On 12. 11. 2012 at 17:59:00, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Richard Vickery said:
> > Change still frightens people to varying degree s., and many busy
> > end-users
> > may not have time to read pages in order to learn a new command
>
> It is in _development_ and is just in F18 as a previ
On 11/13/2012 05:05 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Rex Dieter mailto:rdie...@math.unl.edu>> wrote:
See also,
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=875954
orionp and I were discussing on irc today, the idea to add
-DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=ReleaseWithDebI
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 08:07:39PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
> Yeah, that's a thing that probably could be done. Bug again I'd
> like some input from people who have made the switch to these
> packages being mandatory.
Well, I think it's just that the policy for a long time that since core
isn'
On 11/12/2012 05:25 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 12:27:34PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
But there was a non-UI way. Does that no longer work?
The non-UI way was kickstart. But you can't deselect (-) mandatory
packages in a group. @core is primarily made up of mandatory
pa
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Rex Dieter wrote:
> See also,
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=875954
>
> orionp and I were discussing on irc today, the idea to add
> -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=ReleaseWithDebInfo
> to %cmake by default in /etc/rpm/macros.cmake , while making it easy to
> se
Am 12.11.2012 21:49, schrieb Kevin Kofler:
> Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>> Maybe one day we'll have good nested virt though ...
>
> Nested virt would really be the right solution, if we can make it work with
> today's hardware. It feels quite wrong that virtualization can do everything
> except
The iprutils package provides utilities for IBM Power Linux RAID adapters.
Up until current rawhide, this was exclusive to that architecture. However,
now it's built on all archs (because these devices _may_ be found there).
I know anaconda currently does some magic to install storage-related
pac
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:05:50PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 07:04:29PM -0800, Brian C. Lane wrote:
> > > adapting livecd creator to run on a cloud instance rather than with
> > > virt locally. Or something. Any ideas?
> > livemedia-creator has a --no-vitr mode which us
On 2012-11-12 12:59, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Dennis Gilmore said:
El Fri, 9 Nov 2012 17:33:05 +0100
Matej Cepl escribió:
> a) Why installer requires 2-4 times more memory than any other
> program running on my computer (and the software you use on it
could
> be a good example of
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 05:48:05PM -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
>
> Its not available because ive not yet worked out the magic to be able
> to create a chroot with the target bits i.e. f18 and run
> livemedia-creator in the chroot and have it spin up a vm and do the
> install etc and work as it ne
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 07:04:29PM -0800, Brian C. Lane wrote:
> > adapting livecd creator to run on a cloud instance rather than with
> > virt locally. Or something. Any ideas?
> livemedia-creator has a --no-vitr mode which uses anaconda's --image
> install mode. It doesn't currently work for F18,
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 11:12:20AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 07:25:35PM -0800, Brian C. Lane wrote:
> > I think appliance-creator is pretty much unsupported at this point,
> > isn't it?
>
> Yes, so moving to ami-creator might be a good choice.
>
> > livemedia-creator
So IMO I think now that we can accept different database tools into
repo,it's available for us to include mariadb.Official says they will try
to become a independent software but not a mod based on MySQL...
Maybe easy for review? I don't know exactly...
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I don't know Fedora minimal looks like...FOR SERVER USE the Minimal
includes:
Network support;
BASH;
Maybe some development tools also.
Nothing else.
BUT FOR DESKTOP USE,I think it should also have a desktop based on server
version...That's what is troubling me...If it has a built-in desktop,I
do
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 8:06 PM, Christopher Meng wrote:
> I just found this.
>
> https://kb.askmonty.org/en/mariadb-1000-changelog
Nice find. Are you suggesting anything?
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On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 10:13:54AM +0800, Christopher Meng wrote:
> I think a minimal image is just like centos minimal.
Care to share what that means?
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I think a minimal image is just like centos minimal.
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I just found this.
https://kb.askmonty.org/en/mariadb-1000-changelog
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On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 12:27:34PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
> >But there was a non-UI way. Does that no longer work?
> The non-UI way was kickstart. But you can't deselect (-) mandatory
> packages in a group. @core is primarily made up of mandatory
> packages.
Huh. I could swear I've done tha
Once upon a time, Richard Vickery said:
> Change still frightens people to varying degree s., and many busy end-users
> may not have time to read pages in order to learn a new command
It is in _development_ and is just in F18 as a preview. If/when it is
ready to replace yum, it may get a symlink
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
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On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 07:25:35PM -0800, Brian C. Lane wrote:
I think appliance-creator is pretty much unsupported at this point,
isn't it?
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> On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 05:35:16PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 11:12:20AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > We could maybe engineer an alternate build proc
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> On Fri, Nov 09, 2012 at 07:25:35PM -0800, Brian C. Lane wrote:
> > I think appliance-creator is pretty much unsupported at this point,
> > isn't it?
>
> Yes, so moving to ami-creator migh
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Change still frightens people to varying degree s., and many busy end-users
may not have time to read pages in order to learn a new command
On Nov 12, 2012 1:46 PM, "Chris Adams" wrote:
> Once upon a time, Richard Vickery said:
> > If dnf is no improvement, then I'd rather we stick with yum; mes
See also,
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=875954
orionp and I were discussing on irc today, the idea to add
-DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=ReleaseWithDebInfo
to %cmake by default in /etc/rpm/macros.cmake , while making it easy to
set/override manually, similar to how %_cmake_lib_suffix64 is curr
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 01:42:02PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 07:10:21PM +0100, Petr Lautrbach wrote:
> > A thin client would probably not want to install openssh-server.
>
> Bringing us back around to the point of this thread. :)
>
> Thin client is one use case.
>
>
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 09:49:58PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > Maybe one day we'll have good nested virt though ...
>
> Nested virt would really be the right solution, if we can make it work with
> today's hardware. It feels quite wrong that virtualization can do ev
Once upon a time, Richard Vickery said:
> If dnf is no improvement, then I'd rather we stick with yum; messing with
> something new just means spending time that I don't have trying to learn
> that new command. This is incredibly cumbersome. If at all possible, please
> stay with yum.
You should
On 11/12/2012 09:36 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
FESCo decided the benefit to always having mini-debuginfo
available outweighed the downside of increased space.
I see done to making abrt atleast somewhat usable
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If dnf is no improvement, then I'd rather we stick with yum; messing with
something new just means spending time that I don't have trying to learn
that new command. This is incredibly cumbersome. If at all possible, please
stay with yum.
On Nov 12, 2012 10:53 AM, "Kevin Kofler" wrote:
> Seth Vida
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 22:12:21 +0100
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> I *AM* a member of the KDE SIG and have de-facto maintained the KDE
> spin kickstart ever since Sebastian Vahl (the official maintainer)
> has stopped taking care of it. FESCo has clearly said that they don't
> care about our size target an
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 21:09:42 +
"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> On 11/12/2012 09:05 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
> >> >Last time I checked the SIG's surrounding each of those spins they
> >> >themselves where responsible for their own spins sizes so if they
> >> >p
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
> Fesco needs to provide the reasoning behind that decision to me it makes
> no sense since the community surrounding their spins are the once that
> actually decide what goes on them since they are the once doing their
> own leg work...
Their reasoning was simply that
In data lunedì 12 novembre 2012 08:53:19, Kevin Fenzi ha scritto:
> It happens.
>
> I've pushed the commits to mark it dead.package now.
>
> Please let me know if you still see anything amiss and I will help you
> fix it up.
Thank you very much Kevin!
Everything should be ok now!
Thanks to Nicola
Adam Williamson wrote:
> They already aren't. Half the point of going to 1GB would be to include
> them.
There's no way LibreOffice is going to fit on the KDE spin with a 1 GiB
target limit. We're already almost there no thanks to "Mini"DebugInfo. We'd
need an even higher target size to fit Libr
On 11/12/2012 09:05 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
>Last time I checked the SIG's surrounding each of those spins they
>themselves where responsible for their own spins sizes so if they pass
>that they might just as well be doing so deliberately to deliver better
>out of th
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
> Last time I checked the SIG's surrounding each of those spins they
> themselves where responsible for their own spins sizes so if they pass
> that they might just as well be doing so deliberately to deliver better
> out of the box experience for their target user base
Once upon a time, Dennis Gilmore said:
> El Fri, 9 Nov 2012 17:33:05 +0100
> Matej Cepl escribió:
> > a) Why installer requires 2-4 times more memory than any other
> > program running on my computer (and the software you use on it could
> > be a good example of SOHO server)?
>
> My email client
Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> Maybe one day we'll have good nested virt though ...
Nested virt would really be the right solution, if we can make it work with
today's hardware. It feels quite wrong that virtualization can do everything
except virtualizing, it kinda breaks the abstraction.
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 02:53:01PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 09:53:13PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > I really don't understand why a core system component such as firewalld is
> > implemented in Python!
>
> Here, I mostly don't see the reason for it to be running al
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Benny Amorsen wrote:
Seth Vidal writes:
fantastic. show me a deployment somewhere of a 'thin client' that
doesn't use their own custom kickstart/pxe for instantiating the
clients and that will be relevant to this discussion.
Is kickstart installs generally out of sco
Seth Vidal writes:
> fantastic. show me a deployment somewhere of a 'thin client' that
> doesn't use their own custom kickstart/pxe for instantiating the
> clients and that will be relevant to this discussion.
Is kickstart installs generally out of scope for minimal package set?
The problem used
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Matej Cepl escribió:
> On 2012-11-09, 14:30 GMT, David Cantrell wrote:
> > Just to cite similar complaints I see from time to time... It
> > irritates me that people think it's a problem that in 2012 they
> > can't
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Jesse Keating wrote:
On 11/12/2012 12:17 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 12:08:38PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
To be fair if we're talking about redefining what goes into @core
(which cannot be deselected, and mandatory items cannot be
deselected) the
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 12:21:43PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
> >>To be fair if we're talking about redefining what goes into @core
> >>(which cannot be deselected, and mandatory items cannot be
> >>deselected) then even those doing kickstart/pxe are relevant to the
> >>discussion.
> >Is it now th
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 12:08:38PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
> To be fair if we're talking about redefining what goes into @core
> (which cannot be deselected, and mandatory items cannot be
> deselected) then even those doing kickstart/pxe are relevant to the
> discussion.
Is it now the case tha
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Petr Lautrbach wrote:
which was, in fact, what I said.
scp is something people expect to be able to use on servers to send files
over. that it is not there makes the server install feel a touch awkward.
that's all.
A thin client would probably not want to install op
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 09:53:13PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> I really don't understand why a core system component such as firewalld is
> implemented in Python!
Here, I mostly don't see the reason for it to be running all the time.
Couldn't it be dbus activated, and then go away when it's not
On 11/12/2012 09:43 AM, Panu Matilainen wrote:
On 11/12/2012 08:56 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On 2012-11-11 22:02, Panu Matilainen wrote:
Based on a quick grep, it doesn't seem to consider obsoletion at all,
which explains what I see on the DVD and perhaps deserves looking at.
I think the ba
Once upon a time, Miloslav Trmač said:
> Sure. Now create a hash table indexed by a tuple, or for more
> challenge by an unordered set of strings. Or have all items of the
> same type hashed by three different fields for fast lookups.
If I were trying to do all that, I'd probably just go with a
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Miloslav Trmač said:
>> - Much easier access to higher-level (and more efficient!) data
>> structures. C programs frequently use linked lists instead of e.g.
>> hash tables simply because maintaining hash tables and the asso
On Monday, November 12, 2012 08:15:48 PM Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Jan Zelený wrote:
> >> Yes, that's the plan. But dnf is still Python. So if we really want to
> >> get Python out of minimal install, there is a room for possible
> >> alternat
Once upon a time, Miloslav Trmač said:
> - Much easier access to higher-level (and more efficient!) data
> structures. C programs frequently use linked lists instead of e.g.
> hash tables simply because maintaining hash tables and the associated
> memory allocation is just too complex.
Hash tabl
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Jan Zelený wrote:
>> Yes, that's the plan. But dnf is still Python. So if we really want to get
>> Python out of minimal install, there is a room for possible alternatives I
>> guess.
>
> Right. We need to stop writing core system components i
On Monday, November 12, 2012 12:27:52 PM Dan Williams wrote:
> On Sat, 2012-11-10 at 02:33 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > Apparently the new version of polkit brings in javascript. The js
> > > package
> > > is 6.5MB. I think anything that uses polkit will depend on it -
Jan Zelený wrote:
> Yes, that's the plan. But dnf is still Python. So if we really want to get
> Python out of minimal install, there is a room for possible alternatives I
> guess.
Right. We need to stop writing core system components in scripting
languages!
> But none of this is certainly happe
Seth Vidal wrote:
> Yum will likely be replaced with dnf afaik. I don't think zif is under
> consideration at all.
That's exactly what I'm complaining about. Dnf is no improvement over yum at
all, zif would bring real advantages through the simple fact that it's
native code, not Python. Native C
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 07:10:21PM +0100, Petr Lautrbach wrote:
> A thin client would probably not want to install openssh-server.
Bringing us back around to the point of this thread. :)
Thin client is one use case.
Server base is another.
JEOS cloud image is another.
We don't necessarily have
On Sat, 2012-11-10 at 00:45 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Fri, 09.11.12 11:42, Daniel Drake (d...@laptop.org) wrote:
>
> > Hi Bill
> >
> > I see that initscripts in F18 ships this udev rule:
> >
> > ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="net", PROGRAM="/lib/udev/rename_device",
> > RESULT=="?*", ENV
On 11/12/2012 06:44 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Petr Lautrbach wrote:
scp is a ssh client. It connects to other host using a ssh connection and runs
'scp -t' or 'scp -f'
commands on the remote side. From my point of view, it's same as any other
program you can use via
ssh an
On Sat, 2012-11-10 at 02:33 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Matthew Miller wrote:
> > Apparently the new version of polkit brings in javascript. The js package
> > is 6.5MB. I think anything that uses polkit will depend on it -- can we
> > remove it from core?
>
> Of course, the real question is why
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=875789
Bug ID: 875789
Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
Severity: unspecified
Version: rawhide
Priority: unspecified
CC: mmasl...@redhat.c
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=875787
Bug ID: 875787
Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
Severity: unspecified
Version: rawhide
Priority: unspecified
CC: mmasl...@redhat.c
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 09:41:22AM +0100, Florian Weimer wrote:
> On 11/10/2012 05:26 PM, Ville Skyttä wrote:
> >On 2012-11-09 18:27, Matthew Miller wrote:
> >>The js package is 6.5MB.
> >
> >BTW I suppose that could be significantly reduced by linking /usr/bin/js
> >with the dynamic libmozjs inste
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=875784
Bug ID: 875784
Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
QA Contact: extras...@fedoraproject.org
Severity: unspecified
Version: rawhide
Priority: unspecified
CC: mmasl...@redhat.c
On Seg, 2012-11-12 at 08:49 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On 11/12/2012 08:45 AM, drago01 wrote:
> > And there was a third option ... port over the old anaconda to the F18
> > changes. (so you'd have less changes).
>
> Which would have taken just about as long to get working, and would
> delay t
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Petr Lautrbach wrote:
scp is a ssh client. It connects to other host using a ssh connection and
runs 'scp -t' or 'scp -f'
commands on the remote side. From my point of view, it's same as any other
program you can use via
ssh and I believe that openssh-clients is the rig
On 11/12/2012 06:10 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
On 11/12/2012 06:03 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Tomas Mraz wrote:
On Mon, 2012-11-12 at 11:37 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Nov
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 05:58:01PM +0100, drago01 wrote:
> How so? You'd have to just port over the other layers to work with the
> new stuff and in F19 focus on the UI.
> Now you had to do both at the same time with the same amount of man power.
I haven't looked at the new code, but I've spent a
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
On 11/12/2012 06:03 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Tomas Mraz wrote:
On Mon, 2012-11-12 at 11:37 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:29:34AM -0500, Seth Vidal wr
On 11/12/2012 06:03 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Tomas Mraz wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 2012-11-12 at 11:37 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Matthew Miller wrote:
>>>
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:29:34AM -0500, Seth Vidal wrote:
> I think ssh has to
On 11/12/2012 08:58 AM, drago01 wrote:
How so? You'd have to just port over the other layers to work with the
new stuff and in F19 focus on the UI.
Now you had to do both at the same time with the same amount of man power.
Changes in the dracut environment broke assumptions in the runtime
envi
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Tomas Mraz wrote:
On Mon, 2012-11-12 at 11:37 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote:
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:29:34AM -0500, Seth Vidal wrote:
I think ssh has to be in the mix. Of ths systems I use/maintain/etc
very few of them are one
On Mon, 2012-11-12 at 11:37 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote:
>
>
> On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Matthew Miller wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:29:34AM -0500, Seth Vidal wrote:
> >> I think ssh has to be in the mix. Of ths systems I use/maintain/etc
> >> very few of them are ones I actually have a relia
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On 11/12/2012 08:45 AM, drago01 wrote:
>>
>> And there was a third option ... port over the old anaconda to the F18
>> changes. (so you'd have less changes).
>
>
> Which would have taken just about as long to get working, and would delay
> th
On 11/12/2012 08:45 AM, drago01 wrote:
And there was a third option ... port over the old anaconda to the F18
changes. (so you'd have less changes).
Which would have taken just about as long to get working, and would
delay the newui move further.
But that's OK, you can keep banging that drum
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On 11/11/2012 10:01 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:
>>
>>
>> Jesse,
>> To be fair - gnome/kde importing something into rawhide/branched
>> that's not finished doesn't shut down everyone else's ability to test
>> the distro
>>
>>
>> I think it is
On 2012-11-11 23:43, Panu Matilainen wrote:
On 11/12/2012 08:56 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On 2012-11-11 22:02, Panu Matilainen wrote:
Based on a quick grep, it doesn't seem to consider obsoletion at
all,
which explains what I see on the DVD and perhaps deserves looking
at.
I think the bas
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:29:34AM -0500, Seth Vidal wrote:
I think ssh has to be in the mix. Of ths systems I use/maintain/etc
very few of them are ones I actually have a reliable console to.
If ssh isn't there, I have to add it just to get the sys
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:29:34AM -0500, Seth Vidal wrote:
> I think ssh has to be in the mix. Of ths systems I use/maintain/etc
> very few of them are ones I actually have a reliable console to.
> If ssh isn't there, I have to add it just to get the system set up.
Yeah: if we get to the point wh
On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
> Yeah, we can't have itext-5 in Fedora. Please see [1] and the
> references therein. We could not update bouncycastle either, lately,
> due to its incompatibility with itext-2. I have some patches that give
> partial success with building itex
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 10:37:54AM -0500, Steve Grubb wrote:
> > > Of course, the real question is why the heck PolicyKit needs a Turing-
> > > complete rule language (which also forced everyone to port their
> > > existing rules) when the previously-used simple INI-style pkla rule
> > > format did
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012, Matthew Miller wrote:
Okay, cool -- there's a lot of enthusiasm for a SIG for the core package
set.
So, first up on the SIG goals: clarifying our target.
It's been suggested before that there's so many possibilities that this is
useless, but the point here is to *pick*
Okay, cool -- there's a lot of enthusiasm for a SIG for the core package
set.
So, first up on the SIG goals: clarifying our target.
It's been suggested before that there's so many possibilities that this is
useless, but the point here is to *pick* a reasonable choice as a group and
to work with t
On 11/11/2012 10:01 PM, Seth Vidal wrote:
Jesse,
To be fair - gnome/kde importing something into rawhide/branched
that's not finished doesn't shut down everyone else's ability to test
the distro
I think it is disingenuous to talk about another distro using anaconda -
b/c the only other o
On Mon, 12 Nov 2012 16:57:06 +0100
Mario Santagiuliana wrote:
> In data lunedì 12 novembre 2012 14:41:43, Nicola Soranzo ha scritto:
> > Ciao Mario,
> > did you follow the steps of
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life
> >
> > in the right order?
> > If
In data lunedì 12 novembre 2012 14:41:43, Nicola Soranzo ha scritto:
> Ciao Mario,
> did you follow the steps of
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life
>
> in the right order?
> If you completed step 5) before step 2) and 3), then you need the help
> of a provenpa
On Saturday, November 10, 2012 09:26:26 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 02:33:53AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > Apparently the new version of polkit brings in javascript. The js
> > > package
> > > is 6.5MB. I think anything that uses polkit will
Jaroslav Reznik píše v Po 12. 11. 2012 v 04:52 -0500:
> - Original Message -
> > Matthew Miller píše v Čt 08. 11. 2012 v 15:15 -0500:
> > > So, here's a proposal for a semi-informal group linking different
> > > stakeholders interested in curating the @core package selection:
> > >
> > >
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 09:17:53AM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> Many of the Koji builders are actually virtualized themselves now, so if the
> build process is planning to spin up a new VM, it needs to either be forced
> to run on a hardware builder (because I really can't believe that the
> inst
On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 11:13:15AM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> BUT for some reason live CD builds have been added as this kind of
> sideways after-thought to Koji. I guess that's because livecd-creator
> had to run as root and had to do all sorts of strange stuff with
> device nodes. None
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On 11/09/2012 05:21 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
I'm making a crude fake EC2 environment on my test machine, and as part of
that, I need a web server listening on 169.254.169.254. I've bound this
address to lo:0. How do I use firewall-cmd to allow http through? It's
blocked by default.
I thought I
Il giorno dom, 11/11/2012 alle 11.04 +0100, Mario Santagiuliana ha
scritto:
> I follow the step to retire akonadi-googledata package.
>
> The upstream project is no longer maintain and in kdepim-runtime there is
> already a new akonadi resource for google services.
>
> On fedora git web interfa
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On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 06:35:50PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 04:02:27PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > So .. they're different things. I'm still unclear what sort of
> > appliances you're trying to build and what for, and that will affect
> > what tool you decide
On 11/12/2012 07:28 AM, Seth Vidal wrote:
On Sat, 10 Nov 2012, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
- depends on Python stack
+1, we really need to get Python out of the minimal installation.
The focus should be on replacing the existing Python-based packages in
the
minimum set
- Original Message -
> Matthew Miller píše v Čt 08. 11. 2012 v 15:15 -0500:
> > So, here's a proposal for a semi-informal group linking different
> > stakeholders interested in curating the @core package selection:
> >
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SIGs/Minimal_Core
> >
> > Please co
> > I wonder whether "Core" is a good word for Fedora Minimal
> > installation SIG. Because currently the minimal installation uses
> > @base yum group. @core group is included always, whether you want
> > it
> > or not. If you really want to have a_core_ system, you must use
> > kickstart like th
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