The Committee is meeting next week in Rapperswil, Switzerland. I will be
attending.
...
Shortly after the meeting I will blog about what happened there - stay
tuned!
I just published my blog post about the Rapperswil committee meeting:
There should be a way to indicate in a switch statement whether you intend
to cover all the cases:
enum A { a, b, c };
switch (x) {
case a:
return true;
case b:
return false;
}
There needs to be a way to tell the compiler to
On 7/17/2014 9:18 PM, Botond Ballo wrote:
std::shared_ptr is mostly unusable in Gecko code because there's no way to
specify whether you need thread-safety or not (usually you don't). There
should be a way to specify whether you want to pay the cost of thread
safety when using it.
I would like
1. Mandating that you need to publish something doesn't mean it will
actually get published. C++ requires that compilers publish the
implementation-defined behavior decisions they make. I don't see any
documents for that for MSVC [which only has C] or Clang.
I asked some Clang developers
- Original Message -
From: Joshua Cranmer pidgeo...@gmail.com
Is the status quo really that bad?
I think the fact that we're not seeing a proliferation of non-{header-only}
C++ libraries - that is, that people still view C as the go-to language
for ABI stability - is evidence that
On 6/22/2014 5:51 PM, Botond Ballo wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Joshua Cranmer pidgeo...@gmail.com
Is the status quo really that bad?
I think the fact that we're not seeing a proliferation of non-{header-only}
C++ libraries - that is, that people still view C as the go-to
On 6/20/2014 4:44 AM, Botond Ballo wrote:
Why object to this proposal, then? Even if it will, in practice, take
a very long time for some projects to adopt extern abi and std::abi,
this seems better than the status quo.
Is the status quo really that bad? MSVC can publish its ABI as is, and
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 3:31 AM, Botond Ballo bba...@mozilla.com wrote:
Reflection proposals (these are very early-stage proposals, but they
give an idea of the directions people are exploring):
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2014/n3987.pdf
- Original Message -
From: Joshua Cranmer pidgeo...@gmail.com
Perhaps a bit late to be saying this, but after reading this paper, I've
come to object to it.
Appreciate the feedback. I have some clarification questions to help me
understand your objections better.
It explicitly
On 6/19/2014 5:55 PM, Botond Ballo wrote:
Are you saying that gcc - assuming that for some platforms, it is
considered the platform vendor, and therefore the provider of std::abi -
would likely ship their non-conforming std::string as std::abi::string
in order to maintain ABI compatibility
On 6/9/2014 2:31 PM, Botond Ballo wrote:
Portable C++ ABI:
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2014/n4028.pdf
Perhaps a bit late to be saying this, but after reading this paper, I've
come to object to it.
A portable ABI can mean one of several things:
1. A well-defined,
On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 4:19 PM, Botond Ballo bba...@mozilla.com wrote:
Why put this into core C++? Why not leave it to libraries?
The standard library is a library :)
One of the biggest criticisms C++ faces is that its standard library is
very narrow in scope compared to other languages
From: Brian Smith br...@briansmith.org
C++ desperately needs improvements for reducing the occurrence of
use-after-free errors. Rust features for this like borrowed references
should be imported into the language. A real-life (but reduced/modified)
example from mozilla::pkix:
Result
On 2014-06-11, 1:42 PM, Botond Ballo wrote:
I'd very much like to see this as well!
The C++11 attribute syntax might be a good way to accomplish this without
inventing new syntax. For example, the standard could define an exhaustive
attribute on a switch statement for an enumeration:
enum
On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 12:31:39PM -0700, Botond Ballo wrote:
Hi everyone,
Here are some C++ standards proposals from the latest committee mailing
that I think might be of interest to the Mozilla community:
Portable C++ ABI:
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:45 PM, Benoit Jacob jacob.benoi...@gmail.com
wrote:
I would like the C++ committee's attention to be drawn to the dangers, for
committee, to try to make decisions outside of its domain of expertise. I
see more potential for harm than for good in having the C++ committee
- Original Message -
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 9:45 PM, Benoit Jacob jacob.benoi...@gmail.com
wrote:
I would like the C++ committee's attention to be drawn to the dangers, for
committee, to try to make decisions outside of its domain of expertise. I
see more potential for harm than
@lists.mozilla.org, Jet Villegas
j...@mozilla.com
Sent: Monday, June 9, 2014 2:08:37 PM
Subject: Re: C++ standards proposals of potential interest, and upcoming
committee meeting
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Benoit Jacob jacob.benoi...@gmail.com
wrote:
2014-06-09 16
Why put this into core C++? Why not leave it to libraries?
The standard library is a library :)
One of the biggest criticisms C++ faces is that its standard library is
very narrow in scope compared to other languages like Java or C#, and thus
programmers often have to turn to third-party
If C++ wants a default, just package Cairo (or something else) as a library
alongside Clang/LLVM or GCC.
I think that's largely what's being proposed!
Cheers,
Botond
___
dev-platform mailing list
dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org
Hi everyone,
Here are some C++ standards proposals from the latest committee mailing
that I think might be of interest to the Mozilla community:
Portable C++ ABI:
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2014/n4028.pdf
Modules:
2014-06-09 15:31 GMT-04:00 Botond Ballo bba...@mozilla.com:
Cairo-based 2D drawing API (latest revision):
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2014/n4021.pdf
I would like the C++ committee's attention to be drawn to the dangers, for
committee, to try to make decisions outside
- Original Message -
From: Benoit Jacob jacob.benoi...@gmail.com
To: Botond Ballo bba...@mozilla.com
Cc: dev-platform dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org
Sent: Monday, June 9, 2014 3:45:20 PM
Subject: Re: C++ standards proposals of potential interest, and upcoming
committee meeting
proposals of potential interest, and upcoming
committee meeting
2014-06-09 15:31 GMT-04:00 Botond Ballo bba...@mozilla.com:
Cairo-based 2D drawing API (latest revision):
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2014/n4021.pdf
I would like the C++ committee's attention
It seems healthy for the core C++ language to explore new territory here.
Modern primitives for things like pixels and colors would be a good thing, I
think. Let the compiler vendors compete to boil it down to the CPU/GPU. There
will always be the argument for keeping such things out of Systems
Sent: Monday, June 9, 2014 3:45:20 PM
Subject: Re: C++ standards proposals of potential interest, and
upcoming committee meeting
2014-06-09 15:31 GMT-04:00 Botond Ballo bba...@mozilla.com:
Cairo-based 2D drawing API (latest revision):
http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs
To: Botond Ballo bba...@mozilla.com
Cc: dev-platform dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org
Sent: Monday, June 9, 2014 3:45:20 PM
Subject: Re: C++ standards proposals of potential interest, and
upcoming committee meeting
2014-06-09 15:31 GMT-04:00 Botond Ballo bba...@mozilla.com
2014-06-09 16:27 GMT-04:00 Jet Villegas j...@mozilla.com:
It seems healthy for the core C++ language to explore new territory here.
Modern primitives for things like pixels and colors would be a good thing,
I think. Let the compiler vendors compete to boil it down to the CPU/GPU.
In the Web
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Benoit Jacob jacob.benoi...@gmail.com
wrote:
2014-06-09 16:27 GMT-04:00 Jet Villegas j...@mozilla.com:
It seems healthy for the core C++ language to explore new territory here.
Modern primitives for things like pixels and colors would be a good
thing,
I
proposals of potential interest, and upcoming
committee meeting
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Benoit Jacob jacob.benoi...@gmail.com
wrote:
2014-06-09 16:27 GMT-04:00 Jet Villegas j...@mozilla.com:
It seems healthy for the core C++ language to explore new territory here.
Modern
...@mozilla.com
Sent: Monday, June 9, 2014 2:08:37 PM
Subject: Re: C++ standards proposals of potential interest, and upcoming
committee meeting
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Benoit Jacob jacob.benoi...@gmail.com
wrote:
2014-06-09 16:27 GMT-04:00 Jet Villegas j...@mozilla.com
31 matches
Mail list logo
