Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-20 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le jeudi 19 août 2010 à 18:03 -0400, seth vidal a écrit : On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 23:46 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: 3. you want a preview of the fonts - then we need that data somewhere - is it in each font pkg? It would be (generating a svg or png with some font shapes at package build time

Re: Why does X run as root?

2010-08-20 Thread Andrew Clayton
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 18:49:33 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:28:23PM -0400, Chris Ball wrote: I think run X as user Xorg if you're on KMS would be a fine F15Feature to aim for. Ubuntu's been working on it too: Of course, doing so just turns it from Running code

rawhide report: 20100820 changes

2010-08-20 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Fri Aug 20 08:15:10 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- OpenSceneGraph-libs-2.8.3-2.fc14.i686 requires libpoppler.so.6 OpenSceneGraph-libs-2.8.3-2.fc14.x86_64 requires libpoppler.so.6()(64bit)

Re: Kernel 2.6.34 for F13?

2010-08-20 Thread M A Young
On Fri, 20 Aug 2010, Reindl Harald wrote: Will 2.6.34 pushed to stable? My question is because there were also some 2.6.30 builds for F11 which never rolled out and it could possible relax some things in combination with VMware / open-vm-tools

Re: Javascript JIT in web browsers

2010-08-20 Thread Brandon Lozza
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 1:48 AM, Léon Keijser keij...@stone-it.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 03:46 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: The lesser of 2 evils is no solution. Only NO evil at all will keep the user's freedom. Users should NEVER use proprietary software, be it as JavaScript or using

Re: broken dependencies caused by GNOME bouncing between 3 and 2.x without any advance notice

2010-08-20 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Thursday, 19 August 2010 at 18:26, Bastien Nocera wrote: On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 17:18 +0200, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Thursday, 19 August 2010 at 16:39, Matthias Clasen wrote: [...] Again, I'm sorry. Maybe it makes you feel better to know that I am feeling the same pain

Broken dependencies: perl-Config-Model

2010-08-20 Thread buildsys
perl-Config-Model has broken dependencies in the F-14 tree: On x86_64: perl-Config-Model-1.205-2.fc14.noarch requires perl(YAML::Any) = 0:0.303 On i386: perl-Config-Model-1.205-2.fc14.noarch requires perl(YAML::Any) = 0:0.303 Please resolve this as soon as possible. -- Fedora

Broken dependencies: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule

2010-08-20 Thread buildsys
perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule has broken dependencies in the F-14 tree: On x86_64: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-4.fc13.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.1) On i386: perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-4.fc13.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.1) Please resolve this as soon as

F-14 Branched report: 20100820 changes

2010-08-20 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Fri Aug 20 13:15:48 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- PragmARC-20060427-6.fc13.i686 requires libgnarl-4.4.so PragmARC-20060427-6.fc13.i686 requires libgnat-4.4.so PragmARC-20060427-6.fc13.x86_64

Re: Javascript JIT in web browsers

2010-08-20 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 03:46:11AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: Michael Cronenworth wrote: Kevin, if you took off your FSF blindfold you would see that it's better for web sites to use JavaScript. If they complied to /your/ wishes we would have a thousand proprietary protocols, probably all

Re: Javascript JIT in web browsers

2010-08-20 Thread Jon Masters
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 16:55 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 03:46:11AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: The lesser of 2 evils is no solution. Only NO evil at all will keep the user's freedom. Users should NEVER use proprietary software, be it as JavaScript or using a

Re: Kernel 2.6.34 for F13?

2010-08-20 Thread Matthias Runge
On 20/08/10 03:31, Reindl Harald wrote: Will 2.6.34 pushed to stable? My question is because there were also some 2.6.30 builds for F11 which never rolled out and it could possible relax some things in combination with VMware / open-vm-tools

Re: Why does X run as root?

2010-08-20 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 06:49:33PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: I think run X as user Xorg if you're on KMS would be a fine F15Feature to aim for. Ubuntu's been working on it too: Of course, doing so just turns it from Running code as X gives you root to Running code as X gives you root

Re: Kernel 2.6.34 for F13?

2010-08-20 Thread Filipe Rosset
Em 20-08-2010 08:56, M A Young escreveu: On Fri, 20 Aug 2010, Reindl Harald wrote: Will 2.6.34 pushed to stable? My question is because there were also some 2.6.30 builds for F11 which never rolled out and it could possible relax some things in combination with VMware / open-vm-tools

Re: Why does X run as root?

2010-08-20 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 02:38:59PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 06:49:33PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: I think run X as user Xorg if you're on KMS would be a fine F15Feature to aim for. Ubuntu's been working on it too: Of course, doing so just turns it from

Re: Why does X run as root?

2010-08-20 Thread Gregory Maxwell
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 02:38:59PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 06:49:33PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: I think run X as user Xorg if you're on KMS would be a fine F15Feature to aim for.  

Re: Kernel 2.6.34 for F13?

2010-08-20 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, 2010/8/20 Matthias Runge mru...@matthias-runge.de: On 20/08/10 03:31, Reindl Harald wrote: Will 2.6.34 pushed to stable? My question is because there were also some  2.6.30 builds for F11 which never rolled out and it could possible relax some things in combination with VMware /

[ACTION REQUIRED, v2] orphaned packages in F-14

2010-08-20 Thread Bill Nottingham
The attached list shows currently orphaned packages in F-14. If they are not claimed by the end of next week, they will be blocked, potentially breaking dependencies (and causing more things to be blocked...) If you already co-maintain the package, please step up and take it. (If you don't, it

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED, v2] orphaned packages in F-14

2010-08-20 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 16:25 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Orphan drgeo Orphan drgeo-doc Taken. Jonathan signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-20 Thread Mahmoud Abdul Jawad
Hi all,, before two weeks, a discussion started in ambassadors mailing-list about a work around to deliver the important notifications to the fedora desktop (whatever the desktop is). after some discussion, we started with some guide lines putted them on the wiki:

Re: Javascript JIT in web browsers

2010-08-20 Thread Peter Jones
On 08/20/2010 12:43 PM, Jon Masters wrote: On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 16:55 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 03:46:11AM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: The lesser of 2 evils is no solution. Only NO evil at all will keep the user's freedom. Users should NEVER use proprietary

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/21/2010 02:16 AM, Mahmoud Abdul Jawad wrote: Hi all,, before two weeks, a discussion started in ambassadors mailing-list about a work around to deliver the important notifications to the fedora desktop (whatever the desktop is). after some discussion, we started with some guide lines

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-20 Thread Brandon Lozza
You are requesting people participate in discussions via Google Wave. This is problematic for two reasons: a) Google Wave is dead b) Noone wants to use Google Wave. See a) Rahul a) you're a troll b) you're a troll -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-20 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 8/20/10 3:20 PM, Brandon Lozza wrote: You are requesting people participate in discussions via Google Wave. This is problematic for two reasons: a) Google Wave is dead b) Noone wants to use Google Wave. See a) Rahul a) you're a

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-20 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 03:26:24PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On 8/20/10 3:20 PM, Brandon Lozza wrote: You are requesting people participate in discussions via Google Wave. This is problematic for two reasons: a) Google Wave is dead b) Noone wants to use Google Wave. See a)

Re: Why does X run as root?

2010-08-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 14:38 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 06:49:33PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: I think run X as user Xorg if you're on KMS would be a fine F15Feature to aim for. Ubuntu's been working on it too: Of course, doing so just turns it from Running

Re: Javascript JIT in web browsers

2010-08-20 Thread Ryan Rix
On Thu 19 August 2010 15:01:17 Michael Cronenworth wrote: Kevin Kofler wrote: Sorry, but I don't think exposing our users to remote arbitrary code execution (!) vulnerabilities just to make web apps a bit faster is a reasonable tradeoff. Kevin, if you took off your FSF blindfold you

Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 22:55 +0200, drago01 wrote: This is definitely a step in the right direction. PK should follow that and only display apps by default in the GUI. That would likely be a bad idea. Mandriva did something similar a few years back, before I left, and it was pretty unpopular

Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-20 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: That would likely be a bad idea. Mandriva did something similar a few years back, before I left, and it was pretty unpopular and often confusing for users. I lost count of the number of times I explained how to change

Re: Fedora Notifications System.

2010-08-20 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote: Nevertheless, imho it should not be used to develop infrastructure for Fedora, because people involved in Fedora might not want to use it, because it is not FOSS. The less-than-clear-future roadmap for Wave as a service

Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 16:25 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: That would likely be a bad idea. Mandriva did something similar a few years back, before I left, and it was pretty unpopular and often confusing for users. I

Re: Javascript JIT in web browsers

2010-08-20 Thread Matej Cepl
Ilyes Gouta, Thu, 19 Aug 2010 21:43:45 +0100: How about a very well maintained open source piece of software, such as WebKit which of the two forks of KHTML is well maintained in your opinion? Google one? (http://spot.livejournal.com/312320.html) and WebKit2