Re: [tomcat] branch BZ-63835/8.5.x created (now 6ff2233)

2019-10-11 Thread Michael Osipov

Am 2019-10-11 um 16:07 schrieb Rémy Maucherat:

On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 3:46 PM Michael Osipov  wrote:


Am 2019-10-11 um 15:10 schrieb Rémy Maucherat:

On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 1:51 PM Michael Osipov 

wrote:



Am 2019-10-11 um 11:32 schrieb Rémy Maucherat:

On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 10:43 AM Mark Thomas  wrote:


On 11/10/2019 09:30, micha...@apache.org wrote:

This is an automated email from the ASF dual-hosted git repository.

michaelo pushed a change to branch BZ-63835/8.5.x


New features should be implemented against master and then back-ported
(assuming the community accepts them).



I also (still) prefer either PRs (it allows comments) or in master.


This is a first draft, nothing PR worthy. As soon as I see the code
working, I will create the PR by then and when approved in general I
will add tests and re-request review. So please be patient.



For this use I'd recommend using your own forked repository then. Using a
branch for that doesn't work for me, it sends way too many emails that

are

not actually useful to dev to the dev mailing list. I tried for a while,

it

didn't work, sorry :(


I am not really convinced by this and I will tell you why:

* Other TLPs have a commits@ for this
* The purpose of branches is exactly to work on something
* Having it in a fork would take the ability away that people instantly
notice my intermediate changes in a canonical location and leave
valuable comments as you did guys. No one will look at my fork as long
as I don't request it. I rather fix an issue early than two weeks later
in the PR.



I disagree with this so I will draft and hold a formal vote on this to
clarify the rules regarding the use of private branches.


Sounds reasonable.


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Re: [tomcat] branch BZ-63835/8.5.x created (now 6ff2233)

2019-10-11 Thread Rémy Maucherat
On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 3:46 PM Michael Osipov  wrote:

> Am 2019-10-11 um 15:10 schrieb Rémy Maucherat:
> > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 1:51 PM Michael Osipov 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Am 2019-10-11 um 11:32 schrieb Rémy Maucherat:
> >>> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 10:43 AM Mark Thomas  wrote:
> >>>
>  On 11/10/2019 09:30, micha...@apache.org wrote:
> > This is an automated email from the ASF dual-hosted git repository.
> >
> > michaelo pushed a change to branch BZ-63835/8.5.x
> 
>  New features should be implemented against master and then back-ported
>  (assuming the community accepts them).
> 
> >>>
> >>> I also (still) prefer either PRs (it allows comments) or in master.
> >>
> >> This is a first draft, nothing PR worthy. As soon as I see the code
> >> working, I will create the PR by then and when approved in general I
> >> will add tests and re-request review. So please be patient.
> >>
> >
> > For this use I'd recommend using your own forked repository then. Using a
> > branch for that doesn't work for me, it sends way too many emails that
> are
> > not actually useful to dev to the dev mailing list. I tried for a while,
> it
> > didn't work, sorry :(
>
> I am not really convinced by this and I will tell you why:
>
> * Other TLPs have a commits@ for this
> * The purpose of branches is exactly to work on something
> * Having it in a fork would take the ability away that people instantly
> notice my intermediate changes in a canonical location and leave
> valuable comments as you did guys. No one will look at my fork as long
> as I don't request it. I rather fix an issue early than two weeks later
> in the PR.
>

I disagree with this so I will draft and hold a formal vote on this to
clarify the rules regarding the use of private branches.

Rémy


Re: [tomcat] branch BZ-63835/8.5.x created (now 6ff2233)

2019-10-11 Thread Michael Osipov

Am 2019-10-11 um 15:20 schrieb Mark Thomas:

On 11/10/2019 14:10, Rémy Maucherat wrote:

On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 1:51 PM Michael Osipov mailto:micha...@apache.org>> wrote:

 Am 2019-10-11 um 11:32 schrieb Rémy Maucherat:
 > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 10:43 AM Mark Thomas mailto:ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
 >
 >> On 11/10/2019 09:30, micha...@apache.org
  wrote:
 >>> This is an automated email from the ASF dual-hosted git repository.
 >>>
 >>> michaelo pushed a change to branch BZ-63835/8.5.x
 >>
 >> New features should be implemented against master and then
 back-ported
 >> (assuming the community accepts them).
 >>
 >
 > I also (still) prefer either PRs (it allows comments) or in master.

 This is a first draft, nothing PR worthy. As soon as I see the code
 working, I will create the PR by then and when approved in general I
 will add tests and re-request review. So please be patient.


For this use I'd recommend using your own forked repository then. Using
a branch for that doesn't work for me, it sends way too many emails that
are not actually useful to dev to the dev mailing list. I tried for a
while, it didn't work, sorry :(


I use upstream so much I should probably reconfigure the names of the
remotes in my checkout:
origin -> fork
upstream -> origin


This doesn't feel right. Origin always denotes the repo you cloned from, 
your fork. So keeping origin and upstream seems fine. I call upstream 
simply 'apache' in my forked ones and point to gitbox.apache.org.


Michael


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Re: [tomcat] branch BZ-63835/8.5.x created (now 6ff2233)

2019-10-11 Thread Michael Osipov

Am 2019-10-11 um 15:10 schrieb Rémy Maucherat:

On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 1:51 PM Michael Osipov  wrote:


Am 2019-10-11 um 11:32 schrieb Rémy Maucherat:

On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 10:43 AM Mark Thomas  wrote:


On 11/10/2019 09:30, micha...@apache.org wrote:

This is an automated email from the ASF dual-hosted git repository.

michaelo pushed a change to branch BZ-63835/8.5.x


New features should be implemented against master and then back-ported
(assuming the community accepts them).



I also (still) prefer either PRs (it allows comments) or in master.


This is a first draft, nothing PR worthy. As soon as I see the code
working, I will create the PR by then and when approved in general I
will add tests and re-request review. So please be patient.



For this use I'd recommend using your own forked repository then. Using a
branch for that doesn't work for me, it sends way too many emails that are
not actually useful to dev to the dev mailing list. I tried for a while, it
didn't work, sorry :(


I am not really convinced by this and I will tell you why:

* Other TLPs have a commits@ for this
* The purpose of branches is exactly to work on something
* Having it in a fork would take the ability away that people instantly 
notice my intermediate changes in a canonical location and leave 
valuable comments as you did guys. No one will look at my fork as long 
as I don't request it. I rather fix an issue early than two weeks later 
in the PR.



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Re: [tomcat] branch BZ-63835/8.5.x created (now 6ff2233)

2019-10-11 Thread Mark Thomas
On 11/10/2019 14:10, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 1:51 PM Michael Osipov  > wrote:
> 
> Am 2019-10-11 um 11:32 schrieb Rémy Maucherat:
> > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 10:43 AM Mark Thomas  > wrote:
> >
> >> On 11/10/2019 09:30, micha...@apache.org
>  wrote:
> >>> This is an automated email from the ASF dual-hosted git repository.
> >>>
> >>> michaelo pushed a change to branch BZ-63835/8.5.x
> >>
> >> New features should be implemented against master and then
> back-ported
> >> (assuming the community accepts them).
> >>
> >
> > I also (still) prefer either PRs (it allows comments) or in master.
> 
> This is a first draft, nothing PR worthy. As soon as I see the code
> working, I will create the PR by then and when approved in general I
> will add tests and re-request review. So please be patient.
> 
> 
> For this use I'd recommend using your own forked repository then. Using
> a branch for that doesn't work for me, it sends way too many emails that
> are not actually useful to dev to the dev mailing list. I tried for a
> while, it didn't work, sorry :(
> 
> So either:
> - a PR
> - directly in master

master is fine when you are fairly sure the code is right. It isn't the
place for experiments since we release 9.0.x off master.

> - your git fork

I use the fork approach.

I have a local checkout of my fork with the apache/tomcat github mirror
configured as an additional remote called "upstream".

Most of the time I work on upstream but occasionally, I'll push
something to the fork and generate a PR to obtain feedback.

I also use the fork if I need to share in-progress work between my
desktop and laptop.

I use upstream so much I should probably reconfigure the names of the
remotes in my checkout:
origin -> fork
upstream -> origin

Mark

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Re: [tomcat] branch BZ-63835/8.5.x created (now 6ff2233)

2019-10-11 Thread Rémy Maucherat
On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 1:51 PM Michael Osipov  wrote:

> Am 2019-10-11 um 11:32 schrieb Rémy Maucherat:
> > On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 10:43 AM Mark Thomas  wrote:
> >
> >> On 11/10/2019 09:30, micha...@apache.org wrote:
> >>> This is an automated email from the ASF dual-hosted git repository.
> >>>
> >>> michaelo pushed a change to branch BZ-63835/8.5.x
> >>
> >> New features should be implemented against master and then back-ported
> >> (assuming the community accepts them).
> >>
> >
> > I also (still) prefer either PRs (it allows comments) or in master.
>
> This is a first draft, nothing PR worthy. As soon as I see the code
> working, I will create the PR by then and when approved in general I
> will add tests and re-request review. So please be patient.
>

For this use I'd recommend using your own forked repository then. Using a
branch for that doesn't work for me, it sends way too many emails that are
not actually useful to dev to the dev mailing list. I tried for a while, it
didn't work, sorry :(

So either:
- a PR
- directly in master
- your git fork

Rémy


Re: [tomcat] branch BZ-63835/8.5.x created (now 6ff2233)

2019-10-11 Thread Michael Osipov

Am 2019-10-11 um 11:32 schrieb Rémy Maucherat:

On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 10:43 AM Mark Thomas  wrote:


On 11/10/2019 09:30, micha...@apache.org wrote:

This is an automated email from the ASF dual-hosted git repository.

michaelo pushed a change to branch BZ-63835/8.5.x


New features should be implemented against master and then back-ported
(assuming the community accepts them).



I also (still) prefer either PRs (it allows comments) or in master.


This is a first draft, nothing PR worthy. As soon as I see the code 
working, I will create the PR by then and when approved in general I 
will add tests and re-request review. So please be patient.


Michael


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Re: [tomcat] branch BZ-63835/8.5.x created (now 6ff2233)

2019-10-11 Thread Rémy Maucherat
On Fri, Oct 11, 2019 at 10:43 AM Mark Thomas  wrote:

> On 11/10/2019 09:30, micha...@apache.org wrote:
> > This is an automated email from the ASF dual-hosted git repository.
> >
> > michaelo pushed a change to branch BZ-63835/8.5.x
>
> New features should be implemented against master and then back-ported
> (assuming the community accepts them).
>

I also (still) prefer either PRs (it allows comments) or in master.

Rémy


>
> Mark
>
>
> > in repository https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf/tomcat.git.
> >
> >
> >   at 6ff2233  First draft
> >
> > This branch includes the following new commits:
> >
> >  new 6ff2233  First draft
> >
> > The 1 revisions listed above as "new" are entirely new to this
> > repository and will be described in separate emails.  The revisions
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Re: [tomcat] branch BZ-63835/8.5.x created (now 6ff2233)

2019-10-11 Thread Mark Thomas
On 11/10/2019 09:30, micha...@apache.org wrote:
> This is an automated email from the ASF dual-hosted git repository.
> 
> michaelo pushed a change to branch BZ-63835/8.5.x

New features should be implemented against master and then back-ported
(assuming the community accepts them).

Mark


> in repository https://gitbox.apache.org/repos/asf/tomcat.git.
> 
> 
>   at 6ff2233  First draft
> 
> This branch includes the following new commits:
> 
>  new 6ff2233  First draft
> 
> The 1 revisions listed above as "new" are entirely new to this
> repository and will be described in separate emails.  The revisions
> listed as "add" were already present in the repository and have only
> been added to this reference.
> 
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