Alasdair G Kergon wrote:
An example of the way I see it working is like this:
Say you have a Volume Group VG1 across two PVs, PV1 and PV2, containing
Logical
Volume LV1 containing the root filesystem.
You have a trigger rule saying When you see the whole of VG1, activate LV1
inside it and
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 08:44:43AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 11:23 +0100, Till Maas wrote:
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:18:38PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
place. The idea was never that some magic independent group of testers
would spend the rest of their
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:42:19AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
it's worth noting that part of the point of the 7-day clause is to cover
'invisible testing'; even if people aren't posting feedback to Bodhi,
it's likely that if the update actually is broken, we will find out one
way or
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 03:35:43PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
* require testing only for packages where people have signed up to be testers
Packages without 'official' testers could bypass testing or have some lower
karma
requirement. We would need for this a list of packages that have had
On Sunday 21 November 2010, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Ville Skyttä wrote:
It probably did, and because the above is related to config files,
leaving behind *.rpmorig is quite appropriate IMO. But leaving such
cruft behind is not that fine for non-config files.
Well, instead of a mv to
On Sunday 21 November 2010, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
Hi,
I would like to help with scripts conversion. IMO the conversion
action should be coordinated.
Comments, thoughts?
Sure. But just in case by coordination you happen imply that a small team of
volunteers would be doing the grunt
Till Maas wrote:
I did not write that testing is a waste of time. But begging to get
updates tested is. Also it is imho for each maintainer to maintain lots
of test machines (e.g. there are four Fedora releases: F12, F13, F14
and Rawhide and two primary archs, making it 8 machines) even if
Till Maas wrote:
All of this could be combined. E.g. packages with enough testers get
test cases and need to fulfill stronger criteria. Packages with not so
many testers get test cases and only need to fulfil that similar
updates need to receive good karma on one Fedora release.
Off course
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 4:19 AM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
Adam Williamson wrote:
I don't disagree with anything you say, but the question of what's more
important than testing an update is key. If an update's worth doing,
it's worth testing. This is pretty simple, and amply
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2010/11/21 Ville Skyttä ville.sky...@iki.fi:
On Sunday 21 November 2010, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
Hi,
I would like to help with scripts conversion. IMO the conversion
action should be coordinated.
Comments, thoughts?
Sure. But just in case by coordination you happen imply that a small
On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 15:35:43 -0700, Kevin wrote:
Other concrete ideas?
As a beginning, let's limit this thread to at most one message per person
per day.
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Kevin Kofler wrote:
Richard Zidlicky wrote:
However for some of the reports it is only the matter of someone looking
at them as they contain the obvious solution to the problem.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=595165
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=582013
The
Hi.
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 09:26:58 +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote
You still need a timeout to avoid waiting for ever for the root
filesystem to appear when one of the PV has been disconnected from
the system.
If you cannot assemble the root file system, what is init supposed to
do instead of
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On 11/21/2010 02:28 AM, Mamoru Tasaka wrote:
Eric Sparks Christensen wrote, at 11/21/2010 01:47 PM +9:00:
I'm working on updating the GPredict package for F13, F14, F15, and EL6.
The package builds fine on F14 and F15 but on F13 it fails with the
Ralf Ertzinger wrote:
Hi.
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 09:26:58 +0100, Roberto Ragusa wrote
You still need a timeout to avoid waiting for ever for the root
filesystem to appear when one of the PV has been disconnected from
the system.
If you cannot assemble the root file system, what is init
On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 09:51 -0500, Eric Sparks Christensen wrote:
Why would it magically show up in F-15 and F-14 but not F-13 and EL-6?
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ChangeInImplicitDSOLinking
Later,
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On 11/21/2010 10:50 AM, Brian Pepple wrote:
On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 09:51 -0500, Eric Sparks Christensen wrote:
Why would it magically show up in F-15 and F-14 but not F-13 and EL-6?
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ChangeInImplicitDSOLinking
On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 12:42 -0500, David Nalley wrote:
I am curious to know a few things?
How many updates submitted to bodhi since the policy has been in place?
How many updates received any feedback?
How many updates received only neutral or negative feedback?
How many updates had an
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 03:35:43PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
ok, I dug through the devel list for the last month or two and wrote
down all the various ideas folks have come up with to change/improve
things.
Here (in no particular order) are the ideas and some notes from me on
how we could
Toshio Kuratomi a.badger at gmail.com writes:
Lack of manpower ideas:
* Allow anonymous karma to count. Anonymous karma would allow more people
who report bugs in bugzilla to add karma in bodhi without having to get
a second account in the Fedora Account System. For critpath packages,
The recent change in xz compression settings caused md5 mismatch errors in
rebuilding RPMs (since applydeltarpm doesn't know the difference between the old
and new compression). This resulted in significant work for releng. To avoid
this issue in the future, what about using different names and
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 14:49 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 22:04:24 -0800
Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
...snip...
https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ticket/277
hum, that wasn't well
On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 11:22 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Till Maas wrote:
I did not write that testing is a waste of time. But begging to get
updates tested is. Also it is imho for each maintainer to maintain lots
of test machines (e.g. there are four Fedora releases: F12, F13, F14
and
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 05:41:35PM +, Andre Robatino wrote:
The recent change in xz compression settings caused md5 mismatch errors in
rebuilding RPMs (since applydeltarpm doesn't know the difference between the
old
and new compression). This resulted in significant work for releng. To
On 11/20/10 6:54 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
The breakage is supposed to be noticed and fixed during the extensive
testing we do for that kind of updates. We tested 4.5.x for about half a
year in total: ~3 months of prerelease testing in kde-redhat unstable, ~2
months of 4.5.x testing in
On Sunday 21 November 2010, Jesse Keating wrote:
On 11/20/10 6:54 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
The breakage is supposed to be noticed and fixed during the extensive
testing we do for that kind of updates. We tested 4.5.x for about half a
year in total: ~3 months of prerelease testing in
Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
packages. Perhaps this could be longer than for non-critpath. The big
issue that people have observed with depending on timeouts, though, is
that pushing new updates in the meantime resets the time that a package
needs to wait to get to stable. Could bodhi be
Adam Williamson wrote:
How do you expect to be able to maintain an entire desktop environment
on a distribution you don't even have installed? I have some sympathy
for the 'fifty people said it works on F14, it probably works on F12
too' argument, but for a *small, leaf* package, not for an
On 11/21/10 11:00 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
meantime resets the time that a package
needs to wait to get to stable. Could bodhi be changed to let multiple
packages be in the testing repository at one time and only obsolete them
when a newer package enters the stable repo? That would
I wrote:
Adam Williamson wrote:
How do you expect to be able to maintain an entire desktop environment
on a distribution you don't even have installed? I have some sympathy
for the 'fifty people said it works on F14, it probably works on F12
too' argument, but for a *small, leaf* package,
David Nalley wrote:
I think this is an interesting idea, but I'll also say I think it can
be made simpler. Why not just hold package maintainers accountable
period. Make them accountable to FESCo (which in theory they are to
begin with) If I, as a package maintainer continuously want to 'push
On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 23:09 +0100, Jan Kratochvil wrote:
Oh, I forgot, Fedora no longer delivers the fix in a day but ... even not in
a week. Because I usually create new build during the updates-testing week so
the days start to count again.
Andre Robatino wrote:
My feeling is that it would be better for Bodhi to always require a login.
Even Bugzilla does that. I suspect that a lot of people who give anonymous
karma don't realize that it doesn't count, and would have created an
account if they did. And using an account allows
On Sun, 2010-11-21 at 23:04 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
In short: Want higher-quality updates for previous releases? Then push
version upgrades wherever possible (even and especially for libraries, as
long as they're ABI-compatible or can be group-pushed with a small set of
rebuilt reverse
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 10:35:31 +0100,
Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote:
IMHO it is pretty unlikely that people use updates-testing but do not
care about posting feedback to Bodhi.
I usually notice only when something breaks, not when it keeps working.
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On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 00:32:38 +0100, Matt McCutchen wrote:
On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 23:09 +0100, Jan Kratochvil wrote:
One has to give up on backporting new fixes to ever get any delivered.
That's not true. You can continue committing fixes and running builds
in Koji; just don't submit another
On 11/21/2010 17:51, Björn Persson wrote:
Andre Robatino wrote:
My feeling is that it would be better for Bodhi to always require a login.
Even Bugzilla does that. I suspect that a lot of people who give anonymous
karma don't realize that it doesn't count, and would have created an
account if
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:42:00 +0100
Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, 20 Nov 2010 15:35:43 -0700, Kevin wrote:
Other concrete ideas?
As a beginning, let's limit this thread to at most one message per
person per day.
That would be lovely. I guess this would be my sunday
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