Re: Your podling misses you
Hi. The first release of SkyWalking is by my and Sheng’s hands. Justin, thank you very much for pointed out our mistake of the license and notice of the third-party libraries. In the meantime, must say thanks to Willem. By his help, I can searched and understood the apache documents about the ASF legal and the release process. Sometimes we are get together in the party or meet-up because of we are living in the same city, Beijing. Willem helped me to get the chances to have a speak about SkyWalking at some of the bigger conference. I am sure, he is an active mentor for us. Please let him continue to help us. — Yongsheng Peng Apache SkyWalking PPMC member > 在 2018年9月16日，17:38，Willem Jiang 写道： > > Hi Justin， > > Here are some misunderstanding about my mentor work of skywalking. > I just went through all the skywalking report, I signed all of > them[1][2][3][4][5], and gave comments on recent two reports. > > For the skywalking project, I may not write the code, but I'm sure I'm > active mentor and put lot of efforts on helping the PPMC member > understand the Apache way. > There are lot of internal discussions which you may not know from > outside of project. so I just add skywalking dev to this thread, the > PPMC may give you some feedback about it. > > I shared my experience of Apache infrastructure set up with Mck and > Wusheng at the first stage of incubating and Wushen. > Wushen and I had lot of internal talks about Apache release policies, > and I shared my experience by helping PPMC to check release kit with > some fix solution. > I even had some face to face talk with PPMC about the project status > quite often, and I just attended their offline meetup recently[6]. > > I know been a mentor need to put some of you separate time into > project, but as a reward I can make lots of friend by helping them > understand Open Source and the Apache way. > So I'd happy to stay with Skywalking project as a mentor and keep > sharing my experience with other new incubating project as well. > > [1]https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/January2018 > [2]https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2018 > [3]https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2018 > [4]https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/June2018 > [5]https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/September2018 > [6]https://twitter.com/wusheng1108/status/1021055907285778433 > > Willem Jiang > > Twitter: willemjiang > Weibo: 姜宁willem > > On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 4:06 PM Justin Mclean > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> Thanks for getting in touch. >> >> I signed off the report of skywalking report[1] and gave the comment >> of the skywalking project recently. >> >> >> I can see that. You missed the previous 3 reports, and there was no activity >> from you on the mailing list in recent time which is why you were flagged as >> being possibly inactive. >> >> As Skywalking developer have most discussion in the github issues, >> the statistics may show I'm not active that way. >> Thanks for the reminder, I will put some effort on mailing list. >> >> >> Generally the mailing list and report is how visibility is seen by those >> outside of the project. It's sometimes hard to match up GitHub names with >> real names so even if you are active there I may not be able to immediately >> see it. However from a quick glance at GitHub (your @WillemJiang right?) it >> shows IMO some but not a lot of activity, which is fine but I’m not sure it >> shows that you are an active mentor. Are you sure you can still perform the >> duties of a mentor? [1] If you’re not active or don’t have the time then it >> doesn’t help the podling. >> >> The choice of if want to continue as a mentor is yours. I suggest you read >> through the list of what is expected of a mentor and be honest with yourself >> if you can commit to doing that going forward. Perhaps best to think about >> it for a couple of days then decide? If you can continue and do what is >> expected then great nothing will happen, but even if you do decide to step >> down you can come back at any time and be reinstated as a mentor by asking >> your podling or the IPMC. >> >> I also notice you have just put yourself down as mentor for a new incubating >> project. Are you sure you have time to commit to this new project as well? >> >> Thanks, >> Justin >> >> 1. >> https://incubator.apache.org/policy/roles_and_responsibilities.html#mentor >
Re: Your podling misses you
Hi Willem and Justin First of all, sorry I missed the previous discussions. I am aware of in ipmc ml, we are discussing about absent mentors, but I didn't realize our mentors are included in. Sorry didn't report the status, and make some misunderstandings. Willem's helps are more than he mentioned, he responded our help requests and questions quickly, and do release check and vote several times(almost every time, I think). Also he guided us to work on Apache Maturity Model Assessment, when PPMC member starts to ask for things about graduation. I appreciate his contributions and helps so much. Codes contributions should not be a problem, SkyWalking have a large contributions team, a very dedicated committer team, and a lot of users[1]. So Apache way lessons are the most helps we need from our mentors. All of our mentors are close to us, and highly responsible for guiding us. The several things they show up in GitHub, because that PR is licenses related. I am definitely sure, he is an active mentor for us. I want him to stay in this way. At here, I also want to thank all of our mentors, Mick, Willem, Luke and Ignasi. You help us in different ways, and help a lot. For me, SkyWalking doesn't look like have any concern about absent mentor. We are in great trend, both in project development and Apache way. [1] https://github.com/apache/incubator-skywalking#who-uses-skywalking -- Sheng Wu Apache SkyWalking -- Original -- From: "willem.jiang"; Date: Sun, Sep 16, 2018 05:38 PM To: "Justin Mclean"; Cc: "dev"; Subject: Re: Your podling misses you Hi Justin?? Here are some misunderstanding about my mentor work of skywalking. I just went through all the skywalking report, I signed all of them[1][2][3][4][5], and gave comments on recent two reports. For the skywalking project, I may not write the code, but I'm sure I'm active mentor and put lot of efforts on helping the PPMC member understand the Apache way. There are lot of internal discussions which you may not know from outside of project. so I just add skywalking dev to this thread, the PPMC may give you some feedback about it. I shared my experience of Apache infrastructure set up with Mck and Wusheng at the first stage of incubating and Wushen. Wushen and I had lot of internal talks about Apache release policies, and I shared my experience by helping PPMC to check release kit with some fix solution. I even had some face to face talk with PPMC about the project status quite often, and I just attended their offline meetup recently[6]. I know been a mentor need to put some of you separate time into project, but as a reward I can make lots of friend by helping them understand Open Source and the Apache way. So I'd happy to stay with Skywalking project as a mentor and keep sharing my experience with other new incubating project as well. [1]https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/January2018 [2]https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2018 [3]https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2018 [4]https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/June2018 [5]https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/September2018 [6]https://twitter.com/wusheng1108/status/1021055907285778433 Willem Jiang Twitter: willemjiang Weibo: willem On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 4:06 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > Thanks for getting in touch. > > I signed off the report of skywalking report[1] and gave the comment > of the skywalking project recently. > > > I can see that. You missed the previous 3 reports, and there was no activity > from you on the mailing list in recent time which is why you were flagged as > being possibly inactive. > > As Skywalking developer have most discussion in the github issues, > the statistics may show I'm not active that way. > Thanks for the reminder, I will put some effort on mailing list. > > > Generally the mailing list and report is how visibility is seen by those > outside of the project. It's sometimes hard to match up GitHub names with > real names so even if you are active there I may not be able to immediately > see it. However from a quick glance at GitHub (your @WillemJiang right?) it > shows IMO some but not a lot of activity, which is fine but I??m not sure it > shows that you are an active mentor. Are you sure you can still perform the > duties of a mentor? [1] If you??re not active or don??t have the time then it > doesn??t help the podling. > > The choice of if want to continue as a mentor is yours. I suggest you read > through the list of what is expected of a mentor and be honest with yourself > if you can commit to doing that going forward. Perhaps best to think about it > for a couple of days then decide? If you can continue and do what is expected > then great nothing will happen, but even if you do decide to step down you > can come b
Re: Your podling misses you
Hi Justin， Here are some misunderstanding about my mentor work of skywalking. I just went through all the skywalking report, I signed all of them[1][2][3][4][5], and gave comments on recent two reports. For the skywalking project, I may not write the code, but I'm sure I'm active mentor and put lot of efforts on helping the PPMC member understand the Apache way. There are lot of internal discussions which you may not know from outside of project. so I just add skywalking dev to this thread, the PPMC may give you some feedback about it. I shared my experience of Apache infrastructure set up with Mck and Wusheng at the first stage of incubating and Wushen. Wushen and I had lot of internal talks about Apache release policies, and I shared my experience by helping PPMC to check release kit with some fix solution. I even had some face to face talk with PPMC about the project status quite often, and I just attended their offline meetup recently[6]. I know been a mentor need to put some of you separate time into project, but as a reward I can make lots of friend by helping them understand Open Source and the Apache way. So I'd happy to stay with Skywalking project as a mentor and keep sharing my experience with other new incubating project as well. [1]https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/January2018 [2]https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/February2018 [3]https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/March2018 [4]https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/June2018 [5]https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/September2018 [6]https://twitter.com/wusheng1108/status/1021055907285778433 Willem Jiang Twitter: willemjiang Weibo: 姜宁willem On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 4:06 PM Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > Thanks for getting in touch. > > I signed off the report of skywalking report[1] and gave the comment > of the skywalking project recently. > > > I can see that. You missed the previous 3 reports, and there was no activity > from you on the mailing list in recent time which is why you were flagged as > being possibly inactive. > > As Skywalking developer have most discussion in the github issues, > the statistics may show I'm not active that way. > Thanks for the reminder, I will put some effort on mailing list. > > > Generally the mailing list and report is how visibility is seen by those > outside of the project. It's sometimes hard to match up GitHub names with > real names so even if you are active there I may not be able to immediately > see it. However from a quick glance at GitHub (your @WillemJiang right?) it > shows IMO some but not a lot of activity, which is fine but I’m not sure it > shows that you are an active mentor. Are you sure you can still perform the > duties of a mentor? [1] If you’re not active or don’t have the time then it > doesn’t help the podling. > > The choice of if want to continue as a mentor is yours. I suggest you read > through the list of what is expected of a mentor and be honest with yourself > if you can commit to doing that going forward. Perhaps best to think about it > for a couple of days then decide? If you can continue and do what is expected > then great nothing will happen, but even if you do decide to step down you > can come back at any time and be reinstated as a mentor by asking your > podling or the IPMC. > > I also notice you have just put yourself down as mentor for a new incubating > project. Are you sure you have time to commit to this new project as well? > > Thanks, > Justin > > 1. https://incubator.apache.org/policy/roles_and_responsibilities.html#mentor
