Re: Proposed W3C Charter: WebRTC Working Group

2015-03-06 Thread Eric Rescorla
+1 On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 3:13 PM, Adam Roach a...@mozilla.com wrote: On 3/2/15 12:53, L. David Baron wrote: The W3C is proposing a revised charter for: Web Real-Time Communications Working Group http://www.w3.org/2015/02/webrtc-charter.html

Intent to implement: Path2D option for addHitRegion

2015-03-06 Thread Milan Sreckovic
From the standard (https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/scripting.html#dom-hitregionoptions-path): A Path2D object that describes the pixels that form part of the region. If this member is not provided, or is set to null, the current default path is used instead. The bug:

PSA: __noSuchMethod__ is deprecated in SpiderMonkey

2015-03-06 Thread Jan De Mooij
We've deprecated [0] __noSuchMethod__ [1] support in SpiderMonkey. It's a non-standard feature that no other engine supports, and it's been hindering ongoing performance work as __noSuchMethod__ is not trivial to support in the JITs. I've posted patches to convert all in-tree and add-on SDK uses

Re: Intent to deprecate: persistent permissions over HTTP

2015-03-06 Thread andreas . gal
Is the threat model for all of these permissions significant enough to warrant the breakage? Popups for example are annoying, but a spoofed origin to take advantage of whitelisted popups seems not terribly dangerous. Thanks, Andreas On Mar 6, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Anne van Kesteren

Re: Intent to deprecate: persistent permissions over HTTP

2015-03-06 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:33 PM, andreas@gmail.com wrote: Is the threat model for all of these permissions significant enough to warrant the breakage? What breakage do you envision? Having said that: * Geolocation allow for tracking the user * Notifications allow for spamming the user *

Re: Intent to deprecate: persistent permissions over HTTP

2015-03-06 Thread andreas . gal
On Mar 6, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:33 PM, andreas@gmail.com wrote: Is the threat model for all of these permissions significant enough to warrant the breakage? What breakage do you envision? I can no longer unblock popups

Re: Intent to deprecate: persistent permissions over HTTP

2015-03-06 Thread andreas . gal
On Mar 6, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Ehsan Akhgari ehsan.akhg...@gmail.com wrote: On 2015-03-06 1:14 PM, andreas@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 6, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:33 PM, andreas@gmail.com wrote: Is the threat model for all

Re: Intent to deprecate: persistent permissions over HTTP

2015-03-06 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 2015-03-06 1:23 PM, andreas@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 6, 2015, at 6:18 PM, Ehsan Akhgari ehsan.akhg...@gmail.com wrote: On 2015-03-06 1:14 PM, andreas@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 6, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:33 PM,

Intent to deprecate: persistent permissions over HTTP

2015-03-06 Thread Anne van Kesteren
A large number of permissions we currently allow users to store persistently for a given origin. I suggest we stop offering that functionality when there's no lock in the address bar. This will make it harder for a network attacker to abuse these permissions. This would affect UX for: *

Re: Intent to deprecate: persistent permissions over HTTP

2015-03-06 Thread Gijs Kruitbosch
On 06/03/2015 17:27, Anne van Kesteren wrote: A large number of permissions we currently allow users to store persistently for a given origin. I suggest we stop offering that functionality when there's no lock in the address bar. Can we make an exception for localhost and its IPv4 and IPv6

Re: Intent to deprecate: persistent permissions over HTTP

2015-03-06 Thread Ehsan Akhgari
On 2015-03-06 1:14 PM, andreas@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 6, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote: On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 6:33 PM, andreas@gmail.com wrote: Is the threat model for all of these permissions significant enough to warrant the breakage? What

Re: Intent to deprecate: persistent permissions over HTTP

2015-03-06 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:12 AM, andreas@gmail.com wrote: You might say that having a local network attacker able to see what your webcam is looking at is not scary, but I'm going to disagree. Also c.f. RFC 7258. I asked for something very specific: popups. What is the threat model for

Re: Intent to deprecate: persistent permissions over HTTP

2015-03-06 Thread Bobby Holley
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Jonas Sicking jo...@sicking.cc wrote: I have the same reaction. Not allowing the user to remember that popups should be enabled on a http site is going to break a lot of websites I bet. In that users will have to constantly re-enable popups. I don't think

Re: Intent to deprecate: persistent permissions over HTTP

2015-03-06 Thread Justin Dolske
It does seem to me that popup-blocking isn't a great fit for this list. AIUI this started from Chrome's intent to start moving powerful features to SSL-only (with this being a first step), and allowing popups doesn't seem like that kind of feature. It's also worth noting that our popup blocker is

Re: The warning about the Java Deployment Toolkit should be removed.

2015-03-06 Thread naesten
On Friday, July 18, 2014 at 4:31:53 PM UTC-4, Gavin Sharp wrote: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/blocked/p428 It's not clear why some people in the bug are so up in arms about the overly broad block - is the plugin actually useful in ways we weren't aware of, or do people just not