Re: Merging dev and user lists for Fineract (INFRA-17176)

[Myrle Krantz]

Hey all,

Gavin has closed the user list for us. (If you're reading, thanks, Gavin!)
Now if you send an e-mail to u...@fineract.apache.org, your e-mail will
bounce with the message:

"Fineract user list is closed. Please see dev.at.fineract list instead"

Best Regards,
Myrle


On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 9:08 AM Santosh Math <
sant...@confluxtechnologies.com> wrote:

> +1
>
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 12:30 PM Mexina Daniel 
> wrote:
>
> > +1 option 1
> >
> > > On October 25, 2018 at 10:42 PM Myrle Krantz  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey James,
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 7:04 PM James Dailey 
> > wrote:
> > > > Will it preserve a future reopening of list? I.e. Can it be
> > re-established
> > > > or re-opened later?
> > >
> > > I understood Gavin's response to my question this way, yes.
> > >
> > > > Then ... Comms...can we make sure to follow up w key members of users
> > that
> > > > aren't part of dev to make sure they know the why and what? (I'm
> happy
> > to
> > > > craft an email to them... I think it should go out first to them as a
> > > > notification).
> > >
> > > Thanks.  Please wait the 72 hours for people on dev to object.  Then
> > > I'll wait to confirm the Infra request until after you've sent the
> > > mail to the user's list.  You might want to include instructions for
> > > subscribing to dev.
> > >
> > > : o),
> > > Myrle
> >
> > Mexina Daniel
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
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>
> Santosh Math
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Re: Merging dev and user lists for Fineract (INFRA-17176)

[Santosh Math]

+1

On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 12:30 PM Mexina Daniel  wrote:

> +1 option 1
>
> > On October 25, 2018 at 10:42 PM Myrle Krantz  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hey James,
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 7:04 PM James Dailey 
> wrote:
> > > Will it preserve a future reopening of list? I.e. Can it be
> re-established
> > > or re-opened later?
> >
> > I understood Gavin's response to my question this way, yes.
> >
> > > Then ... Comms...can we make sure to follow up w key members of users
> that
> > > aren't part of dev to make sure they know the why and what? (I'm happy
> to
> > > craft an email to them... I think it should go out first to them as a
> > > notification).
> >
> > Thanks.  Please wait the 72 hours for people on dev to object.  Then
> > I'll wait to confirm the Infra request until after you've sent the
> > mail to the user's list.  You might want to include instructions for
> > subscribing to dev.
> >
> > : o),
> > Myrle
>
> Mexina Daniel
>
>
> Singo Africa Limited
> Block G, Mbezi Beach B | 7 Nakawale Road | P.O BOX 78908 | 14121 Dar es
> salaam
>
> +255 71 211 0791 | +255 22 261 8511
>
> amala.co.tz | singo.africa
>


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*Conflux Technologies Pvt Ltd *
| *Office*: +91-080-41208662 |

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Bengaluru, Karnataka, 560043 INDIA

Re: Merging dev and user lists for Fineract (INFRA-17176)

[Mexina Daniel]

+1 option 1

> On October 25, 2018 at 10:42 PM Myrle Krantz  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hey James,
> 
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 7:04 PM James Dailey  wrote:
> > Will it preserve a future reopening of list? I.e. Can it be re-established
> > or re-opened later?
> 
> I understood Gavin's response to my question this way, yes.
> 
> > Then ... Comms...can we make sure to follow up w key members of users that
> > aren't part of dev to make sure they know the why and what? (I'm happy to
> > craft an email to them... I think it should go out first to them as a
> > notification).
> 
> Thanks.  Please wait the 72 hours for people on dev to object.  Then
> I'll wait to confirm the Infra request until after you've sent the
> mail to the user's list.  You might want to include instructions for
> subscribing to dev.
> 
> : o),
> Myrle

Mexina Daniel


Singo Africa Limited
Block G, Mbezi Beach B | 7 Nakawale Road | P.O BOX 78908 | 14121 Dar es
salaam

+255 71 211 0791 | +255 22 261 8511

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Re: Merging dev and user lists for Fineract (INFRA-17176)

[Courage Angeh]

+1 to Option #1

On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 6:14 PM Ed Cable  wrote:

> +1 to Option #1 and thank you to James for being willing to craft an email.
>
> Ed
>
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 6:12 PM Myrle Krantz  wrote:
>
> > Hey James,
> >
> > On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 7:04 PM James Dailey 
> > wrote:
> > > Will it preserve a future reopening of list? I.e. Can it be
> > re-established
> > > or re-opened later?
> >
> > I understood Gavin's response to my question this way, yes.
> >
> > > Then ... Comms...can we make sure to follow up w key members of users
> > that
> > > aren't part of dev to make sure they know the why and what? (I'm happy
> to
> > > craft an email to them... I think it should go out first to them as a
> > > notification).
> >
> > Thanks.  Please wait the 72 hours for people on dev to object.  Then
> > I'll wait to confirm the Infra request until after you've sent the
> > mail to the user's list.  You might want to include instructions for
> > subscribing to dev.
> >
> > : o),
> > Myrle
> >
>
>
> --
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> edca...@mifos.org | Skype: edcable | Mobile: +1.484.477.8649
>
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Re: Merging dev and user lists for Fineract (INFRA-17176)

[Ed Cable]

+1 to Option #1 and thank you to James for being willing to craft an email.

Ed

On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 6:12 PM Myrle Krantz  wrote:

> Hey James,
>
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 7:04 PM James Dailey 
> wrote:
> > Will it preserve a future reopening of list? I.e. Can it be
> re-established
> > or re-opened later?
>
> I understood Gavin's response to my question this way, yes.
>
> > Then ... Comms...can we make sure to follow up w key members of users
> that
> > aren't part of dev to make sure they know the why and what? (I'm happy to
> > craft an email to them... I think it should go out first to them as a
> > notification).
>
> Thanks.  Please wait the 72 hours for people on dev to object.  Then
> I'll wait to confirm the Infra request until after you've sent the
> mail to the user's list.  You might want to include instructions for
> subscribing to dev.
>
> : o),
> Myrle
>


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Re: Merging dev and user lists for Fineract (INFRA-17176)

[Myrle Krantz]

Hey James,

On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 7:04 PM James Dailey  wrote:
> Will it preserve a future reopening of list? I.e. Can it be re-established
> or re-opened later?

I understood Gavin's response to my question this way, yes.

> Then ... Comms...can we make sure to follow up w key members of users that
> aren't part of dev to make sure they know the why and what? (I'm happy to
> craft an email to them... I think it should go out first to them as a
> notification).

Thanks.  Please wait the 72 hours for people on dev to object.  Then
I'll wait to confirm the Infra request until after you've sent the
mail to the user's list.  You might want to include instructions for
subscribing to dev.

: o),
Myrle

Re: Merging dev and user lists for Fineract (INFRA-17176)

[James Dailey]

+1 on approach/option #1.

Will it preserve a future reopening of list? I.e. Can it be re-established
or re-opened later?
I assume the answer is yes, so that approach seems best, as it preserves
optionality.

Then ... Comms...can we make sure to follow up w key members of users that
aren't part of dev to make sure they know the why and what? (I'm happy to
craft an email to them... I think it should go out first to them as a
notification).







On Thu, Oct 25, 2018, 4:09 AM Myrle Krantz  wrote:

> Alright, Fineract Fans,
>
> That went faster than I expected.  Infra is amazing.
>
> Here are our options:
> 1.) close the user list.  Keep its archive separate.  Don't merge the
> subscriber list to dev.  Bounce messages to user with a message
> describing the new place to send questions.
> 2.) merge the user and dev lists.  Merge their archives.   Merge the
> subscribers.
>
> I'd prefer 1.  I don't feel comfortable autosubscribing people to the
> much noisier dev list without their permission, and I like the idea of
> keeping the archives separate.  Also, 1 is less work for infra.
>
> But I don't have a strong preference.  If nobody comments in the next
> 72 hours, I'll request that Infra take option #1.
>
> Best Regards,
> Myrle
>
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 12:53 PM Myrle Krantz  wrote:
> >
> > Hey Master Fineracters, : o)
> >
> > As per our current consensus on merging user and dev lists, I've
> > created an Infra ticket.  There are a few open questions for me, which
> > I've asked Infra.  Once they respond, I'll come back to you, and ask
> > again "are  you sure?", before I confirm the request with Infra.
> >
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17176
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Myrle
>

Re: Merging dev and user lists for Fineract (INFRA-17176)

[Myrle Krantz]

Alright, Fineract Fans,

That went faster than I expected.  Infra is amazing.

Here are our options:
1.) close the user list.  Keep its archive separate.  Don't merge the
subscriber list to dev.  Bounce messages to user with a message
describing the new place to send questions.
2.) merge the user and dev lists.  Merge their archives.   Merge the
subscribers.

I'd prefer 1.  I don't feel comfortable autosubscribing people to the
much noisier dev list without their permission, and I like the idea of
keeping the archives separate.  Also, 1 is less work for infra.

But I don't have a strong preference.  If nobody comments in the next
72 hours, I'll request that Infra take option #1.

Best Regards,
Myrle

On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 12:53 PM Myrle Krantz  wrote:
>
> Hey Master Fineracters, : o)
>
> As per our current consensus on merging user and dev lists, I've
> created an Infra ticket.  There are a few open questions for me, which
> I've asked Infra.  Once they respond, I'll come back to you, and ask
> again "are  you sure?", before I confirm the request with Infra.
>
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17176
>
> Best Regards,
> Myrle