Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets
I'm currently setting up such a service, may be already working tonight. I just wanted to give this a try. Is this already working? What do I use for diffserver? I announced it in a different Post. Take a look here: http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2010-March/019106.html Peter ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets
Hi Peter, The heavies task is 1. Maybe we could set up a database for this task.. Peter I rather liked Brett's earlier suggestion to have this solved on the diff server itself. So you could wget http://diffserver/state/minute/20100301_00;, and the web service would find the right state file and return it to you. I'm currently setting up such a service, may be already working tonight. I just wanted to give this a try. Is this already working? What do I use for diffserver? Thanks, Andreas ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
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Hi all, I just noticed, that the minute diffs are not here anymore. My tool http://datenkueche.com/osmlive did use this files. Is there a possibility to find a file if I have only the time? For the old system I used: $delta=(int) $_GET['delta']; $time1=time()-7200-360 -$delta; $time2=time()-7200-300 -$delta; $time3=time()-7200-420 -$delta; $timestring1=date(YmdHi,$time1); $timestring2=date(YmdHi,$time2); $timestring3=date(YmdHi,$time3); $filename= $timestring1.-.$timestring2..osc.gz; -- Any idea how to do that with the new system? I would be interested inthat as well, ideally a file that is generated every hour with a fixed named scheme we can easily track for. Can this be reactivated? Why has it been disabled after all? Thanks, Andreas ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets
The heavies task is 1. Maybe we could set up a database for this task.. Peter I rather liked Brett's earlier suggestion to have this solved on the diff server itself. So you could wget http://diffserver/state/minute/20100301_00;, and the web service would find the right state file and return it to you. -- Lennard ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets
Lennard schrieb: The heavies task is 1. Maybe we could set up a database for this task.. Peter I rather liked Brett's earlier suggestion to have this solved on the diff server itself. So you could wget http://diffserver/state/minute/20100301_00;, and the web service would find the right state file and return it to you. I'm currently setting up such a service, may be already working tonight. Peter ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets
hi I would be interested in that as well, ideally a file that is generated every hour with a fixed named scheme we can easily track for. Can this be reactivated? Why has it been disabled after all? I would like to have that live. At: https://world.waze.com/livemap/ they have a live ticker. All the edits are shown there. If all the changesets would go to an xmpp stream, it would be a really easy to such a liveticker for osm. xmpp is easy and all could be done be sending to a tcp socket: message to =osmchanges...@xmppserver.somewhere.org type=groupchat changeset/changeset /message Bernhard ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 24-03-10 13:02, Bernhard zwischenbrugger schreef: If all the changesets would go to an xmpp stream, it would be a really easy to such a liveticker for osm. There was a site in the past where this was visible. I have created an OpenLayers implementation to visualize it. So even with what is publish now, not a line of XMPP is required to do so. Stefan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEAREKAAYFAkuqAYQACgkQYH1+F2Rqwn31OQCeMl+vRX+TtiqnwFetJM1HBAAd NKgAn1q2EkiwsgL4pvxug1PSEs3O8VRN =ozh+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets
hi If all the changesets would go to an xmpp stream, it would be a really easy to such a liveticker for osm. There was a site in the past where this was visible. I have created an OpenLayers implementation to visualize it. So even with what is publish now, not a line of XMPP is required to do so. I did the osmlive based on minutely Changesets. The best result was about 5 minutes delay. On a webbrowser the xmpp lib strophe offers a nice BOSH connection and no polling is needed. http://code.stanziq.com/strophe/ A 5 second delay could be done without problem. 5 seconds is faster than 5 minutes. Maybe you think 5 minutes are no problem. But think about an interface where you see live what other people are doing. The next step could be to implement a fast human to human communication. If you see somebody editing something in a strange way, you could give help on how to do it better. Bernhard ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
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-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Op 24-03-10 13:46, Bernhard zwischenbrugger schreef: Maybe you think 5 minutes are no problem. I based it on the minutely stuff. And as I have pointed out to some other people already. This 'yet another glue layer in database replication' still doesn't explore the fact that there are existing (normal) master/slave replication scenarios that clearly are not exploited yet. (Wheel is already invented, its around.) Stefan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.14 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEAREKAAYFAkuqDJEACgkQYH1+F2Rqwn0vWwCfc60UWTuJpeIPdVyp8o0W2/VL 6PQAn2kNxhvP6xEFYxjNBMwZWgq1H3Rx =nIHt -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets
On 01/-10/-28163 08:59 PM, Bernhard zwischenbrugger wrote: hi If all the changesets would go to an xmpp stream, it would be a really easy to such a liveticker for osm. There was a site in the past where this was visible. I have created an OpenLayers implementation to visualize it. So even with what is publish now, not a line of XMPP is required to do so. I did the osmlive based on minutely Changesets. The best result was about 5 minutes delay. On a webbrowser the xmpp lib strophe offers a nice BOSH connection and no polling is needed. http://code.stanziq.com/strophe/ A 5 second delay could be done without problem. 5 seconds is faster than 5 minutes. Maybe you think 5 minutes are no problem. But think about an interface where you see live what other people are doing. The next step could be to implement a fast human to human communication. If you see somebody editing something in a strange way, you could give help on how to do it better. With LiveEditMapViewerJ[1,2], which was heavily modeled after osmlive, can sort of do that. You can zoom into edits (currently only node changes) that look odd, shift click on one of the nodes to get to the OSM-Browse-page for that node, with the details of the changeset and editor and contact the user through the osm messaging system. So far, I have thought the replicate diffs work really well for that and are probably even simpler than the old minutely diffs. You simply get the state.txt, which contains the most recent sequence number, and then you just count up by one every time you successfully retrieve the corresponding diff file. With the replicate diffs, the delay is now down to normally at max a minute and on average probably more like 30 seconds delay. It wouldn't be hard to move the replicate diffs to be generated every 30 seconds, so on average delays of only 15 seconds. Can you give examples for when that would not be enough? Given that the standard map call from the api often takes more than 30 seconds to complete, you will partly not get any more up to date data from the live API either. Kai Bernhard [1] http://gpsmid.sourceforge.net/misc/LiveEditMapViewerJ.jar [2] http://trac.openstreetmap.org/browser/applications/utils/LiveEditMapViewer ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets
hi I just noticed, that the minute diffs are not here anymore. My tool http://datenkueche.com/osmlive did use this files. Is there a possibility to find a file if I have only the time? For the old system I used: $delta=(int) $_GET['delta']; $time1=time()-7200-360 -$delta; $time2=time()-7200-300 -$delta; $time3=time()-7200-420 -$delta; $timestring1=date(YmdHi,$time1); $timestring2=date(YmdHi,$time2); $timestring3=date(YmdHi,$time3); $filename= $timestring1.-.$timestring2..osc.gz; -- Any idea how to do that with the new system? Bernhard Are there any objections to me disabling the old minute and hourly changesets and deleting their files from the planet server? http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute/ http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute-slow/ http://planet.openstreetmap.org/hourly/ They are replaced by the (hopefully) reliable transaction based replication changesets. http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute-replicate/ http://planet.openstreetmap.org/hour-replicate/ I haven't heard any complaints about the replication changesets so I'm assuming they're working well. I'll leave the daily changesets running for now because they are running with a much longer delay and shouldn't miss data. I'm not aware of anybody still using the minute diffs. I'll disable them early in the new year. I won't delete the files straight away so they can be re-enabled if somebody suddenly screams. I hope to disable the hour diffs around the same time but will wait until Florian has moved off them first. Brett ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets
On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 5:12 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: On 30 January 2010 15:03, Brett Henderson br...@bretth.com wrote: Yes, the error on that site seems to indicate an error with the minute changesets. The minute changesets were disabled over three weeks ago. But they were using a broken mechanism so I don't want to re-enable them. And this proved my point, nothing would have shown up as an error until you removed them :) Um, I'm not sure I understand your point. I followed your advice 3 weeks ago and renamed the directories to force breakages straight away. I haven't touched anything recently, the renamed directories still exist as I left them 3 weeks ago. I heard nothing in the days following that change, and only now has this new error popped up. Brett ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
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On 30 January 2010 21:54, Brett Henderson br...@bretth.com wrote: Um, I'm not sure I understand your point. I followed your advice 3 weeks ago and renamed the directories to force breakages straight away. I haven't touched anything recently, the renamed directories still exist as I left them 3 weeks ago. I heard nothing in the days following that change, and only now has this new error popped up. I'm surprised stuff didn't come up sooner too, but yea, unless you broke stuff which you did, unless people found out they wouldn't have noticed most likely... ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
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I'm surprised stuff didn't come up sooner too, but yea, unless you broke stuff which you did, unless people found out they wouldn't have noticed most likely... If the maintainer of that site didn't switch over to the replicate diffs in the last months and hasn't fixed the site in the last month that it's been non-functional, then it's hardly Brett's fault. The old diffs were broken, it was wise to force people to the new method. It's not like they weren't given plenty of time to make the switch. I'd be interested in fixing the code for that site if anyone knows where the source can be obtained. I have server space to host it as well. -Jeremy ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets
Are there any objections to me disabling the old minute and hourly changesets and deleting their files from the planet server? I think that this broke OSM-Live web site: http://datenkueche.com/osmlive/ Bye, Stefano ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
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On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Stefano Salvador stefano.salva...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any objections to me disabling the old minute and hourly changesets and deleting their files from the planet server? I think that this broke OSM-Live web site: http://datenkueche.com/osmlive/ That looks like a cool site. Is the code to generate the map available anywhere? -Jeremy ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
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On Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 6:21 AM, Stefano Salvador stefano.salva...@gmail.com wrote: Are there any objections to me disabling the old minute and hourly changesets and deleting their files from the planet server? I think that this broke OSM-Live web site: http://datenkueche.com/osmlive/ Yes, the error on that site seems to indicate an error with the minute changesets. The minute changesets were disabled over three weeks ago. But they were using a broken mechanism so I don't want to re-enable them. Can the OSM-Live site switch over to the minute-replicate changes instead? Brett ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
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On 30 January 2010 15:03, Brett Henderson br...@bretth.com wrote: Yes, the error on that site seems to indicate an error with the minute changesets. The minute changesets were disabled over three weeks ago. But they were using a broken mechanism so I don't want to re-enable them. And this proved my point, nothing would have shown up as an error until you removed them :) ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets
On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 12:03:27PM +1100, Brett Henderson wrote: I haven't heard anything but I've disabled the hourly diffs as well. They can be re-enabled if necessary. Thanks - i hadnt switched yet - trying now. As per the minute and minute-slow diffs, I'll delete these if nobody yells. I'll give it at least a few days though. How do i init the --rri task (--rrii) to a specific date/time? I am set off at 7th of Jan 0:00 and i'd like to continue with --rri from there. Flo -- Florian Lohoff f...@zz.de Es ist ein grobes Missverständnis und eine Fehlwahrnehmung, dem Staat im Internet Zensur- und Überwachungsabsichten zu unterstellen. - - Bundesminister Dr. Wolfgang Schäuble -- 10. Juli in Berlin signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
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How do i init the --rri task (--rrii) to a specific date/time? I am set off at 7th of Jan 0:00 and i'd like to continue with --rri from there. Flo Run ./osmosis --rrii workingDirectory=/work with a suitable directory. Osmosis will create some files in that directory. Open the configuration file and set the url to http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute-replicate. Set interval to whatever makes sense for your application. Next, find the state.txt file on planet.openstreetmap.org that corresponds to the time you'd like to start at. Download that state.txt file and save it to the osmosis working directory. For instance, the state.txt file for Jan 7 at 00:00 is 167266. Run osmosis with --rri option to start downloading data. -Jeremy ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
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On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Brett Henderson br...@bretth.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Brett Henderson br...@bretth.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Brett Henderson br...@bretth.comwrote: Are there any objections to me disabling the old minute and hourly changesets and deleting their files from the planet server? http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute/ http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute-slow/ http://planet.openstreetmap.org/hourly/ They are replaced by the (hopefully) reliable transaction based replication changesets. http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute-replicate/ http://planet.openstreetmap.org/hour-replicate/ I haven't heard any complaints about the replication changesets so I'm assuming they're working well. I'll leave the daily changesets running for now because they are running with a much longer delay and shouldn't miss data. I'm not aware of anybody still using the minute diffs. I'll disable them early in the new year. I won't delete the files straight away so they can be re-enabled if somebody suddenly screams. I hope to disable the hour diffs around the same time but will wait until Florian has moved off them first. The minute and minute-slow diffs are now disabled. I'll delete the following directories in a couple of days if nobody yells. http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute/ http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute-slow/ I'm keen to delete the hourly diffs as well. *Florian*, have you had a chance to move off these yet? http://planet.openstreetmap.org/hourly/ I haven't heard anything but I've disabled the hourly diffs as well. They can be re-enabled if necessary. As per the minute and minute-slow diffs, I'll delete these if nobody yells. I'll give it at least a few days though. Brett ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets
2010/1/7 Brett Henderson br...@bretth.com: As per the minute and minute-slow diffs, I'll delete these if nobody yells. I'll give it at least a few days though. Not that it's going to be a problem for me, but I don't anyone will yell till the parent directories are deleted and people realise things have changed and they need to update their systems. At present just disabling new files from being generated isn't going to break anything, it will just stop updates, but that probably won't spit out errors. ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
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Yep, fair enough. How about I rename them so that things break ... On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:21 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: 2010/1/7 Brett Henderson br...@bretth.com: As per the minute and minute-slow diffs, I'll delete these if nobody yells. I'll give it at least a few days though. Not that it's going to be a problem for me, but I don't anyone will yell till the parent directories are deleted and people realise things have changed and they need to update their systems. At present just disabling new files from being generated isn't going to break anything, it will just stop updates, but that probably won't spit out errors. ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
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2010/1/7 Brett Henderson br...@bretth.com: Yep, fair enough. How about I rename them so that things break ... I doubt it matters either way, since people will need to alter their systems sooner rather than later, all I'm saying is there is no point just turning off the update it won't break anything. ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:04 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: 2010/1/7 Brett Henderson br...@bretth.com: Yep, fair enough. How about I rename them so that things break ... I doubt it matters either way, since people will need to alter their systems sooner rather than later, all I'm saying is there is no point just turning off the update it won't break anything. I've renamed the directories. At least this way I can re-enable them if necessary. ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
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On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 3:05 PM, Brett Henderson br...@bretth.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Brett Henderson br...@bretth.com wrote: Are there any objections to me disabling the old minute and hourly changesets and deleting their files from the planet server? http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute/ http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute-slow/ http://planet.openstreetmap.org/hourly/ They are replaced by the (hopefully) reliable transaction based replication changesets. http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute-replicate/ http://planet.openstreetmap.org/hour-replicate/ I haven't heard any complaints about the replication changesets so I'm assuming they're working well. I'll leave the daily changesets running for now because they are running with a much longer delay and shouldn't miss data. I'm not aware of anybody still using the minute diffs. I'll disable them early in the new year. I won't delete the files straight away so they can be re-enabled if somebody suddenly screams. I hope to disable the hour diffs around the same time but will wait until Florian has moved off them first. The minute and minute-slow diffs are now disabled. I'll delete the following directories in a couple of days if nobody yells. http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute/ http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute-slow/ I'm keen to delete the hourly diffs as well. *Florian*, have you had a chance to move off these yet? http://planet.openstreetmap.org/hourly/ Brett ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
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On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Brett Henderson br...@bretth.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Florian Lohoff f...@rfc822.org wrote: Ich am still using the normal hourly diffs as of lately the replicated diff stuff has not been documented and i didnt want to read java code to find out ... Okay, that's fair enough. I'll update the wiki as soon as I can. I can keep the old ones running for a while if necessary, I don't believe they're causing any major problems, I'm just keen to start cleaning things up to simplify maintenance. The wiki has been updated now. Or at least the --read-replication-interval task has been. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmosis/Detailed_Usage#--read-replication-interval_.28--rri.29 Note that you'll need to run the --read-replication-interval-init task first to create a working directory, edit the config file if necessary, and download an appropriate state.txt from the server (some basic instructions are on the wiki). Usage is fairly similar to the old --read-change-interval task. If you get stuck or find the doco lacking let me know. Brett ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
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On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 3:06 PM, Brett Henderson br...@bretth.com wrote: Are there any objections to me disabling the old minute and hourly changesets and deleting their files from the planet server? http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute/ http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute-slow/ http://planet.openstreetmap.org/hourly/ They are replaced by the (hopefully) reliable transaction based replication changesets. http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute-replicate/ http://planet.openstreetmap.org/hour-replicate/ I haven't heard any complaints about the replication changesets so I'm assuming they're working well. I'll leave the daily changesets running for now because they are running with a much longer delay and shouldn't miss data. I'm not aware of anybody still using the minute diffs. I'll disable them early in the new year. I won't delete the files straight away so they can be re-enabled if somebody suddenly screams. I hope to disable the hour diffs around the same time but will wait until Florian has moved off them first. Brett ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets
Brett Henderson wrote: Are there any objections to me disabling the old minute and hourly changesets and deleting their files from the planet server? No objections from me, but you might take your time, between this announcement/request and actually removing them. I haven't heard any complaints about the replication changesets so I'm assuming they're working well. I've been working with them since about day 1. They work wonderfully well, especially with that one-off bug fixed. I'll leave the daily changesets running for now because they are running with a much longer delay and shouldn't miss data. And are probably used in a lot more automated processes, to create a new planet (extract) every day. I know we do it for planet.openstreetmap.nl, and hypercube uses the same daily diff files for the Coastline Error Checker. -- Lennard ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
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On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Brett Henderson br...@bretth.com wrote: Are there any objections to me disabling the old minute and hourly changesets and deleting their files from the planet server? http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute/ http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute-slow/ http://planet.openstreetmap.org/hourly/ They are replaced by the (hopefully) reliable transaction based replication changesets. http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute-replicate/ http://planet.openstreetmap.org/hour-replicate/ I haven't heard any complaints about the replication changesets so I'm assuming they're working well. I'll leave the daily changesets running for now because they are running with a much longer delay and shouldn't miss data. Brett There is a fix for the TRAPI servers to use the minute-replicate diffs instead of the regular minute diffs. Both of my servers have been switched over, but I'm not sure about any others. I'd wait to hear from Mathieu Arnold as he's in charge of the other server(s). -Jeremy ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
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Would it be safe to put a redirect/symlink from the old folder to the new folder? Shaun On 19 Dec 2009, at 04:06, Brett Henderson wrote: Are there any objections to me disabling the old minute and hourly changesets and deleting their files from the planet server? http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute/ http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute-slow/ http://planet.openstreetmap.org/hourly/ They are replaced by the (hopefully) reliable transaction based replication changesets. http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute-replicate/ http://planet.openstreetmap.org/hour-replicate/ I haven't heard any complaints about the replication changesets so I'm assuming they're working well. I'll leave the daily changesets running for now because they are running with a much longer delay and shouldn't miss data. Brett ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets
On Sat, Dec 19, 2009 at 03:06:13PM +1100, Brett Henderson wrote: Are there any objections to me disabling the old minute and hourly changesets and deleting their files from the planet server? http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute/ http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute-slow/ http://planet.openstreetmap.org/hourly/ They are replaced by the (hopefully) reliable transaction based replication changesets. http://planet.openstreetmap.org/minute-replicate/ http://planet.openstreetmap.org/hour-replicate/ I haven't heard any complaints about the replication changesets so I'm assuming they're working well. I'll leave the daily changesets running for now because they are running with a much longer delay and shouldn't miss data. Ich am still using the normal hourly diffs as of lately the replicated diff stuff has not been documented and i didnt want to read java code to find out ... Flo -- Florian Lohoff f...@rfc822.org Es ist ein grobes Missverständnis und eine Fehlwahrnehmung, dem Staat im Internet Zensur- und Überwachungsabsichten zu unterstellen. - - Bundesminister Dr. Wolfgang Schäuble -- 10. Juli in Berlin signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
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On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 5:20 AM, Shaun McDonald sh...@shaunmcdonald.me.ukwrote: Would it be safe to put a redirect/symlink from the old folder to the new folder? Not really. The new diffs and old diffs use very different directory layouts, filenames, etc. Plus the new files contain potentially multiple changes for a single entity which tends to break some things. Brett ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Removing Minutely and Hourly Changesets
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Florian Lohoff f...@rfc822.org wrote: Ich am still using the normal hourly diffs as of lately the replicated diff stuff has not been documented and i didnt want to read java code to find out ... Okay, that's fair enough. I'll update the wiki as soon as I can. I can keep the old ones running for a while if necessary, I don't believe they're causing any major problems, I'm just keen to start cleaning things up to simplify maintenance. Brett ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
