Re: [DISCUSS] Voting from apache.org addresses

2019-12-05 Thread Till Rohrmann
+1 for the proposal. Cheers, Till On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 12:43 PM Dian Fu wrote: > Hi Dawid, > > Thanks for the reply. Counting all the votes from non apache addresses as > non-binding makes sense. Just as Jark mentioned, we can always remind the > committer/PMC to vote again to use the apache

Re: [DISCUSS] Voting from apache.org addresses

2019-12-04 Thread Dian Fu
Hi Dawid, Thanks for the reply. Counting all the votes from non apache addresses as non-binding makes sense. Just as Jark mentioned, we can always remind the committer/PMC to vote again to use the apache address if necessary (i.e. when the number of binding votes is not enough). Thanks, Dian

Re: [DISCUSS] Voting from apache.org addresses

2019-12-04 Thread Kurt Young
+1 (from my apache email ;-)) Best, Kurt On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 7:22 PM Jark Wu wrote: > I'm +1 on this proposal. > > Regarding to the case that Dian mentioned, we can reminder the > committer/PMC to vote again use the apache email, > and of course the non-apache vote is counted as non-binding

Re: [DISCUSS] Voting from apache.org addresses

2019-12-04 Thread Jark Wu
I'm +1 on this proposal. Regarding to the case that Dian mentioned, we can reminder the committer/PMC to vote again use the apache email, and of course the non-apache vote is counted as non-binding. Best, Jark On Wed, 4 Dec 2019 at 17:33, Dawid Wysakowicz wrote: > Hi Dian, > > I don't want to

Re: [DISCUSS] Voting from apache.org addresses

2019-12-04 Thread Dawid Wysakowicz
Hi Dian, I don't want to be very strict, but I think it should be counted as non-binding, if it comes from non apache address, yes. Anybody should be able to verify a vote. Moreover I think this the only way to "encourage" all committers to use their apache addresses ;) Best, Dawid On 04/12/20

Re: [DISCUSS] Voting from apache.org addresses

2019-12-04 Thread Dian Fu
Thanks for your explanation Dawid! It makes sense to me now. +1. Just one minor question: Does this mean that if a committer/PMC accidentally votes using the non apache email, even if the person who summarizes the votes clearly KNOWS who he/she is, that vote will still be counted as non-binding?

Re: [DISCUSS] Voting from apache.org addresses

2019-12-04 Thread Aljoscha Krettek
Very sensible! +1 > On 4. Dec 2019, at 10:02, Chesnay Schepler wrote: > > I believe this to be a sensible approach by Dawid; +1. > > On 04/12/2019 09:04, Dawid Wysakowicz wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> Sorry I think I was not clear enough on my initial e-mail. Let me first >> clarify two things

Re: [DISCUSS] Voting from apache.org addresses

2019-12-04 Thread Chesnay Schepler
I believe this to be a sensible approach by Dawid; +1. On 04/12/2019 09:04, Dawid Wysakowicz wrote: Hi all, Sorry I think I was not clear enough on my initial e-mail. Let me first clarify two things and later on try to rephrase my initial suggestion. 1. I do not want to count all votes fr

Re: [DISCUSS] Voting from apache.org addresses

2019-12-04 Thread Jingsong Li
Hi Dawid, Thanks for you explanation. You mean that "people who vote for binding +1 need to use apache email addresses". Although I can't vote binding +1, I am +1 for this suggestion. Best, Jingsong Lee On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 4:04 PM Dawid Wysakowicz wrote: > Hi all, > > Sorry I think I was no

Re: [DISCUSS] Voting from apache.org addresses

2019-12-04 Thread Dawid Wysakowicz
Hi all, Sorry I think I was not clear enough on my initial e-mail. Let me first clarify two things and later on try to rephrase my initial suggestion. 1. I do not want to count all votes from @apache.org addresses as binding 2. I do not want to discourage people that do not have @apache.org

Re: [DISCUSS] Voting from apache.org addresses

2019-12-03 Thread Dian Fu
Thanks Dawid for start this discussion. I have the same feeling with Xuefu and Jingsong. Besides that, according to the bylaws, for some kinds of votes, only the votes from active PMC members are binding, such as product release. So an email address doesn't help here. Even if a vote is from a F

Re: [DISCUSS] Voting from apache.org addresses

2019-12-03 Thread Jingsong Lee
Thanks Dawid for driving this discussion. +1 to Xuefu's viewpoint. I am not a Flink committer, but sometimes I use apache email address to send email. Another way is that we require the binding ticket to must contain "binding". Otherwise it must be a "non-binding" ticket. In this way, we can let

Re: [DISCUSS] Voting from apache.org addresses

2019-12-03 Thread Xuefu Z
Hi Dawid, Thanks for initiating this discussion. I understand the problem you described, but the solution might not work as having an apache.org email address doesn't necessary mean it's from a Flink committer. This certainly applies to me. It probably helps for the voters to identify themselves

[DISCUSS] Voting from apache.org addresses

2019-12-03 Thread Dawid Wysakowicz
Hi, I wanted to reach out primarily to the Flink's committers. I think whenever we cast a vote on a proposal, is it a FLIP, release candidate or any other proposal, we should use our apache.org email address. It is not an easy task to check if a person voting is a committer/PMC if we do not work