RE: Solrconfig in zookeeper

2013-09-12 Thread Uwe Schindler 
Solr already stores this configuration items in Zookeeper?

 

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From: Kranti Parisa [mailto:kranti.par...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 7:03 PM
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Subject: Solrconfig in zookeeper

 

As Solr 4.5 allows to store solr.xml in zookeeper, any ideas for supporting the 
same for other config files especially solrconfig.xml? so that we can change 
the relevance (boosting/scoring) settings, like qf, bf etc, for different 
request handlers on the fly?

 




Thanks  Regards,

Kranti K Parisa

http://www.linkedin.com/in/krantiparisa

Re: Solrconfig in zookeeper

2013-09-12 Thread Kranti Parisa 
Cool, thanks for the info. I am not using SolrCloud yet, but have plans and
this would be another motivation factor.

Thanks  Regards,
Kranti K Parisa
http://www.linkedin.com/in/krantiparisa



On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Shawn Heisey s...@elyograg.org wrote:

 On 9/12/2013 11:02 AM, Kranti Parisa wrote:
  As Solr 4.5 allows to store solr.xml in zookeeper, any ideas for
  supporting the same for other config files especially solrconfig.xml? so
  that we can change the relevance (boosting/scoring) settings, like qf,
  bf etc, for different request handlers on the fly?

 Using Zookeeper means that you are using SolrCloud.  SolrCloud has kept
 all core-level configuration (solrconfig.xml, schema.xml, etc) in
 zookeeper since before its public debut with version 4.0.  It already
 does exactly what you are asking.

 I think that eventually Solr will move to a point where zookeeper will
 be required, and basically there will be no SolrCloud distinction - if
 you're running Solr at all, then you're running SolrCloud.  Assuming
 that I'm right about that, I don't know if it will happen with 5.0 or
 6.0.  There's a lot of life left in Solr 4.x.

 Thanks,
 Shawn


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Re: Solrconfig in zookeeper

2013-09-12 Thread Shawn Heisey 
On 9/12/2013 11:02 AM, Kranti Parisa wrote:
 As Solr 4.5 allows to store solr.xml in zookeeper, any ideas for
 supporting the same for other config files especially solrconfig.xml? so
 that we can change the relevance (boosting/scoring) settings, like qf,
 bf etc, for different request handlers on the fly?

Using Zookeeper means that you are using SolrCloud.  SolrCloud has kept
all core-level configuration (solrconfig.xml, schema.xml, etc) in
zookeeper since before its public debut with version 4.0.  It already
does exactly what you are asking.

I think that eventually Solr will move to a point where zookeeper will
be required, and basically there will be no SolrCloud distinction - if
you're running Solr at all, then you're running SolrCloud.  Assuming
that I'm right about that, I don't know if it will happen with 5.0 or
6.0.  There's a lot of life left in Solr 4.x.

Thanks,
Shawn


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Re: Solrconfig in zookeeper

2013-09-12 Thread Upayavira 
Question is, what do you want to achieve? What benefit do you see
yourself getting from having configs in zookeeper?



There may be another way of getting those benefits.



Also note, whilst you can upload solrconfig.xml to Zookeeper as a part
of SolrCloud, you still need to reload a core to make the changes take
effect. Which is much the same as changing the file on disk and
reloading the core in a non-SolrCloud setup. So not sure what the
benefit might be that you're after.



Upayavira



On Thu, Sep 12, 2013, at 06:54 PM, Kranti Parisa wrote:

Cool, thanks for the info. I am not using SolrCloud yet, but have plans
and this would be another motivation factor.


Thanks  Regards,
Kranti K Parisa
[1]http://www.linkedin.com/in/krantiparisa



On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Shawn Heisey [2]s...@elyograg.org
wrote:

On 9/12/2013 11:02 AM, Kranti Parisa wrote:

 As Solr 4.5 allows to store solr.xml in zookeeper, any ideas for

 supporting the same for other config files especially solrconfig.xml?
so

 that we can change the relevance (boosting/scoring) settings, like
qf,

 bf etc, for different request handlers on the fly?



Using Zookeeper means that you are using SolrCloud.  SolrCloud has kept

all core-level configuration (solrconfig.xml, schema.xml, etc) in

zookeeper since before its public debut with version 4.0.  It already

does exactly what you are asking.



I think that eventually Solr will move to a point where zookeeper will

be required, and basically there will be no SolrCloud distinction -
if

you're running Solr at all, then you're running SolrCloud.  Assuming

that I'm right about that, I don't know if it will happen with 5.0 or

6.0.  There's a lot of life left in Solr 4.x.



Thanks,

Shawn





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Re: Solrconfig in zookeeper

2013-09-12 Thread Kranti Parisa 
The benefit is to update directly on the zookeeper and no need to touch the
file system.

And functional aspects is what I wrote in my first email, I want to change
the default boost values for specific request handlers and I don't want to
pass them via the Solr API. Because we have our own REST API which will
internally translated into Solr's API and in the process we read lot of
configs from solrconfig.xml

Thanks  Regards,
Kranti K Parisa
http://www.linkedin.com/in/krantiparisa



On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 3:14 PM, Upayavira u...@odoko.co.uk wrote:

 **
 Question is, what do you want to achieve? What benefit do you see yourself
 getting from having configs in zookeeper?

 There may be another way of getting those benefits.

 Also note, whilst you can upload solrconfig.xml to Zookeeper as a part of
 SolrCloud, you still need to reload a core to make the changes take effect.
 Which is much the same as changing the file on disk and reloading the core
 in a non-SolrCloud setup. So not sure what the benefit might be that you're
 after.

 Upayavira

 On Thu, Sep 12, 2013, at 06:54 PM, Kranti Parisa wrote:

 Cool, thanks for the info. I am not using SolrCloud yet, but have plans
 and this would be another motivation factor.

 Thanks  Regards,
 Kranti K Parisa
 http://www.linkedin.com/in/krantiparisa



 On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Shawn Heisey s...@elyograg.org wrote:

 On 9/12/2013 11:02 AM, Kranti Parisa wrote:
   As Solr 4.5 allows to store solr.xml in zookeeper, any ideas for
   supporting the same for other config files especially solrconfig.xml? so
   that we can change the relevance (boosting/scoring) settings, like qf,
   bf etc, for different request handlers on the fly?

 Using Zookeeper means that you are using SolrCloud.  SolrCloud has kept
  all core-level configuration (solrconfig.xml, schema.xml, etc) in
  zookeeper since before its public debut with version 4.0.  It already
  does exactly what you are asking.

  I think that eventually Solr will move to a point where zookeeper will
  be required, and basically there will be no SolrCloud distinction - if
  you're running Solr at all, then you're running SolrCloud.  Assuming
  that I'm right about that, I don't know if it will happen with 5.0 or
  6.0.  There's a lot of life left in Solr 4.x.

  Thanks,
  Shawn


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