RE: JIRA - PLEASE READ

2017-06-30 Thread Giles Sirett
ul.an...@shapeblue.com] Sent: 30 June 2017 16:34 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: RE: JIRA - PLEASE READ Whether we use 'GitHub Issues' or 'Jira Issues' doesn't change the basic point, which is bug fixes and indeed features need to be tracked. If someone wants to know what versions a f

RE: JIRA - PLEASE READ

2017-06-30 Thread Paul Angus
16:07 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: JIRA - PLEASE READ Yes, we would be adopting github issues for that then. If you want to handle those in jira we could, but i personally dont see any value in a jira ticket for an actual PR. On Jun 30, 2017 10:26 AM, "Ron Wheeler&qu

Re: JIRA - PLEASE READ

2017-06-30 Thread Will Stevens
of text... >> >> On Jun 30, 2017 6:52 AM, "Alex Hitchins" <a...@alexhitchins.com> wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >> I've created a DISCUSS thread to... discuss this subject separately from >> the original Jira issue. >> >> Sorry Paul for hija

Re: JIRA - PLEASE READ

2017-06-30 Thread Ron Wheeler
fael Weingärtner [mailto:rafaelweingart...@gmail.com] Sent: 29 June 2017 20:41 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: JIRA - PLEASE READ That is what I am saying. Apache can (and does) handle donations, and there have been discussions about donations that can be directed to projects at the donati

RE: JIRA - PLEASE READ

2017-06-30 Thread Will Stevens
art...@gmail.com] Sent: 29 June 2017 20:41 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: JIRA - PLEASE READ That is what I am saying. Apache can (and does) handle donations, and there have been discussions about donations that can be directed to projects at the donation time (someone that knows about

RE: JIRA - PLEASE READ

2017-06-30 Thread Alex Hitchins
- From: Rafael Weingärtner [mailto:rafaelweingart...@gmail.com] Sent: 29 June 2017 20:41 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: JIRA - PLEASE READ That is what I am saying. Apache can (and does) handle donations, and there have been discussions about donations that can be directed

RE: JIRA - PLEASE READ

2017-06-30 Thread Giles Sirett
@shapeblue -Original Message- From: Alex Hitchins [mailto:a...@alexhitchins.com] Sent: 29 June 2017 18:49 To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: JIRA - PLEASE READ If it isn't being treated as a product it will be very impossible to market it as enterprise ready. I know w

Re: JIRA - PLEASE READ

2017-06-29 Thread Rafael Weingärtner
gt; Marty Godsey > Principal Engineer > nSource Solutions, LLC > > -Original Message- > From: Rafael Weingärtner [mailto:rafaelweingart...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 3:28 PM > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: Re: JIRA - PLEASE READ > &g

RE: JIRA - PLEASE READ

2017-06-29 Thread Marty Godsey
elweingart...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 3:28 PM To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: JIRA - PLEASE READ ACS is an Apache project, not a foundation per se; donation goes to Apache. I know that there is some discussion/work to create a way for donating things (not just money) to projects

Re: JIRA - PLEASE READ

2017-06-29 Thread Rafael Weingärtner
ed? > > Regards, > Marty Godsey > Principal Engineer > nSource Solutions, LLC > > -Original Message- > From: Alex Hitchins [mailto:a...@alexhitchins.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 1:49 PM > To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org > Subject: Re: JIRA - PLEASE READ > >

RE: JIRA - PLEASE READ

2017-06-29 Thread Marty Godsey
sage- From: Alex Hitchins [mailto:a...@alexhitchins.com] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2017 1:49 PM To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: JIRA - PLEASE READ If it isn't being treated as a product it will be very impossible to market it as enterprise ready. I know we all know this. Similar

Re: JIRA - PLEASE READ

2017-06-29 Thread Ron Wheeler
ommunication between developers and to everyone else. Kind regards, Paul Angus paul.an...@shapeblue.com www.shapeblue.com 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK @shapeblue -Original Message- From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] Sent: 29 June 2017 10:14 T

Re: JIRA - PLEASE READ

2017-06-29 Thread Alex Hitchins
t;>>> I think duplicating data between jira and the PR is kind of pointless. I >>>> feel like the github PRs and the cide going in should be the source of >>>> truth, not a random third party tool. >>>> >>>> For the 4.9 release notes, i built a

Re: JIRA - PLEASE READ

2017-06-29 Thread Ron Wheeler
From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] Sent: 29 June 2017 10:14 To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> Subject: Re: JIRA - PLEASE READ On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 11:06 AM, Paul Angus <paul.an...@shapeblue.com> wrote: + Release notes will be impossible to create without a pro

RE: JIRA - PLEASE READ

2017-06-29 Thread Marty Godsey
, June 29, 2017 9:42 AM To: Ron Wheeler <rwhee...@artifact-software.com>; dev@cloudstack.apache.org Subject: Re: JIRA - PLEASE READ I personally don't know how Jira solves any of this, but assuming it does, fine... The bigger problem which you have raised is that CloudStack has zero

Re: JIRA - PLEASE READ

2017-06-29 Thread Will Stevens
tops users/operators from having any chance of understanding what >> CloudStack does and how it does it. >> Code for code's sake is no use to anyone. >> Jira is about communication between developers and to everyone else. >> >> >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Pau

Re: JIRA - PLEASE READ

2017-06-29 Thread Ron Wheeler
@shapeblue -Original Message- From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] Sent: 29 June 2017 10:14 To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> Subject: Re: JIRA - PLEASE READ On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 11:06 AM, Paul Angus <paul.an...@shapeblue.com> wrote: + Release notes wi

Re: JIRA - PLEASE READ

2017-06-29 Thread Will Stevens
; > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] > > Sent: 29 June 2017 10:14 > > To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> > > Subject: Re: JIRA - PLEASE READ > > > >> On Thu, Jun 29, 2

RE: JIRA - PLEASE READ

2017-06-29 Thread Will Stevens
m: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] Sent: 29 June 2017 10:14 To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> Subject: Re: JIRA - PLEASE READ On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 11:06 AM, Paul Angus <paul.an...@shapeblue.com> wrote: > + Release notes will be impossible to create without a pr

Re: JIRA - PLEASE READ

2017-06-29 Thread Rene Moser
Hi Paul On 06/29/2017 11:06 AM, Paul Angus wrote: > Hi, Mr Grumpy here! > > I was looking the commits and I'm seeing commits going in with no Jira Issue > assigned. > My understanding is that there must be a Jira ticket for EVERY > fix/enhancement/feature, so that we have a way to search and

Re: JIRA - PLEASE READ

2017-06-29 Thread Alex Hitchins
dos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK > @shapeblue > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] > Sent: 29 June 2017 10:14 > To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> > Subject: Re: JIRA - PLEASE READ > >>

RE: JIRA - PLEASE READ

2017-06-29 Thread Paul Angus
Angus paul.an...@shapeblue.com  www.shapeblue.com 53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK @shapeblue -Original Message- From: Daan Hoogland [mailto:daan.hoogl...@gmail.com] Sent: 29 June 2017 10:14 To: dev <dev@cloudstack.apache.org> Subject: Re: JIRA - PLEAS

Re: JIRA - PLEASE READ

2017-06-29 Thread Daan Hoogland
On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 11:06 AM, Paul Angus wrote: > + Release notes will be impossible to create without a proper Jira history. > And no one will know what has gone into CloudStack. No they are not mr Grumpy. they should be base on the code anyway, hence on git, not