Re: [OSM-dev] Google Map Maker

2008-06-24 Thread Sjors Provoost
> On 23 Jun 2008, at 23:33, SteveC wrote: > >> http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=307 >> >> >> Google Want to be TeleAtlas >> Google have launched MapMaker, a kind of faux OpenStreetMap where they >> own all the data and you're only allowed to map in certain Freedom Of >> Speech Zones. I'm a little mor

Re: [OSM-dev] Google Map Maker

2008-06-24 Thread SteveC
On 24 Jun 2008, at 00:31, Sjors Provoost wrote: >> On 23 Jun 2008, at 23:33, SteveC wrote: >> >>> http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=307 >>> >>> >>> Google Want to be TeleAtlas >>> Google have launched MapMaker, a kind of faux OpenStreetMap where >>> they >>> own all the data and you're only allowed

Re: [OSM-dev] Google Map Maker

2008-06-24 Thread Richard Fairhurst
SteveC wrote: > http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=307 When I zoom into these places, I get "Imagery (c) 2008 Google". Not (c) FlyByAerialCo, or (c) ViablyUnnecessaryTechnoToys, or any of that. Just (c) Google. Looks like they bought it. So there's no reason they can't give us derivation rights -

Re: [OSM-dev] Google Map Maker

2008-06-24 Thread Tom Hughes
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SteveC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Google have launched MapMaker, a kind of faux OpenStreetMap where they > own all the data and you’re only allowed to map in certain Freedom Of > Speech Zones. Interesting choice of areas though - includes Cyprus and Pa

[OSM-dev] New Daily Diff Files

2008-06-24 Thread Brett Henderson
Hi All, Apologies for cross-posting to two lists but discussions have been split across both lists. Please reply to the dev list. There are now some new daily diff files available on the planet server that address some issues with the existing daily diff files. These new files are produced u

Re: [OSM-dev] Google Map Maker

2008-06-24 Thread David Sheldon
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 08:42:56AM +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: > Interesting choice of areas though - includes Cyprus and Pakistan > which is likely to throw them straight into the middle of a couple of > edit wars. I wouldn't be surprised if that was why they did it. Maybe they want to test their mo

Re: [OSM-dev] Google Map Maker

2008-06-24 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Sjors Provoost wrote: >Sent: 24 June 2008 8:32 AM >To: Openstreetmap Dev list >Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Google Map Maker > >> On 23 Jun 2008, at 23:33, SteveC wrote: >> >>> http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=307 >>> >>> >>> Google Want to be TeleAtlas >>> Google have launched MapMaker, a kind of faux Open

Re: [OSM-dev] Google Map Maker

2008-06-24 Thread Sjors Provoost
Andy wrote: >>In short, if Google and the OSM community are open for it, there is >>huge potential for collaboration. Google can provide the OpenStreetMap >>community with the massive scalable infrastructure they need and >>OpenStreetMap can provide Google with a community, map making >>experience

Re: [OSM-dev] mod_tile meta-tiling looses png transparency

2008-06-24 Thread mandrake
Quoting Jon Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Mon, 2008-06-23 at 22:09 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I'm having a problem with mod_tile. I'm using it together with Mapnik >> to render an overlay map, so I need a transparent background in tiles. >> Mapnik does this just fine by s

Re: [OSM-dev] Google Map Maker

2008-06-24 Thread David Sheldon
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 09:40:45AM +0100, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: > The problem is that Google haven't come and spoken to OSMF at all. There has > been complete silence on this. I only see the shark swimming in circles > here, it wants the meat and it's going to use all its power

[OSM-dev] New version 0.1.3 of Ruby OSMLib with improved XML parser support

2008-06-24 Thread Jochen Topf
I have just released version 0.1.3 of the Ruby OSM library. The most important change is that the XML parsing code has been restructured to support multiple parsers. Many people had problems with the Libxml C-based parser. So the new code uses the Ruby standard REXML parser by default. The Libxml o

[OSM-dev] XML Schema (.xsd) for OSM-Protocol 0.5 and DTD question

2008-06-24 Thread Dominik Spies
Hi, is there a offical XML-Schema for the OSM-Protocol V0.5? It's not very difficult to translate this but if somebody has done it already.. Abd I have a question regarding this line in the DTD: why tag*,nd,tag*,nd,(tag|nd)* ? I think this means: zero to unlimited tag-elements, exaclty one nd

Re: [OSM-dev] XML Schema (.xsd) for OSM-Protocol 0.5 and DTD question

2008-06-24 Thread Stefan de Konink
Dominik Spies schreef: > is there a offical XML-Schema for the OSM-Protocol V0.5? > It's not very difficult to translate this but if somebody has done it > already.. > > Abd I have a question regarding this line in the DTD: > > > > why tag*,nd,tag*,nd,(tag|nd)* ? > > I think this means: zero

Re: [OSM-dev] XML Schema (.xsd) for OSM-Protocol 0.5 and DTD question

2008-06-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, > wouldn't be enough? No, because this would 1. allow ways with one node which we don't want 2. require tags to be specified BEFORE the nodes which isn't a requirement Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## N49°00'09" E008°23'33" ___

Re: [OSM-dev] XML Schema (.xsd) for OSM-Protocol 0.5 and DTD question

2008-06-24 Thread Dominik Spies
>> wouldn't be enough? > > No, because this would > > 1. allow ways with one node which we don't want > 2. require tags to be specified BEFORE the nodes which isn't a requirement now I got it. I'm not an expoert in DTD, simply didn't catch the fact that this list is ordered. In cleartext, this m

Re: [OSM-dev] XML Schema (.xsd) for OSM-Protocol 0.5 and DTD question

2008-06-24 Thread Stefan de Konink
Dominik Spies schreef: > @Stefan > > is there any output of your effort you may share? http://kinkrsoftware.nl/contrib/osm/osm-0.5.xsd I hope it can give you a starting point, it seems not to be passing by the validator yet... Stefan ___ dev mailin

Re: [OSM-dev] Google Map Maker

2008-06-24 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, in Gemany we have been using the slogan "Wir spielen mit offenen Karten" for OSM. "Mit offenen Karten spielen" is a figure of speech that literally means "playing with open cards", meaning playing cards, i.e. "having nothing to hide". The German word for maps is the same as for car

Re: [OSM-dev] XML Schema (.xsd) for OSM-Protocol 0.5 and DTD question

2008-06-24 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Dominik Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > is there a offical XML-Schema for the OSM-Protocol V0.5? > It's not very difficult to translate this but if somebody has done it > already.. You clearly missed: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OSM_Protocol

Re: [OSM-dev] Google Map Maker

2008-06-24 Thread Tim Waters (chippy)
I bet they trialled this tech when making their maps in India about a year ago: "We've done about 50 cities now, in their completeness, with driving directions and everything - completely done by having locals use some software we haven't released publicly to draw their city on top of our photo im

Re: [OSM-dev] Google Map Maker

2008-06-24 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 5:13 PM, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >in Gemany we have been using the slogan "Wir spielen mit offenen > Karten" for OSM. "Mit offenen Karten spielen" is a figure of speech > that literally means "playing with open cards", meaning playing > cards, i.e. "havi

[OSM-dev] possible GIS datasource for portland, or, usa

2008-06-24 Thread Adam Layne
I called the city of Portland today to inquire about using the maps on partlandmaps.com as a visual reference for mapping, since the data is public. In the course of my investigation I got the impression that raw GIS data of the Portland Metropolitan area might be available from Metro ( http://www.

[OSM-dev] WMS

2008-06-24 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega
Hi all, First of all, I want to say that WMS sucks. The 100-page spec sucks, the efficiency sucks. That said, I just committed to SVN a set of hacks I've come to call "OSM WMS". Why? Long story short, this will allow me to promote OSM to GIS people. Or, as FakeSteveC would say, Arctards. H

Re: [OSM-dev] WMS

2008-06-24 Thread Stefan de Konink
Iván Sánchez Ortega schreef: > However, the current implementation has the potential of pounding the API > down > to its knees (no caching of any kind). In fact, I think it has more bugs than > features. > > So, I'd like to know if you think it would be a good idea to do load > balancing > be