Re: Any interest in a read-only JMX role?

2022-06-13 Thread Christopher Schultz
Jon, On 6/13/22 15:28, jonmcalexan...@wellsfargo.com.INVALID wrote: I'm sorry I interfered. Sorry, I don't think my tone transmitted well via email. I was mostly trying to be playful. If you'd like to comment on making monitoring data available via Tomcat using either the Manager app - or

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat 8.5.81 available

2022-06-13 Thread Han Li
> 2022年6月14日 00:23,Christopher Schultz 写道: > > Li, > > On 6/13/22 08:26, Han Li wrote: >>> 2022年6月13日 01:44,Christopher Schultz 写道: >>> >>> The Apache Tomcat team announces the immediate availability of Apache >>> Tomcat 8.5.81. >>> >>> Apache Tomcat 8 is an open source software

Re: Any interest in a read-only JMX role?

2022-06-13 Thread Tim Funk
Doing a quick dive and restricting invoke, get, set, query to their own roles looks "easy" since they have their if() checks.(Easier to lock down than I recalled) As for further locking down get() - I guess one could add an init() param to the servlet called get-approve-list which can be a white

Re: Any interest in a read-only JMX role?

2022-06-13 Thread Christopher Schultz
Mark, On 6/13/22 14:56, Mark Thomas wrote: On 13/06/2022 19:34, Christopher Schultz wrote: Mark, On 6/13/22 13:19, Mark Thomas wrote: On 13/06/2022 17:32, Christopher Schultz wrote: All, I've been thinking about the possibility of making a read-only JMX role available for the existing

RE: Any interest in a read-only JMX role?

2022-06-13 Thread jonmcalexander
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svn commit: r1901880 - in /tomcat/site/trunk: docs/security-8.html xdocs/security-8.xml

2022-06-13 Thread markt
Author: markt Date: Mon Jun 13 14:04:21 2022 New Revision: 1901880 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1901880=rev Log: Add release date for 8.5.79 Modified: tomcat/site/trunk/docs/security-8.html tomcat/site/trunk/xdocs/security-8.xml Modified: tomcat/site/trunk/docs/security-8.html

Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat 8.5.81 available

2022-06-13 Thread Han Li
> 2022年6月13日 01:44,Christopher Schultz 写道: > > The Apache Tomcat team announces the immediate availability of Apache > Tomcat 8.5.81. > > Apache Tomcat 8 is an open source software implementation of the Java > Servlet, JavaServer Pages, Java Unified Expression Language, Java > WebSocket and

JDK 19: Rampdown Phase 1 + EA builds 26 & JDK 20: EA builds 1

2022-06-13 Thread David Delabassee
Greetings! JDK 19 has now entered Rampdown Phase One (RDP1) [1], which means that the main-line has been forked into a dedicated JDK 19 stabilization repository. At this point, the overall JDK 19 feature set is frozen and no additional JEPs will be targeted to JDK 19. The stabilization

Re: log4j-appserver module migration

2022-06-13 Thread Piotr P. Karwasz
Hi Mark, On Sat, 11 Jun 2022 at 09:48, Mark Thomas wrote: > > Why can't web applications just use: > > https://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/log4j-jul/index.html > > ? Web applications usually contain libraries that use a variety of logging APIs (Spring uses JCL, Hibernate JBoss Logging, others

[tomcat] branch main updated: Provide a dedicated logger for TLS handshake failures

2022-06-13 Thread markt
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[tomcat] branch main updated: Remove note discussing deprecated and removed configuration options

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[tomcat] branch 8.5.x updated: Provide a dedicated logger for TLS handshake failures

2022-06-13 Thread markt
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Re: [ANN] Apache Tomcat 8.5.81 available

2022-06-13 Thread Christopher Schultz
Li, On 6/13/22 08:26, Han Li wrote: 2022年6月13日 01:44,Christopher Schultz 写道: The Apache Tomcat team announces the immediate availability of Apache Tomcat 8.5.81. Apache Tomcat 8 is an open source software implementation of the Java Servlet, JavaServer Pages, Java Unified Expression

[tomcat] branch 10.0.x updated: Remove note discussing deprecated and removed configuration options

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[tomcat] branch 10.0.x updated: Provide a dedicated logger for TLS handshake failures

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[tomcat] branch 9.0.x updated: Provide a dedicated logger for TLS handshake failures

2022-06-13 Thread markt
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Re: Any interest in a read-only JMX role?

2022-06-13 Thread Christopher Schultz
Tim, On 6/13/22 12:54, Tim Funk wrote: I think JMXProxy should be eventually deprecated. It's "too powerful" for what it can do. At the time of creation - it was a neat idea that was powerful. But if I had to imagine if we would create such a servlet today, security alarms would be loudly

Re: Any interest in a read-only JMX role?

2022-06-13 Thread Christopher Schultz
Konstantin, On 6/13/22 12:54, Konstantin Kolinko wrote: пн, 13 июн. 2022 г. в 19:32, Christopher Schultz : All, I've been thinking about the possibility of making a read-only JMX role available for the existing manager-jmx capability. [...] Does anyone think this is a good idea? I think

Re: Any interest in a read-only JMX role?

2022-06-13 Thread Christopher Schultz
Mark, On 6/13/22 13:19, Mark Thomas wrote: On 13/06/2022 17:32, Christopher Schultz wrote: All, I've been thinking about the possibility of making a read-only JMX role available for the existing manager-jmx capability. The idea would be that this role would only be able to make "get"

Re: Any interest in a read-only JMX role?

2022-06-13 Thread Christopher Schultz
Jon, On 6/13/22 13:43, jonmcalexan...@wellsfargo.com.INVALID wrote: That's great if you use the manager app, but we don't use it or even make it available. Well... this /is/ a conversation about the JMXProxyServlet which is a part of the Manager app. So either you have something to say

[Bug 65401] do no silently fail on javax.net.ssl.SSLHandshakeException "No appropriate protocol (protocol is disabled or cipher suites are inappropriate)"

2022-06-13 Thread bugzilla
https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=65401 Mark Thomas changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution|---

[tomcat] branch main updated: TLS handshake debugging is supported in NIO2 as well

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[tomcat] branch 10.0.x updated: TLS handshake debugging is supported in NIO2 as well

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[tomcat] branch 9.0.x updated: TLS handshake debugging is supported in NIO2 as well

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[tomcat] branch 8.5.x updated: TLS handshake debugging is supported in NIO2 as well

2022-06-13 Thread markt
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Re: Any interest in a read-only JMX role?

2022-06-13 Thread Mark Thomas
On 13/06/2022 19:34, Christopher Schultz wrote: Mark, On 6/13/22 13:19, Mark Thomas wrote: On 13/06/2022 17:32, Christopher Schultz wrote: All, I've been thinking about the possibility of making a read-only JMX role available for the existing manager-jmx capability. The idea would be that

Any interest in a read-only JMX role?

2022-06-13 Thread Christopher Schultz
All, I've been thinking about the possibility of making a read-only JMX role available for the existing manager-jmx capability. The idea would be that this role would only be able to make "get" requests (that is, a JMX-get operation, not HTTP-GET). No "set" or "invoke" operations would be

Re: Any interest in a read-only JMX role?

2022-06-13 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
пн, 13 июн. 2022 г. в 19:32, Christopher Schultz : > > All, > > I've been thinking about the possibility of making a read-only JMX role > available for the existing manager-jmx capability. > > [...] > > Does anyone think this is a good idea? > I think it is a bad idea, because passwords (and

Re: Any interest in a read-only JMX role?

2022-06-13 Thread Konstantin Kolinko
пн, 13 июн. 2022 г. в 19:54, Konstantin Kolinko : > > пн, 13 июн. 2022 г. в 19:32, Christopher Schultz > : > > > > All, > > > > I've been thinking about the possibility of making a read-only JMX role > > available for the existing manager-jmx capability. > > > > [...] > > > > Does anyone think

[tomcat] branch 9.0.x updated: Javadoc improvements

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[tomcat] branch 10.0.x updated: Javadoc improvements

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[tomcat] branch 8.5.x updated: Javadoc improvements

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Re: Any interest in a read-only JMX role?

2022-06-13 Thread Tim Funk
I think JMXProxy should be eventually deprecated. It's "too powerful" for what it can do. At the time of creation - it was a neat idea that was powerful. But if I had to imagine if we would create such a servlet today, security alarms would be loudly clanging. I think a read only option would

Re: Any interest in a read-only JMX role?

2022-06-13 Thread Mark Thomas
On 13/06/2022 17:32, Christopher Schultz wrote: All, I've been thinking about the possibility of making a read-only JMX role available for the existing manager-jmx capability. The idea would be that this role would only be able to make "get" requests (that is, a JMX-get operation, not

[tomcat] branch main updated: Javadoc improvements

2022-06-13 Thread markt
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RE: Any interest in a read-only JMX role?

2022-06-13 Thread jonmcalexander
This sounds like a good idea to me. There may be times that an application team wants to be able to monitor their app, but the support engineers don't want to give them normal JMX access to a production system. The Read-Only role would be good for those types. Dream * Excel * Explore * Inspire

RE: Any interest in a read-only JMX role?

2022-06-13 Thread jonmcalexander
That's great if you use the manager app, but we don't use it or even make it available. Dream * Excel * Explore * Inspire Jon McAlexander Senior Infrastructure Engineer Asst. Vice President He/His Middleware Product Engineering Enterprise CIO | EAS | Middleware | Infrastructure Solutions 8080