Re: [OSM-dev] Automatic generation of short_name / alt_name where missing and obvious
On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 07:15:38PM +0100, Roland Olbricht via dev wrote: > > > Is there some existing code/library/tool for generating obvious > > > short_name / alt_name from other tagged data? > > > > Specifically for shortened names, this list of common abbreviations > > could help: https://wiki.osm.org/Name_finder:Abbreviations > > Thank you for the pointer. At least for German (and for French as far as > I can judge) please take it with a grain of salt: > - The by far fast common practices to shorten names are to resort to > KFZ-Kennzeichen (district codes), i.e. "K-Süd" is the short_name for > "Köln-Süd" > - In 95% of Germany (everywhere except Berlin), the abbreviaton of > "Bahnhof" is "Bf" > - the suffix "straße" resp. "Straße" is shortened to "str." resp. > "Str.", everything else is uncommon > - French street names are shortened by entirely removing the generic > parts, i.e. "Place Victor Hugo" has short_name "Victor Hugo" ... unless they are shortened by removing the first name. Read https://github.com/osm-search/Nominatim/issues/679 for a couple of fun examples. Three more libraries that collect lists of abbreviations: https://github.com/openvenues/libpostal/tree/master/resources/dictionaries https://github.com/OpenCageData/address-formatting/tree/master/conf/abbreviations https://github.com/mapbox/geocoder-abbreviations Kind regards Sarah ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Automatic generation of short_name / alt_name where missing and obvious
Hi, On Sat, 21 Nov 2020 at 15:24, Mateusz Konieczny via dev wrote: > Is there some existing code/library/tool for generating obvious > short_name / alt_name from other tagged data? https://github.com/balrog-kun/shrtnms is a very basic version I've been using at the osm2pgsql stage to add short names when not in the data. The renderer prefers name over short_name over shortest_name (West Fulton Street -> W Fulton St -> Fulton) Best regards ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Automatic generation of short_name / alt_name where missing and obvious
It is not a proposal for an automatic edit, it is intended as an opposite - so I will be able to generate names locally and will have no need to add them to OSM database. I am aware of https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct and anyway that this thread would not be sufficient to cover this requirements Nov 21, 2020, 17:02 by si...@poole.ch: > > By definition if you can generate it mechanically, you shouldn't be > adding it to OSM. > > Am 21.11.2020 um 15:20 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via dev: > >> Is there some existing code/library/tool for generatingobvious >> short_name / alt_name from other tagged data? >> >> >> I am implementing it right now for one of my programs >> and I would prefer help in existing project rather thanimplement yet >> another >> version of the same. >> >> ___dev mailing list>> >> dev@openstreetmap.org>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev >> ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Automatic generation of short_name / alt_name where missing and obvious
Is there some existing code/library/tool for generating obvious short_name / alt_name from other tagged data? Specifically for shortened names, this list of common abbreviations could help: https://wiki.osm.org/Name_finder:Abbreviations Thank you for the pointer. At least for German (and for French as far as I can judge) please take it with a grain of salt: - The by far fast common practices to shorten names are to resort to KFZ-Kennzeichen (district codes), i.e. "K-Süd" is the short_name for "Köln-Süd" - In 95% of Germany (everywhere except Berlin), the abbreviaton of "Bahnhof" is "Bf" - the suffix "straße" resp. "Straße" is shortened to "str." resp. "Str.", everything else is uncommon - French street names are shortened by entirely removing the generic parts, i.e. "Place Victor Hugo" has short_name "Victor Hugo" I would not be surprised if the other languages have regional or personal biases, too. Cheers, Roland ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Automatic generation of short_name / alt_name where missing and obvious
On 21.11.20 15:20, Mateusz Konieczny via dev wrote: > Is there some existing code/library/tool for generating obvious > short_name / alt_name from other tagged data? Specifically for shortened names, this list of common abbreviations could help: https://wiki.osm.org/Name_finder:Abbreviations ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Automatic generation of short_name / alt_name where missing and obvious
By definition if you can generate it mechanically, you shouldn't be adding it to OSM. Am 21.11.2020 um 15:20 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via dev: Is there some existing code/library/tool for generating obvious short_name / alt_name from other tagged data? I am implementing it right now for one of my programs and I would prefer help in existing project rather than implement yet another version of the same. ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev OpenPGP_0x4721711092E282EA.asc Description: application/pgp-keys OpenPGP_signature Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Automatic generation of short_name / alt_name where missing and obvious
Hello, For Russian, English, Ukraininan there is https://github.com/AMDmi3/streetmangler On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 5:23 PM Mateusz Konieczny via dev < dev@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > Is there some existing code/library/tool for generating obvious > short_name / alt_name from other tagged data? > > > I am implementing it right now for one of my programs > and I would prefer help in existing project rather than implement yet > another > version of the same. > ___ > dev mailing list > dev@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev > -- Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski OSM BY Team - http://openstreetmap.by/ ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
