Re: software-design in the past and now

2011-07-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2011-07-23 at 11:18 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: first i changed the topic because it does not fit anly longer to this thread Am 23.07.2011 03:41, schrieb Adam Williamson: On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 13:38 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: in the past there were real developers which was

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2011-07-23 at 07:24 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: should not be surprised that you see resistance (what new capability does NFS get from the systemd changes for example!). reliable on-demand automounting, for a start. for which you already owe Lennart about three kegs of beer, by my

Re: Java 7 for Fedora 16

2011-07-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2011-07-23 at 14:00 -0700, Douglas Myers–Turnbull wrote: Hi, Just something I wanted to bring to attention: Java 7 is slated for release (after years of hassle and heated debate) on 28 July, 2011. I think this would be an important feature to include for the Fedora 16 release,

Re: Java 7 for Fedora 16

2011-07-26 Thread Alexander Kurtakov
On 09:33:51 Monday 25 July 2011 Deepak Bhole wrote: * Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com [2011-07-25 15:54]: Toshio Kuratomi (a.bad...@gmail.com) said: Robyn and I have talked about how the feature process could be adapted to allow for more late work to occur however none of that talk has

Re: Java 7 for Fedora 16

2011-07-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:22:08PM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2011-07-23 at 14:00 -0700, Douglas Myers–Turnbull wrote: Hi, Just something I wanted to bring to attention: Java 7 is slated for release (after years of hassle and heated debate) on 28 July, 2011. I think

orphaning / looking for new owner for monkey-bubble

2011-07-26 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, I've been thinking about orphaning monkey-bubble for a while now, mostly because it is dead upstream and it is using various obsolete gnome technologies (esound, libgnomeui, bonobo). Yesterday it came to my attention that monkey-bubble also contains at least 1 sound sample which we should

Re: Java 7 for Fedora 16

2011-07-26 Thread Peter Robinson
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Deepak Bhole dbh...@redhat.com wrote: * Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com [2011-07-23 20:03]: On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 02:00:24PM -0700, Douglas Myers–Turnbull wrote: Hi, Just something I wanted to bring to attention: Java 7 is slated for release

Re: Java 7 for Fedora 16

2011-07-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 00:05 -0700, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: as I always point out when this comes up, in the hopes that it'll eventually irritate someone enough that they go fix the feature process, the option is open to simply put Java 7 in without it being a 'Fedora feature'. If you do it

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning)

2011-07-26 Thread Fabian Deutsch
Hello, It seems as if my first mail (from 12 days ago) got lost: I can take Orphan link-grammar - fabian -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

File Perl-Critic-Pulp-62.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp: 90aff90625ea0659107700302e36843d Perl-Critic-Pulp-62.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp] 0.62 bump

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
commit dccf4e2a5c7c65ed2c49e340189b3ed2f3f711f9 Author: Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jul 26 11:16:13 2011 +0200 0.62 bump .gitignore |1 + perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp.spec | 10 +++--- sources|2 +- 3 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 4

[perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp] Remove 4.8 filters

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 6c8b32c6c6921f2d0d07de2c4920f6ac5430988e Author: Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jul 26 11:20:05 2011 +0200 Remove 4.8 filters perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp.spec | 21 +++-- 1 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-) --- diff --git

[perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp] Fix typo in changelog

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 115abdfc5c196c9d6652b95c0822f7d72fc43301 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jul 26 11:30:14 2011 +0200 Fix typo in changelog perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp.spec |2 +- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp.spec

[Bug 720293] perl-Perl-Critic-Pulp-62 is available

2011-07-26 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=720293 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Andrew Haley
On 26/07/11 10:22, Misha Shnurapet wrote: Since F15 ~/bin has been added to PATH, and commands that are supposed to run user scripts will work without changing into that directory. Meanwhile, ~/.local/bin isn't used. I'd like to propose that it is also added because technically it is ~/bin's

File perl-PPIx-Regexp.spec uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-PPIx-Regexp: 77aacbbd0b54a9d2a57711a222887459 perl-PPIx-Regexp.spec -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-PPIx-Regexp] 0.021 bump

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 199e2e745f412c0005e1b4a34e52b5e0207d6c15 Author: Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jul 26 11:34:08 2011 +0200 0.021 bump .gitignore|1 + perl-PPIx-Regexp.spec |7 +-- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) ---

[perl-PPIx-Regexp] Remove RPM 4.8 filter

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
commit c96e225b016b2fed65f68dc1723de279e2ebc65c Author: Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jul 26 11:36:16 2011 +0200 Remove RPM 4.8 filter perl-PPIx-Regexp.spec |4 +--- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-PPIx-Regexp.spec

Re: Systemd transition prevents updating older release branches??

2011-07-26 Thread Michal Hlavinka
On 07/25/2011 09:07 PM, Tom Lane wrote: In https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:ScriptletSnippets#Systemd I read that conversion of a package using a SysV initscript to systemd units requires a trigger with a NEVR condition, and that # Note: the NEVR in trigger scripts should all be

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-26 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 07/26/2011 02:15 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2011-07-23 at 07:24 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: should not be surprised that you see resistance (what new capability does NFS get from the systemd changes for example!). reliable on-demand automounting, for a start. for which you already

[perl-Padre] RPM 4.9 dependency filtering added

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 4827e8c86f0a6bf8e9e00f547e5e02b49e6f4989 Author: Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jul 26 13:16:38 2011 +0200 RPM 4.9 dependency filtering added perl-Padre.spec | 44 +++- 1 files changed, 43 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff

Re: Systemd transition prevents updating older release branches??

2011-07-26 Thread Matthias Saou
Toshio Kuratomi wrote : Regarding the fragility argument in reply to notting's clarification; do note that the fragility there only lasts until that Fedora release goes EOL and therefore can no longer receive updates) less than a year now for Fedora 15. The fragility of packagers remembering

Re: usb_modeswitch/usb_modeswitch-data outdated

2011-07-26 Thread Xose Vazquez Perez
Huzaifa Sidhpurwala wrote: taken care of this, sorry for the delay :) -thank you- now waiting for the maintainer of usb_modeswitch: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=625004 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning)

2011-07-26 Thread Marc Grimme
- Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Each release, before branching, we block currently orphaned packages. It's that time again for Fedora 16. New this go-round is that we are also blocking packages that have failed to build since before Fedora 14. The following packages are

One easy review swap: 669911 / guestfs-browser

2011-07-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669911#c5 Review Request: guestfs-browser - Guest filesystem browser Spec: http://oirase.annexia.org/reviews/guestfs-browser/guestfs-browser.spec SRPM: http://oirase.annexia.org/reviews/guestfs-browser/guestfs-browser-0.1.6-1.fc15.src.rpm This is a

Re: No new repos being built for dist-f16?

2011-07-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:54:24PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: newRepo seems to fail, although it's not clear why. http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3230556 Maybe something to do with branching? For whatever reason, this has fixed itself now. Rich. -- Richard

Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Misha Shnurapet
26.07.2011, 18:34, Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com: On 26/07/11 10:22, Misha Shnurapet wrote:  Since F15 ~/bin has been added to PATH, and commands that are  supposed to run user scripts will work without changing into that  directory. Meanwhile, ~/.local/bin isn't used. I'd like to propose  

Re: orphaning / looking for new owner for monkey-bubble

2011-07-26 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 09:12:54 +0200, Hans de Goede hdego...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, I've been thinking about orphaning monkey-bubble for a while now, mostly because it is dead upstream and it is using various obsolete gnome technologies (esound, libgnomeui, bonobo). Yesterday it came

Re: merge into dist-f16

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 08:44:44AM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 07:38:11PM +0200, Marcela Mašláňová wrote: b/ filters still not converted/checked perl-Language-Functional perl-libwww-perl perl-LWP-Protocol-https perl-Math-Random-MT-Auto

Re: Packages affected by RPM 4.9 filtering [was: News from rebuild]

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 03:19:45PM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 01:14:09PM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 01:03:28PM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 03:56:22PM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:08:40AM +0200, Petr

Re: orphaning / looking for new owner for monkey-bubble

2011-07-26 Thread Richard Shaw
Just to add my $0.02, I installed both monkey bubble and frozen bubble for the kids and they definitely like frozen bubble more and otherwise they're functionally equivalent. Richard -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

NFSv4 / POSIX ACL mapping bug?

2011-07-26 Thread Robert Marcano
Hi, I need some help clarifying this issue in order to know if this is a bug or limits of the NFSv4 / POSIX ACL mapping before reporting it Creating a directory on the server with the following POSIX ACLs, rwx for the group sharedgroup and same defaults:

[perl-Kwiki-UserPreferences] Add RPM 4.9 style filters

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Sabata
commit b40f91e83382c2d05f0d87b67147ff278bf4b7a5 Author: Petr Sabata con...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jul 26 14:59:28 2011 +0200 Add RPM 4.9 style filters perl-Kwiki-UserPreferences.spec |8 +++- 1 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git

Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/26/2011 08:03 AM, Misha Shnurapet wrote: 26.07.2011, 18:34, Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com: On 26/07/11 10:22, Misha Shnurapet wrote: Since F15 ~/bin has been added to PATH, and commands that are supposed to run user scripts will work without changing into that directory. Meanwhile,

Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Robert Marcano
On 07/26/2011 08:36 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: On 07/26/2011 08:03 AM, Misha Shnurapet wrote: 26.07.2011, 18:34, Andrew Haleya...@redhat.com: On 26/07/11 10:22, Misha Shnurapet wrote: Since F15 ~/bin has been added to PATH, and commands that are supposed to run user scripts will work

Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/26/2011 09:15 AM, Robert Marcano wrote: In /etc/skel/.bash_profile they are added to the end and I think that is ok PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin Never knew about ~/.local/bin my .bash_profile is really old from the time where the default was only ~/bin Mmm ok ... Can I

Self Introduction

2011-07-26 Thread Simon Thompson
Hi, My name's Simon, I'm a sys admin/developer type in Computer Science at University of Birmingham. We've got a couple of hundred workstations running variants of SL6/CentOS and I'd done various bits and pieces packaging up software to support our teaching here. Along with rebuilding stuff from

Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Genes MailLists [26/07/2011 15:14] : On 26/07/11 10:22, Misha Shnurapet wrote: Unlike ~/bin, which is in PATH though not even created. It's the other way round on my machine. Both are in my $PATH but ~/bin exists (I may have created it by hand) and ~/.local/bin/ doesn't. Where in

Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Genes MailLists [26/07/2011 15:32] : Mmm ok ... Can I assume root is excepted from this? You can. That is the case. Emmanuel -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: merge into dist-f16

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 02:43:42PM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: Currently not-rebuild packages are: perl-Fedora-Rebuild perl-Fedora-Rebuild done. perl-MongoDB perl-NOCpulse-Debug perl-NOCpulse-Gritch perl-NOCpulse-Object perl-Perlbal-XS-HTTPHeaders perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule perl-threads-tbb

Re: merge into dist-f16

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 02:43:42PM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: Currently not-rebuild packages are: [...] perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule This package had problems in previous releases (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=611015), current problem is tracked at upstream

Re: One easy review swap: 669911 / guestfs-browser

2011-07-26 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 13:02 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=669911#c5 Review Request: guestfs-browser - Guest filesystem browser Spec: http://oirase.annexia.org/reviews/guestfs-browser/guestfs-browser.spec SRPM:

Re: No new repos being built for dist-f16?

2011-07-26 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 13:03 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:54:24PM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: newRepo seems to fail, although it's not clear why. http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3230556 Maybe something to do with branching?

Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/26/2011 09:34 AM, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: * Genes MailLists [26/07/2011 15:32] : Mmm ok ... Can I assume root is excepted from this? You can. That is the case. Emmanuel :-) -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Robert Marcano
On 07/26/2011 09:04 AM, Emmanuel Seyman wrote: * Genes MailLists [26/07/2011 15:32] : Mmm ok ... Can I assume root is excepted from this? You can. That is the case. a clean F15 install has PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin, not the same /etc/skel/.bash_profile but still has ~/bin Emmanuel --

Re: One easy review swap: 669911 / guestfs-browser

2011-07-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 07:13:18PM +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote: Can you please review nifticlib[1]? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=714047 No problem, I'll do it right now. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones New in Fedora 11:

Re: Systemd transition prevents updating older release branches??

2011-07-26 Thread Tom Lane
Matthias Saou th...@spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.egg.and.spam.freshrpms.net writes: Toshio Kuratomi wrote : Regarding the fragility argument in reply to notting's clarification; do note that the fragility there only lasts until that Fedora release goes EOL and therefore can no longer

File Mojolicious-1.65.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by yaneti

2011-07-26 Thread Yanko Kaneti
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Mojolicious: b9cff0ff045d1ca5cb55d41ce90c1f5b Mojolicious-1.65.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: merge into dist-f16

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 02:43:42PM +0200, Petr Pisar wrote: Currently not-rebuild packages are: perl-Fedora-Rebuild perl-MongoDB perl-NOCpulse-Debug perl-NOCpulse-Gritch perl-NOCpulse-Object perl-Perlbal-XS-HTTPHeaders perl-Perlbal-XS-HTTPHeaders is with Perlbal in cycle. I will break

[perl-Mojolicious] Upstream update 1.65

2011-07-26 Thread Yanko Kaneti
commit cb0f6b62d359d1d58937bc20aeadb9ae58b81323 Author: Yanko Kaneti yan...@declera.com Date: Tue Jul 26 17:40:47 2011 +0300 Upstream update 1.65 .gitignore|1 + perl-Mojolicious.spec |9 ++--- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 4

Re: Systemd transition prevents updating older release branches??

2011-07-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:37:43AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: Matthias Saou th...@spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.spam.egg.and.spam.freshrpms.net writes: Toshio Kuratomi wrote : Regarding the fragility argument in reply to notting's clarification; do note that the fragility there only lasts

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning)

2011-07-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 01:56:36PM +0200, Marc Grimme wrote: - Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Each release, before branching, we block currently orphaned packages. It's that time again for Fedora 16. New this go-round is that we are also blocking packages that have

Re: Self Introduction

2011-07-26 Thread Rich Mattes
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 9:28 AM, Simon Thompson s...@roamingzebra.co.ukwrote: Hi, My name's Simon, I'm a sys admin/developer type in Computer Science at University of Birmingham. We've got a couple of hundred workstations running variants of SL6/CentOS and I'd done various bits and pieces

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning)

2011-07-26 Thread Bill Nottingham
Fabian Deutsch (fabian.deut...@gmx.de) said: It seems as if my first mail (from 12 days ago) got lost: I can take Orphan link-grammar It's not a matter of can you; you need to go to pkgdb to claim it. (Sorry if the original mail didn't make this clear.) Bill -- devel mailing list

TBB (Threading Building Blocks) rebase

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Machata
Hi there, I rebased TBB to 3.0. This should even be ABI-stable release--upstream didn't bump the SONAME, and I verified that no ABI-looking symbols disappeared. Thanks, PM -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning)

2011-07-26 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 03:51:16PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: Till Maas (opensou...@till.name) said: Just wondering: Did the comaintainers get a copy of this mail? Only inasmuch as they're subscribed to devel@. I hereby propose to change this in the future and explicitly CC

Sparc test machine

2011-07-26 Thread Sergio Belkin
I'd like to port UpTools package to sparc architecture. By chance is some test sparc machine there running Fedora? Thanks in advance! -- -- Sergio Belkin  http://www.sergiobelkin.com Watch More TV http://sebelk.blogspot.com LPIC-2 Certified - http://www.lpi.org -- devel mailing list

rawhide openssh-server update kills sshd

2011-07-26 Thread Jim Meyering
FYI, I've just yum-updated my rawhide VM to the latest (but not from the console) and was surprised to lose the connection while it was happening. Again. It happened to me last week, too. I got back in via the console and tried to reinstall it via yum reinstall openssh-server. That failed

Re: rawhide openssh-server update kills sshd

2011-07-26 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 07/26/2011 12:22 PM, Jim Meyering wrote: snip service ssh restart Would that be: service sshd restart ? -- Regards, OldFart -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning)

2011-07-26 Thread Jesse Keating
On 7/26/11 8:48 AM, Till Maas wrote: I hereby propose to change this in the future and explicitly CC comaintainers to make them aware that their package is orphaned. This can easily be done by just mailing package-ow...@fedoraproject.org It will get to all co-maintainers. -- Jesse Keating

Re: Systemd transition prevents updating older release branches??

2011-07-26 Thread Bill Nottingham
Tom Lane (t...@redhat.com) said: Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com writes: Tom Lane (t...@redhat.com) said: IOW, once I push a mysql update with native systemd support into rawhide, I'll be forbidden from ever rebasing mysql in F15 up to a newer upstream patch release. Considering

Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH (was: Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH)

2011-07-26 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 08:45:11AM -0430, Robert Marcano wrote: On 07/26/2011 08:36 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: On 07/26/2011 08:03 AM, Misha Shnurapet wrote: 26.07.2011, 18:34, Andrew Haleya...@redhat.com: On 26/07/11 10:22, Misha Shnurapet wrote: Since F15 ~/bin has been added to

Re: rawhide openssh-server update kills sshd

2011-07-26 Thread Jim Meyering
Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: On 07/26/2011 12:22 PM, Jim Meyering wrote: snip service ssh restart Would that be: service sshd restart Yes, thanks. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH (was: Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH)

2011-07-26 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 17:49:43 +0100 Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 08:45:11AM -0430, Robert Marcano wrote: On 07/26/2011 08:36 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: On 07/26/2011 08:03 AM, Misha Shnurapet wrote: 26.07.2011, 18:34, Andrew Haleya...@redhat.com:

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Josh Stone
On 07/26/2011 09:49 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 08:45:11AM -0430, Robert Marcano wrote: In /etc/skel/.bash_profile they are added to the end and I think that is ok PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin This was added between bash-4.2.10 -2 and -3:

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 07/26/2011 12:49 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin This was added between bash-4.2.10 -2 and -3: http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=bash.git;a=commitdiff;h=02b20d810111e8b53bb98ad49fedd1d583ce62e1 because of

Re: Systemd transition prevents updating older release branches??

2011-07-26 Thread Ville Skyttä
On 07/26/2011 12:48 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Ville recently proposed a different set of scriptlets that would do away with triggers but no one's committed to testing that the triggers work in all cases (lots of package upgrades and lots of reboots are needed to test that the scriptlets

Re: [ACTION REQUIRED] Retiring packages in F-16 (final warning)

2011-07-26 Thread Fabian Deutsch
Am Dienstag, den 26.07.2011, 11:28 -0400 schrieb Bill Nottingham: Fabian Deutsch (fabian.deut...@gmx.de) said: It seems as if my first mail (from 12 days ago) got lost: I can take Orphan link-grammar It's not a matter of can you; you need to go to pkgdb to claim it. (Sorry if the

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosow...@nist.gov said: On 07/26/2011 12:49 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin This was added between bash-4.2.10 -2 and -3:

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 26.07.11 15:05, Przemek Klosowski (przemek.klosow...@nist.gov) wrote: On 07/26/2011 12:49 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: PATH=$PATH:$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin This was added between bash-4.2.10 -2 and -3:

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Genes MailLists
On 07/26/2011 03:34 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: I don't think it makes a lot of sense to have a visible directory for binaries. People will see that, and be annoyed. Perhaps, but hiding things annoys many people more ... not a huge deal as .config is not too hidden anyway ... Note

RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-07-26 Thread Jerry James
I just did a package-cleanup --orphans on my Rawhide machine to see which of the just-blocked packages are installed there. To my surprise, I got this: # package-cleanup --orphans Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit [snip stuff that I need to take care

Re: rawhide openssh-server update kills sshd

2011-07-26 Thread Dave Jones
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 06:22:50PM +0200, Jim Meyering wrote: FYI, I've just yum-updated my rawhide VM to the latest (but not from the console) and was surprised to lose the connection while it was happening. Again. It happened to me last week, too. I got back in via the console and

Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-07-26 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 13:59:51 -0600, JJ (Jerry) wrote: I just did a package-cleanup --orphans on my Rawhide machine to see which of the just-blocked packages are installed there. To my surprise, I got this: # package-cleanup --orphans Loaded plugins: auto-update-debuginfo, langpacks,

Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-07-26 Thread Jerry James
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, It got untagged. See last week's thread on this list: Subject: rpm builds failing with Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found Thanks for the replies, Tomas and Michael. I somehow missed the part where I needed

Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-07-26 Thread Jesse Keating
On 7/26/11 1:14 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: Yes, It got untagged. See last week's thread on this list: Subject: rpm builds failing with Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found I thought there was a hard rule about not having nvrs go backwards, and if a bad build was put out, it should be

Re: rawhide openssh-server update kills sshd

2011-07-26 Thread Paul Howarth
On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:13:59 -0400 Dave Jones da...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 06:22:50PM +0200, Jim Meyering wrote: FYI, I've just yum-updated my rawhide VM to the latest (but not from the console) and was surprised to lose the connection while it was happening. Again.

Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-07-26 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 13:24 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On 7/26/11 1:14 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: Yes, It got untagged. See last week's thread on this list: Subject: rpm builds failing with Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found I thought there was a hard rule about not having nvrs go

Re: rawhide openssh-server update kills sshd

2011-07-26 Thread James Antill
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 21:28 +0100, Paul Howarth wrote: On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 16:13:59 -0400 Dave Jones da...@redhat.com wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 06:22:50PM +0200, Jim Meyering wrote: FYI, I've just yum-updated my rawhide VM to the latest (but not from the console) and was

Re: RPM version goes backward in Rawhide

2011-07-26 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 01:24:58PM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote: On 7/26/11 1:14 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote: Yes, It got untagged. See last week's thread on this list: Subject: rpm builds failing with Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found I thought there was a hard rule about not having

Re: rawhide openssh-server update kills sshd

2011-07-26 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 26.07.11 17:16, James Antill (ja...@fedoraproject.org) wrote: Perhaps it's because in %postun it has systemctl try-restart sshd.service where it used to have service sshd condrestart, and systemd kills all running sshd processes whereas the old one only killed the main one and not

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 26.7.2011 20:40, Bernd Stramm napsal(a): Oh it seems every useful for purposes like installing executables that most users will never find. Actually I would prefer ~/.local/bin to ~/bin ... I actually use ~/ as my workspace (I never got what's the point of ~/Desktop) so I don't want to

Re: rawhide openssh-server update kills sshd

2011-07-26 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:46:30PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: If restarting sshd kills the sshs sessions then my guess is that pam_systemd is not enabled (or somehow failing) and hence user sessions stay members of the sshd cgroup instead of getting their own. Lennart, is pam_systemd a

Re: Meeting minutes/summary for 2011-07-25 FESCo meeting

2011-07-26 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/25/2011 06:37 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 07/25/2011 06:22 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: * need to get audidt #617321 iscsi #714688 NFS-Utils #699040 Tigervnc #717227 dnsmasq #694932 openvpn #714710 speech-dispatcherd #697600 smolt #697612 wpa_supplicant #661230 done

Naming

2011-07-26 Thread Nathan Owens
I am probably going to try and package Peerguardian, and the question is what should I name it, because the tarball is named pgl_noGUI. should I name it pgl, pgl_nogui, pgl-console or possibly just peerguardian? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Matej Cepl mc...@redhat.com said: Dne 26.7.2011 20:40, Bernd Stramm napsal(a): Oh it seems every useful for purposes like installing executables that most users will never find. Actually I would prefer ~/.local/bin to ~/bin ... I actually use ~/ as my workspace (I never

Re: Adding ~/.local/bin to default PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Misha Shnurapet
27.07.2011, 10:17, Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net: I've used ~/bin since before Linux was available, so I don't really see the point in trying to hide it (of course, I alias ls to ls -FCA, so ~/.bin wouldn't be hidden, just one extra character to type when I need to access it). Noone has

[Test-Announce] Fedora 16 branch today

2011-07-26 Thread Adam Williamson
Just a heads-up to let everyone know that Fedora 16 is now branched from Rawhide. This means that we're now into the phase where pre-Beta requirements for updates apply (see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy): updates-testing is in effect for F16, so if you're running F16, remember to

Re: User-level instance of /bin in PATH

2011-07-26 Thread Braden McDaniel
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 08:45 -0430, Robert Marcano wrote: On 07/26/2011 08:36 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: On 07/26/2011 08:03 AM, Misha Shnurapet wrote: 26.07.2011, 18:34, Andrew Haleya...@redhat.com: On 26/07/11 10:22, Misha Shnurapet wrote: Since F15 ~/bin has been added to PATH, and

Re: thanks for F15 mdadm systemd unit

2011-07-26 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 07:07 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: On 07/26/2011 02:15 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat, 2011-07-23 at 07:24 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: should not be surprised that you see resistance (what new capability does NFS get from the systemd changes for example!).

[perl-Statistics-Basic] Bump release.

2011-07-26 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
commit f17642fad55f7cacd375e73e91c63ff04f634cf8 Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jul 26 08:25:09 2011 +0200 Bump release. perl-Statistics-Basic.spec |4 ++-- 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Statistics-Basic.spec

Re: merge into dist-f16

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 07:38:11PM +0200, Marcela Mašláňová wrote: b/ filters still not converted/checked perl-Language-Functional perl-libwww-perl perl-LWP-Protocol-https perl-Math-Random-MT-Auto perl-Math-Symbolic perl-Memoize-ExpireLRU perl-Module-Mask

Re: merge into dist-f16

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 07:38:11PM +0200, Marcela Mašláňová wrote: Hello list, merge was done. I'm checking mistakes between dist-f16 and dist-f16-perl, but it looks good. I've compared both build roots. We have 1865 equaled perl packages in both branches (i.e. merged succesfully), 0

[perl-LWP-Protocol-https] Fix typo in filter

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
commit af12ba4756d2dd6b76f636126f0d332ab0a5cc21 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jul 26 09:25:37 2011 +0200 Fix typo in filter perl-LWP-Protocol-https.spec |2 +- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-LWP-Protocol-https.spec

[perl-PathTools] Fix typo in filter

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Pisar
commit e76fd5c50c36a82274eb4a796f285ccc202d3c3e Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jul 26 09:52:57 2011 +0200 Fix typo in filter perl-PathTools.spec |2 +- 1 files changed, 1 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-PathTools.spec b/perl-PathTools.spec index

[perl-POE-Filter-HTTP-Parser] add RPM4.9 macro filter

2011-07-26 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
commit a27cea5377b0fe116edfb81c861e17a953bde443 Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jul 26 09:59:29 2011 +0200 add RPM4.9 macro filter perl-POE-Filter-HTTP-Parser.spec |7 ++- 1 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git

[Bug 725375] perl-Inline-Files-0.68 is available

2011-07-26 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=725375 Petr Sabata psab...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

[Bug 724927] perl-Module-ScanDeps-1.04 is available

2011-07-26 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=724927 Petr Sabata psab...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added

[perl-Perl-Metrics-Simple] add RPM4.9 macro filter

2011-07-26 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
commit 62be7f1f52c4327bfaf3ae0a1642946ce5b899c1 Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com Date: Tue Jul 26 10:07:46 2011 +0200 add RPM4.9 macro filter perl-Perl-Metrics-Simple.spec | 10 +- 1 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git

File Test-Most-0.24.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by psabata

2011-07-26 Thread Petr Sabata
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Test-Most: f9c6eadbb84456f3ae5a6b190adf0084 Test-Most-0.24.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

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