RE: Hongkong Post recently issued SHA1 cert that could be used in TLS

2016-08-17 Thread Richard Wang
I checked the certificate that it is a client certificate issued the personal -- PANG Ming Sum: CN = PANG Ming Sum E = todd.p...@autotoll.com.hk OU = AUTOTOLL LIMITED OU = 21506338215100635386 OU = 0001890584 O = Hongkong Post e-Cert (Organisational) C = HK The problem is this certificate do

Re: Hongkong Post recently issued SHA1 cert that could be used in TLS

2016-08-17 Thread Andrew Ayer
On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 11:43:45 -0700 (PDT) cspann...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 10:31:29 AM UTC-7, Andrew Ayer wrote: > > The attacker has to be able to control (or predict) the prefix of > > the data signed by the CA (which in the case of a TBSCertificate, > > includes the

Re: Hongkong Post recently issued SHA1 cert that could be used in TLS

2016-08-17 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:43:45AM -0700, cspann...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 10:31:29 AM UTC-7, Andrew Ayer wrote: > > The attacker has to be able to control (or predict) the prefix of the > > data signed by the CA (which in the case of a TBSCertificate, includes > > the

Re: Hongkong Post recently issued SHA1 cert that could be used in TLS

2016-08-17 Thread cspann187
On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 10:31:29 AM UTC-7, Andrew Ayer wrote: > The attacker has to be able to control (or predict) the prefix of the > data signed by the CA (which in the case of a TBSCertificate, includes > the serial number), as well as the prefix of the forged certificate. > However, t

Re: Hongkong Post recently issued SHA1 cert that could be used in TLS

2016-08-17 Thread Andrew Ayer
On Wed, 17 Aug 2016 19:08:08 +0200 Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 09:55:24AM -0700, Ryan Sleevi wrote: > > > I don't think adding that CA certificate to OneCRL is enough, > > > that would only protect Mozilla users. They should revoke all > > > the relevant certificates. > > > > D

Re: Hongkong Post recently issued SHA1 cert that could be used in TLS

2016-08-17 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 09:55:24AM -0700, Ryan Sleevi wrote: > > I don't think adding that CA certificate to OneCRL is enough, that would > > only protect Mozilla users. They should revoke all the relevant > > certificates. > > Define "relevant"? If a SHA-1 collision has been mounted, Hongkong

Re: Hongkong Post recently issued SHA1 cert that could be used in TLS

2016-08-17 Thread Ryan Sleevi
On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 3:56:55 AM UTC-7, Nick Lamb wrote: > Mozilla's users are threatened by attacks on the Web PKI even if those > attacks don't work on Firefox itself. Most of its users rely on an OS made by > the other trust store operators, and in which almost all TLS-capable > co

Re: Hongkong Post recently issued SHA1 cert that could be used in TLS

2016-08-17 Thread Ryan Sleevi
On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 2:55:50 AM UTC-7, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > I don't see that being asked, it was just pointed out that this is a > violation of the BR requirements, and that the CA certificate might get > added to OneCRL preventing it's use to issue certificates for server > authenti

Re: Hongkong Post recently issued SHA1 cert that could be used in TLS

2016-08-17 Thread Ryan Sleevi
On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 2:53:38 AM UTC-7, ma...@certizen.com wrote: > Through our effort of sunsetting the "Hongkong Post e-Cert CA 1 - 10" for SSL > certificate, majority of SHA-1 SSL certificates will be expired by 31 Dec > 2016, remaining only a few SHA-1 SSL certificates that are val

Re: Hongkong Post recently issued SHA1 cert that could be used in TLS

2016-08-17 Thread Nick Lamb
On Wednesday, 17 August 2016 04:24:27 UTC+1, Ryan Sleevi wrote: > That options pretty much a non-starter for reasons best not speculated about, > but I'm curious: Why or how would that improve the security of Mozilla users? > And if it doesn't meaningfully improve their security, how would it at

Re: Hongkong Post recently issued SHA1 cert that could be used in TLS

2016-08-17 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On 2016-08-17 11:24, Matt Palmer wrote: On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 10:22:13AM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: On 2016-08-17 00:23, Ryan Sleevi wrote: Practically speaking, what steps could be taken? 6) Ask them to immediately stop issuing SHA-1 based certificates that chain back to any of the root cer

Re: Hongkong Post recently issued SHA1 cert that could be used in TLS

2016-08-17 Thread manho
On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 at 3:02:26 PM UTC+8, Matt Palmer wrote: > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:22:36PM -0700, ma...@certizen.com wrote: > > and have been issuing SHA-256 SSL certificates under "Hongkong Post e-Cert > > CA 1- 14" and "Hongkong Post e-Cert CA 1 - 15" respectively > > "respective

Re: Hongkong Post recently issued SHA1 cert that could be used in TLS

2016-08-17 Thread Matt Palmer
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 10:22:13AM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On 2016-08-17 00:23, Ryan Sleevi wrote: > >Practically speaking, what steps could be taken? > > 6) Ask them to immediately stop issuing SHA-1 based certificates that chain > back to any of the root certificates in the Mozilla root stor

Re: Summary of August 2016 Audit Reminder Emails

2016-08-17 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On 2016-08-16 21:42, Kathleen Wilson wrote: Root Certificates: Autoridad de Certificacion Firmaprofesional CIF A62634068 [...] 2) jurisdictionOfIncorporation should be PrintableString coded, but we code it in UTF8: we fail to understand this requirement when UTF8 is more recent and to encod

Re: Hongkong Post recently issued SHA1 cert that could be used in TLS

2016-08-17 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On 2016-08-17 00:23, Ryan Sleevi wrote: Practically speaking, what steps could be taken? 6) Ask them to immediately stop issuing SHA-1 based certificates that chain back to any of the root certificates in the Mozilla root store, and revoke the one they shouldn't have issued. If they fail to

Re: Hongkong Post recently issued SHA1 cert that could be used in TLS

2016-08-17 Thread Matt Palmer
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:22:36PM -0700, ma...@certizen.com wrote: > and have been issuing SHA-256 SSL certificates under "Hongkong Post e-Cert > CA 1- 14" and "Hongkong Post e-Cert CA 1 - 15" respectively "respectively" in what sense? > This certificate is a client certificate issued to a perso