On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:41 AM, Vladimir Vukicevic vladim...@gmail.com wrote:
1. Check in the LibOVR sources as-is, in other-licenses/oculus. Add a
configure flag, maybe --disable-non-free, that disables building it. Build
and ship it as normal in our builds.
I think this would
a) set a
于 2014/4/15 星期二 4:06, Bobby Holley 写道:
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 11:12 AM, xunxun xunxun1...@gmail.com
mailto:xunxun1...@gmail.com wrote:
I want to use a configurable way like
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Midas/Security_preferences,
which can solve some strange issues on
于 2014/4/15 星期二 6:46, Neil 写道:
xunxun wrote:
For example, I use the policy by default on my custom build:
pref(capability.policy.policynames, pcxnojs);
pref(capability.policy.pcxnojs.sites, http://nsclick.baidu.com;);
pref(capability.policy.pcxnojs.javascript.enabled, noAccess);
I ran crashtest/reftest/marionette/xpcshell/mochitest on
emulator-x86-kk, have filed related bugs and make them block bug 753928.
Basically:
1) need to carry --emulator x86 automatically (bug 996443)
2) to add x86 emulator for xpcshell tests (bug 996473)
3) PROCESS-CRASH at the end of
I’d like to add voice to Henri’s opinion here, because it’s important.
The pivotal part of this discussion is about the precedent this establishes and
the long-term repercussions it will have.
On 15 Apr 2014, at 02:35, Vladimir Vukicevic vladim...@gmail.com wrote:
Yes -- perhaps
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Jorge Villalobos jo...@mozilla.com wrote:
FWIW, many add-ons use XPath. If there's anything we should be
recommending add-on developers to migrate to, please let me know.
It would be interesting to know what they use it for and why
querySelector() et al don't
On 15.04.2014 12:17, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Jorge Villalobos jo...@mozilla.com wrote:
FWIW, many add-ons use XPath. If there's anything we should be
recommending add-on developers to migrate to, please let me know.
It would be interesting to know what they
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Vladimir Vukicevic vladim...@gmail.comwrote:
I have a prototype of VR display and sensor integration with the web,
along with an implementation for the Oculus VR. Despite there really being
only one vendor right now, there is a lot of interest in VR. I'd
Hi
1. Check in the LibOVR sources as-is, in other-licenses/oculus. Add a
configure flag, maybe --disable-non-free, that disables building it. Build
and ship it as normal in our builds.
'--with-non-free'
But actually I'd support the option of keeping the SDK separated and
dlopen'ing the
On 15/04/2014 11:17, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Jorge Villalobos jo...@mozilla.com wrote:
FWIW, many add-ons use XPath. If there's anything we should be
recommending add-on developers to migrate to, please let me know.
It would be interesting to know what they
I want to express my thanks to everyone who contributed to this thread. We
have a lot of passionate and smart people who care about this topic- thanks
again for weighing in so far.
Below is a slightly updated policy from the original, and following that is an
attempt to summarize the thread
On 15/04/2014 14:21, Andreas Tolfsen wrote:
On 15/04/2014 11:17, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 10:54 PM, Jorge Villalobos jo...@mozilla.com
wrote:
FWIW, many add-ons use XPath. If there's anything we should be
recommending add-on developers to migrate to, please let me know.
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:21 AM, jmaher joel.ma...@gmail.com wrote:
This policy will define an escalation path for when a single test case is
identified to be leaking or failing and is causing enough disruption on the
trees. Disruption is defined as:
1) Test case is on the list of top 20
I ran crashtest/reftest/marionette/xpcshell/mochitest on emulator-x86-kk,
have filed related bugs and make them block bug 753928. Basically:
1) need to carry --emulator x86 automatically (bug 996443)
2) to add x86 emulator for xpcshell tests (bug 996473)
3) PROCESS-CRASH at the end of
On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 9:42:25 AM UTC-4, Kyle Huey wrote:
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 6:21 AM, jmaher joel.ma...@gmail.com wrote:
This policy will define an escalation path for when a single test case is
identified to be leaking or failing and is causing enough disruption on the
trees.
On 15/04/2014 14:33, Gijs Kruitbosch wrote:
On 15/04/2014 14:21, Andreas Tolfsen wrote:
On 15/04/2014 11:17, Anne van Kesteren wrote:
It would be interesting to know what they use it for and why
querySelector() et al don't meet their needs, but there's no immediate
threat of what we have going
On 2014-04-15, 12:47 AM, Andreas Gal wrote:
Vlad asked a specific question in the first email. Are we comfortable using
another open (albeit not open enough for MPL) license on trunk while we rewrite
the library? Can we compromise on trunk in order to innovate faster and only
ship to GA once
On 2014-04-15, 10:25 AM, Mike Hoye wrote:
On 2014-04-15, 12:47 AM, Andreas Gal wrote:
Vlad asked a specific question in the first email. Are we comfortable
using another open (albeit not open enough for MPL) license on trunk
while we rewrite the library? Can we compromise on trunk in order to
於 4/15/14, 9:42 PM, Randell Jesup 提到:
I ran crashtest/reftest/marionette/xpcshell/mochitest on emulator-x86-kk,
have filed related bugs and make them block bug 753928. Basically:
1) need to carry --emulator x86 automatically (bug 996443)
2) to add x86 emulator for xpcshell tests (bug 996473)
2014-04-14 18:41 GMT-04:00 Vladimir Vukicevic vladim...@gmail.com:
3. We do nothing. This option won't happen: I'm tired of not having Gecko
and Firefox at the forefront of web technology in all aspects.
Is VR already Web technology i.e. is another browser vendor already
exposing this, or
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:01 AM, xunxun xunxun1...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks.
I haven't read how to write a firefox extension yet, and I also want to
find a method that do not depent on another extension.
That may or may not be possible. You could try Neil's suggestion.
If I revert the
On 2014-04-15, 6:52 AM, Robert O'Callahan wrote:
I'd like to get this checked in so that we can either have it enabled by
default in nightlies (and nightlies only), or at least allow it enabled via
a pref. However, there's one issue -- the LibOVR library has a
not-fully-free-software license
On 4/14/14, 10:31 AM, smaug wrote:
As a reviewer I usually want to see _also_ a patch which contains all
the changes.
Otherwise it can be very difficult to see the big picture.
But sure, having large patches split to smaller pieces may help.
btw, if you have opinions about code review tools,
On 15.04.2014 00:43, Neil wrote:
Frederik Braun wrote:
A few months ago I had the idea to add a Content Security Policy (CSP)
to our internal pages, like about:newtab for example.
So this just applies to about: pages?
Primarily yes. I think some people are already working on other bits
xunxun wrote:
于 2014/4/15 星期二 6:46, Neil 写道:
xunxun wrote:
For example, I use the policy by default on my custom build:
pref(capability.policy.policynames, pcxnojs);
pref(capability.policy.pcxnojs.sites, http://nsclick.baidu.com;);
pref(capability.policy.pcxnojs.javascript.enabled,
Frederik Braun wrote:
On 15.04.2014 00:43, Neil wrote:
Frederik Braun wrote:
A few months ago I had the idea to add a Content Security Policy (CSP) to our
internal pages, like about:newtab for example.
So this just applies to about: pages?
Primarily yes. I think some people are
Mike Hoye wrote:
the window-close button being right next to the send button in
Thunderbird turns into a real problem after your third coffee, let me
tell you.
Don't you mean before your third coffee?
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On 15.04.2014 22:45, Neil wrote:
Frederik Braun wrote:
On 15.04.2014 00:43, Neil wrote:
Frederik Braun wrote:
A few months ago I had the idea to add a Content Security Policy
(CSP) to our internal pages, like about:newtab for example.
So this just applies to about: pages?
Primarily
Arguably if you wait for other vendors to expose VR before you do it,
you'll end up having to implement a sub-standard proprietary API like
you did with Web Audio. If you're first to the market (even with a
prototype that's preffed off), you can exert a lot more pressure on
how things turn out,
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Benoit Jacob jacob.benoi...@gmail.comwrote:
If VR is not yet a thing on the Web, could you elaborate on why you think
it should be?
I'm asking because the Web has so far mostly been a common denominator,
conservative platform. For example, WebGL stays at a
On 15/04/2014 22:34, K. Gadd wrote:
Arguably if you wait for other vendors to expose VR before you do it,
you'll end up having to implement a sub-standard proprietary API like
you did with Web Audio.
We had an alternative implementation + API (
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Audio_Data_API ). I
On 2014-04-15, 5:34 PM, K. Gadd wrote:
Arguably if you wait for other vendors to expose VR before you do it,
you'll end up having to implement a sub-standard proprietary API like
you did with Web Audio. If you're first to the market (even with a
prototype that's preffed off), you can exert a lot
On 2014-04-15, 5:58 PM, Gijs Kruitbosch wrote:
On 15/04/2014 22:34, K. Gadd wrote:
Arguably if you wait for other vendors to expose VR before you do it,
you'll end up having to implement a sub-standard proprietary API like
you did with Web Audio.
We had an alternative implementation + API (
You can’t beat the competition by fast following the competition. Our
competition are native, closed, proprietary ecosystems. To beat them, the Web
has to be on the bleeding edge of technology. I would love to see VR support in
the Web platform before its available as a builtin capability in
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 10:33:51AM -0400, Mike Hoye wrote:
On 2014-04-15, 10:25 AM, Mike Hoye wrote:
On 2014-04-15, 12:47 AM, Andreas Gal wrote:
Vlad asked a specific question in the first email. Are we comfortable
using another open (albeit not open enough for MPL) license on trunk
while we
We just released rr 1.2 and I think this would be a good time for people to
try to use it for one of the tasks it was designed for: debugging
intermittent test failures.
Consult http://rr-project.org for more information, but the gist is this:
you can use rr to record the execution of Firefox
On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 5:57:13 PM UTC-4, Robert O'Callahan wrote:
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Benoit Jacob jacob.benoi...@gmail.comwrote:
I'm asking because the Web has so far mostly been a common denominator,
conservative platform. For example, WebGL stays at a distance behind the
On 16/04/2014 00:05, Robert O'Callahan wrote:
We just released rr 1.2 and I think this would be a good time for people to
try to use it for one of the tasks it was designed for: debugging
intermittent test failures.
This is awesome! Three questions:
1) Is anyone working on something similar
2014-04-15 18:28 GMT-04:00 Andreas Gal andreas@gmail.com:
You can’t beat the competition by fast following the competition. Our
competition are native, closed, proprietary ecosystems. To beat them, the
Web has to be on the bleeding edge of technology. I would love to see VR
support in
The following is all my opinion, of course:
Arguably many of the wins currently being seen in web games were only possible
because your biggest competitor (Google, w/NaCL) basically
ceded the market by failing to ship promptly and failing to support
their developers. I don't think the asm.js
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.orgwrote:
4) Create a script somewhere called rr-record that does exec ~/rr/bin/rr
record $*
Sorry; this script, of course, needs to exec rr from wherever it was
installed.
Rob
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On Apr 15, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Benoit Jacob jacob.benoi...@gmail.com wrote:
2014-04-15 18:28 GMT-04:00 Andreas Gal andreas@gmail.com:
You can’t beat the competition by fast following the competition. Our
competition are native, closed, proprietary ecosystems. To beat them, the Web
On 2014-04-15, 7:14 PM, Gijs Kruitbosch wrote:
On 16/04/2014 00:05, Robert O'Callahan wrote:
We just released rr 1.2 and I think this would be a good time for
people to
try to use it for one of the tasks it was designed for: debugging
intermittent test failures.
This is awesome! Three
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.orgwrote:
1) Install rr on a Westmere-or-later Linux system (or VM with performance
counters virtualized), build 32-bit Firefox (opt or debug) and verify that
recording Firefox works for you. If it doesn't, please file a
Thank you for putting this together. It is important.
jmaher writes:
This policy will define an escalation path for when a single test case is
identified to be leaking or failing and is causing enough disruption on the
trees.
Exceptions:
1) If this test has landed (or been modified) in
On 2014-04-15, 7:14 PM, Vladimir Vukicevic wrote:
On Tuesday, April 15, 2014 5:57:13 PM UTC-4, Robert O'Callahan wrote:
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 3:14 AM, Benoit Jacob jacob.benoi...@gmail.comwrote:
I'm asking because the Web has so far mostly been a common denominator,
conservative platform.
I know I'm lobbing in from the sidelines on what is essentially a
licensing debate internal to Mozilla...but wouldn't any VR
implementation like Vlad described be best done as an extension of
existing open web standards where possible.
The 6dof data that comes from the Oculus Rift is
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Gijs Kruitbosch
gijskruitbo...@gmail.comwrote:
1) Is anyone working on something similar that works for frontend code
(particularly, chrome JS)? I realize we have a JS debugger, but sometimes
activating the debugger at the wrong time makes the bug go away, and
On 4/15/2014 7:05 PM, Robert O'Callahan wrote:
The steps to get started doing this are roughly as follows:
1) Install rr on a Westmere-or-later Linux system (or VM with performance
counters virtualized), build 32-bit Firefox (opt or debug) and verify that
recording Firefox works for you. If
- Original Message -
Do you have any idea on a timeframe for x86-64 support? I have a 64-bit
Ubuntu install, and historically it's a bit of a pain to get 32-bit
Firefox running. (Alternately, if someone wants to figure out
instructions for getting a 32-bit Firefox built and running on
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 12:24 PM, Ted Mielczarek t...@mielczarek.org wrote:
Do you have any idea on a timeframe for x86-64 support?
It's technically not that hard, but it's a reasonably large project so it's
not going to happen right away.
Rob
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On Apr 15, 2014, at 9:00 PM, Robert O'Callahan rob...@ocallahan.org wrote:
On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 11:14 AM, Vladimir Vukicevic
vladim...@gmail.comwrote:
Note that for purposes of this discussion, VR support is minimal.. some
properties to read to get some info about the output device
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