Re: Who owns events.apache.org?
On 04/12/2018 03:01 AM, Isabel Drost-Fromm wrote: On 10/04/18 14:57, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: I think we are closer. - events.apache.org (community event calendar that will also include entries for Apache official events linked to apachecon_ - apachecon.com (apachecon, roadshows and official Apache events) I believe we need a better definition of what we count as "official Apache events". One I've heart before that made some sense would be "organised through planners@ and featuring Apache exclusive content". Please refine the definition to make it a better fit. I consider an event official if one of the following: * it is put on with the blessing, and participation, of a project PMC. (Eg MesosCon) * It is put on by the VP Events, or someone delegated by her/him. (Eg Apache EU Roadshow) Approving a third-party event that does not have the *participation* of a PMC makes it approved, but not official. Things like meetups which are put on by a local user community are community events. I suppose a particular meetup might be part of category 1 above, but with dozens of them a week (sometimes dozens a day!) it's pretty hard to keep up with them. But if a particular PMC wishes to promote one of them, and treat it like an official event, more power to them. This is something that is wholely delegated to those PMCs, as discussed and decided in the dim and distant past, and probably not documented anywhere. Which ... speaking of the various events websites, we also need a page somewhere that documents these policies/definitions for posterity. That has been on my ToDo list for a very, very long time. Indeed, in my todo.txt, aspects of this task are currently items 4, 5, 9, 11, and 12. Alas, smaller numbers indicate older items, not higher priority. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: Who owns events.apache.org?
Isabel Drost-Fromm wrote on 4/12/18 3:01 AM: > On 10/04/18 14:57, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: >> I think we are closer. >> >> - events.apache.org (community event calendar that will also include >> entries for Apache official events linked to apachecon_ >> - apachecon.com (apachecon, roadshows and official Apache events) > > I believe we need a better definition of what we count as "official > Apache events". One I've heart before that made some sense would be > "organised through planners@ and featuring Apache exclusive content". In my past life, I would have said "official Apache events" are only the events that: - Are branded as Apache events - "ApacheCon*" or anything with "Apache" in the name. Otherwise, how does the world know they're official? - Are organized by planners@ or by an Apache PMC or otherwise in a situation where VP Conferences or a PMC has a direct and official say in defining the conference content. As opposed to a commercial company that's often competing with our projects. The issue is - who decides? If *we* don't have a clear definition and stamp of approval, we've seen in the past there are vendor-run events that regularly hijack our project's trademarks for their own benefit - and sometimes to our project's detriment. Events should only show on our calendar with the magic "official Apache Event" stamp if it uses our branding directly. But I also agree that we should make it much easier to list the many other events in the same calendar, both at the ASF level as well as at a project level. > > Please refine the definition to make it a better fit. -- - Shane Director & Member The Apache Software Foundation - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: Who owns events.apache.org?
On Thu, Apr 12, 2018 at 9:03 AM, Isabel Drost-Fromm wrote: > ...+1 to consolidation,... Do we actually need more than an "ASF Community Calendar" which lists anything that this PMC finds good to have there? It can be as simple as https://s.apache.org/ac8g but with several shared calendars (to get different colors for ApacheCon, PMC led events, other tech conferences, board meetings etc) grouped as a single embeddable calendar, with Google Calendar does. And then people can ask here to have their events included, and we give write access to our PMC members. We could then retire the http://events.apache.org/ calendar, which IMO doesn't bring more value above such a shared set of calendars. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: Who owns events.apache.org?
On 09/04/18 11:12, Daniel Gruno wrote: On 04/09/2018 11:09 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: There needs to be some consolidation, definitely. +1 to consolidation, removal of stale content, making it dead-easy for people to make changes to these sites (and making it easy to figure out how they are automatically generated if so). Isabel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: Who owns events.apache.org?
On 10/04/18 14:57, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: I think we are closer. - events.apache.org (community event calendar that will also include entries for Apache official events linked to apachecon_ - apachecon.com (apachecon, roadshows and official Apache events) I believe we need a better definition of what we count as "official Apache events". One I've heart before that made some sense would be "organised through planners@ and featuring Apache exclusive content". Please refine the definition to make it a better fit. Isabel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: Who owns events.apache.org?
I think we are closer. - events.apache.org (community event calendar that will also include entries for Apache official events linked to apachecon_ - apachecon.com (apachecon, roadshows and official Apache events) -- Kevin A. McGrail Asst. Treasurer & VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 8:08 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > On 04/10/2018 02:05 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > >> Roger that. If it's for community events, that's +1. It sounded like the >> plan was to move the roadshows off of the Apachecon.com site. >> > > What my proposal was..if you remove the "where does roadshow fit in" bit > of the equation, to have *one* place for projects to go and look at: > - what events do we have (confs, meetups, retreats whatever) > - how do we promote them= > . how do we get engaged in this? > > ...and then the conferences etc would be at apachecon.com > sort of like how we have foo.org for a user facing site for some > projects, and foo.apache.org for a developer-facing side. > > > So, two places: > - events.apache.org (the developer/community side of it) > - apachecon.com (apachecon, roadshow?, the "customer" facing side) > > With regards, > Daniel > > >> -- >> Kevin A. McGrail >> Asst. Treasurer & VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation >> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 >> >> On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 6:37 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: >> >> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018, 11:32 Kevin A. McGrail wrote: >>> >>> Hi Daniel, I am -1 to maintain multiple places for Apache Events. I think events.apache.org, www.apache.org/foundation/events, etc. should all redirect to apachecon.com and all energies and efforts should be spent >>> on >>> maintaining that site as the source of truth. To my knowledge all the other places are grossly out of date and apachecon.com is the only one with current data. >>> A.o/events is maintained - at least the meetups data is refreshed >>> multiple >>> times per day. And the google calendar was maintained up until a month or >>> two ago. >>> >>> We need two things - official events (Apachecon) and community events. >>> >>> > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >
Re: Who owns events.apache.org?
On 04/10/2018 02:05 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Roger that. If it's for community events, that's +1. It sounded like the plan was to move the roadshows off of the Apachecon.com site. What my proposal was..if you remove the "where does roadshow fit in" bit of the equation, to have *one* place for projects to go and look at: - what events do we have (confs, meetups, retreats whatever) - how do we promote them= . how do we get engaged in this? ...and then the conferences etc would be at apachecon.com sort of like how we have foo.org for a user facing site for some projects, and foo.apache.org for a developer-facing side. So, two places: - events.apache.org (the developer/community side of it) - apachecon.com (apachecon, roadshow?, the "customer" facing side) With regards, Daniel -- Kevin A. McGrail Asst. Treasurer & VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 6:37 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: On Mon, Apr 9, 2018, 11:32 Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Hi Daniel, I am -1 to maintain multiple places for Apache Events. I think events.apache.org, www.apache.org/foundation/events, etc. should all redirect to apachecon.com and all energies and efforts should be spent on maintaining that site as the source of truth. To my knowledge all the other places are grossly out of date and apachecon.com is the only one with current data. A.o/events is maintained - at least the meetups data is refreshed multiple times per day. And the google calendar was maintained up until a month or two ago. We need two things - official events (Apachecon) and community events. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: Who owns events.apache.org?
Roger that. If it's for community events, that's +1. It sounded like the plan was to move the roadshows off of the Apachecon.com site. -- Kevin A. McGrail Asst. Treasurer & VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 6:37 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018, 11:32 Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > > > Hi Daniel, > > > > I am -1 to maintain multiple places for Apache Events. I think > > events.apache.org, www.apache.org/foundation/events, etc. should all > > redirect to apachecon.com and all energies and efforts should be spent > on > > maintaining that site as the source of truth. > > > > To my knowledge all the other places are grossly out of date and > > apachecon.com is the only one with current data. > > > > A.o/events is maintained - at least the meetups data is refreshed multiple > times per day. And the google calendar was maintained up until a month or > two ago. > > We need two things - official events (Apachecon) and community events. > > > > > > Does that clarify things? Is there some initiative that I'm unaware of > > that this is dousing with cold water? > > > > Regards, > > KAM > > > > -- > > Kevin A. McGrail > > Asst. Treasurer & VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation > > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 > > > > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:18 AM, Daniel Gruno > > wrote: > > > > > On 04/09/2018 03:54 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > > > > > >> Sorry, but I'm a -1. I view the roadshows as mini ApacheCons. I'm > also > > >> trying to build sponsors who look at the whole year of events rather > > than > > >> just AC. Especially where AC EU is in fact a roadshow. > > >> > > > > > > Are you saying "can the whole idea" or are you suggesting changes to > > where > > > the roadshow website lives? Throwing a -1 into it seems a bit much. > > > > > > > > > > > >> I'd likely point www.a.o/events to events.apache.org and point that > to > > >> apachecon.com. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Kevin A. McGrail > > >> Asst. Treasurer & VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation > > >> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project > > >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 > > >> > > >> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 7:07 AM, Shane Curcuru > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> Daniel Gruno wrote on 4/9/18 5:12 AM: > > >>> > > On 04/09/2018 11:09 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > > > >>> ...snip... > > >>> > > There needs to be some consolidation, definitely. > > We currently use: > > - apachecon.com > > - events.apache.org > > - www.a.o/events/ > > > > >>> > > >>> Forgot some (my recommendations) > > >>> > > >>>https://www.apache.org/foundation/events (delete & redirect) > > >>>https://community.apache.org/calendars/ (???) > > >>>https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ (edit template to have big > > pointer > > >>> to new homepage, since this is almost all stale) > > >>> > > >>> My proposal would be: > > > > 1) move www.a.o/events to events.apache.org, make it an easy to > > modify > > git web site > > 2) have apachecon.com be about apachecon only > > 3) Make events.apache.org the landing page we currently have on > > apachecon.com that has both ACNA, EU Roadshow etc. > > > > >>> > > >>> Big +1, with an addendum that events.a.o would have a large footer > that > > >>> also pointed to the community calendar/meetups/other pages. > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> > > >>> - Shane > > >>>Director & Member > > >>>The Apache Software Foundation > > >>> > > >>> > - > > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > > > > > - > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > > > > > > > >
Re: Who owns events.apache.org?
On Mon, Apr 9, 2018, 11:32 Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > Hi Daniel, > > I am -1 to maintain multiple places for Apache Events. I think > events.apache.org, www.apache.org/foundation/events, etc. should all > redirect to apachecon.com and all energies and efforts should be spent on > maintaining that site as the source of truth. > > To my knowledge all the other places are grossly out of date and > apachecon.com is the only one with current data. > A.o/events is maintained - at least the meetups data is refreshed multiple times per day. And the google calendar was maintained up until a month or two ago. We need two things - official events (Apachecon) and community events. > Does that clarify things? Is there some initiative that I'm unaware of > that this is dousing with cold water? > > Regards, > KAM > > -- > Kevin A. McGrail > Asst. Treasurer & VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation > Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project > https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 > > On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:18 AM, Daniel Gruno > wrote: > > > On 04/09/2018 03:54 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > > > >> Sorry, but I'm a -1. I view the roadshows as mini ApacheCons. I'm also > >> trying to build sponsors who look at the whole year of events rather > than > >> just AC. Especially where AC EU is in fact a roadshow. > >> > > > > Are you saying "can the whole idea" or are you suggesting changes to > where > > the roadshow website lives? Throwing a -1 into it seems a bit much. > > > > > > > >> I'd likely point www.a.o/events to events.apache.org and point that to > >> apachecon.com. > >> > >> -- > >> Kevin A. McGrail > >> Asst. Treasurer & VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation > >> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project > >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 > >> > >> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 7:07 AM, Shane Curcuru > >> wrote: > >> > >> Daniel Gruno wrote on 4/9/18 5:12 AM: > >>> > On 04/09/2018 11:09 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > >>> ...snip... > >>> > There needs to be some consolidation, definitely. > We currently use: > - apachecon.com > - events.apache.org > - www.a.o/events/ > > >>> > >>> Forgot some (my recommendations) > >>> > >>>https://www.apache.org/foundation/events (delete & redirect) > >>>https://community.apache.org/calendars/ (???) > >>>https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ (edit template to have big > pointer > >>> to new homepage, since this is almost all stale) > >>> > >>> My proposal would be: > > 1) move www.a.o/events to events.apache.org, make it an easy to > modify > git web site > 2) have apachecon.com be about apachecon only > 3) Make events.apache.org the landing page we currently have on > apachecon.com that has both ACNA, EU Roadshow etc. > > >>> > >>> Big +1, with an addendum that events.a.o would have a large footer that > >>> also pointed to the community calendar/meetups/other pages. > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> - Shane > >>>Director & Member > >>>The Apache Software Foundation > >>> > >>> - > >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > > > > - > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > > > >
Re: Who owns events.apache.org?
Hi Daniel, so I think it's just a POV difference. I'm +1 to consolidating and repointing things to ApacheCon for all the 2018 and 2019 planned events. My -1 was related to this point: 2) have apachecon.com be about apachecon only. I view the Apache Roadshows as a well named "mini" apachecon and that they belong on the apachecon.com. Rich might disagree though so I would bow to him but I think he weighed in already with his preferred url. regards, KAM -- Kevin A. McGrail Asst. Treasurer & VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:38 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > On 04/09/2018 05:32 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > >> Hi Daniel, >> >> I am -1 to maintain multiple places for Apache Events. I think >> events.apache.org, www.apache.org/foundation/events, etc. should all >> redirect to apachecon.com and all energies and efforts should be spent on >> maintaining that site as the source of truth. >> >> To my knowledge all the other places are grossly out of date and >> apachecon.com is the only one with current data. >> > > They are, and lots of people want to consolidate things, hence the > proposal. A -1 is generally a conservative "don't/revert", which would > leave those things as is ;-). It's fine to be of the opinion that it should > all be apachecon (and we'll agree to politely disagree there). In the end, > that's up to VP Conferences I suppose. I wouldn't be strongly opposed to > that...I just wanna be rid of waaay too many sources of truth for events. > I'll copy this discussion to where it belongs. > > > >> Does that clarify things? Is there some initiative that I'm unaware of >> that this is dousing with cold water? >> >> Regards, >> KAM >> >> -- >> Kevin A. McGrail >> Asst. Treasurer & VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation >> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 >> >> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:18 AM, Daniel Gruno >> wrote: >> >> On 04/09/2018 03:54 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: >>> >>> Sorry, but I'm a -1. I view the roadshows as mini ApacheCons. I'm also trying to build sponsors who look at the whole year of events rather than just AC. Especially where AC EU is in fact a roadshow. >>> Are you saying "can the whole idea" or are you suggesting changes to >>> where >>> the roadshow website lives? Throwing a -1 into it seems a bit much. >>> >>> >>> >>> I'd likely point www.a.o/events to events.apache.org and point that to apachecon.com. -- Kevin A. McGrail Asst. Treasurer & VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 7:07 AM, Shane Curcuru wrote: Daniel Gruno wrote on 4/9/18 5:12 AM: > > On 04/09/2018 11:09 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: >> >> ...snip... > > There needs to be some consolidation, definitely. >> We currently use: >> - apachecon.com >> - events.apache.org >> - www.a.o/events/ >> >> > Forgot some (my recommendations) > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/events (delete & redirect) > https://community.apache.org/calendars/ (???) > https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ (edit template to have big > pointer > to new homepage, since this is almost all stale) > > My proposal would be: > >> >> 1) move www.a.o/events to events.apache.org, make it an easy to >> modify >> git web site >> 2) have apachecon.com be about apachecon only >> 3) Make events.apache.org the landing page we currently have on >> apachecon.com that has both ACNA, EU Roadshow etc. >> >> > Big +1, with an addendum that events.a.o would have a large footer that > also pointed to the community calendar/meetups/other pages. > > -- > > - Shane > Director & Member > The Apache Software Foundation > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > > > > >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org >>> >>> >>> >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >
Re: Who owns events.apache.org?
On 04/09/2018 05:32 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Hi Daniel, I am -1 to maintain multiple places for Apache Events. I think events.apache.org, www.apache.org/foundation/events, etc. should all redirect to apachecon.com and all energies and efforts should be spent on maintaining that site as the source of truth. To my knowledge all the other places are grossly out of date and apachecon.com is the only one with current data. They are, and lots of people want to consolidate things, hence the proposal. A -1 is generally a conservative "don't/revert", which would leave those things as is ;-). It's fine to be of the opinion that it should all be apachecon (and we'll agree to politely disagree there). In the end, that's up to VP Conferences I suppose. I wouldn't be strongly opposed to that...I just wanna be rid of waaay too many sources of truth for events. I'll copy this discussion to where it belongs. Does that clarify things? Is there some initiative that I'm unaware of that this is dousing with cold water? Regards, KAM -- Kevin A. McGrail Asst. Treasurer & VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:18 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: On 04/09/2018 03:54 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Sorry, but I'm a -1. I view the roadshows as mini ApacheCons. I'm also trying to build sponsors who look at the whole year of events rather than just AC. Especially where AC EU is in fact a roadshow. Are you saying "can the whole idea" or are you suggesting changes to where the roadshow website lives? Throwing a -1 into it seems a bit much. I'd likely point www.a.o/events to events.apache.org and point that to apachecon.com. -- Kevin A. McGrail Asst. Treasurer & VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 7:07 AM, Shane Curcuru wrote: Daniel Gruno wrote on 4/9/18 5:12 AM: On 04/09/2018 11:09 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: ...snip... There needs to be some consolidation, definitely. We currently use: - apachecon.com - events.apache.org - www.a.o/events/ Forgot some (my recommendations) https://www.apache.org/foundation/events (delete & redirect) https://community.apache.org/calendars/ (???) https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ (edit template to have big pointer to new homepage, since this is almost all stale) My proposal would be: 1) move www.a.o/events to events.apache.org, make it an easy to modify git web site 2) have apachecon.com be about apachecon only 3) Make events.apache.org the landing page we currently have on apachecon.com that has both ACNA, EU Roadshow etc. Big +1, with an addendum that events.a.o would have a large footer that also pointed to the community calendar/meetups/other pages. -- - Shane Director & Member The Apache Software Foundation - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: Who owns events.apache.org?
Hi Daniel, I am -1 to maintain multiple places for Apache Events. I think events.apache.org, www.apache.org/foundation/events, etc. should all redirect to apachecon.com and all energies and efforts should be spent on maintaining that site as the source of truth. To my knowledge all the other places are grossly out of date and apachecon.com is the only one with current data. Does that clarify things? Is there some initiative that I'm unaware of that this is dousing with cold water? Regards, KAM -- Kevin A. McGrail Asst. Treasurer & VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 11:18 AM, Daniel Gruno wrote: > On 04/09/2018 03:54 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: > >> Sorry, but I'm a -1. I view the roadshows as mini ApacheCons. I'm also >> trying to build sponsors who look at the whole year of events rather than >> just AC. Especially where AC EU is in fact a roadshow. >> > > Are you saying "can the whole idea" or are you suggesting changes to where > the roadshow website lives? Throwing a -1 into it seems a bit much. > > > >> I'd likely point www.a.o/events to events.apache.org and point that to >> apachecon.com. >> >> -- >> Kevin A. McGrail >> Asst. Treasurer & VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation >> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project >> https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 >> >> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 7:07 AM, Shane Curcuru >> wrote: >> >> Daniel Gruno wrote on 4/9/18 5:12 AM: >>> On 04/09/2018 11:09 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: >>> ...snip... >>> There needs to be some consolidation, definitely. We currently use: - apachecon.com - events.apache.org - www.a.o/events/ >>> >>> Forgot some (my recommendations) >>> >>>https://www.apache.org/foundation/events (delete & redirect) >>>https://community.apache.org/calendars/ (???) >>>https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ (edit template to have big pointer >>> to new homepage, since this is almost all stale) >>> >>> My proposal would be: 1) move www.a.o/events to events.apache.org, make it an easy to modify git web site 2) have apachecon.com be about apachecon only 3) Make events.apache.org the landing page we currently have on apachecon.com that has both ACNA, EU Roadshow etc. >>> >>> Big +1, with an addendum that events.a.o would have a large footer that >>> also pointed to the community calendar/meetups/other pages. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> - Shane >>>Director & Member >>>The Apache Software Foundation >>> >>> - >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org >>> >>> >>> >> > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >
Re: Who owns events.apache.org?
On 04/09/2018 03:54 PM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Sorry, but I'm a -1. I view the roadshows as mini ApacheCons. I'm also trying to build sponsors who look at the whole year of events rather than just AC. Especially where AC EU is in fact a roadshow. Are you saying "can the whole idea" or are you suggesting changes to where the roadshow website lives? Throwing a -1 into it seems a bit much. I'd likely point www.a.o/events to events.apache.org and point that to apachecon.com. -- Kevin A. McGrail Asst. Treasurer & VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 7:07 AM, Shane Curcuru wrote: Daniel Gruno wrote on 4/9/18 5:12 AM: On 04/09/2018 11:09 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: ...snip... There needs to be some consolidation, definitely. We currently use: - apachecon.com - events.apache.org - www.a.o/events/ Forgot some (my recommendations) https://www.apache.org/foundation/events (delete & redirect) https://community.apache.org/calendars/ (???) https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ (edit template to have big pointer to new homepage, since this is almost all stale) My proposal would be: 1) move www.a.o/events to events.apache.org, make it an easy to modify git web site 2) have apachecon.com be about apachecon only 3) Make events.apache.org the landing page we currently have on apachecon.com that has both ACNA, EU Roadshow etc. Big +1, with an addendum that events.a.o would have a large footer that also pointed to the community calendar/meetups/other pages. -- - Shane Director & Member The Apache Software Foundation - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: Who owns events.apache.org?
Sorry, but I'm a -1. I view the roadshows as mini ApacheCons. I'm also trying to build sponsors who look at the whole year of events rather than just AC. Especially where AC EU is in fact a roadshow. I'd likely point www.a.o/events to events.apache.org and point that to apachecon.com. -- Kevin A. McGrail Asst. Treasurer & VP Fundraising, Apache Software Foundation Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project https://www.linkedin.com/in/kmcgrail - 703.798.0171 On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 7:07 AM, Shane Curcuru wrote: > Daniel Gruno wrote on 4/9/18 5:12 AM: > > On 04/09/2018 11:09 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > ...snip... > > There needs to be some consolidation, definitely. > > We currently use: > > - apachecon.com > > - events.apache.org > > - www.a.o/events/ > > Forgot some (my recommendations) > > https://www.apache.org/foundation/events (delete & redirect) > https://community.apache.org/calendars/ (???) > https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ (edit template to have big pointer > to new homepage, since this is almost all stale) > > > My proposal would be: > > > > 1) move www.a.o/events to events.apache.org, make it an easy to modify > > git web site > > 2) have apachecon.com be about apachecon only > > 3) Make events.apache.org the landing page we currently have on > > apachecon.com that has both ACNA, EU Roadshow etc. > > Big +1, with an addendum that events.a.o would have a large footer that > also pointed to the community calendar/meetups/other pages. > > -- > > - Shane > Director & Member > The Apache Software Foundation > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >
Re: Who owns events.apache.org?
Daniel Gruno wrote on 4/9/18 5:12 AM: > On 04/09/2018 11:09 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: ...snip... > There needs to be some consolidation, definitely. > We currently use: > - apachecon.com > - events.apache.org > - www.a.o/events/ Forgot some (my recommendations) https://www.apache.org/foundation/events (delete & redirect) https://community.apache.org/calendars/ (???) https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ (edit template to have big pointer to new homepage, since this is almost all stale) > My proposal would be: > > 1) move www.a.o/events to events.apache.org, make it an easy to modify > git web site > 2) have apachecon.com be about apachecon only > 3) Make events.apache.org the landing page we currently have on > apachecon.com that has both ACNA, EU Roadshow etc. Big +1, with an addendum that events.a.o would have a large footer that also pointed to the community calendar/meetups/other pages. -- - Shane Director & Member The Apache Software Foundation - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: Who owns events.apache.org?
On 04/09/2018 11:09 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Hi Rich, On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 4:00 PM, Rich Bowen wrote: Three answers: 1) Yes, ComDev owns it. .. I think formally this is the case... b) I, with my VP Events hat, own it... ..but if no one in comdev is interested in maintaining it, VP Events owning it sounds great to me. But if you have enough on your plate already I'd say let's kill it - better not have it than having stale or very incomplete information. There needs to be some consolidation, definitely. We currently use: - apachecon.com - events.apache.org - www.a.o/events/ My proposal would be: 1) move www.a.o/events to events.apache.org, make it an easy to modify git web site 2) have apachecon.com be about apachecon only 3) Make events.apache.org the landing page we currently have on apachecon.com that has both ACNA, EU Roadshow etc. ...and 4) Make it way easier for projects to integrate something that's appealing and makes people visit our events page ;) -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: Who owns events.apache.org?
On 9 April 2018 at 10:09, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi Rich, > > On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 4:00 PM, Rich Bowen wrote: >> Three answers: >> 1) Yes, ComDev owns it. .. > > I think formally this is the case... > >> b) I, with my VP Events hat, own it... > > ..but if no one in comdev is interested in maintaining it, VP Events > owning it sounds great to me. > > But if you have enough on your plate already I'd say let's kill it - > better not have it than having stale or very incomplete information. If so, I think there should at least be a redirect in its place. > -Bertrand > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: Who owns events.apache.org?
Hi Rich, On Tue, Apr 3, 2018 at 4:00 PM, Rich Bowen wrote: > Three answers: > 1) Yes, ComDev owns it. .. I think formally this is the case... > b) I, with my VP Events hat, own it... ..but if no one in comdev is interested in maintaining it, VP Events owning it sounds great to me. But if you have enough on your plate already I'd say let's kill it - better not have it than having stale or very incomplete information. -Bertrand - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: Who owns events.apache.org?
Rich Bowen wrote on 4/3/18 10:00 AM: > On 04/01/2018 09:09 AM, sebb wrote: >> As the subject says: which group is responsible for the content of >> events.apache.org? I made it point to current events, and included a "see source" link, once I figured out where the source was: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/concom/site/trunk/content/ >> Is it ComDev? > > Three answers: > > 1) Yes, ComDev owns it. > > b) I, with my VP Events hat, own it. That's what I'd say, IMO. A future task will be for you (Rich) to simply choose one URL that you want to be the landing page, and then - separately - we can figure out who's going to volunteer to migrate content (or at least landing pages and redirects) to that central URL. Personally, I like events.a.o since it's easy to remember, but I just dabble here. 8-) https://www.apache.org/events/ (www repo, cms markdown) https://www.apache.org/events/meetups.html https://www.apache.org/foundation/events https://events.apache.org/index.html (concom repo, cms markdown) https://community.apache.org/calendars/ (comdev repo, cms markdown) https://apachecon.com/ (apachecon repo, flat html) https://wiki.apache.org/apachecon/ (moinmoin wiki - it's still alive!) -- - Shane Director & Member The Apache Software Foundation - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
Re: Who owns events.apache.org?
Hi Rich, As I kown, If I meet some question about holding events, maybe ComDev can help me. Anyway, I am a newbie in ASF also, hope this can help you. -- Zen Lin 2018-04-03 22:00 GMT+08:00 Rich Bowen : > > > On 04/01/2018 09:09 AM, sebb wrote: > >> As the subject says: which group is responsible for the content of >> events.apache.org? >> >> Is it ComDev? >> > > Three answers: > > 1) Yes, ComDev owns it. > > b) I, with my VP Events hat, own it. > > #) Nobody owns it. It is a pit of despair, sadness, and bitrot, and needs > to be go away, and redirect to something that is actually updated. > > > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org > >
Re: Who owns events.apache.org?
On 04/01/2018 09:09 AM, sebb wrote: As the subject says: which group is responsible for the content of events.apache.org? Is it ComDev? Three answers: 1) Yes, ComDev owns it. b) I, with my VP Events hat, own it. #) Nobody owns it. It is a pit of despair, sadness, and bitrot, and needs to be go away, and redirect to something that is actually updated. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@community.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@community.apache.org
