Re: Announce missing - in moderation?

[William A Rowe Jr]

On Sat, Sep 29, 2018, 09:25 Daniel Ruggeri  wrote:

> Hi, Bill;
>
>Sure. I've updated the scripts to set the reply-to address and also
> fired a message off to ann@a.o to wrap it up. I didn't change the date
> of the announcement, so hopefully that won't pose a problem.
>

Confirming...

https://lists.apache.org/list.html?annou...@apache.org

   Later I'll commit a change to just send separate emails instead of a
> multi-to message since that seems like the easiest approach.
>

+1!

Thanks for RMing!

Re: Announce missing - in moderation?

[Daniel Ruggeri]

Hi, Bill;

   Sure. I've updated the scripts to set the reply-to address and also
fired a message off to ann@a.o to wrap it up. I didn't change the date
of the announcement, so hopefully that won't pose a problem.

   Later I'll commit a change to just send separate emails instead of a
multi-to message since that seems like the easiest approach.

-- 
Daniel Ruggeri

On 9/28/2018 9:13 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote:
> Sebb thank you for your analysis!
>
> Two issues; one, the reply-to field of security announcements was set
> to security@, and this is in direct contravention of Apache policy.
> Security@ is exclusively for reporting undisclosed vulnerabilities,
> and all other traffic is ignored. This group of email addresses must
> never be shared without context and usage guidance. Please, never do
> that again.
>
> Two, this announce is still not published to ann@a.o. What is the next
> step to cause this to happen? Daniel, could you use a conventional
> mail agent to wrap this cycle up?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 18:40 sebb  > wrote:
>
> Also just realised the Message-Id is missing.
>
> Some servers (e.g. GMail) may add it; if they don't it can causes
> issues for mod_mbox and possibly other archivers.
> It also causes problems for mail threading.
> And if the mail is sent to multiple destinations, each generated
> Message-Id will be different.
>
> On 26 September 2018 at 22:04, Noel Butler  > wrote:
>
> On 27/09/2018 05:37, sebb AT ASF wrote:
>
>>
>> I don't know if this is relevant, but the messages don't have
>> a Date: header.
>  
> A  this would be because Daniel used curl to send them
> rather than a sane method :)
>  
>  
>  
>> Also some of the received headers look odd:
>>
>> Received: from Announcement.txt (IP redacted)
>> by mailrelay1-lw-us.apache.org
>>  (ASF Mail Server at
>> mailrelay1-lw-us.apache.org
>> ) with ESMTPSA id redacted
>> for > >; Sat, 22 Sep 2018
>> 11:41:35 + (UTC)
>>
>> and
>>
>> Received: from CVE-2018-11763-h2-dos-by-settings.txt (IP
>> redacted)
>> by mailrelay2-lw-us.apache.org
>>  (ASF Mail Server at
>> mailrelay2-lw-us.apache.org
>> ) with ESMTPSA id redacted
>> for > >; Sat, 22 Sep 2018
>> 11:41:38 + (UTC)
>>
> -- 
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Noel Butler
>
> This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally
> privileged information, therefore remains confidential and
> subject to copyright protected under international law. You
> may not disseminate, discuss, or reveal, any part, to anyone,
> without the authors express written authority to do so. If you
> are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender then
> delete all copies of this message including attachments,
> immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege
> are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of
> this message. Only PDF  and ODF
>  documents
> accepted, please do not send proprietary formatted documents
>
>

Re: Announce missing - in moderation?

[William A Rowe Jr]

Sebb thank you for your analysis!

Two issues; one, the reply-to field of security announcements was set to
security@, and this is in direct contravention of Apache policy. Security@
is exclusively for reporting undisclosed vulnerabilities, and all other
traffic is ignored. This group of email addresses must never be shared
without context and usage guidance. Please, never do that again.

Two, this announce is still not published to ann@a.o. What is the next step
to cause this to happen? Daniel, could you use a conventional mail agent to
wrap this cycle up?



On Wed, Sep 26, 2018, 18:40 sebb  wrote:

> Also just realised the Message-Id is missing.
>
> Some servers (e.g. GMail) may add it; if they don't it can causes issues
> for mod_mbox and possibly other archivers.
> It also causes problems for mail threading.
> And if the mail is sent to multiple destinations, each generated
> Message-Id will be different.
>
> On 26 September 2018 at 22:04, Noel Butler  wrote:
>
>> On 27/09/2018 05:37, sebb AT ASF wrote:
>>
>>
>> I don't know if this is relevant, but the messages don't have a Date:
>> header.
>>
>>
>> A  this would be because Daniel used curl to send them rather than a
>> sane method :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Also some of the received headers look odd:
>>
>> Received: from Announcement.txt (IP redacted)
>> by mailrelay1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at
>> mailrelay1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id redacted
>> for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2018 11:41:35 +
>> (UTC)
>>
>> and
>>
>> Received: from CVE-2018-11763-h2-dos-by-settings.txt (IP redacted)
>> by mailrelay2-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at
>> mailrelay2-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id redacted
>> for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2018 11:41:38 +
>> (UTC)
>>
>> --
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Noel Butler
>> This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged
>> information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright
>> protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or
>> reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority
>> to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender
>> then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately.
>> Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by
>> reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF
>>  and ODF
>>  documents accepted, please
>> do not send proprietary formatted documents
>>
>
>

Re: Announce missing - in moderation?

[sebb]

Also just realised the Message-Id is missing.

Some servers (e.g. GMail) may add it; if they don't it can causes issues
for mod_mbox and possibly other archivers.
It also causes problems for mail threading.
And if the mail is sent to multiple destinations, each generated Message-Id
will be different.

On 26 September 2018 at 22:04, Noel Butler  wrote:

> On 27/09/2018 05:37, sebb AT ASF wrote:
>
>
> I don't know if this is relevant, but the messages don't have a Date:
> header.
>
>
> A  this would be because Daniel used curl to send them rather than a
> sane method :)
>
>
>
>
> Also some of the received headers look odd:
>
> Received: from Announcement.txt (IP redacted)
> by mailrelay1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at
> mailrelay1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id redacted
> for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2018 11:41:35 +
> (UTC)
>
> and
>
> Received: from CVE-2018-11763-h2-dos-by-settings.txt (IP redacted)
> by mailrelay2-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at
> mailrelay2-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id redacted
> for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2018 11:41:38 +
> (UTC)
>
> --
>
> Kind Regards,
>
> Noel Butler
> This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally privileged
> information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright
> protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or
> reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written authority
> to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender
> then delete all copies of this message including attachments, immediately.
> Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not waived or lost by
> reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only PDF
>  and ODF
>  documents accepted, please do
> not send proprietary formatted documents
>

Re: Announce missing - in moderation?

[Noel Butler]

On 27/09/2018 05:37, sebb AT ASF wrote:

> I don't know if this is relevant, but the messages don't have a Date: header.

A  this would be because Daniel used curl to send them rather than a
sane method :) 

> Also some of the received headers look odd:
> 
> Received: from Announcement.txt (IP redacted)
> by mailrelay1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at
> mailrelay1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id redacted
> for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2018 11:41:35 + (UTC)
> 
> and
> 
> Received: from CVE-2018-11763-h2-dos-by-settings.txt (IP redacted)
> by mailrelay2-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at
> mailrelay2-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id redacted
> for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2018 11:41:38 + (UTC)

-- 
Kind Regards, 

Noel Butler 

This Email, including any attachments, may contain legally 
privileged
information, therefore remains confidential and subject to copyright
protected under international law. You may not disseminate, discuss, or
reveal, any part, to anyone, without the authors express written
authority to do so. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify
the sender then delete all copies of this message including attachments,
immediately. Confidentiality, copyright, and legal privilege are not
waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery of this message. Only
PDF [1] and ODF [2] documents accepted, please do not send proprietary
formatted documents 

 

Links:
--
[1] http://www.adobe.com/
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenDocument

Re: Announce missing - in moderation?

[sebb AT ASF]

On 26 September 2018 at 16:17, William A Rowe Jr  wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 11:56 PM Daniel Ruggeri 
> wrote:
>>
>> FWIW, this was a straight forward multi-To field email message addressed
>> to both lists. If there is a way I can improve the announce/release
>> automation, I am happy to do so. Maybe a better way is to send multiple
>> messages?
>
>
> At some point, http://httpd.apache.org/dev/release.html was edited to drop
> a very critical point; each should be sent is a distinct message. Most of
> the
> announce lists automatically drop multi-recipient garbage as spam. This
> will go for the various bugtraq lists as well.
>

I don't think it is true of announce@a.o.

The following messages have the same Message-Id:

https://lists.apache.org/api/source.lua/bd7f6870ba6215d013eed547faa4f7faf75da3189144891b0c3ec825@%3Cannounce.apache.org%3E

https://lists.apache.org/api/source.lua/5066198082d075dcde1230262f1e273dccce72580c6da33b09077b20@%3Cdev.jmeter.apache.org%3E

So clearly the same mail was sent to both announce@a,o and dev@jmeter
(and user@)

Sebb.
>
>

Re: Announce missing - in moderation?

[sebb AT ASF]

On 26 September 2018 at 00:12, William A Rowe Jr  wrote:
> Agreed it was published to ann@httpd.a.o, likely Jim's approval.
>
>  It has not arrived at a...@apache.org.
>
> Sebb, can you shed any light on this moderation issue?
>

I just checked on hermes.

There are two mails from Daniel awaiting moderation dated Sep 22 11:41.
These are earlier versions of the ones that reached the announce@httpd
mailing list.
They have slightly different bodies; I think it would be confusing if
they were now moderated through.

I don't know if these mails were sent to the announce@httpd moderators
(I'm not one).
AFAICT we did not receive receive these for announce@a.o moderation.

I don't know if this is relevant, but the messages don't have a Date: header.
Also some of the received headers look odd:

Received: from Announcement.txt (IP redacted)
by mailrelay1-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at
mailrelay1-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id redacted
for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2018 11:41:35 + (UTC)

and

Received: from CVE-2018-11763-h2-dos-by-settings.txt (IP redacted)
by mailrelay2-lw-us.apache.org (ASF Mail Server at
mailrelay2-lw-us.apache.org) with ESMTPSA id redacted
for ; Sat, 22 Sep 2018 11:41:38 + (UTC)

Note also: in the SMTP transcript below, the message is only sent to
announce@httpd.
This would likely explain why we did not see the mails for
announce@a.o moderation.

>
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2018, 12:29 Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>>
>> FWIW, I just saw a mod request for *an* announcement and approved it
>>
>> On Sep 25, 2018, at 12:19 PM, Private LIst Moderation
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>> I've looked in the moderation queue and did not find the announce@
>> moderation email.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> On Sep 25, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Daniel Ruggeri  wrote:
>>
>> Infra points out it's easier to just resend than to dig out the message
>> they found on the server. I've sent again - receiving these confirmations:
>>
>> < 235 2.7.0 Authentication successful
>>
>> MAIL FROM: SIZE=2919
>>
>> < 250 2.1.0 Ok
>>
>> RCPT TO:
>>
>> < 250 2.1.5 Ok
>>
>> DATA
>>
>> < 354 End data with .
>> } [data not shown]
>> * We are completely uploaded and fine
>> < 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as EB77F2332
>>
>> < 235 2.7.0 Authentication successful
>>
>> MAIL FROM: SIZE=874
>>
>> < 250 2.1.0 Ok
>>
>> RCPT TO:
>>
>> < 250 2.1.5 Ok
>>
>> DATA
>>
>> < 354 End data with .
>> } [data not shown]
>> * We are completely uploaded and fine
>> < 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 9B4B1E1B
>>
>> I've also added Craig here as he was unable to find the message sent to
>> announce@a.o - with luck, these won't vanish, but at least this time I have
>> the message IDs...
>> --
>> Daniel Ruggeri
>>
>> On 2018-09-24 16:59, Daniel Ruggeri wrote:
>>
>> Yes, I sent via curl (true story, you can send email with curl)
>> directly to the relay service and authenticated with my ASF
>> credentials. I had checked in with Infra here at ACNA and they saw
>> *something* that looked like my message. I'll check in with them
>> again.
>> Thanks, folks
>> --
>> Daniel Ruggeri
>> On September 24, 2018 3:07:00 PM EDT, William A Rowe Jr
>>  wrote:
>>
>> I'm seeing no announce@httpd moderation request. (I am not an
>> annou...@apache.org moderator.)
>> Did you send from your @apache.org [1] avail-id through the ASF
>> server? It would
>> be rejected for non-apache and for mismatched SPF records.
>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 9:16 AM Daniel Ruggeri 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, all;
>> I sent the announce message for 2.4.35, but haven't received it
>> myself. I didn't get errors sending that I am aware of. Perhaps it
>> is in moderation? If not, I can check in with infra to see if
>> mail-relay.a.o ate it.
>> Thanks
>> --
>> Daniel Ruggeri
>>
>> Links:
>> --
>> [1] http://apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>> Craig L Russell
>> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
>> c...@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo
>>
>>
>

Re: Announce missing - in moderation?

[William A Rowe Jr]

On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 11:56 PM Daniel Ruggeri 
wrote:

> FWIW, this was a straight forward multi-To field email message addressed
> to both lists. If there is a way I can improve the announce/release
> automation, I am happy to do so. Maybe a better way is to send multiple
> messages?
>

At some point, http://httpd.apache.org/dev/release.html was edited to drop
a very critical point; each should be sent is a distinct message. Most of
the
announce lists automatically drop multi-recipient garbage as spam. This
will go for the various bugtraq lists as well.

Re: Announce missing - in moderation?

[Daniel Ruggeri]

FWIW, this was a straight forward multi-To field email message addressed to 
both lists. If there is a way I can improve the announce/release automation, I 
am happy to do so. Maybe a better way is to send multiple messages?
-- 
Daniel Ruggeri

On September 25, 2018 7:12:25 PM EDT, William A Rowe Jr  
wrote:
>Agreed it was published to ann@httpd.a.o, likely Jim's approval.
>
> It has not arrived at a...@apache.org.
>
>Sebb, can you shed any light on this moderation issue?
>
>
>
>On Tue, Sep 25, 2018, 12:29 Jim Jagielski  wrote:
>
>> FWIW, I just saw a mod request for *an* announcement and approved it
>>
>> On Sep 25, 2018, at 12:19 PM, Private LIst Moderation <
>> mod-priv...@gsuite.cloud.apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>> I've looked in the moderation queue and did not find the announce@
>> moderation email.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> On Sep 25, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Daniel Ruggeri 
>wrote:
>>
>> Infra points out it's easier to just resend than to dig out the
>message
>> they found on the server. I've sent again - receiving these
>confirmations:
>>
>> < 235 2.7.0 Authentication successful
>>
>> MAIL FROM: SIZE=2919
>>
>> < 250 2.1.0 Ok
>>
>> RCPT TO:
>>
>> < 250 2.1.5 Ok
>>
>> DATA
>>
>> < 354 End data with .
>> } [data not shown]
>> * We are completely uploaded and fine
>> < 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as EB77F2332
>>
>> < 235 2.7.0 Authentication successful
>>
>> MAIL FROM: SIZE=874
>>
>> < 250 2.1.0 Ok
>>
>> RCPT TO:
>>
>> < 250 2.1.5 Ok
>>
>> DATA
>>
>> < 354 End data with .
>> } [data not shown]
>> * We are completely uploaded and fine
>> < 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 9B4B1E1B
>>
>> I've also added Craig here as he was unable to find the message sent
>to
>> announce@a.o - with luck, these won't vanish, but at least this time
>I
>> have the message IDs...
>> --
>> Daniel Ruggeri
>>
>> On 2018-09-24 16:59, Daniel Ruggeri wrote:
>>
>> Yes, I sent via curl (true story, you can send email with curl)
>> directly to the relay service and authenticated with my ASF
>> credentials. I had checked in with Infra here at ACNA and they saw
>> *something* that looked like my message. I'll check in with them
>> again.
>> Thanks, folks
>> --
>> Daniel Ruggeri
>> On September 24, 2018 3:07:00 PM EDT, William A Rowe Jr
>>  wrote:
>>
>> I'm seeing no announce@httpd moderation request. (I am not an
>> annou...@apache.org moderator.)
>> Did you send from your @apache.org [1] avail-id through the ASF
>> server? It would
>> be rejected for non-apache and for mismatched SPF records.
>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 9:16 AM Daniel Ruggeri 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, all;
>> I sent the announce message for 2.4.35, but haven't received it
>> myself. I didn't get errors sending that I am aware of. Perhaps it
>> is in moderation? If not, I can check in with infra to see if
>> mail-relay.a.o ate it.
>> Thanks
>> --
>> Daniel Ruggeri
>>
>> Links:
>> --
>> [1] http://apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>> Craig L Russell
>> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
>> c...@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo
>>
>>
>>

Re: Announce missing - in moderation?

[William A Rowe Jr]

Agreed it was published to ann@httpd.a.o, likely Jim's approval.

 It has not arrived at a...@apache.org.

Sebb, can you shed any light on this moderation issue?



On Tue, Sep 25, 2018, 12:29 Jim Jagielski  wrote:

> FWIW, I just saw a mod request for *an* announcement and approved it
>
> On Sep 25, 2018, at 12:19 PM, Private LIst Moderation <
> mod-priv...@gsuite.cloud.apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Daniel,
>
> I've looked in the moderation queue and did not find the announce@
> moderation email.
>
> Craig
>
> On Sep 25, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Daniel Ruggeri  wrote:
>
> Infra points out it's easier to just resend than to dig out the message
> they found on the server. I've sent again - receiving these confirmations:
>
> < 235 2.7.0 Authentication successful
>
> MAIL FROM: SIZE=2919
>
> < 250 2.1.0 Ok
>
> RCPT TO:
>
> < 250 2.1.5 Ok
>
> DATA
>
> < 354 End data with .
> } [data not shown]
> * We are completely uploaded and fine
> < 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as EB77F2332
>
> < 235 2.7.0 Authentication successful
>
> MAIL FROM: SIZE=874
>
> < 250 2.1.0 Ok
>
> RCPT TO:
>
> < 250 2.1.5 Ok
>
> DATA
>
> < 354 End data with .
> } [data not shown]
> * We are completely uploaded and fine
> < 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 9B4B1E1B
>
> I've also added Craig here as he was unable to find the message sent to
> announce@a.o - with luck, these won't vanish, but at least this time I
> have the message IDs...
> --
> Daniel Ruggeri
>
> On 2018-09-24 16:59, Daniel Ruggeri wrote:
>
> Yes, I sent via curl (true story, you can send email with curl)
> directly to the relay service and authenticated with my ASF
> credentials. I had checked in with Infra here at ACNA and they saw
> *something* that looked like my message. I'll check in with them
> again.
> Thanks, folks
> --
> Daniel Ruggeri
> On September 24, 2018 3:07:00 PM EDT, William A Rowe Jr
>  wrote:
>
> I'm seeing no announce@httpd moderation request. (I am not an
> annou...@apache.org moderator.)
> Did you send from your @apache.org [1] avail-id through the ASF
> server? It would
> be rejected for non-apache and for mismatched SPF records.
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 9:16 AM Daniel Ruggeri 
> wrote:
>
> Hi, all;
> I sent the announce message for 2.4.35, but haven't received it
> myself. I didn't get errors sending that I am aware of. Perhaps it
> is in moderation? If not, I can check in with infra to see if
> mail-relay.a.o ate it.
> Thanks
> --
> Daniel Ruggeri
>
> Links:
> --
> [1] http://apache.org
>
>
>
> Craig L Russell
> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
> c...@apache.org http://db.apache.org/jdo
>
>
>

Re: Announce missing - in moderation?

[Jim Jagielski]

FWIW, I just saw a mod request for *an* announcement and approved it

> On Sep 25, 2018, at 12:19 PM, Private LIst Moderation 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Daniel,
> 
> I've looked in the moderation queue and did not find the announce@ moderation 
> email.
> 
> Craig
> 
>> On Sep 25, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Daniel Ruggeri > > wrote:
>> 
>> Infra points out it's easier to just resend than to dig out the message they 
>> found on the server. I've sent again - receiving these confirmations:
>> 
>> < 235 2.7.0 Authentication successful
>>> MAIL FROM:mailto:drugg...@apache.org>> SIZE=2919
>> < 250 2.1.0 Ok
>>> RCPT TO:mailto:annou...@httpd.apache.org>>
>> < 250 2.1.5 Ok
>>> DATA
>> < 354 End data with .
>> } [data not shown]
>> * We are completely uploaded and fine
>> < 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as EB77F2332
>> 
>> < 235 2.7.0 Authentication successful
>>> MAIL FROM:mailto:drugg...@apache.org>> SIZE=874
>> < 250 2.1.0 Ok
>>> RCPT TO:mailto:annou...@httpd.apache.org>>
>> < 250 2.1.5 Ok
>>> DATA
>> < 354 End data with .
>> } [data not shown]
>> * We are completely uploaded and fine
>> < 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 9B4B1E1B
>> 
>> I've also added Craig here as he was unable to find the message sent to 
>> announce@a.o  - with luck, these won't vanish, but at 
>> least this time I have the message IDs...
>> -- 
>> Daniel Ruggeri
>> 
>> On 2018-09-24 16:59, Daniel Ruggeri wrote:
>>> Yes, I sent via curl (true story, you can send email with curl)
>>> directly to the relay service and authenticated with my ASF
>>> credentials. I had checked in with Infra here at ACNA and they saw
>>> *something* that looked like my message. I'll check in with them
>>> again.
>>> Thanks, folks
>>> --
>>> Daniel Ruggeri
>>> On September 24, 2018 3:07:00 PM EDT, William A Rowe Jr
>>> mailto:wr...@rowe-clan.net>> wrote:
 I'm seeing no announce@httpd moderation request. (I am not an
 annou...@apache.org  moderator.)
 Did you send from your @apache.org [1] avail-id through the ASF
 server? It would
 be rejected for non-apache and for mismatched SPF records.
 On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 9:16 AM Daniel Ruggeri >>> >
 wrote:
> Hi, all;
> I sent the announce message for 2.4.35, but haven't received it
> myself. I didn't get errors sending that I am aware of. Perhaps it
> is in moderation? If not, I can check in with infra to see if
> mail-relay.a.o ate it.
> Thanks
> --
> Daniel Ruggeri
>>> Links:
>>> --
>>> [1] http://apache.org 
>> 
> 
> Craig L Russell
> Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
> c...@apache.org  http://db.apache.org/jdo 
> 

Re: Announce missing - in moderation?

[Private LIst Moderation]

Hi Daniel,

I've looked in the moderation queue and did not find the announce@ moderation 
email.

Craig

> On Sep 25, 2018, at 7:00 AM, Daniel Ruggeri  wrote:
> 
> Infra points out it's easier to just resend than to dig out the message they 
> found on the server. I've sent again - receiving these confirmations:
> 
> < 235 2.7.0 Authentication successful
>> MAIL FROM: SIZE=2919
> < 250 2.1.0 Ok
>> RCPT TO:
> < 250 2.1.5 Ok
>> DATA
> < 354 End data with .
> } [data not shown]
> * We are completely uploaded and fine
> < 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as EB77F2332
> 
> < 235 2.7.0 Authentication successful
>> MAIL FROM: SIZE=874
> < 250 2.1.0 Ok
>> RCPT TO:
> < 250 2.1.5 Ok
>> DATA
> < 354 End data with .
> } [data not shown]
> * We are completely uploaded and fine
> < 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 9B4B1E1B
> 
> I've also added Craig here as he was unable to find the message sent to 
> announce@a.o - with luck, these won't vanish, but at least this time I have 
> the message IDs...
> -- 
> Daniel Ruggeri
> 
> On 2018-09-24 16:59, Daniel Ruggeri wrote:
>> Yes, I sent via curl (true story, you can send email with curl)
>> directly to the relay service and authenticated with my ASF
>> credentials. I had checked in with Infra here at ACNA and they saw
>> *something* that looked like my message. I'll check in with them
>> again.
>> Thanks, folks
>> --
>> Daniel Ruggeri
>> On September 24, 2018 3:07:00 PM EDT, William A Rowe Jr
>>  wrote:
>>> I'm seeing no announce@httpd moderation request. (I am not an
>>> annou...@apache.org moderator.)
>>> Did you send from your @apache.org [1] avail-id through the ASF
>>> server? It would
>>> be rejected for non-apache and for mismatched SPF records.
>>> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 9:16 AM Daniel Ruggeri 
>>> wrote:
 Hi, all;
 I sent the announce message for 2.4.35, but haven't received it
 myself. I didn't get errors sending that I am aware of. Perhaps it
 is in moderation? If not, I can check in with infra to see if
 mail-relay.a.o ate it.
 Thanks
 --
 Daniel Ruggeri
>> Links:
>> --
>> [1] http://apache.org
> 

Craig L Russell
Secretary, Apache Software Foundation
c...@apache.org  http://db.apache.org/jdo 

Re: Announce missing - in moderation?

[Daniel Ruggeri]

Infra points out it's easier to just resend than to dig out the message 
they found on the server. I've sent again - receiving these 
confirmations:


< 235 2.7.0 Authentication successful

MAIL FROM: SIZE=2919

< 250 2.1.0 Ok

RCPT TO:

< 250 2.1.5 Ok

DATA

< 354 End data with .
} [data not shown]
* We are completely uploaded and fine
< 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as EB77F2332

< 235 2.7.0 Authentication successful

MAIL FROM: SIZE=874

< 250 2.1.0 Ok

RCPT TO:

< 250 2.1.5 Ok

DATA

< 354 End data with .
} [data not shown]
* We are completely uploaded and fine
< 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 9B4B1E1B

I've also added Craig here as he was unable to find the message sent to 
announce@a.o - with luck, these won't vanish, but at least this time I 
have the message IDs...

--
Daniel Ruggeri

On 2018-09-24 16:59, Daniel Ruggeri wrote:

Yes, I sent via curl (true story, you can send email with curl)
directly to the relay service and authenticated with my ASF
credentials. I had checked in with Infra here at ACNA and they saw
*something* that looked like my message. I'll check in with them
again.

Thanks, folks
--
Daniel Ruggeri

On September 24, 2018 3:07:00 PM EDT, William A Rowe Jr
 wrote:


I'm seeing no announce@httpd moderation request. (I am not an
annou...@apache.org moderator.)

Did you send from your @apache.org [1] avail-id through the ASF
server? It would
be rejected for non-apache and for mismatched SPF records.

On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 9:16 AM Daniel Ruggeri 
wrote:


Hi, all;
I sent the announce message for 2.4.35, but haven't received it
myself. I didn't get errors sending that I am aware of. Perhaps it
is in moderation? If not, I can check in with infra to see if
mail-relay.a.o ate it.

Thanks
--
Daniel Ruggeri



Links:
--
[1] http://apache.org

Re: Announce missing - in moderation?

[Daniel Ruggeri]

Yes, I sent via curl (true story, you can send email with curl) directly to the 
relay service and authenticated with my ASF credentials. I had checked in with 
Infra here at ACNA and they saw *something* that looked like my message. I'll 
check in with them again.

Thanks, folks
-- 
Daniel Ruggeri

On September 24, 2018 3:07:00 PM EDT, William A Rowe Jr  
wrote:
>I'm seeing no announce@httpd moderation request. (I am not an
>annou...@apache.org moderator.)
>
>Did you send from your @apache.org avail-id through the ASF server? It
>would
>be rejected for non-apache and for mismatched SPF records.
>
>
>
>On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 9:16 AM Daniel Ruggeri 
>wrote:
>
>> Hi, all;
>>I sent the announce message for 2.4.35, but haven't received it
>myself.
>> I didn't get errors sending that I am aware of. Perhaps it is in
>> moderation? If not, I can check in with infra to see if
>mail-relay.a.o ate
>> it.
>>
>> Thanks
>> --
>> Daniel Ruggeri
>>

Re: Announce missing - in moderation?

[William A Rowe Jr]

I'm seeing no announce@httpd moderation request. (I am not an
annou...@apache.org moderator.)

Did you send from your @apache.org avail-id through the ASF server? It would
be rejected for non-apache and for mismatched SPF records.



On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 9:16 AM Daniel Ruggeri  wrote:

> Hi, all;
>I sent the announce message for 2.4.35, but haven't received it myself.
> I didn't get errors sending that I am aware of. Perhaps it is in
> moderation? If not, I can check in with infra to see if mail-relay.a.o ate
> it.
>
> Thanks
> --
> Daniel Ruggeri
>

Re: Announce missing - in moderation?

[Jim Jagielski]

me no see either

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 10:22 AM, .  wrote:
> 
> Confirming that I also didn't receive the announce email.
> 
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 10:16 AM Daniel Ruggeri  > wrote:
> Hi, all;
>I sent the announce message for 2.4.35, but haven't received it myself. I 
> didn't get errors sending that I am aware of. Perhaps it is in moderation? If 
> not, I can check in with infra to see if mail-relay.a.o ate it.
> 
> Thanks
> -- 
> Daniel Ruggeri

Re: Announce missing - in moderation?

[.]

Confirming that I also didn't receive the announce email.

On Mon, Sep 24, 2018, 10:16 AM Daniel Ruggeri  wrote:

> Hi, all;
>I sent the announce message for 2.4.35, but haven't received it myself.
> I didn't get errors sending that I am aware of. Perhaps it is in
> moderation? If not, I can check in with infra to see if mail-relay.a.o ate
> it.
>
> Thanks
> --
> Daniel Ruggeri
>