Re: [Dev] Cleaning up [pcr]
Isaac David : looking at libredbdiff i'm noticing that some packages in [libre] used to replace things which no longer exist in Arch proper (i.e. non-AUR), and serve no other purpose for Parabola as far as i can tell. vestiges from a previous age: javacc jquery jquery-ui psi spacefm usermin webmin xbmc-pvr-addons-lts xchat weigh in if you think there's any reason they shouldn't be disposed of (in abslibre as well), or if you would like to see them moved to [pcr] gone -- Isaac David GPG: 38D33EF29A7691134357648733466E12EC7BA943 Tox: 0C730E0156E96E6193A1445D413557FF5F277BA969A4EA20AC9352889D3B390E77651E816F0C ___ Dev mailing list Dev@lists.parabola.nu https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [Dev] Cleaning up [pcr]
The [pcr] repository has many packages that haven't been upgraded for ages, however, they are not marked as outdated. Some of those unused packages are not even compiled (they are only in the abslibre) looking at libredbdiff i'm noticing that some packages in [libre] used to replace things which no longer exist in Arch proper (i.e. non-AUR), and serve no other purpose for Parabola as far as i can tell. vestiges from a previous age: javacc jquery jquery-ui psi spacefm usermin webmin xbmc-pvr-addons-lts xchat weigh in if you think there's any reason they shouldn't be disposed of (in abslibre as well), or if you would like to see them moved to [pcr] -- Isaac David GPG: 38D33EF29A7691134357648733466E12EC7BA943 Tox: 0C730E0156E96E6193A1445D413557FF5F277BA969A4EA20AC9352889D3B390E77651E816F0C ___ Dev mailing list Dev@lists.parabola.nu https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [Dev] Cleaning up [pcr]
as i see it there are a number of important differences between the PCR and the AUR - the most notable is that registration is not open to the general public as it is on the AUR - from what i understand the only way to get a package into the PCR is by pushing it directly to the parabola git instance just like every other package - this essentially makes every PCR maintainer an official parabola developer doesn't it? - is there any distinction regarding "official" and "community-maintained" packages? the "FAQ" page on the wiki says that if you want to get a PKGBUILD from AUR into parabola you need to ask a parabola hacker to put it there for you - the wording on the "Repositories" wiki page however seems to indicate something else: "the PCR contains packages maintained by trusted members of the Parabola community" as a side note - the description of the "community" repo talks spcifically abut arch and AUR which indicates that this "community" vs "PCR" distinction was not planned out thoroughly "Community contains packages from the AUR which gained enough votes to be adopted by an Arch Trusted User" i assume that for parabola this should instead read: "Community contains packages from the PCR which gained enough votes to be adopted by an Parabola Trusted User" are there indeed any "Parabola Trusted Users" who are not also "Official Parabola Hackers"? and if so, then how does their access to the main production repositories differ from the "Official Parabola Hackers" from the archwiki: > Sharing and maintaining packages > > Users can share PKGBUILDs using the Arch User Repository. It does not contain > any binary packages but allows users to upload PKGBUILDs that can be > downloaded > by others. These PKGBUILDs are completely unofficial and have not been > thoroughly > vetted, so they should be used at your own risk. secondly as i understand it, the PCR contains both PKGBUILDs and binary packages - i am assuming that the raeson for suggesting to remove them now is because they take up space - but the AUR is entirely PKGBUILDs which are just tiny text files that occupty only a negligable amount of space and therefore those could be kept available indefinitely - the only valid reason for removing them (other than freedom issues) would be if they are so old that will not build any more from the archwiki: > What is the difference between the Arch User Repository and the community > repository? > > The Arch User Repository is where all PKGBUILDs that users submit are stored, > and must be built manually with makepkg. When PKGBUILDs receive enough > community > interest and the support of a TU, they are moved into the community repository > (maintained by the TUs), where the binary packages can be installed with > pacman. so i am suggesting that the PCR stores only PKGBUILDs that are installable at any time but only with the makepkg tool not directly in binary form with pacman - and that anyone is allowed to publish these without having the any credentials on the main production repo - in this way those package can remain available even if they are not maintained by anyone (for as long as they do not become broken) then parabola can state that those are "unofficial" and possibly broken or unmaintained so use at you own risk signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dev mailing list Dev@lists.parabola.nu https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [Dev] Cleaning up [pcr]
El 10/07/17 a las 14:37, fauno escribió: > bill-auger writes: > >> this seems like a good time to ask why exactly does parabola need both >> "Community" and "PCR" - i undestand the distinction of "Community" and >> "AUR" in arch but in parabola these seem to be serving exactly the >> same purpose >> >> perhaps a solution here is to make the "PCR" be user-maintained like >> the AUR - then those orphaned packages can still be available using >> makepkg but will not be a burden on the main production machines > > this is exactly why we created [pcr] :P > > +1 to remove packages, sending a ping to maintainers before? Or better the same maintainers remove their own unmaintained pkgs, and if it's from someone who left, then go ahead :) > > > > > ___ > Dev mailing list > Dev@lists.parabola.nu > https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dev mailing list Dev@lists.parabola.nu https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [Dev] Cleaning up [pcr]
bill-auger writes: > this seems like a good time to ask why exactly does parabola need both > "Community" and "PCR" - i undestand the distinction of "Community" and > "AUR" in arch but in parabola these seem to be serving exactly the > same purpose > > perhaps a solution here is to make the "PCR" be user-maintained like > the AUR - then those orphaned packages can still be available using > makepkg but will not be a burden on the main production machines this is exactly why we created [pcr] :P +1 to remove packages, sending a ping to maintainers before? -- P) signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dev mailing list Dev@lists.parabola.nu https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [Dev] Cleaning up [pcr]
this seems like a good time to ask why exactly does parabola need both "Community" and "PCR" - i undestand the distinction of "Community" and "AUR" in arch but in parabola these seem to be serving exactly the same purpose perhaps a solution here is to make the "PCR" be user-maintained like the AUR - then those orphaned packages can still be available using makepkg but will not be a burden on the main production machines signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dev mailing list Dev@lists.parabola.nu https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev
Re: [Dev] Cleaning up [pcr]
+1 I think we could have a mechanism on [pcr] that packages that have not been rebuild in X amount of time are marked as candidates for removal. On Sun, Jul 09, 2017 at 07:15:20PM -0400, Megver83 wrote: > Hi, I'll go direct to the point. The [pcr] repository has many packages > that haven't been upgraded for ages, however, they are not marked as > outdated. Some of those unused packages are not even compiled (they are > only in the abslibre), I found a few when I began to adopt some packages > which even had MIPS in the "arch" array of their PKGBUILDs. If those are > ancient packages that have not been marked as outdated, it's likely > because no one installs them anymore, so I think that for that reason we > should remove those until someone requests it. > > In the free time that I don't have I will hunt some :D > -- > GPG: 0x227CA7C556B2BA78 > > ___ > Dev mailing list > Dev@lists.parabola.nu > https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev -- -- my GPG Public Key: https://files.grapentin.org/.gpg/public.key -- signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dev mailing list Dev@lists.parabola.nu https://lists.parabola.nu/mailman/listinfo/dev
