Re: OMTC on Windows

2014-05-18 Thread avihal
Re TART regressions and Gavin's concerns - as always, we should not trust the numbers blindly. The first thing we need is probably taking few windows machines with different performance characteristics and compare tab animation perf on those machines, especially on the cases where TART shows

Re: OMTC on Windows

2014-05-19 Thread avihal
On Monday, May 19, 2014 4:36:49 AM UTC+3, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 5/18/14, 2:23 PM, Gavin Sharp wrote: OMTC is important, and I'm excited to see it land on Windows, but the Firefox and Performance teams have just come off a months-long effort to make significant wins in TART, and the

Re: B2G, email, and SSL/TLS certificate exceptions for invalid certificates

2014-05-29 Thread avihal
On Thursday, May 29, 2014 1:30:20 AM UTC+3, somb...@gmail.com wrote: We do want all users to be able to access their email, but not by compromising the security of all users. ... This decision was made based on a risk profile of ... So it looks like we know well enough what the best approach

Re: OMTC on Windows

2014-05-29 Thread avihal
So, wrt TART, I now took the time to carefully examine tab animation visually on one system. TL;DR: - I think OMTC introduces a clearly visible regression with tab animation compared to without OMTC. - I _think_ it regresses more with tab close than with tab open animation. - The actual

Re: OMTC on Windows

2014-05-30 Thread avihal
On Friday, May 30, 2014 8:22:25 AM UTC+3, Matt Woodrow wrote: Thanks Avi! I can reproduce a regression like this (~100% slower on iconFade-close-DPIcurrent.all) with my machine forced to use the intel GPU, but not with the Nvidia one. Indeed, and it's not the first time we notice

Re: OMTC on Windows

2014-05-30 Thread avihal
On Friday, May 30, 2014 1:25:33 PM UTC+3, avi...@gmail.com wrote: FWIW, IE is able to maintain 100% smooth scrolling on some really complex pages even on a _very_ low end Atom system (Intel iGPU), while Firefox doesn't come anywhere near it. Of course, I'm hoping that APZ and maybe tiling

Re: OMTC on Windows

2014-05-30 Thread avihal
On Friday, May 30, 2014 5:06:52 PM UTC+3, Gabriele Svelto wrote: On 30/05/2014 14:19, Andreas Gal wrote: If you can point us to some specific hardware we really suck on we can definitely look into this. Sure, and the hardware specs are also available at bug 894128 comment 0. 100% smooth

Re: OMTC on Windows

2014-05-30 Thread avihal
On Friday, May 30, 2014 5:48:26 PM UTC+3, avi...@gmail.com wrote: On all these systems, Firefox is far behind IE on this front, but with margins getting lower as the systems get stronger (i.e. in order of presentation - old atom, new atom, i7+hd4000). And just to complete the picture, the

Re: OMTC on Windows

2014-05-30 Thread avihal
On Friday, May 30, 2014 6:16:53 PM UTC+3, andre...@gmail.com wrote: Please read my email again. It was provided as an objective data and subjective assessment - and not as an opinion, in reply for your request for more info on systems where we suck, if I understood your request correctly.

Re: OMTC on Windows

2014-06-17 Thread avihal
On Friday, May 30, 2014 5:14:20 AM UTC+3, avi...@gmail.com wrote: So, wrt TART, I now took the time to carefully examine tab animation visually on one system. TL;DR: - I think OMTC introduces a clearly visible regression with tab animation compared to without OMTC. - I _think_ it