Re: Intent to Use Counter: Everything

2016-05-10 Thread Mike Taylor
On 5/10/16 3:05 PM, Jack Moffitt wrote: We have the Chrome popularity data, and we have the Edge team's data which covers the CSS spectrum quite well. I think it would be far more useful to start covering the DOM API spectrum. For example, it's pretty clear from existing data sources which CSS

Re: Intent to Use Counter: Everything

2016-05-10 Thread Jack Moffitt
We have the Chrome popularity data, and we have the Edge team's data which covers the CSS spectrum quite well. I think it would be far more useful to start covering the DOM API spectrum. For example, it's pretty clear from existing data sources which CSS properties Servo should focus on. But we

Re: Intent to Use Counter: Everything

2016-05-10 Thread Steve Fink
On 05/10/2016 01:05 PM, Jack Moffitt wrote: We have the Chrome popularity data, and we have the Edge team's data which covers the CSS spectrum quite well. I think it would be far more useful to start covering the DOM API spectrum. For example, it's pretty clear from existing data sources which

Intent to Use Counter: Everything

2016-05-10 Thread Mike Taylor
Having recently discovered UseCounters.conf[1], I'd like to add use counters for all CSS properties, starting with prefixed props. And likewise for Moz-prefixed DOM props and methods. Ultimately, I'd like us to have a Firefox equivalent to https://www.chromestatus.com/metrics/css/popularity

Re: Intent to Use Counter: Everything

2016-05-10 Thread Mike Taylor
On 5/10/16 2:11 PM, Mike Taylor wrote: Having recently discovered UseCounters.conf[1], I'd like to add use counters for all CSS properties, starting with prefixed props. And likewise for Moz-prefixed DOM props and methods. Link to bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1271752 --

Re: Reverting to VS2013 on central and aurora

2016-05-10 Thread Gregory Szorc
On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 9:26 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: > There is a compiler bug in VS2015 that results in SSE instructions being > emitted when they shouldn't be. Since Firefox still needs to remain > compatible with ancient hardware that doesn't support SSE, this is causing >

Request Feedback - Submitting Canvas Frames, WebVR Compositor

2016-05-10 Thread Kearwood "Kip" Gilbert
Hello All, In order to support features in the WebVR 1.0 API (https://mozvr.com/webvr-spec/) and to improve performance for WebVR, I would like to implement an optimized path for submitting Canvas and OffscreenCanvas frames to VR headsets. The WebVR 1.0 API introduces "VR Layers", explicit

Re: Reverting to VS2013 on central and aurora

2016-05-10 Thread Lawrence Mandel
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 7:05 PM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: > On 2016-05-10 4:45 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: > > On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 9:26 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: > > > >> There is a compiler bug in VS2015 that results in SSE instructions being > >> emitted

Re: Reverting to VS2013 on central and aurora

2016-05-10 Thread Lawrence Mandel
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 7:29 PM, Xidorn Quan wrote: > On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 6:45 AM, Gregory Szorc wrote: > > > On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 9:26 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: > > > > > There is a compiler bug in VS2015 that results in SSE

Re: Intent to Use Counter: Everything

2016-05-10 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Mike Taylor wrote: > On 5/10/16 3:05 PM, Jack Moffitt wrote: > >> We have the Chrome popularity data, and we have the Edge team's data >> which covers the CSS spectrum quite well. I think it would be far more >> useful to start covering the DOM

Re: Reverting to VS2013 on central and aurora

2016-05-10 Thread Lawrence Mandel
On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Benjamin Smedberg wrote: > I agree that we should drop support for non-SSE2. It mattered 7 years ago > (see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=500277) but it really > doesn't matter now. > > We do need to avoid updating these

Re: Reverting to VS2013 on central and aurora

2016-05-10 Thread Xidorn Quan
On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Lawrence Mandel wrote: > > On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 7:29 PM, Xidorn Quan > wrote: > >> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 6:45 AM, Gregory Szorc wrote: >> >> > On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 9:26 PM, Gregory Szorc

Re: Intent to deprecate: MacOS 10.6-10.8 support

2016-05-10 Thread Lawrence Mandel
On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 6:43 AM, Xidorn Quan wrote: > On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > On Fri, May 06, 2016 at 06:01:12PM +1000, Xidorn Quan wrote: > > > > > > It's Firefox 48, three versions after ESR 45, which is roughly halfway

Re: Intent to deprecate: MacOS 10.6-10.8 support

2016-05-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 10:58:25PM -0400, Lawrence Mandel wrote: > On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 6:43 AM, Xidorn Quan wrote: > > > On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > > > On Fri, May 06, 2016 at 06:01:12PM +1000, Xidorn Quan wrote: > > > >

Re: Reverting to VS2013 on central and aurora

2016-05-10 Thread Robert Strong
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 6:55 PM, Lawrence Mandel wrote: > On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Benjamin Smedberg > wrote: > > > I agree that we should drop support for non-SSE2. It mattered 7 years ago > > (see

Re: Telemetry experiments need to be easier (on Nightly)

2016-05-10 Thread Kartikaya Gupta
Just to close the loop on this, I went ahead and updated the wiki pages at [1] and [2] to reflect that some parts of the process are more optional than they originally seemed. I also tried to generally make the documentation simpler to follow and less redundant/contradictory. Finally, I filed bug

Re: Telemetry experiments need to be easier (on Nightly)

2016-05-10 Thread Kartikaya Gupta
err [1] is https://wiki.mozilla.org/Telemetry/Experiments and [2] is https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Telemetry/Developing_a_Telemetry_Experiment :) On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Kartikaya Gupta wrote: > Just to close the loop on this, I went ahead and updated the wiki > pages