Re: Dropping support for MSVC2012

2015-01-06 Thread Neil
Ted Mielczarek wrote: Especially with something like MSVC, where some contributors have actually paid for Pro versions of the suite and telling them to upgrade involves spending actual money that can be a huge deterrent. That's unfortunate since the professional VC2005, VC2008, VC2010 and

Firefox desktop platform team: Q1 areas of focus

2015-01-06 Thread Benjamin Smedberg
I wanted to shared publicly the projects and areas of focus that the Firefox Desktop Platform team in Q1. *Video quality issues, especially Flash video:* We have market data which indicates that one of the most important pain points for Firefox users is problems with video. We have several

PSA: Support for building with Visual C++ 2012 removed from Gecko 37

2015-01-06 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
I just landed bug to remove support for building with Visual C++ 2012 as per the previous dev-platform thread. This will make the following C++11 features available to use in Mozilla code: * variadic templates * initializer lists * =delete (we can probably remove MOZ_DELETE now) * =default *

W3C Proposed Recommendation: Server-Sent Events

2015-01-06 Thread L. David Baron
W3C recently published the following proposed recommendation (the stage before W3C's final stage, Recommendation): Server-Sent Events http://www.w3.org/TR/eventsource/ There's a call for review to W3C member companies (of which Mozilla is one) open until this Friday, January 9. If there are

W3C Proposed Recommendation: Vibration API

2015-01-06 Thread L. David Baron
W3C recently published the following proposed recommendation (the stage before W3C's final stage, Recommendation): http://www.w3.org/TR/vibration/ Vibration API There's a call for review to W3C member companies (of which Mozilla is one) open until January 20. If there are comments you think

W3C Proposed Recommendation: Pointer Events

2015-01-06 Thread L. David Baron
W3C recently published the following proposed recommendation (the stage before W3C's final stage, Recommendation): http://www.w3.org/TR/pointerevents/ Pointer Events There's a call for review to W3C member companies (of which Mozilla is one) open until January 16. If there are comments you

Re: W3C Proposed Recommendation: longdesc

2015-01-06 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 2015-01-06 6:13 PM, L. David Baron wrote: (I'm not happy about this spec; for a good description of why, see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2014Aug/0028.html . I'm also under the impression that they're using Mozilla's implementation of it as support for the spec, which

W3C Proposed Recommendation: longdesc

2015-01-06 Thread L. David Baron
W3C recently published the following proposed recommendation (the stage before W3C's final stage, Recommendation): http://www.w3.org/TR/html-longdesc/ HTML5 Image Description Extension (longdesc) There's a call for review to W3C member companies (of which Mozilla is one) open until January

Re: W3C Proposed Recommendation: longdesc

2015-01-06 Thread Jet Villegas
The current Firefox implementation via a context-menu item (presumably available to screen readers) seems innocuous to me. While I agree with many of the points objecting to the spec, I don't see much upside for us (and plenty of downside) to deprecating the feature without a counter-proposal.

Re: W3C Proposed Recommendation: longdesc

2015-01-06 Thread Gavin Sharp
What downsides do you see? Gavin On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Jet Villegas jville...@mozilla.com wrote: The current Firefox implementation via a context-menu item (presumably available to screen readers) seems innocuous to me. While I agree with many of the points objecting to the spec, I

Re: W3C Proposed Recommendation: longdesc

2015-01-06 Thread Robert O'Callahan
On Wed, Jan 7, 2015 at 3:37 PM, Jet Villegas jville...@mozilla.com wrote: The main downside I see is a potential Mozilla removes features used by disabled people... PR fiasco. I think we can avoid that with a better proposal that we do support. Maybe Marco Zehe would be interested in

Re: W3C Proposed Recommendation: longdesc

2015-01-06 Thread Justin Dolske
On 1/6/15 6:37 PM, Jet Villegas wrote: The main downside I see is a potential Mozilla removes features used by disabled people... PR fiasco. I think we can avoid that with a better proposal that we do support. I'd be really curious to see if this is actually being used by anyone. We're

Re: W3C Proposed Recommendation: longdesc

2015-01-06 Thread Jet Villegas
The main downside I see is a potential Mozilla removes features used by disabled people... PR fiasco. I think we can avoid that with a better proposal that we do support. On Tue, Jan 6, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Gavin Sharp ga...@gavinsharp.com wrote: What downsides do you see? Gavin On Tue, Jan 6,