Re: Policy 2.5 Proposal: Clarify requirement for multi-factor auth

2017-06-06 Thread Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy
On 02/06/17 12:29, Ryan Sleevi wrote: > 2) "performing RA or DTP functions" I'll go with that :-) Gerv ___ dev-security-policy mailing list dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-security-policy

Re: Policy 2.5 Proposal: Clarify requirement for multi-factor auth

2017-06-02 Thread Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy
I liked your previous version better, if it had to be updated. It would sound like you're suggesting "Enterprise RA" accounts should not use multi-factor authentication, but given that they're part of the scope of audited activities (that the CA must directly oversee), the use of multi-factor

Re: Policy 2.5 Proposal: Clarify requirement for multi-factor auth

2017-06-02 Thread Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy
On 01/06/17 13:59, Gervase Markham wrote: > Perhaps this leads to the solution? We say: > > "enforce multi-factor authentication for all accounts capable of causing > certificate issuance or performing RA or DTP functions as defined by the > Baseline Requirements" or "enforce multi-factor

Re: Policy 2.5 Proposal: Clarify requirement for multi-factor auth

2017-06-01 Thread Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy
On 01/06/17 14:22, Doug Beattie wrote: > If this is the case, then in what cases do you see 2-factor auth being a > requirement where it was not before? Well, Mozilla policy didn't require that all RA accounts had multi-factor, only those directly capable of causing certificate issuance. Maybe

RE: Policy 2.5 Proposal: Clarify requirement for multi-factor auth

2017-06-01 Thread Doug Beattie via dev-security-policy
From: Ryan Sleevi [mailto:r...@sleevi.com] Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 8:46 AM To: Gervase Markham <g...@mozilla.org> Cc: Doug Beattie <doug.beat...@globalsign.com>; mozilla-dev-security-policy <mozilla-dev-security-pol...@lists.mozilla.org> Subject: Re: Policy 2.5

Re: Policy 2.5 Proposal: Clarify requirement for multi-factor auth

2017-06-01 Thread Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy
On 01/06/17 13:45, Ryan Sleevi wrote: > The reason why I don't think it's a valid reasoning is that if we accept > that this provision in the policy could be read to cover such emails, then > we're implicitly agreeing that the act of clicking that email is performing > a validation function

Re: Policy 2.5 Proposal: Clarify requirement for multi-factor auth

2017-06-01 Thread Ryan Sleevi via dev-security-policy
On Thu, Jun 1, 2017 at 6:52 AM, Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy < dev-security-policy@lists.mozilla.org> wrote: > Hi Doug, > > On 01/06/17 10:54, Doug Beattie wrote: > > Can you give some examples of validation functions that need to be > enforced by multifactor authentication? There are

Re: Policy 2.5 Proposal: Clarify requirement for multi-factor auth

2017-06-01 Thread Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy
Hi Doug, On 01/06/17 10:54, Doug Beattie wrote: > Can you give some examples of validation functions that need to be enforced > by multifactor authentication? There are some that I don't think can be done > using multi-factor authentication, such as domain validation via email (the > link to

RE: Policy 2.5 Proposal: Clarify requirement for multi-factor auth

2017-06-01 Thread Doug Beattie via dev-security-policy
@lists.mozilla.org > Subject: Re: Policy 2.5 Proposal: Clarify requirement for multi-factor auth > > > > "enforce multi-factor authentication for all accounts capable of > > directly causing certificate issuance" > > > > to > > > > "enforce m

Re: Policy 2.5 Proposal: Clarify requirement for multi-factor auth

2017-05-31 Thread Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy
On 19/05/17 13:18, Gervase Markham wrote: > Ryan Sleevi suggested a wording clarification/policy extension to the > multi-factor auth requirement, from: > > "enforce multi-factor authentication for all accounts capable of > directly causing certificate issuance" > > to > > "enforce multi-factor

Re: Policy 2.5 Proposal: Clarify requirement for multi-factor auth

2017-05-22 Thread Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy
On 19/05/17 15:52, Carl Mehner wrote: > Should we specify somewhere that multi-factor auth encompasses two > _different_ factors and not simply multiple authenticators? I appreciate your desire to cover all the angles, but I think the standard definition of the term encompasses this. I think

Re: Policy 2.5 Proposal: Clarify requirement for multi-factor auth

2017-05-19 Thread Carl Mehner via dev-security-policy
On Friday, May 19, 2017 at 7:19:27 AM UTC-5, Gervase Markham wrote: > "enforce multi-factor authentication for all accounts capable of causing > certificate issuance or performing validation functions" Should we specify somewhere that multi-factor auth encompasses two _different_ factors and not

Re: Policy 2.5 Proposal: Clarify requirement for multi-factor auth

2017-05-19 Thread Gervase Markham via dev-security-policy
On 19/05/17 14:26, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > I'm wondering why something like this should be in the Mozilla policy > and not be part of something else that they get audited for. Section 6.5.1 of the BRs states: "The CA SHALL enforce multi‐factor authentication for all accounts capable of directly

Re: Policy 2.5 Proposal: Clarify requirement for multi-factor auth

2017-05-19 Thread Kurt Roeckx via dev-security-policy
On 2017-05-19 14:18, Gervase Markham wrote: Ryan Sleevi suggested a wording clarification/policy extension to the multi-factor auth requirement, from: "enforce multi-factor authentication for all accounts capable of directly causing certificate issuance" to "enforce multi-factor