gremlin language: every step should support pipeline arguments (i.e., every argument can be a dynamically/traversal determined value). I solved this problem in mm-ADT elegantly and efficiently. A beautiful feature indeed. ….unfortunately, Apache Board overruled the TinkerPop PMC and had me forcefully removed from the PMC for being (how do you say in American English?) “Nazi Troll.” If the Board is willing to look past the SS on my uniform and put me back in my rightful place as Obergruppenführer of the PMC, then we shall be unstoppable! Those are my terms. Boohaha. Marko. > On Apr 30, 2021, at 7:34 AM, Stephen Mallette wrote: > > Wow, this is great - lots of volunteers! Here's a running list of what we > have so far: > > * UnifiedChannelizer - Stephen > * gremlin-language - Josh > * Gremlin.Net - Florian > * gremlin-python - Kelvin > > There's definitely a lot more topics to tackle. Let's keep expanding the > list. > > > > On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 9:27 AM Kelvin Lawrence > wrote: > >> I am happy to help. The area I have been closest too is probably the >> enhancements to the Python client. I could write something around those >> features. >> >> Cheers, Kelvin >> >>> On Apr 30, 2021, at 04:30, f...@florian-hockmann.de wrote: >>> >>> I could write something for .NET. Added GraphBinary support and >> switching the JSON library could be interesting for some Gremlin.Net users. >>> >>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >>> Von: Stephen Mallette >>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. April 2021 21:32 >>> An: dev@tinkerpop.apache.org >>> Betreff: Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers >>> >>> Right now, I think it's fine for these to just have each person's >> individual style - might make the posts more interesting assuming we get a >> few more volunteers. If you can come up with a neat image that could go >> with a tweet to promote the announcement (that we will push through the >> TinkerPop account), that would be cool. We've not really come up with >> anything that sort of iconifies the gremlin-language module, so if you feel >> like thinking about that, that would be neat. >>> >>> >>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 2:45 PM Joshua Shinavier >> wrote: >>>> >>>> Sounds good. I'll write the announcement. If you have thoughts on the >>>> format, please feel free to share. >>>> >>>> Josh >>>> >>>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:56 AM Stephen Mallette >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 1:38 PM Joshua Shinavier >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I would be happy to collaborate on gremlin-language if there is >>>> something >>>>>> which needs doing. >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> great josh - thanks! The upgrade docs sorta tuck that feature away >>>>> in the provider section >>>>> >>>>> >>>> https://tinkerpop.apache.org/docs/3.5.0-SNAPSHOT/upgrade/#_gremlin_lan >>>> guage >>>>> >>>>> because at this point it doesn't have direct user impact, but i >>>>> think it might be useful to the community to write something in an >>>>> announcement >>>> that >>>>> helps describe what this module lays the foundation for. you've had >>>>> some interesting ideas in this area that i'm not sure have gotten >>>>> outside of >>>> the >>>>> dev list as of yet. >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >>
Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers
Wow, this is great - lots of volunteers! Here's a running list of what we have so far: * UnifiedChannelizer - Stephen * gremlin-language - Josh * Gremlin.Net - Florian * gremlin-python - Kelvin There's definitely a lot more topics to tackle. Let's keep expanding the list. On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 9:27 AM Kelvin Lawrence wrote: > I am happy to help. The area I have been closest too is probably the > enhancements to the Python client. I could write something around those > features. > > Cheers, Kelvin > > > On Apr 30, 2021, at 04:30, f...@florian-hockmann.de wrote: > > > > I could write something for .NET. Added GraphBinary support and > switching the JSON library could be interesting for some Gremlin.Net users. > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > > Von: Stephen Mallette > > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. April 2021 21:32 > > An: dev@tinkerpop.apache.org > > Betreff: Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers > > > > Right now, I think it's fine for these to just have each person's > individual style - might make the posts more interesting assuming we get a > few more volunteers. If you can come up with a neat image that could go > with a tweet to promote the announcement (that we will push through the > TinkerPop account), that would be cool. We've not really come up with > anything that sort of iconifies the gremlin-language module, so if you feel > like thinking about that, that would be neat. > > > > > > > >> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 2:45 PM Joshua Shinavier > wrote: > >> > >> Sounds good. I'll write the announcement. If you have thoughts on the > >> format, please feel free to share. > >> > >> Josh > >> > >> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:56 AM Stephen Mallette > >> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 1:38 PM Joshua Shinavier > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I would be happy to collaborate on gremlin-language if there is > >> something > >>>> which needs doing. > >>>> > >>>> Josh > >>>> > >>>> > >>> great josh - thanks! The upgrade docs sorta tuck that feature away > >>> in the provider section > >>> > >>> > >> https://tinkerpop.apache.org/docs/3.5.0-SNAPSHOT/upgrade/#_gremlin_lan > >> guage > >>> > >>> because at this point it doesn't have direct user impact, but i > >>> think it might be useful to the community to write something in an > >>> announcement > >> that > >>> helps describe what this module lays the foundation for. you've had > >>> some interesting ideas in this area that i'm not sure have gotten > >>> outside of > >> the > >>> dev list as of yet. > >>> > >> > > > >
Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers
I am happy to help. The area I have been closest too is probably the enhancements to the Python client. I could write something around those features. Cheers, Kelvin > On Apr 30, 2021, at 04:30, f...@florian-hockmann.de wrote: > > I could write something for .NET. Added GraphBinary support and switching > the JSON library could be interesting for some Gremlin.Net users. > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Stephen Mallette > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. April 2021 21:32 > An: dev@tinkerpop.apache.org > Betreff: Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers > > Right now, I think it's fine for these to just have each person's individual > style - might make the posts more interesting assuming we get a few more > volunteers. If you can come up with a neat image that could go with a tweet > to promote the announcement (that we will push through the TinkerPop > account), that would be cool. We've not really come up with anything that > sort of iconifies the gremlin-language module, so if you feel like thinking > about that, that would be neat. > > > >> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 2:45 PM Joshua Shinavier wrote: >> >> Sounds good. I'll write the announcement. If you have thoughts on the >> format, please feel free to share. >> >> Josh >> >> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:56 AM Stephen Mallette >> >> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 1:38 PM Joshua Shinavier >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I would be happy to collaborate on gremlin-language if there is >> something >>>> which needs doing. >>>> >>>> Josh >>>> >>>> >>> great josh - thanks! The upgrade docs sorta tuck that feature away >>> in the provider section >>> >>> >> https://tinkerpop.apache.org/docs/3.5.0-SNAPSHOT/upgrade/#_gremlin_lan >> guage >>> >>> because at this point it doesn't have direct user impact, but i >>> think it might be useful to the community to write something in an >>> announcement >> that >>> helps describe what this module lays the foundation for. you've had >>> some interesting ideas in this area that i'm not sure have gotten >>> outside of >> the >>> dev list as of yet. >>> >> >
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I don't think so. The only bug I closed recently was TINKERPOP-2341 but I only closed that because a fix for another bug in 3.4.8 apparently also fixed that one. I also went through all closed .NET issues that have 3.5.0 as their fix version and no 3.4.x version but didn't find anything else besides GraphBinary, the switch to System.Text.Json and dropped support for .NET Standard 1.3. But yes, the CosmosDB issues are really time consuming for me but unfortunately, they often don't really get any where as I spend most of the time trying to reproduce the problem. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Stephen Mallette Gesendet: Freitag, 30. April 2021 12:35 An: dev@tinkerpop.apache.org Betreff: Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 5:30 AM wrote: > I could write something for .NET. Added GraphBinary support and > switching the JSON library could be interesting for some Gremlin.Net users. > was there anything in 3.5.0 for .NET that helped CosmosDB users? if any issues closed around that, i think it would be useful to highlight those given how much time you tend to spend in conversation about those issues on JIRA. > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Stephen Mallette > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. April 2021 21:32 > An: dev@tinkerpop.apache.org > Betreff: Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers > > Right now, I think it's fine for these to just have each person's > individual style - might make the posts more interesting assuming we > get a few more volunteers. If you can come up with a neat image that > could go with a tweet to promote the announcement (that we will push > through the TinkerPop account), that would be cool. We've not really > come up with anything that sort of iconifies the gremlin-language > module, so if you feel like thinking about that, that would be neat. > > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 2:45 PM Joshua Shinavier > wrote: > > > Sounds good. I'll write the announcement. If you have thoughts on > > the format, please feel free to share. > > > > Josh > > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:56 AM Stephen Mallette > > > > wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 1:38 PM Joshua Shinavier > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I would be happy to collaborate on gremlin-language if there is > > something > > > > which needs doing. > > > > > > > > Josh > > > > > > > > > > > great josh - thanks! The upgrade docs sorta tuck that feature away > > > in the provider section > > > > > > > > https://tinkerpop.apache.org/docs/3.5.0-SNAPSHOT/upgrade/#_gremlin_l > > an > > guage > > > > > > because at this point it doesn't have direct user impact, but i > > > think it might be useful to the community to write something in an > > > announcement > > that > > > helps describe what this module lays the foundation for. you've > > > had some interesting ideas in this area that i'm not sure have > > > gotten outside of > > the > > > dev list as of yet. > > > > > > >
Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers
On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 5:30 AM wrote: > I could write something for .NET. Added GraphBinary support and switching > the JSON library could be interesting for some Gremlin.Net users. > was there anything in 3.5.0 for .NET that helped CosmosDB users? if any issues closed around that, i think it would be useful to highlight those given how much time you tend to spend in conversation about those issues on JIRA. > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Stephen Mallette > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. April 2021 21:32 > An: dev@tinkerpop.apache.org > Betreff: Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers > > Right now, I think it's fine for these to just have each person's > individual style - might make the posts more interesting assuming we get a > few more volunteers. If you can come up with a neat image that could go > with a tweet to promote the announcement (that we will push through the > TinkerPop account), that would be cool. We've not really come up with > anything that sort of iconifies the gremlin-language module, so if you feel > like thinking about that, that would be neat. > > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 2:45 PM Joshua Shinavier > wrote: > > > Sounds good. I'll write the announcement. If you have thoughts on the > > format, please feel free to share. > > > > Josh > > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:56 AM Stephen Mallette > > > > wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 1:38 PM Joshua Shinavier > > > wrote: > > > > > > > I would be happy to collaborate on gremlin-language if there is > > something > > > > which needs doing. > > > > > > > > Josh > > > > > > > > > > > great josh - thanks! The upgrade docs sorta tuck that feature away > > > in the provider section > > > > > > > > https://tinkerpop.apache.org/docs/3.5.0-SNAPSHOT/upgrade/#_gremlin_lan > > guage > > > > > > because at this point it doesn't have direct user impact, but i > > > think it might be useful to the community to write something in an > > > announcement > > that > > > helps describe what this module lays the foundation for. you've had > > > some interesting ideas in this area that i'm not sure have gotten > > > outside of > > the > > > dev list as of yet. > > > > > > >
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I could write something for .NET. Added GraphBinary support and switching the JSON library could be interesting for some Gremlin.Net users. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Stephen Mallette Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. April 2021 21:32 An: dev@tinkerpop.apache.org Betreff: Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers Right now, I think it's fine for these to just have each person's individual style - might make the posts more interesting assuming we get a few more volunteers. If you can come up with a neat image that could go with a tweet to promote the announcement (that we will push through the TinkerPop account), that would be cool. We've not really come up with anything that sort of iconifies the gremlin-language module, so if you feel like thinking about that, that would be neat. On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 2:45 PM Joshua Shinavier wrote: > Sounds good. I'll write the announcement. If you have thoughts on the > format, please feel free to share. > > Josh > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:56 AM Stephen Mallette > > wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 1:38 PM Joshua Shinavier > > wrote: > > > > > I would be happy to collaborate on gremlin-language if there is > something > > > which needs doing. > > > > > > Josh > > > > > > > > great josh - thanks! The upgrade docs sorta tuck that feature away > > in the provider section > > > > > https://tinkerpop.apache.org/docs/3.5.0-SNAPSHOT/upgrade/#_gremlin_lan > guage > > > > because at this point it doesn't have direct user impact, but i > > think it might be useful to the community to write something in an > > announcement > that > > helps describe what this module lays the foundation for. you've had > > some interesting ideas in this area that i'm not sure have gotten > > outside of > the > > dev list as of yet. > > >
Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers
Right now, I think it's fine for these to just have each person's individual style - might make the posts more interesting assuming we get a few more volunteers. If you can come up with a neat image that could go with a tweet to promote the announcement (that we will push through the TinkerPop account), that would be cool. We've not really come up with anything that sort of iconifies the gremlin-language module, so if you feel like thinking about that, that would be neat. On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 2:45 PM Joshua Shinavier wrote: > Sounds good. I'll write the announcement. If you have thoughts on the > format, please feel free to share. > > Josh > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:56 AM Stephen Mallette > wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 1:38 PM Joshua Shinavier > > wrote: > > > > > I would be happy to collaborate on gremlin-language if there is > something > > > which needs doing. > > > > > > Josh > > > > > > > > great josh - thanks! The upgrade docs sorta tuck that feature away in the > > provider section > > > > > https://tinkerpop.apache.org/docs/3.5.0-SNAPSHOT/upgrade/#_gremlin_language > > > > because at this point it doesn't have direct user impact, but i think it > > might be useful to the community to write something in an announcement > that > > helps describe what this module lays the foundation for. you've had some > > interesting ideas in this area that i'm not sure have gotten outside of > the > > dev list as of yet. > > >
Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers
Sounds good. I'll write the announcement. If you have thoughts on the format, please feel free to share. Josh On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:56 AM Stephen Mallette wrote: > On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 1:38 PM Joshua Shinavier > wrote: > > > I would be happy to collaborate on gremlin-language if there is something > > which needs doing. > > > > Josh > > > > > great josh - thanks! The upgrade docs sorta tuck that feature away in the > provider section > > https://tinkerpop.apache.org/docs/3.5.0-SNAPSHOT/upgrade/#_gremlin_language > > because at this point it doesn't have direct user impact, but i think it > might be useful to the community to write something in an announcement that > helps describe what this module lays the foundation for. you've had some > interesting ideas in this area that i'm not sure have gotten outside of the > dev list as of yet. >
Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers
On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 1:38 PM Joshua Shinavier wrote: > I would be happy to collaborate on gremlin-language if there is something > which needs doing. > > Josh > > great josh - thanks! The upgrade docs sorta tuck that feature away in the provider section https://tinkerpop.apache.org/docs/3.5.0-SNAPSHOT/upgrade/#_gremlin_language because at this point it doesn't have direct user impact, but i think it might be useful to the community to write something in an announcement that helps describe what this module lays the foundation for. you've had some interesting ideas in this area that i'm not sure have gotten outside of the dev list as of yet.
Re: 3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers
I would be happy to collaborate on gremlin-language if there is something which needs doing. Josh On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 10:24 AM Stephen Mallette wrote: > 3.5.0 is a fairly big release. There's too much in there to summarize in a > single announcement email. I was thinking that we might produce multiple > tweets/posts to follow the main announcement that would call attention to > important changes. I think that each announcement should hopefully do a bit > more than re-hash the upgrade documentation - hopefully each announcement > can either expand on a batch of changes or focus in on a single item from > the upgrade docs. > > We'd look to start sending these out immediately after our general release > announcement which should occur Monday, May 10. I'd like to try to have a > schedule of these posts ready by the middle of next week and I'd think > drafts in review by next Friday, May 7. If you have a 3.5.0 feature that > you'd like to author/collaborate on and have a bit of time in your schedule > to work on this, then please reply to this thread and we can get organized. > > Thanks, > > Stephen >
3.5.0 Announcement Volunteers
3.5.0 is a fairly big release. There's too much in there to summarize in a single announcement email. I was thinking that we might produce multiple tweets/posts to follow the main announcement that would call attention to important changes. I think that each announcement should hopefully do a bit more than re-hash the upgrade documentation - hopefully each announcement can either expand on a batch of changes or focus in on a single item from the upgrade docs. We'd look to start sending these out immediately after our general release announcement which should occur Monday, May 10. I'd like to try to have a schedule of these posts ready by the middle of next week and I'd think drafts in review by next Friday, May 7. If you have a 3.5.0 feature that you'd like to author/collaborate on and have a bit of time in your schedule to work on this, then please reply to this thread and we can get organized. Thanks, Stephen
