Roland Olbricht wrote:
the boundary in OSM is maybe suboptimal structured. What is the best option?
Discuss things first, others might not think of it as suboptimal as you
think.
1) Leave the data as it is and use precautions in the software using it
2) Silently correct the data by running an
In detail, there are
a) the left:country and right:country attributes in the boundary
ways. b) the nodes with tag k=place v=country which contain more
information on a country.
I don't see problems with both issues above. Everything in our db is
sensitive to typos, so why is this more
Hi,
i just discovered that osmosis was not able to apply the hourly osc file
starting 2008-10-29T20:00:00Z - It failed with:
2008-10-31 11:09:52 CET ERROR: smallint out of range
2008-10-31 11:09:52 CET STATEMENT: INSERT INTO way_nodes (way_id, node_id,
sequence_id) VALUES ($1, $2, $3)
Is
On Thu, October 30, 2008 23:11, Roland Olbricht wrote:
way passes a point where three countries meet, there is no way to note the
Standard solution: split the border :-)
A possible solution would be to have instead of b) a relation which
contains all the tags of b) and as members all ways
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:17:16AM +0100, Florian Lohoff wrote:
Hi,
i just discovered that osmosis was not able to apply the hourly osc file
starting 2008-10-29T20:00:00Z - It failed with:
2008-10-31 11:09:52 CET ERROR: smallint out of range
2008-10-31 11:09:52 CET STATEMENT: INSERT INTO
Hi,
2008/10/31 Harald Kucharek [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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Datum: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:11:46 +
Von: Brian Quinion [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An: Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi,
Florian Lohoff wrote:
Its 2^15 because it signed - and yes - somebody managed to get abovE:
This definitely has to stop. We need to (a) find all ways with more than
a few thousand nodes and break them down, and (b) educate users that
they shouldn't do such evil things. Imagine the poor
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Any comments?
You are now basically working around the actual problem. Allowing partial
ways in the editors for the current bbox. I think hacking and breaking
ways is bad, duplicate information, missing tags upon edit etc. I think
storing ways with
On 31 Oct 2008, at 10:44, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
Florian Lohoff wrote:
Its 2^15 because it signed - and yes - somebody managed to get abovE:
This definitely has to stop. We need to (a) find all ways with more
than
a few thousand nodes and break them down, and (b) educate users that
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
Florian Lohoff wrote:
Its 2^15 because it signed - and yes - somebody managed to get abovE:
This definitely has to stop. We need to (a) find all ways with more than
a few thousand nodes and break them down, and (b)
Dave Stubbs wrote:
I'm all for an API hard limit of 1000 nodes in a way. That wouldn't
impact any normal stuff, but would put a stop to megaways pretty
quickly without the need for a re-education programme :-)
+1.
I've been thinking of disabling access to ways of 1000 nodes in
Potlatch
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Stefan de Konink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Any comments?
You are now basically working around the actual problem. Allowing partial
ways in the editors for the current bbox. I think hacking and breaking
ways is bad,
Dave Stubbs wrote:
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Stefan de Konink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Any comments?
You are now basically working around the actual problem. Allowing partial
ways in the editors for the current bbox. I think hacking and
Original-Nachricht
Datum: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 08:28:52 +0100
Von: Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: Re: [josm-dev] JOSM extension for orthogonalizing ways
Hi,
Harald Kucharek wrote:
Now, my question is: Is there
Frederik Ramm wrote:
(And what's more, once someone creates a way with 50.001 nodes, no
bounding box containing even one node of that way will be downloadable
through the API.)
I think it will be actually - the 5 node limit only applies to the
initial selection of nodes I think and
On 31 Oct 2008, at 11:51, Stefan de Konink wrote:
Dave Stubbs wrote:
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:02 AM, Stefan de Konink
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 31 Oct 2008, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Any comments?
You are now basically working around the actual problem. Allowing
partial
ways in the
Stefan de Konink wrote:
In this case I address all your and my problems;
- common tags are not duplicated
- partial ways are smaller
- relations become in essence ordered linestrings, with the
possibility
to add tags
But unfortunately not problem 4
- someone to actually implement it
Stefan de Konink wrote:
I have already created a server that stores in nodes/relations :)
Yeah, I know you have, but you might have noticed we don't actually
have editor authors coming out of our ears.
Richard
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Richard Fairhurst wrote:
Stefan de Konink wrote:
I have already created a server that stores in nodes/relations :)
Yeah, I know you have, but you might have noticed we don't actually
have editor authors coming out of our ears.
Thats why legacy support is important :) But again, if you
Andy Allan wrote:
In case of a partial checkout you would only
fetch the subtrees (relations) that are in your bbox and their parent.
The one subtree has 17M nodes, and I get the parent relation with the
coastline tags too.
No no! bbox the subtree, so you will not get 17M nodes, but only
A spam bot has managed to add it's junk into the bug tracker:
http://josm.openstreetmap.de/ticket/1676#comment:3
How to delete the spam (or should I better ask who can do it)?
GeoJ
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That's why it was so surprising to see the imported USA and California
borders in OSM running along the beach - surely we want to move them
out to sea?
Currently the borders are marked with the 2 countries - do we need to
allow region:left=international if it's a border with the ocean
instead of
Stefan,
Having a binary XML format is another approach. And would again
significantly reduce the communication delay between client and api.
All your comments seem to assume that we have an arbitrary amount of
time an manpower to change the API plus all clients. This is a
misconception, and
Hi,
Dave Stubbs wrote:
I'm all for an API hard limit of 1000 nodes in a way. That wouldn't
impact any normal stuff, but would put a stop to megaways pretty
quickly without the need for a re-education programme :-)
Fine with me.
I think this can (and should) be worked on at different levels.
El Viernes, 31 de Octubre de 2008, Ben Supnik escribió:
Now I am looking at the problem of error detection. [...] it's a long cycle.
How long?
- Somehow add visual feedback to the final map renders to validate user
data. Since our data is appropriate to aeronautical maps this wouldn't
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Stefan de Konink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matt Amos wrote:
would you represent a Y-shaped road as three relations, then? one for
the left fork, one for the right stem as a way-relation, then another
to group them together?
Yes, but with role='independent'.
Thanks everyone for the pointers - I'll have a look at these existing
facilities...for the cycle, we dont' know yet, could be weeks, months, a
year? Long enough that the author of the erroneous data may have moved
on to other projects. :-(
cheers
Ben
Iván Sánchez Ortega wrote:
El Viernes,
El Viernes, 31 de Octubre de 2008, Ben Supnik escribió:
for the cycle, we dont' know yet, could be weeks, months, a
year? Long enough that the author of the erroneous data may have moved
on to other projects. :-(
You should try to keep the cycle as short as one week.
In other words, set up
Matt Amos wrote:
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:19 PM, Stefan de Konink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Matt Amos wrote:
would you represent a Y-shaped road as three relations, then? one for
the left fork, one for the right stem as a way-relation, then another
to group them together?
Yes, but with
2008/10/31 Frederik Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi,
Brian Quinion wrote:
This is my
big problem with the current implementation - it creates a rectangle
in the current projection with the result that (as you go further
north / south) the rectangle become more and more misaligned to
physical
Ben Supnik wrote:
- Put validation features into the existing editors (JOSM), etc. Is
there existing infrastructure for this? For example, I saw that one
site culls the whole-earth export for unofficial tags...does JOSM know
the approved schema and tell users when they haven't done what
Hi,
Joachim Zobel wrote:
There is also the option to add 2 dimensional topology to the data
model. This means to that the model has areas that have references to
ways as boundaries. This way two areas can have a common boundary.
I'm definitely in favour of creating boundaries by having
Harald Kucharek schrieb:
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Almost neighbours. I live Südstadt, near Werderplatz.
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^^
Anyone needs to run the
That's why it was so surprising to see the imported USA and California
borders in OSM running along the beach - surely we want to move them
out to sea?
It's just additional data. So a user with sound knowledge of the U.S. border
regulation might simply correct or delete the robot generated
On Fri, October 31, 2008 18:07, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Hi,
Joachim Zobel wrote:
There is also the option to add 2 dimensional topology to the data
model. This means to that the model has areas that have references to
ways as boundaries. This way two areas can have a common boundary.
I'm
On Friday 31 October 2008 20:06:17 Hakan Tandogan wrote:
Do you have some relation IDs for me to look at? I don't have a planet
extract or even a box with grep on it at the moment :-(
Three Dutch provinces:
47772
47667
47654
The three municipalities that meet at the three provinces point:
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Marcin Floryan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not sure whether i have josm-translations.jar (or whatever it is
called), as it is not listed amongst plugins or as a seperate download.
Possibly listing available translations could help.
The way it is solved now
Hi,
Brian Quinion wrote:
This is my
big problem with the current implementation - it creates a rectangle
in the current projection with the result that (as you go further
north / south) the rectangle become more and more misaligned to
physical reality.
If you use the Mercator projection
On 31 Oct 2008, at 07:05, Stefan Baebler wrote:
2008/10/30 Женя [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
About the Launchpad usage - I don't really think there is much use
of the existing translation suggestions - those are limited to
File, Tools and Save as... :)
Plus, LP works really slow over HTTPS for
This is my
big problem with the current implementation - it creates a rectangle
in the current projection with the result that (as you go further
north / south) the rectangle become more and more misaligned to
physical reality.
If you use the Mercator projection that problem should be less
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