Re: Disclosure requirements for "subsequent certificates in a (name-constrained) certification path"

2016-05-05 Thread Nick Lamb
On Thursday, 5 May 2016 13:22:34 UTC+1, Rob Stradling wrote: > That logic would imply that all of the "Not Trusted by Mozilla" > intermediates should be moved to "Disclosure required!", given that I > can't prove the non-existence of cross-certificates that would cause > these intermediates to

Re: Disclosure requirements for "subsequent certificates in a (name-constrained) certification path"

2016-05-05 Thread Richard Barnes
On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Peter Bowen wrote: > > > On May 5, 2016, at 6:50 AM, Richard Barnes wrote: > > > > On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Peter Bowen wrote: > >> > >> I will disagree. I think the intent is to "prune" the tree > > > > > > Oh, if only it were a tree, and not a DAG. Well

Re: Disclosure requirements for "subsequent certificates in a (name-constrained) certification path"

2016-05-05 Thread Peter Bowen
> On May 5, 2016, at 6:50 AM, Richard Barnes wrote: > > On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Peter Bowen wrote: >> >> I will disagree. I think the intent is to "prune" the tree > > > Oh, if only it were a tree, and not a DAG. Well, *hopefully* acyclic. Nope, not acyclic. Already seen proof of

Re: Disclosure requirements for "subsequent certificates in a (name-constrained) certification path"

2016-05-05 Thread Richard Barnes
On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 8:32 AM, Peter Bowen wrote: > On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 2:57 AM, Rob Stradling > wrote: > > RFC5280 says (emphasis mine)... > > "4.2.1.10. Name Constraints > >The name constraints extension, which MUST be used only in a CA > >certificate, indicates a name space wit

Re: ComSign Root Renewal Request

2016-05-05 Thread Eli Spitzer
On Friday, April 8, 2016 at 12:58:41 AM UTC+3, Kathleen Wilson wrote: > The status of this discussion is that we are waiting for the CA to provide > the following: > > 1) Updated/restructured CPS (both in Hebrew and translated into English). > > 2) Full BR Audit statement. > > 3) An explanation

Re: Disclosure requirements for "subsequent certificates in a (name-constrained) certification path"

2016-05-05 Thread Peter Bowen
On Thu, May 5, 2016 at 2:57 AM, Rob Stradling wrote: > RFC5280 says (emphasis mine)... > "4.2.1.10. Name Constraints >The name constraints extension, which MUST be used only in a CA >certificate, indicates a name space within which all subject names in >*subsequent certificates in a

Re: Disclosure requirements for "subsequent certificates in a (name-constrained) certification path"

2016-05-05 Thread Rob Stradling
On 05/05/16 12:50, Kurt Roeckx wrote: Since Intermediate 2 is effectively technically constrained, you might imagine that it should be exempt from the disclosure requirement. However, the "certificate MUST include...extension" language in both the Mozilla CA Policy and the BRs seems to clearly s

Re: Disclosure requirements for "subsequent certificates in a (name-constrained) certification path"

2016-05-05 Thread Rob Stradling
On 05/05/16 10:57, Rob Stradling wrote: Consider a certificate chain of this form: Root Intermediate 1 (contains Name Constraints / EKU) Intermediate 2 (does not contain Name Constraints / EKU) End-entity Since Intermediate 2 is effectively technically constrained, you mig

Re: Disclosure requirements for "subsequent certificates in a (name-constrained) certification path"

2016-05-05 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, May 05, 2016 at 10:57:39AM +0100, Rob Stradling wrote: > RFC5280 says (emphasis mine)... > "4.2.1.10. Name Constraints >The name constraints extension, which MUST be used only in a CA >certificate, indicates a name space within which all subject names in >*subsequent certific

Re: Undisclosed CA certificates

2016-05-05 Thread Rob Stradling
On 05/05/16 11:10, Rob Stradling wrote: On 05/05/16 10:32, Nick Lamb wrote: On Wednesday, 4 May 2016 21:34:28 UTC+1, Rob Stradling wrote: Thanks Nick. All suggestions welcome. :-) Not so much a suggestion this time as a potential bug report Potential bug reports are also very welcome. :

Re: Undisclosed CA certificates

2016-05-05 Thread Rob Stradling
On 05/05/16 10:32, Nick Lamb wrote: On Wednesday, 4 May 2016 21:34:28 UTC+1, Rob Stradling wrote: Thanks Nick. All suggestions welcome. :-) Not so much a suggestion this time as a potential bug report Potential bug reports are also very welcome. :-) "Let's Encrypt Authority X2" appears

Disclosure requirements for "subsequent certificates in a (name-constrained) certification path"

2016-05-05 Thread Rob Stradling
RFC5280 says (emphasis mine)... "4.2.1.10. Name Constraints The name constraints extension, which MUST be used only in a CA certificate, indicates a name space within which all subject names in *subsequent certificates in a certification path* MUST be located." The Mozilla CA Policy s

Re: Undisclosed CA certificates

2016-05-05 Thread Nick Lamb
On Wednesday, 4 May 2016 21:34:28 UTC+1, Rob Stradling wrote: > Thanks Nick. All suggestions welcome. :-) Not so much a suggestion this time as a potential bug report "Let's Encrypt Authority X2" appears twice in the table, both times it is listed with the DST Root CA X3 issuer. However it se

Re: Undisclosed CA certificates

2016-05-05 Thread Rob Stradling
On 04/05/16 23:05, Rob Stradling wrote: On 04/05/16 22:42, Richard Barnes wrote: On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Dimitris Zacharopoulos wrote: https://wiki.mozilla.org/CA:SalesforceCommunity#Which_intermediate_certificate_data_should_CAs_add_to_Salesforce.3F The above link clarifies th