Re: Licensing Guidelines Update - Please Read

2010-08-02 Thread Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus)
08.07.2010 00:29, Tom spot Callaway пишет: Hello Fedora! Please take a moment and read this email. There's cake in it for you. Upon the advice of Red Hat Legal, we have slightly amended the Fedora Licensing Guidelines (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:LicensingGuidelines). The

Re: The maintainership of webkitgtk

2010-08-02 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Sunday, August 01, 2010 09:24:28 am Martin Sourada wrote: Hi, I've been wondering what's up with webkitgtk maintainership. It's pretty important gnome desktop component but it looks rather neglected. Last update on stable branches of fedora was done by rahul who even isn't in the commit

Re: The move to git!

2010-08-02 Thread Andreas Schwab
Josh Stone jist...@redhat.com writes: A git trick I'd like fedpkg to learn is to use separate url/pushurl, e.g. in .git/config: [remote origin] fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/* url = git://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/foo pushurl =

Re: The move to git!

2010-08-02 Thread Karel Zak
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:08:37AM +0100, pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: I think you need to get the latest package from koji so it points to the live git repos and not the test ones. yes, the old version (which is still in F-12) uses pkgs.stg.fedoraproject.org, but the right URL is

Re: repos.fedorapeople.org

2010-08-02 Thread Karel Zak
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 04:04:20PM -0500, Mike McGrath wrote: I'm happy to announce the availability of repos.fedorapeople.org. Cool. It would be nice to have a support for this in koji. Now you have to download all rpms from koji to your local machine and then upload by rsync to

rawhide report: 20100802 changes

2010-08-02 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Mon Aug 2 08:15:19 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- CGAL-3.6.1-1.fc14.i686 requires libboost_thread-mt.so.1.41.0 CGAL-3.6.1-1.fc14.x86_64 requires libboost_thread-mt.so.1.41.0()(64bit)

Orphaning wp_tray

2010-08-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi, Upstream seems to have disappeared Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: The maintainership of webkitgtk

2010-08-02 Thread Martin Sourada
On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 09:28 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: What we really need is someone who would take care about all WebKit implementations in Fedora and it's nearly full time job :-) Or even better - someone realizes that shipping X nearly standalone webkits on Y toolkits is just a

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Alpha TC1 Is Available Now!

2010-08-02 Thread Thomas Spura
Am Sun, 01 Aug 2010 20:20:35 -0700 schrieb John Reiser jrei...@bitwagon.com: F-14 Alpha TC1 has been posted for testing: * http://serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/14.TC1/ https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620274 pyconfig-32.h and [respectively] pyconfig-64.h are

Re: nonresponsive maintainer policy

2010-08-02 Thread James Findley
On 07/30/2010 10:31 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:28:11 +0200 Sven Lankess...@lank.es wrote: On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 03:28:42PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: I think we should add some policy to address those unmaintained packages, There is the non-responsive maintainer

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Alpha TC1 Is Available Now!

2010-08-02 Thread Joachim Backes
On 08/02/10 13:23, Thomas Spura wrote: Am Sun, 01 Aug 2010 20:20:35 -0700 schrieb John Reiser jrei...@bitwagon.com: F-14 Alpha TC1 has been posted for testing: * http://serverbeach1.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/14.TC1/ https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620274 pyconfig-32.h

[Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Alpha TC1 Available Now!

2010-08-02 Thread Andre Robatino
Fedora 14 Alpha TC1 is now available [1]. Please refer to the following pages for download links and testing instructions. Installation: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test Desktop: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Desktop_Test Ideally,

Re: nonresponsive maintainer policy

2010-08-02 Thread Chen Lei
2010/8/2 James Findley s...@gmx.com: On 07/30/2010 10:31 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 16:28:11 +0200 Remember that some packages get very little activity because they need very little. Increasing someone's AWOLness counter because they didn't for example, update ed is just

Re: nonresponsive maintainer policy

2010-08-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 12:31:22 +0100, James wrote: Remember that some packages get very little activity because they need very little. And these are not a problem at all. Increasing someone's AWOLness counter because they didn't for example, update ed is just plain silly. [snipped the rest

RCS keywords rewritten in dist-git conversion?

2010-08-02 Thread Adam Goode
Hi, In the package jai-imageio-core, my patches contain RCS keywords that are part of the patch or context. These include $RCSfile$, $Date$, etc. After the dist-git conversion, my patches are now different. It seems that keyword substitution was in effect though it never happened before. The

Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Mike Prispan
Hi all, maybe I'm wrong (I guess I am), but is PulseAudio really dead? What lead me to this conclusion? Well look at this: * Fedora has 201 NEW/ASSIGNED bugs right now [1] * there was not fixed a single bug last six months (since 2010-02-23) [2][3] * there are not only not pulseaudio, but alsa is

Broken dependencies: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule

2010-08-02 Thread buildsys
perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule has broken dependencies in the F-14 tree: On x86_64: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-4.fc13.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.1) On i386: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-4.fc13.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.1) Please resolve this as soon as

Broken dependencies: perl-Config-Model

2010-08-02 Thread buildsys
perl-Config-Model has broken dependencies in the F-14 tree: On x86_64: perl-Config-Model-1.205-2.fc14.noarch requires perl(YAML::Any) = 0:0.303 On i386: perl-Config-Model-1.205-2.fc14.noarch requires perl(YAML::Any) = 0:0.303 Please resolve this as soon as possible. -- Fedora

Broken dependencies: perl-Data-Alias

2010-08-02 Thread buildsys
perl-Data-Alias has broken dependencies in the F-14 tree: On x86_64: perl-Data-Alias-1.07-6.fc13.x86_64 requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.1) On i386: perl-Data-Alias-1.07-6.fc13.i686 requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.1) Please resolve this as soon as possible. -- Fedora Extras

[Bug 620459] New: perl-MIME-Lite - Request for EL-6 branch

2010-08-02 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: perl-MIME-Lite - Request for EL-6 branch https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620459 Summary: perl-MIME-Lite - Request for EL-6 branch

Re: [389-devel] Solaris 10 SPARC support for ds

2010-08-02 Thread Rich Megginson
Ogun Heper wrote: Hi all, I don't know if this is the right place to ask but i want to learn if support will be available for Solaris 10 SPARC in the upcoming releases of 389 Directory Server? What do you mean by support? FAQ

Re: F-14 Branched report: 20100802 changes

2010-08-02 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 python-recaptcha-client-1.0.5-3.fc14.noarch requires python(abi) = 0:2.6 This has been built in Koji since July 30th (1) Why is it not making it into composes? (1) http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=186994 - -- Stephen

Re: F-14 Branched report: 20100802 changes

2010-08-02 Thread Mamoru Tasaka
Stephen Gallagher wrote, at 08/03/2010 01:24 AM +9:00: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 python-recaptcha-client-1.0.5-3.fc14.noarch requires python(abi) = 0:2.6 This has been built in Koji since July 30th (1) Why is it not making it into composes? (1)

Re: F-14 Branched report: 20100802 changes

2010-08-02 Thread Dennis Gilmore
On Monday, August 02, 2010 11:24:09 am Stephen Gallagher wrote: python-recaptcha-client-1.0.5-3.fc14.noarch requires python(abi) = 0:2.6 This has been built in Koji since July 30th (1) Why is it not making it into composes? (1)

Re: F-14 Branched report: 20100802 changes

2010-08-02 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/02/2010 12:29 PM, Mamoru Tasaka wrote: Stephen Gallagher wrote, at 08/03/2010 01:24 AM +9:00: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 python-recaptcha-client-1.0.5-3.fc14.noarch requires python(abi) = 0:2.6 This has been built

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 02.08.10 17:01, Mike Prispan (fr.p...@gmail.com) wrote: Hi all, maybe I'm wrong (I guess I am), but is PulseAudio really dead? What lead me to this conclusion? Well look at this: * Fedora has 201 NEW/ASSIGNED bugs right now [1] * there was not fixed a single bug last six months

Re: The move to git!

2010-08-02 Thread Harald Hoyer
On 07/30/2010 08:13 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/30/2010 08:52 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: fedpkg build fedpkg build Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/fedpkg, line 959, inmodule args.command(args) File

Re: RCS keywords rewritten in dist-git conversion?

2010-08-02 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 7:59 AM, Adam Goode wrote: Does this warrant re-converting the package? Or I can fix up the patches myself. I suspect parsecvs got confused by the contents of the file having RCS keywords. I could try re-converting it using git cvsimport

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Robert 'Bob' Jensen
- Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: No, it's not. I am just pushing systemd through right now, and did other stuff. Also, check upstream git to figure out whether a project is dead. The last commit there is from 2 weeks ago. Git can tell you something about whether

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 9:52 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: People have had this complaint since PA was forced on to the Fedora users. Language such as this is not being excellent to each other. It's unnecessarily antagonistic. Please stop. - -- Jesse

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Robert 'Bob' Jensen
- Jesse Keating jkeat...@j2solutions.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 9:52 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: People have had this complaint since PA was forced on to the Fedora users. Language such as this is not being excellent to each other.

Wordpress testers needed!

2010-08-02 Thread Jon Ciesla
In an effort to try to reduce and eliminate Wordpress's reliance on bundled PHP libraries, I've produced some test builds. If someone familiar with administering Wordpress and Wordpress-mu could test to make sure the changes don't break anything and let me know, what would be wonderful and

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Robert 'Bob' Jensen
- Jesse Keating jkeat...@j2solutions.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 9:52 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: People have had this complaint since PA was forced on to the Fedora users. Language such as this is not being excellent to each other.

Re: Wordpress testers needed!

2010-08-02 Thread pbrobin...@gmail.com
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Jon Ciesla l...@jcomserv.net wrote:  In an effort to try to reduce and eliminate Wordpress's reliance on bundled PHP libraries, I've produced some test builds.  If someone familiar with administering Wordpress and Wordpress-mu could test to make sure the changes

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Máirín Duffy
On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 17:07 +, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: - Jesse Keating jkeat...@j2solutions.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 9:52 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: People have had this complaint since PA was forced on to the Fedora users.

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 10:07 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: Would Fix your existing broken crap before taking up something new. be less antagonistic? No, it wouldn't, and you know that. Now you're just intentionally being rude. I ask again, please try to be

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread seth vidal
On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 18:50 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: Also, check upstream git to figure out whether a project is dead. The last commit there is from 2 weeks ago. Git can tell you something about whether development happens. Bugzilla just tells you whether I have devoted my life to

Re: The move to git!

2010-08-02 Thread Harald Hoyer
On 08/02/2010 07:02 PM, Harald Hoyer wrote: On 07/30/2010 08:13 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/30/2010 08:52 AM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: fedpkg build fedpkg build Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/fedpkg, line 959, inmodule

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 16:52 +, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: The fact that the question was asked suggests to me that perhaps one should rethink what and how they are doing things. People have had this complaint since PA was forced on to the Fedora users. Erm, what complaint? That it's dead?

Re: The move to git!

2010-08-02 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Matěj Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote: Everybody was bitching about CVS for years, I'm pretty sure I wasn't. But I'll still pile on with a +1 for the switch over to git -jefgetting git to compile on qnx is no funspaleta -- devel mailing list

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Carl G.
Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mon, 02.08.10 17:01, Mike Prispan (fr.p...@gmail.com) wrote: Hi all, maybe I'm wrong (I guess I am), but is PulseAudio really dead? What lead me to this conclusion? Well look at this: * Fedora has 201 NEW/ASSIGNED bugs right now [1] * there was not fixed a

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Robert 'Bob' Jensen
- Carl G. carl.gaudrea...@gmail.com wrote: Well, i'm happy to be a bug triager so you can get real work done. /s Let me know if you need some help to make the stats looks pretty. Thank You Carl, this will help the community a lot and is a perfect example of why public emails work. --

Re: Firefox 4 for Fedora 14?

2010-08-02 Thread Tom spot Callaway
On 08/01/2010 12:55 PM, Julian Sikorski wrote: W dniu 30.07.2010 17:28, Tom spot Callaway pisze: On 07/30/2010 11:10 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: On 07/30/2010 03:16 AM, Mike McGrath wrote: So I just created: http://repos.fedorapeople.org/ Anyone want to help me test the steps and process

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Frank Murphy
On 02/08/10 19:20, Carl G. wrote: Let me know if you need some help to make the stats looks pretty. :( I just made popcorn. All ppl can get {insert emotion here} and never, ever get close to a pregnant Stag. :D -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list

Re: RCS keywords rewritten in dist-git conversion?

2010-08-02 Thread Adam Goode
On 08/02/2010 01:19 PM, Jesse Keating wrote: On 8/2/10 7:59 AM, Adam Goode wrote: Does this warrant re-converting the package? Or I can fix up the patches myself. I suspect parsecvs got confused by the contents of the file having RCS keywords. I could try re-converting it using git

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Robert 'Bob' Jensen
- Jesse Keating jkeat...@j2solutions.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 10:07 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: Would Fix your existing broken crap before taking up something new. be less antagonistic? No, it wouldn't, and you know that. Now you're

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: Erm, what complaint? That it's dead? I've never heard that one before. Mostly, people seem to complain when it gets changed, not when it doesn't. The gods of irony are pleased indeed. However, this maybe a case where

Upcoming Fedora 14 Tasks

2010-08-02 Thread John Poelstra
Start End Name Wed 26-May Tue 03-Aug Packaging and Development (precedes Alpha) Tue 03-Aug Tue 03-Aug Alpha Change Deadline Tue 03-Aug Tue 03-Aug Software String Freeze Thu 05-Aug Thu 05-Aug Compose Alpha Candidate Fri 06-Aug Fri 06-Aug Alpha Blocker Meeting (f14alpha) #4

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:20:40 -0400 Carl G. carl.gaudrea...@gmail.com wrote: Well, i'm happy to be a bug triager so you can get real work done. /s Let me know if you need some help to make the stats looks pretty. Thanks Carl. Perhaps we could organize a bug zapping day for the pulseaudio

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Mike McGrath
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: - Carl G. carl.gaudrea...@gmail.com wrote: Well, i'm happy to be a bug triager so you can get real work done. /s Let me know if you need some help to make the stats looks pretty. Thank You Carl, this will help the community a lot

Re: RCS keywords rewritten in dist-git conversion?

2010-08-02 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/02/2010 11:55 AM, Adam Goode wrote: Didn't want this to get lost, thanks for fixing this on IRC, but I don't have an f14 branch now. Got that fixed for ya. - -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca:

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/02/2010 12:50 PM, Mike McGrath wrote: On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: - Carl G. carl.gaudrea...@gmail.com wrote: Well, i'm happy to be a bug triager so you can get real work done. /s Let me know if you need some help

Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-08-03)

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting tomorrow at 19:30UTC (3:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. = Followups = #topic #351 Create a policy for updates - status report on implementation https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/351 #topic #382

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Carl G.
Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:20:40 -0400 Carl G. carl.gaudrea...@gmail.com wrote: Well, i'm happy to be a bug triager so you can get real work done. /s Let me know if you need some help to make the stats looks pretty. Thanks Carl. Perhaps we could organize a bug

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Jean-Francois Saucier
On Mon, 2010-08-02 at 18:50 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mon, 02.08.10 17:01, Mike Prispan (fr.p...@gmail.com) wrote: Hi all, maybe I'm wrong (I guess I am), but is PulseAudio really dead? What lead me to this conclusion? Well look at this: * Fedora has 201 NEW/ASSIGNED bugs

Re: F-14 Branched report: 20100802 changes

2010-08-02 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On 08/02/2010 09:32 AM, Branched Report wrote: Compose started at Mon Aug 2 13:15:11 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- barry-0.17-0.1.20100329git.fc14.x86_64 requires libboost_serialization.so.1.41.0()(64bit) Barry is my

Re: F-14 Branched report: 20100802 changes

2010-08-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:17:43 -0600, Nathanael wrote: On 08/02/2010 09:32 AM, Branched Report wrote: Compose started at Mon Aug 2 13:15:11 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- barry-0.17-0.1.20100329git.fc14.x86_64 requires

Re: F-14 Branched report: 20100802 changes

2010-08-02 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
On 08/02/2010 02:26 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 14:17:43 -0600, Nathanael wrote: On 08/02/2010 09:32 AM, Branched Report wrote: Compose started at Mon Aug 2 13:15:11 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 --

Re: F-14 Branched report: 20100802 changes

2010-08-02 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 1:26 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: Your rebuild is in updates-testing. Does the F-14 Branched Report cover updates-testing? (During the F-13 dev cycle, it did not, and I created a separate broken deps report for F-13 Branched +

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-08-03)

2010-08-02 Thread Jochen Schmitt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 02.08.2010 21:58, schrieb Kevin Fenzi: Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting tomorrow at 19:30UTC (3:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Unfortunately, I could not found the summaries of the

Summary/Minutes from FESCo meeting (2010-07-27)

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-07-27) === Meeting started by nirik at 19:30:01 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-07-27/fesco.2010-07-27-19.30.log.html .. Meeting summary

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-08-03)

2010-08-02 Thread Jochen Schmitt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 02.08.2010 22:54, schrieb Kevin Fenzi: I'll get it sent right after this. Thanks for noticing... I am glad folks are reading them and find them helpfull. Thank you for your response. I think not all people have the time to following a meeting

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-08-03)

2010-08-02 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 01:58:56PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting tomorrow at 19:30UTC (3:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. I'm sorry I cannot be at this meeting, but could fixing this bug be discussed:

Asterisk 1.8 in Rawhide (F-15)

2010-08-02 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
I've just built Asterisk 1.8.0 Beta 2 for Rawhide (F-15).  The packages are completely untested at this point so I make no guarantees at this point about it's usability.  I'll be doing some testing on my own but I'd appreciate any testing that anyone else can do. Since we have already passed

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:01:02 -0400, Carl wrote: Perhaps we could organize a bug zapping day for the pulseaudio bugs? Sure, i'm willing to _try_ to help if we can get Lennart to participate and/or pulseaudio experts to assist us. Pulseaudio is currently marked as Only for PA experts here

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread pbrobin...@gmail.com
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@j2solutions.net wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 9:52 AM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: People have had this complaint since PA was forced on to the Fedora users. Language such as this is not being excellent

Re: Can anyone contact Balint Christian (rezso)?

2010-08-02 Thread Sven Lankes
On Sun, Aug 01, 2010 at 12:27:53PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: openlayers I have taken openlayers. -- sven === jabber/xmpp: s...@lankes.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Fedora 14 has been branched!

2010-08-02 Thread John Poelstra
Jesse Keating said the following on 07/30/2010 10:00 AM Pacific Time: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/30/2010 06:00 AM, John Poelstra wrote: Jesse Keating said the following on 07/29/2010 09:03 PM Pacific Time: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread pbrobin...@gmail.com
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: - Carl G. carl.gaudrea...@gmail.com wrote: Well, i'm happy to be a bug triager so you can get real work done. /s Let me know if you need some help to make the

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Thomas Janssen
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: On Mon, 02.08.10 17:01, Mike Prispan (fr.p...@gmail.com) wrote: Hi all, maybe I'm wrong (I guess I am), but is PulseAudio really dead? What lead me to this conclusion? Well look at this: * Fedora has 201

acl problem?

2010-08-02 Thread Neal Becker
Repository : :ext:nbec...@cvs.fedoraproject.org:/cvs/pkgs Module : rpms/mercurial/devel Working dir: ~/fedora/mercurial/devel/ In directory .: Message: cvs [commit aborted]: correct above errors first! Message: Access denied: nbecker is not in ACL for rpms/mercurial/devel Message: cvs

Re: acl problem?

2010-08-02 Thread John5342
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 23:17, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: Repository : :ext:nbec...@cvs.fedoraproject.org:/cvs/pkgs Module     : rpms/mercurial/devel Working dir: ~/fedora/mercurial/devel/ In directory .: Message: cvs [commit aborted]: correct above errors first! Message:

Re: acl problem?

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 18:17:01 -0400 Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote: Repository : :ext:nbec...@cvs.fedoraproject.org:/cvs/pkgs Module : rpms/mercurial/devel Working dir: ~/fedora/mercurial/devel/ In directory .: Message: cvs [commit aborted]: correct above errors first!

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 02.08.10 23:09, pbrobin...@gmail.com (pbrobin...@gmail.com) wrote: On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: - Carl G. carl.gaudrea...@gmail.com wrote: Well, i'm happy to be a bug triager so

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 02.08.10 16:01, Carl G. (carl.gaudrea...@gmail.com) wrote: Sure, i'm willing to _try_ to help if we can get Lennart to participate and/or pulseaudio experts to assist us. Pulseaudio is currently marked as Only for PA experts here :

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread pbrobin...@gmail.com
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 11:37 PM, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: On Mon, 02.08.10 23:09, pbrobin...@gmail.com (pbrobin...@gmail.com) wrote: On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Mike McGrath mmcgr...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, 2 Aug 2010, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: - Carl

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-08-03)

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 2 Aug 2010 22:10:13 +0100 Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 02, 2010 at 01:58:56PM -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting tomorrow at 19:30UTC (3:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net.

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 02.08.10 16:15, Jean-Francois Saucier (jfsauc...@infoglobe.ca) wrote: I am a little off this subject personally but would like to express my thought on that. Knowing that you won't put the time PA need and that you will focus on another project for a relatively long period of time,

Fedora 14 Alpha RC Compose is At Risk

2010-08-02 Thread John Poelstra
Tomorrow is the Alpha Deadline Chances of composing the release candidate for the Fedora 14 Alpha on Thursday are not looking good, but a little time remains. Release Engineering cannot spin a Fedora 14 Release Candidate until this Fedora 14 Alpha Blocker is clear. If you have any additional

Poorly maintained gpsbabel

2010-08-02 Thread Volker Fröhlich
Hello everbody! I maintain the QGIS package. QGIS depends on gpsbabel, which is owned by Silfreed, who is also the former owner of QGIS. I guess, he is not interested in maintaining this package any more as well. I noticed, gpsbabel wasn't built for F14 or Rawhide. Version 1.3.6 is also

Re: Fedora 14 has been branched!

2010-08-02 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 3:05 PM, John Poelstra wrote: Okay. I was going off an earlier conversation that I'd understood to be we have no more 'freezes,' period, in Fedora. I'm open to naming this page something differently, since it's not a complete freeze. -

Re: Poorly maintained gpsbabel

2010-08-02 Thread Tony Breeds
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 01:11:54AM +0200, Volker Fröhlich wrote: snip Maybe somebody can either help me to solve the problem or can take over the package. If gpsbabel is orphaned or if Silfreed is looking for a co-maintainer I'd be happy to help. I use gpsbabel regualrly. Yours Tony --

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Robert 'Bob' Jensen
- Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: Well, my reading of the situation is different. Neither will I be away for too long, nor is the amount of bugs actually that bad. If you look closely a non-trivial number have needinfo set, waiting for the posters to report back.

git branch help?

2010-08-02 Thread Neal Becker
OK, got mercurial updated for devel, apparantly OK. Now try to update f13: fedpkg switch-branch f13 Branch f13 set up to track remote branch f13/master from origin. [nbec...@nbecker1 mercurial]$ git merge master Updating f6a7cf0..33f33a6 Fast-forward .gitignore |2 ++ mercurial.spec |

Re: Fedora 14 Alpha RC Compose is At Risk

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:05:25 -0700 John Poelstra poels...@redhat.com wrote: Tomorrow is the Alpha Deadline Chances of composing the release candidate for the Fedora 14 Alpha on Thursday are not looking good, but a little time remains. Release Engineering cannot spin a Fedora 14 Release

Re: git branch help?

2010-08-02 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 4:31 PM, Neal Becker wrote: OK, got mercurial updated for devel, apparantly OK. Now try to update f13: fedpkg switch-branch f13 Branch f13 set up to track remote branch f13/master from origin. [nbec...@nbecker1 mercurial]$ git

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/2/10 4:00 PM, Robert 'Bob' Jensen wrote: Reminds me of a quote in a book I know. He is like the farmer who came up out of his cyclone cellar to find his home ruined. To his wife, he remarked, Don't see anything the matter here, Ma. Ain't it

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Robert 'Bob' Jensen
- Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote: No you aren't just saying. You are looking to provoke a fight. You don't like Pulse Audio, fine. You want to bring it up over and over, less fine. You want to then duck and dodge any criticism of your actions as being told to not insult the

Re: git branch help?

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jesse Keating wrote: Here is where you should have done a fedpkg or git push [snip] There is nothing to commit, since all the changes are already committed. The joys of DVCSes. People are NOT used to commit and push being different operations. Git is highly confusing to people who aren't git

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 02.08.10 23:50, pbrobin...@gmail.com (pbrobin...@gmail.com) wrote: So, I guess what I want to say is: I will return full-time to PA not so far away. And I have a queue of patches in my checkout (including volume ramping and plug-in effects and similar). Also note that I'll run the

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
pbrobin...@gmail.com wrote: While Lennart has moved onto bigger and better things, which isn't a bad thing, it seems that the maintainership of PA in Fedora hasn't moved on to other maintianers or at least if Lennart is interested in maintaining it he hasn't aquired someone to assist in

Re: Wordpress testers needed!

2010-08-02 Thread Jon Ciesla
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Jon Ciesla l...@jcomserv.net wrote:  In an effort to try to reduce and eliminate Wordpress's reliance on bundled PHP libraries, I've produced some test builds.  If someone familiar with administering Wordpress and Wordpress-mu could test to make sure the

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 03:23 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: It also shows that KDE SIG actually has more and/or more efficient packaging (as opposed to upstream development) manpower than the GNOME folks, unlike what has been frequently claimed. I was on vacation for two weeks, but I'm back

Re: Wordpress testers needed!

2010-08-02 Thread Chen Lei
2010/8/3 Jon Ciesla l...@jcomserv.net: Also I think that with wordpress 3 the separate wordpress-mu release fork has been merged into mainline. So wouldn't it be better to concentrate on wordpress 3? Well, yes, probably.  That might even help with the bundled library situation.  But that's

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
I wrote: s/desktop/GNOME/ KDE packages are tracking upstream closely and are regularly updated, including upstream bugfixes. Plus, we backport or sometimes even develop bugfixes of our own. To me, this shows that a model where upstream versions are tracked by updates is much more viable

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matthias Clasen wrote: I was on vacation for two weeks, but I'm back now. So our manpower should be even again :-) LOL, it's true that you do a lot of work all by yourself. ;-) Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/03/2010 09:06 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: PS: And since PulseAudio is a shared technology also used by other desktops than just GNOME, I'd be willing to pick up comaintainership, but then it'd very likely be maintained in KDE SIG style, aggressively tracking upstream development. IMO,

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Kevin Kofler
Rahul Sundaram wrote: IMO, if you want to be a co-maintainer, you will have to coordinate and work with the model preferred by the primary maintainer. Otherwise disputes will make the process worse and not better. This (or rather, the differences in update conception) is exactly why I

Re: Is PulseAudio dead?

2010-08-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/03/2010 09:20 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Rahul Sundaram wrote: IMO, if you want to be a co-maintainer, you will have to coordinate and work with the model preferred by the primary maintainer. Otherwise disputes will make the process worse and not better. This (or rather, the

Re: git branch help?

2010-08-02 Thread Matt McCutchen
On Tue, 2010-08-03 at 03:06 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Jesse Keating wrote: Here is where you should have done a fedpkg or git push [snip] There is nothing to commit, since all the changes are already committed. The joys of DVCSes. People are NOT used to commit and push being different

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