Re: [WEBSITE] Adding +Indexes option to .htaccess

[Kay Schenk]

Hi all--
The option of adding a +Indexes option to a per directory .htaccess file
worked about one day for the QA test case scenario, and then it didn't.
Infra has made changes to our web VMs and this should work now. I had
already fixed the QA test case page with an actual index.html page when
I got this message, but other areas needing this -- like the art area --
could certainly try out the local .htaccess file approach.

Good luck!

On 03/27/2018 01:57 PM, Matthias Seidel wrote:
> +1 from me
> 
> This would solve the problem on this page:
> https://www.openoffice.org/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/
> 
> Regards,
> 
>    Matthias
> 
> 
> Am 27.03.2018 um 22:25 schrieb Kay Schenk:
>> I would like  to change our .htaccess file for www.openoffice.org
>> to allow for diretory contents listing when no "default" index.html
>> file is
>> available.
>>
>> This would be changing the first line of .htaccess from this:
>>
>> Options +Includes +MultiViews
>>
>> to this:
>>
>> Options +Includes +MultiViews +Indexes
>>
>> tested with my local setup and all good. This would allow for depositing
>> files in a given area without the need for an index.html file with
>> links to
>> the files.
>>
>> Yes? no? thoughts?
>>
> 
> 

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Re: [WEBSITE] Adding +Indexes option to .htaccess

[Kay Schenk]

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 2:06 PM, Matthias Seidel  wrote:

> Am 28.03.2018 um 20:54 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>
>> On Mar 28, 2018, at 11:51 AM, Marcus  wrote:
>>>
>>> Am 28.03.2018 um 08:34 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>
 I’m thinking you should make the change then we look on staging and
 revert if we don’t approve.
 It’s a quick test if inadvertently published it’s not a big deal.

>>> do you need the test to see how it looks like? I think we all can
>>> imagine how a directory looks like in a browser, right? ;-)
>>>
>> We can imagine it, but it would be good to see it once.
>>
>
> The standard directory view of an Apache HTTP Server looks quite "simple"
> but it can be tweaked a lot through the .htaccess file.
>
> I think we could place it in some selected areas. Worth a try!
>
> Regards, Matthias


​Yes, the per directory .htaccess file idea works for me. I've used it
before in servers outside of the ASF.
So, let's just got with that idea.​


​Thanks to all for listening and helping with this. :)
​



>
>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>> Marcus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 6:08 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 15:44 Marcus  wrote:
>>
>> Am 27.03.2018 um 22:25 schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>> I would like  to change our .htaccess file for www.openoffice.org
>>> to allow for diretory contents listing when no "default" index.html
>>> file
>>>
>> is
>>
>>> available.
>>>
>>> This would be changing the first line of .htaccess from this:
>>>
>>> Options +Includes +MultiViews
>>>
>>> to this:
>>>
>>> Options +Includes +MultiViews +Indexes
>>>
>>> tested with my local setup and all good. This would allow for
>>> depositing
>>> files in a given area without the need for an index.html file with
>>> links
>>>
>> to
>>
>>> the files.
>>>
>> I had no idea what "+Indexes" will do. With a quick search I found
>> this
>> [1].
>>
>> Yes? no? thoughts?
>>>
>> Are you suggesting to use this option as globally or for special
>> directories only?
>>
>> Yes, I was suggesting this and knew the consequences as described in
> the
> link you sent. Given that our website is accessible in its entirety
> through
> browsing svn, I didn't think enabling this globally would be so
> different
> from that.
>
>
> If globally then I don't think that we should present the raw files of
>> any directory when there is no index file available. This isn't simply
>> the way we should go.
>>
>> OK. What are your feelings on enabling this in selected directories
> when
> needed?
>
>
> [1]
>>
>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/15837822/what-is-the-
>> htaccess-options-indexes-for
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>
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Re: [WEBSITE] Adding +Indexes option to .htaccess

[Matthias Seidel]

Am 28.03.2018 um 20:54 schrieb Dave Fisher:

On Mar 28, 2018, at 11:51 AM, Marcus  wrote:

Am 28.03.2018 um 08:34 schrieb Dave Fisher:

I’m thinking you should make the change then we look on staging and revert if 
we don’t approve.
It’s a quick test if inadvertently published it’s not a big deal.

do you need the test to see how it looks like? I think we all can imagine how a 
directory looks like in a browser, right? ;-)

We can imagine it, but it would be good to see it once.


The standard directory view of an Apache HTTP Server looks quite 
"simple" but it can be tweaked a lot through the .htaccess file.


I think we could place it in some selected areas. Worth a try!

Regards, Matthias



Regards,
Dave


Marcus




On Mar 27, 2018, at 6:08 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:


On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 15:44 Marcus  wrote:


Am 27.03.2018 um 22:25 schrieb Kay Schenk:
I would like  to change our .htaccess file for www.openoffice.org
to allow for diretory contents listing when no "default" index.html file

is

available.

This would be changing the first line of .htaccess from this:

Options +Includes +MultiViews

to this:

Options +Includes +MultiViews +Indexes

tested with my local setup and all good. This would allow for depositing
files in a given area without the need for an index.html file with links

to

the files.

I had no idea what "+Indexes" will do. With a quick search I found this
[1].


Yes? no? thoughts?

Are you suggesting to use this option as globally or for special
directories only?


Yes, I was suggesting this and knew the consequences as described in the
link you sent. Given that our website is accessible in its entirety through
browsing svn, I didn't think enabling this globally would be so different
from that.



If globally then I don't think that we should present the raw files of
any directory when there is no index file available. This isn't simply
the way we should go.


OK. What are your feelings on enabling this in selected directories when
needed?



[1]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/15837822/what-is-the-htaccess-options-indexes-for

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Re: [WEBSITE] Adding +Indexes option to .htaccess

[Marcus]

Am 28.03.2018 um 08:29 schrieb Dave Fisher:

+1. While it would be nice format it and we probably could your approach is 
fine for now.

I’m curious but not enough yet to scratch.


OK, when you put it already into voting style then I've to say my -1 to 
open up the website globally.


But I can give you my +1 for selected, single directories. Kay has given 
an example (or better the real background ;-) ) in another mail.


Marcus




On Mar 27, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Matthias Seidel  wrote:

+1 from me

This would solve the problem on this page:
https://www.openoffice.org/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/

Regards,

Matthias



Am 27.03.2018 um 22:25 schrieb Kay Schenk:
I would like  to change our .htaccess file for www.openoffice.org
to allow for diretory contents listing when no "default" index.html file is
available.

This would be changing the first line of .htaccess from this:

Options +Includes +MultiViews

to this:

Options +Includes +MultiViews +Indexes

tested with my local setup and all good. This would allow for depositing
files in a given area without the need for an index.html file with links to
the files.

Yes? no? thoughts?



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Re: [WEBSITE] Adding +Indexes option to .htaccess

[Marcus]

Am 28.03.2018 um 19:11 schrieb Kay Schenk:

If no one else chimes in, I will do this later today. This will effect
areas like:

http://www.openoffice.org/promotions/

which has no index.html file. Of course, there exist many subdirectories
under the main website tree that have no "index.html" file and are
presumably linked in by something.

My current dilemma involves having to upload over 500 QA manual test cases
into an area. It would be far more convenient to just let them go to "list
mode" if you will rather than creating an index file for them, especially
since I'm fairly certain, we may not want to keep/use all of them.


ah, now it's clear. :-) OK it's a pain to create 500+ links in a HTML 
file which are also different to each other.


So, yes, here it can make sense to alow to browse the directory directly 
and it would be fine for me.


But I'm totally -1 to allow this for every directory and globally.

Yes, we are open source, but this doesn't mean we need to make 
everything open to everyone. When something is needed it's allowed to 
ask for it. ;-)


Marcus




On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 11:34 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:


I’m thinking you should make the change then we look on staging and revert
if we don’t approve.

It’s a quick test if inadvertently published it’s not a big deal.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 27, 2018, at 6:08 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:


On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 15:44 Marcus  wrote:


Am 27.03.2018 um 22:25 schrieb Kay Schenk:
I would like  to change our .htaccess file for www.openoffice.org
to allow for diretory contents listing when no "default" index.html

file

is

available.

This would be changing the first line of .htaccess from this:

Options +Includes +MultiViews

to this:

Options +Includes +MultiViews +Indexes

tested with my local setup and all good. This would allow for

depositing

files in a given area without the need for an index.html file with

links

to

the files.


I had no idea what "+Indexes" will do. With a quick search I found this
[1].


Yes? no? thoughts?


Are you suggesting to use this option as globally or for special
directories only?



Yes, I was suggesting this and knew the consequences as described in the
link you sent. Given that our website is accessible in its entirety

through

browsing svn, I didn't think enabling this globally would be so different
from that.



If globally then I don't think that we should present the raw files of
any directory when there is no index file available. This isn't simply
the way we should go.



OK. What are your feelings on enabling this in selected directories when
needed?



[1]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/15837822/what-is-

the-htaccess-options-indexes-for


Marcus



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Re: [WEBSITE] Adding +Indexes option to .htaccess

[Dave Fisher]

> On Mar 28, 2018, at 11:51 AM, Marcus  wrote:
> 
> Am 28.03.2018 um 08:34 schrieb Dave Fisher:
>> I’m thinking you should make the change then we look on staging and revert 
>> if we don’t approve.
>> It’s a quick test if inadvertently published it’s not a big deal.
> 
> do you need the test to see how it looks like? I think we all can imagine how 
> a directory looks like in a browser, right? ;-)

We can imagine it, but it would be good to see it once.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
>>> On Mar 27, 2018, at 6:08 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
>>> 
 On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 15:44 Marcus  wrote:
 
> Am 27.03.2018 um 22:25 schrieb Kay Schenk:
> I would like  to change our .htaccess file for www.openoffice.org
> to allow for diretory contents listing when no "default" index.html file
 is
> available.
> 
> This would be changing the first line of .htaccess from this:
> 
> Options +Includes +MultiViews
> 
> to this:
> 
> Options +Includes +MultiViews +Indexes
> 
> tested with my local setup and all good. This would allow for depositing
> files in a given area without the need for an index.html file with links
 to
> the files.
 
 I had no idea what "+Indexes" will do. With a quick search I found this
 [1].
 
> Yes? no? thoughts?
 
 Are you suggesting to use this option as globally or for special
 directories only?
 
>>> 
>>> Yes, I was suggesting this and knew the consequences as described in the
>>> link you sent. Given that our website is accessible in its entirety through
>>> browsing svn, I didn't think enabling this globally would be so different
>>> from that.
>>> 
>>> 
 If globally then I don't think that we should present the raw files of
 any directory when there is no index file available. This isn't simply
 the way we should go.
 
>>> 
>>> OK. What are your feelings on enabling this in selected directories when
>>> needed?
>>> 
>>> 
 [1]
 
 https://stackoverflow.com/questions/15837822/what-is-the-htaccess-options-indexes-for
 
 Marcus
> 
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Re: [WEBSITE] Adding +Indexes option to .htaccess

[Marcus]

Am 28.03.2018 um 08:34 schrieb Dave Fisher:

I’m thinking you should make the change then we look on staging and revert if 
we don’t approve.

It’s a quick test if inadvertently published it’s not a big deal.


do you need the test to see how it looks like? I think we all can 
imagine how a directory looks like in a browser, right? ;-)


Marcus




On Mar 27, 2018, at 6:08 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:


On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 15:44 Marcus  wrote:


Am 27.03.2018 um 22:25 schrieb Kay Schenk:
I would like  to change our .htaccess file for www.openoffice.org
to allow for diretory contents listing when no "default" index.html file

is

available.

This would be changing the first line of .htaccess from this:

Options +Includes +MultiViews

to this:

Options +Includes +MultiViews +Indexes

tested with my local setup and all good. This would allow for depositing
files in a given area without the need for an index.html file with links

to

the files.


I had no idea what "+Indexes" will do. With a quick search I found this
[1].


Yes? no? thoughts?


Are you suggesting to use this option as globally or for special
directories only?



Yes, I was suggesting this and knew the consequences as described in the
link you sent. Given that our website is accessible in its entirety through
browsing svn, I didn't think enabling this globally would be so different
from that.



If globally then I don't think that we should present the raw files of
any directory when there is no index file available. This isn't simply
the way we should go.



OK. What are your feelings on enabling this in selected directories when
needed?



[1]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/15837822/what-is-the-htaccess-options-indexes-for

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Re: [WEBSITE] Adding +Indexes option to .htaccess

[Marcus]

Am 28.03.2018 um 03:08 schrieb Kay Schenk:

On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 15:44 Marcus  wrote:


Am 27.03.2018 um 22:25 schrieb Kay Schenk:

I would like  to change our .htaccess file for www.openoffice.org
to allow for diretory contents listing when no "default" index.html file

is

available.

This would be changing the first line of .htaccess from this:

Options +Includes +MultiViews

to this:

Options +Includes +MultiViews +Indexes

tested with my local setup and all good. This would allow for depositing
files in a given area without the need for an index.html file with links

to

the files.


I had no idea what "+Indexes" will do. With a quick search I found this
[1].


Yes? no? thoughts?


Are you suggesting to use this option as globally or for special
directories only?



Yes, I was suggesting this and knew the consequences as described in the
link you sent. Given that our website is accessible in its entirety through
browsing svn, I didn't think enabling this globally would be so different
from that.



If globally then I don't think that we should present the raw files of
any directory when there is no index file available. This isn't simply
the way we should go.



OK. What are your feelings on enabling this in selected directories when
needed?


that would be OK. Even when I think it would be better to add an index 
file than to allow browsing the file directory.



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Re: [WEBSITE] Adding +Indexes option to .htaccess

[Kay Schenk]

Hi Dave --
If no one else chimes in, I will do this later today. This will effect
areas like:

http://www.openoffice.org/promotions/

which has no index.html file. Of course, there exist many subdirectories
under the main website tree that have no "index.html" file and are
presumably linked in by something.

My current dilemma involves having to upload over 500 QA manual test cases
into an area. It would be far more convenient to just let them go to "list
mode" if you will rather than creating an index file for them, especially
since I'm fairly certain, we may not want to keep/use all of them.


On Tue, Mar 27, 2018 at 11:34 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:

> I’m thinking you should make the change then we look on staging and revert
> if we don’t approve.
>
> It’s a quick test if inadvertently published it’s not a big deal.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 27, 2018, at 6:08 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 15:44 Marcus  wrote:
> >>
> >>> Am 27.03.2018 um 22:25 schrieb Kay Schenk:
> >>> I would like  to change our .htaccess file for www.openoffice.org
> >>> to allow for diretory contents listing when no "default" index.html
> file
> >> is
> >>> available.
> >>>
> >>> This would be changing the first line of .htaccess from this:
> >>>
> >>> Options +Includes +MultiViews
> >>>
> >>> to this:
> >>>
> >>> Options +Includes +MultiViews +Indexes
> >>>
> >>> tested with my local setup and all good. This would allow for
> depositing
> >>> files in a given area without the need for an index.html file with
> links
> >> to
> >>> the files.
> >>
> >> I had no idea what "+Indexes" will do. With a quick search I found this
> >> [1].
> >>
> >>> Yes? no? thoughts?
> >>
> >> Are you suggesting to use this option as globally or for special
> >> directories only?
> >>
> >
> > Yes, I was suggesting this and knew the consequences as described in the
> > link you sent. Given that our website is accessible in its entirety
> through
> > browsing svn, I didn't think enabling this globally would be so different
> > from that.
> >
> >
> >> If globally then I don't think that we should present the raw files of
> >> any directory when there is no index file available. This isn't simply
> >> the way we should go.
> >>
> >
> > OK. What are your feelings on enabling this in selected directories when
> > needed?
> >
> >
> >> [1]
> >>
> >> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/15837822/what-is-
> the-htaccess-options-indexes-for
> >>
> >> Marcus
> >>
> >>
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Re: [WEBSITE] Adding +Indexes option to .htaccess

[Dave Fisher]

I’m thinking you should make the change then we look on staging and revert if 
we don’t approve.

It’s a quick test if inadvertently published it’s not a big deal.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 27, 2018, at 6:08 PM, Kay Schenk  wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, Mar 27, 2018, 15:44 Marcus  wrote:
>> 
>>> Am 27.03.2018 um 22:25 schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>> I would like  to change our .htaccess file for www.openoffice.org
>>> to allow for diretory contents listing when no "default" index.html file
>> is
>>> available.
>>> 
>>> This would be changing the first line of .htaccess from this:
>>> 
>>> Options +Includes +MultiViews
>>> 
>>> to this:
>>> 
>>> Options +Includes +MultiViews +Indexes
>>> 
>>> tested with my local setup and all good. This would allow for depositing
>>> files in a given area without the need for an index.html file with links
>> to
>>> the files.
>> 
>> I had no idea what "+Indexes" will do. With a quick search I found this
>> [1].
>> 
>>> Yes? no? thoughts?
>> 
>> Are you suggesting to use this option as globally or for special
>> directories only?
>> 
> 
> Yes, I was suggesting this and knew the consequences as described in the
> link you sent. Given that our website is accessible in its entirety through
> browsing svn, I didn't think enabling this globally would be so different
> from that.
> 
> 
>> If globally then I don't think that we should present the raw files of
>> any directory when there is no index file available. This isn't simply
>> the way we should go.
>> 
> 
> OK. What are your feelings on enabling this in selected directories when
> needed?
> 
> 
>> [1]
>> 
>> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/15837822/what-is-the-htaccess-options-indexes-for
>> 
>> Marcus
>> 
>> 
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Re: [WEBSITE] Adding +Indexes option to .htaccess

[Dave Fisher]

+1. While it would be nice format it and we probably could your approach is 
fine for now.

I’m curious but not enough yet to scratch.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 27, 2018, at 1:57 PM, Matthias Seidel  
> wrote:
> 
> +1 from me
> 
> This would solve the problem on this page:
> https://www.openoffice.org/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/
> 
> Regards,
> 
>Matthias
> 
> 
>> Am 27.03.2018 um 22:25 schrieb Kay Schenk:
>> I would like  to change our .htaccess file for www.openoffice.org
>> to allow for diretory contents listing when no "default" index.html file is
>> available.
>> 
>> This would be changing the first line of .htaccess from this:
>> 
>> Options +Includes +MultiViews
>> 
>> to this:
>> 
>> Options +Includes +MultiViews +Indexes
>> 
>> tested with my local setup and all good. This would allow for depositing
>> files in a given area without the need for an index.html file with links to
>> the files.
>> 
>> Yes? no? thoughts?
>> 
> 
> 


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Re: [WEBSITE] Adding +Indexes option to .htaccess

[Marcus]

Am 27.03.2018 um 22:25 schrieb Kay Schenk:

I would like  to change our .htaccess file for www.openoffice.org
to allow for diretory contents listing when no "default" index.html file is
available.

This would be changing the first line of .htaccess from this:

Options +Includes +MultiViews

to this:

Options +Includes +MultiViews +Indexes

tested with my local setup and all good. This would allow for depositing
files in a given area without the need for an index.html file with links to
the files.


I had no idea what "+Indexes" will do. With a quick search I found this [1].


Yes? no? thoughts?


Are you suggesting to use this option as globally or for special 
directories only?


If globally then I don't think that we should present the raw files of 
any directory when there is no index file available. This isn't simply 
the way we should go.


[1] 
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/15837822/what-is-the-htaccess-options-indexes-for


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Re: [WEBSITE] Adding +Indexes option to .htaccess

[Matthias Seidel]

+1 from me

This would solve the problem on this page:
https://www.openoffice.org/marketing/art/galleries/logos/aoo-working/

Regards,

   Matthias


Am 27.03.2018 um 22:25 schrieb Kay Schenk:

I would like  to change our .htaccess file for www.openoffice.org
to allow for diretory contents listing when no "default" index.html file is
available.

This would be changing the first line of .htaccess from this:

Options +Includes +MultiViews

to this:

Options +Includes +MultiViews +Indexes

tested with my local setup and all good. This would allow for depositing
files in a given area without the need for an index.html file with links to
the files.

Yes? no? thoughts?






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[WEBSITE] Adding +Indexes option to .htaccess

[Kay Schenk]

I would like  to change our .htaccess file for www.openoffice.org
to allow for diretory contents listing when no "default" index.html file is
available.

This would be changing the first line of .htaccess from this:

Options +Includes +MultiViews

to this:

Options +Includes +MultiViews +Indexes

tested with my local setup and all good. This would allow for depositing
files in a given area without the need for an index.html file with links to
the files.

Yes? no? thoughts?

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