Re: Bigger hard drives wanted (was Re: More ThinkStation P710 Nvidia tips (was Re: Faster gecko builds with IceCC on Mac and Linux))

[Gregory Szorc]

This thread is good feedback. I think changing the default to a 1TB SSD is
a reasonable request.

Please send any future comments regarding hardware to Sophana (
s...@mozilla.com) to increase the chances that feedback is acted on.

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Julian Seward  wrote:

> On 08/11/17 17:28, Boris Zbarsky wrote:
>
> > The last desktop I was shipped came with a 512 GB drive.  [..]
> >
> > In practice, I routinely run out of disk space and have to delete
> > objdirs and rebuild them the next day, because I have to build
> > something else in a different srcdir...
>
> I totally agree.  I had a machine with a 512GB SSD and wound up in the
> same endless juggle/compress/delete-and-rebuild game.  I got a new machine
> with a 512GB SSD *and* a 1T HDD, and that helps a lot, although the perf
> hit from the HDD especially when linking libxul is terrible.
>
> J
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Re: Bigger hard drives wanted (was Re: More ThinkStation P710 Nvidia tips (was Re: Faster gecko builds with IceCC on Mac and Linux))

[Julian Seward]

On 08/11/17 17:28, Boris Zbarsky wrote:

> The last desktop I was shipped came with a 512 GB drive.  [..]
>
> In practice, I routinely run out of disk space and have to delete
> objdirs and rebuild them the next day, because I have to build
> something else in a different srcdir...

I totally agree.  I had a machine with a 512GB SSD and wound up in the
same endless juggle/compress/delete-and-rebuild game.  I got a new machine
with a 512GB SSD *and* a 1T HDD, and that helps a lot, although the perf
hit from the HDD especially when linking libxul is terrible.

J
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Re: Bigger hard drives wanted (was Re: More ThinkStation P710 Nvidia tips (was Re: Faster gecko builds with IceCC on Mac and Linux))

[Michael de Boer]

I’d like to add the VM multiplier: I’m working mainly on OSX and run a Windows 
and a Linux VM in there with their own checkouts and objdirs. Instead of 
allocating a comfortable size virtual disks, I end up resizing them quite 
frequently to avoid running out of space to save as much as possible for OSX.

Mike.

> On 8 Nov 2017, at 17:28, Boris Zbarsky  wrote:
> 
> On 11/7/17 4:13 PM, Sophana "Soap" Aik wrote:
>> Nothing is worse than hearing IT picked or chose hardware that nobody
>> actually wanted or will use.
> 
> If I could interject with a comment about the hardware we pick...
> 
> The last desktop I was shipped came with a 512 GB drive.  One of our srcdirs 
> is about 5-8GB nowadays (we seem to have mach commands that dump large stuff 
> in the srcdir).
> 
> Each objdir is 9+GB at least on Linux.  Figure 25GB for source + opt + debug.
> 
> For the work I do (e.g. backporting security fixes every so often) I need a 
> release tree, a beta tree, and ESR tree, and at least 3 tip trees.  That's at 
> least 150GB.  If I want to have an effective ccache, that's about 20-30GB 
> (recall that each objdir is 9+GB!).  Call it 175GB.
> 
> If I want to dual-boot or have a VM so I can do both Linux and Windows work, 
> that's 350GB.  Plus the actual operating systems involved.  Plus any data 
> files that might be being generated as part of work, etc.
> 
> In practice, I routinely run out of disk space and have to delete objdirs and 
> rebuild them the next day, because I have to build something else in a 
> different srcdir...
> 
> -Boris
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