Re: Setting the default firewall configuration (was Re: Attention, dependency fighters)

2012-11-15 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: And what about the many system administrators using handwritten rules (see Harald Reindl's reply)? There is a --direct option that is supposed to provide a compatibility/escape mechanism with full iptables functionality

Heads up: rpm 4.11 alpha coming soon to rawhide near you

2012-11-15 Thread Panu Matilainen
Now that FESCo accepted http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/RPM4.11 for F19... (in what might well be a record time - less than a minute in the meeting from proposal to acceptance :) Rpm 4.11 alpha (or actually post-alpha snapshot to pull in a few accumulated fixes + enhancements) will

Re: remove polkit from core?

2012-11-15 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 07:34:22PM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 11/14/2012 07:33 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 09:44:55AM -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote: Great - let's take something that

Re: Heads up: rpm 4.11 alpha coming soon to rawhide near you

2012-11-15 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 10:28:49AM +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote: For further details see the draft release notes at http://rpm.org/wiki/Releases/4.11.0 Should we start changing %doc README COPYING to %doc README %license COPYING ? Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat

Re: Heads up: rpm 4.11 alpha coming soon to rawhide near you

2012-11-15 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 11/15/2012 11:59 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 10:28:49AM +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote: For further details see the draft release notes at http://rpm.org/wiki/Releases/4.11.0 Should we start changing %doc README COPYING to %doc README %license COPYING ?

Re: Heads up: rpm 4.11 alpha coming soon to rawhide near you

2012-11-15 Thread Mathieu Bridon
On Thursday, November 15, 2012 06:20 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote: On 11/15/2012 11:59 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 10:28:49AM +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote: For further details see the draft release notes at http://rpm.org/wiki/Releases/4.11.0 Should we start changing

Re: Heads up: rpm 4.11 alpha coming soon to rawhide near you

2012-11-15 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 11/15/2012 12:21 PM, Mathieu Bridon wrote: On Thursday, November 15, 2012 06:20 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote: On 11/15/2012 11:59 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 10:28:49AM +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote: For further details see the draft release notes at

Re: The GNOME 3.6.2 Megaupdate

2012-11-15 Thread Kalev Lember
On 11/13/2012 01:07 PM, Kalev Lember wrote: It's time for the last big GNOME update for F18 to bring bug fixes and translation updates to users! The update is now in Bodhi, thanks to everyone who pitched in with builds. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2012-18258 It missed the

Re: The GNOME 3.6.2 Megaupdate

2012-11-15 Thread Kalev Lember
On 11/15/2012 11:43 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: This is the ticket I've filed to ask QA to consider including this in the Beta release: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=876922 (Sorry, messed up the bugzilla link in the original message.) -- Kalev -- devel mailing list

[perl-Inline-Files] Modernize the spec a bit

2012-11-15 Thread Petr Šabata
commit 7e3320b2fc52fcd430356adda5f50f319d3ea188 Author: Petr Šabata con...@redhat.com Date: Thu Nov 15 11:54:58 2012 +0100 Modernize the spec a bit perl-Inline-Files.spec | 19 --- 1 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-Inline-Files.spec

Re: LuaJIT - an alternative for current Python C bindings

2012-11-15 Thread Florian Weimer
On 11/15/2012 01:49 AM, Alek Paunov wrote: So, to me it seems natural joining all above together to start thinking for replacing the classic python C bindings with thin textual or bytecode(*) LuaJIT/FFI shims in benefit of things with great set of dependencies like Anaconda (thanks to lupa, Lua

Re: Heads up: rpm 4.11 alpha coming soon to rawhide near you

2012-11-15 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 11/15/2012 12:20 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote: On 11/15/2012 11:59 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 10:28:49AM +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote: For further details see the draft release notes at http://rpm.org/wiki/Releases/4.11.0 Should we start changing %doc README

Re: Setting the default firewall configuration (was Re: Attention, dependency fighters)

2012-11-15 Thread Michael Scherer
Le jeudi 15 novembre 2012 à 03:23 +0100, Kevin Kofler a écrit : iptables rules are a long-established cross- distribution interface Not really. For example, ubuntu use ufw, mandriva used shorewall. Debian offered several frontend, but IIRC, didn't use one by default. And I have worked as

[perl-DateTime-TimeZone] Add BR, filter duplicated requires.

2012-11-15 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
commit 473337bb37698841ad212e69bb895004a7be69bd Author: Marcela Mašláňová mmasl...@redhat.com Date: Thu Nov 15 13:36:09 2012 +0100 Add BR, filter duplicated requires. perl-DateTime-TimeZone.spec | 11 +-- 1 files changed, 9 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) --- diff --git

Re: [@core] working definition for the minimal package set

2012-11-15 Thread John . Florian
From: Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de I think a good way to approach this is by looking for the interesting usecases for a minimal installation: A) Containers B) VMs C) Bare-Metal Servers D) Paranoid people (not relevant) E) Embedded (out of focus for Fedora) I don't believe

Re: LuaJIT - an alternative for current Python C bindings

2012-11-15 Thread drago01
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Florian Weimer fwei...@redhat.com wrote: On 11/15/2012 01:49 AM, Alek Paunov wrote: So, to me it seems natural joining all above together to start thinking for replacing the classic python C bindings with thin textual or bytecode(*) LuaJIT/FFI shims in

Re: LuaJIT - an alternative for current Python C bindings

2012-11-15 Thread drago01
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:18 PM, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Florian Weimer fwei...@redhat.com wrote: On 11/15/2012 01:49 AM, Alek Paunov wrote: So, to me it seems natural joining all above together to start thinking for replacing the classic python C

Re: [@core] working definition for the minimal package set

2012-11-15 Thread John . Florian
From: Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com On 14 November 2012 17:19, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote: Oh, I wasn't aware that this is solely about anaconda-based installs, sorry. Well actually I think the correct question here is.. is this about anaconda based

Re: bodhi 0.9.3 deployed to production

2012-11-15 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: There seems to be a mania for CURRENTRELEASE lately. I don't know where it's coming from. Well, it used to be what we used in the beginnings of Fedora. It got changed to ERRATA because that makes a lot more sense. The policy clearly states ERRATA:

[389-devel] Revised: please review ticket 394 - error deleting a specific userpassword

2012-11-15 Thread Mark Reynolds
I thought unhashed userpassword was removed from the entry, but it still might be there, so I added back the code to remove it. Original Message Subject: [389-devel] please review ticket 394 - error deleting a specific userpassword Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 15:52:47 -0500

[Bug 877015] perl-CGI: Newline injection due to improper CRLF escaping in Set-Cookie and P3P headers

2012-11-15 Thread bugzilla
Product: Security Response https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=877015 Jan Lieskovsky jlies...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC|

[Bug 877015] perl-CGI: Newline injection due to improper CRLF escaping in Set-Cookie and P3P headers

2012-11-15 Thread bugzilla
Product: Security Response https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=877015 --- Comment #1 from Jan Lieskovsky jlies...@redhat.com --- This issue affects the versions of the perl-CGI package, as shipped with Fedora release of 16 and 17. Please schedule an update. -- You are receiving this

Re: raising warning flag on firewalld-default feature

2012-11-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 01:53:32AM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: In fact, all system bus services should be configured to defer activation to systemd, so that all services regardless how they are triggered are executed in the same clean execution environment, and can be manipulated with the

[Bug 877015] perl-CGI: Newline injection due to improper CRLF escaping in Set-Cookie and P3P headers

2012-11-15 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 877015] perl-CGI: Newline injection due to improper CRLF escaping in Set-Cookie and P3P headers

2012-11-15 Thread bugzilla
Product: Security Response https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=877015 --- Comment #3 from Jan Lieskovsky jlies...@redhat.com --- This issue affects the versions of the perl package, as shipped with Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5 and 6. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the

[perl-IO-Socket-SSL] Added some missing build dependencies

2012-11-15 Thread Petr Šabata
commit afe37c043b4f2380e4d5679890cfa20e69b65907 Author: Petr Šabata con...@redhat.com Date: Thu Nov 15 16:10:08 2012 +0100 Added some missing build dependencies perl-IO-Socket-SSL.spec |9 - 1 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git

Re: remove polkit from core?

2012-11-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 08:34:00PM -0500, Simo Sorce wrote: Also, creating individual groups for all the various privileged operations we have simply doesn't scale. This is a better argument. So, PK's usecase is a valid and an important one. You cannot replace that by Unix groups. Which

fedora elections questions [Re: remove polkit from core?]

2012-11-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 09:43:41AM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Anyway, I'd like to hear what FESCo members have to say about this, because it would strongly influence who I would vote for. Yeah, I too came up with a couple of questions I'd like to add to

Re: [@core] working definition for the minimal package set

2012-11-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:03:36PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: Is there any reason those two can't be split up? Maybe @really-hard-core for the first, and @core for the second. ;-) That's basically what Kevin proposed several mails back, and I agree it seems like we have two broadly

Re: [@core] working definition for the minimal package set

2012-11-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 01:19:59AM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: For containers a yum group for usage with --installroot= is the only thing that matters. For this, is a group even necessary or useful? -- Matthew Miller ☁☁☁ Fedora Cloud Architect ☁☁☁ mat...@fedoraproject.org -- devel

Re: [@core] working definition for the minimal package set

2012-11-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 01:13:09AM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: Well, it would be weird that the minimal installation is actually not minimal at all, but the container installation is. That would be weird. But fortunately, it's @core, not @minimal. So we could easily have @minimal, @core,

Re: [@core] working definition for the minimal package set

2012-11-15 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 11/12/2012 11:28 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: I see three basic options for the target: A) kernel + init system and we're done B) boot to yum (with network): a text-mode bootstrap environment on which other things can be added by hand (or by kickstart) C) a traditional Unix command

Re: raising warning flag on firewalld-default feature

2012-11-15 Thread Matej Cepl
On 2012-11-15, 15:06 GMT, Matthew Miller wrote: I was looking for resources on systemd and dbus activation. I realized that the documentation here is very scarce -- there's this tutorial on just dbus activation http://raphael.slinckx.net/blog/documents/dbus-tutorial and our wiki page

[perl-IO-stringy] BuildRequire perl(lib)

2012-11-15 Thread Petr Šabata
commit cfb2b6537a3fa9c24b395230b4d6e73888492aaa Author: Petr Šabata con...@redhat.com Date: Thu Nov 15 17:05:00 2012 +0100 BuildRequire perl(lib) perl-IO-stringy.spec |6 +- 1 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl-IO-stringy.spec

Re: fedora elections questions [Re: remove polkit from core?]

2012-11-15 Thread inode0
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 09:43:41AM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: Anyway, I'd like to hear what FESCo members have to say about this, because it would strongly influence who I would vote for. Yeah, I too came up

Re: raising warning flag on firewalld-default feature

2012-11-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 04:15:25PM +0100, Matej Cepl wrote: I was looking for resources on systemd and dbus activation. I realized that the documentation here is very scarce -- there's this tutorial on just dbus activation http://raphael.slinckx.net/blog/documents/dbus-tutorial and our

Re: [@core] working definition for the minimal package set

2012-11-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 10:59:26AM -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote: I don't know if that is what you're after, because busybox duplicates the functionality of individual packages (and may have some limitations in how well it duplicates, I'm sure). All the same, I would definitely consider

Re: Setting the default firewall configuration (was Re: Attention, dependency fighters)

2012-11-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.11.2012 13:33, schrieb Michael Scherer: Le jeudi 15 novembre 2012 à 03:23 +0100, Kevin Kofler a écrit : iptables rules are a long-established cross- distribution interface Not really. For example, ubuntu use ufw, mandriva used shorewall. Debian offered several frontend, but IIRC,

Re: [@core] working definition for the minimal package set

2012-11-15 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 11/15/2012 11:18 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 10:59:26AM -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote: I don't know if that is what you're after, because busybox duplicates the functionality of individual packages (and may have some limitations in how well it duplicates, I'm sure).

PKLA -- JavaScript

2012-11-15 Thread Ian Pilcher
On 11/14/2012 01:07 AM, tim.laurid...@gmail.com wrote: http://davidz25.blogspot.dk/2012/06/authorization-rules-in-polkit.html http://www.freedesktop.org/software/polkit/docs/master/polkit.8.html I've just reviewed those pages, and it's certainly not obvious to me how I would go about porting a

Re: [@core] working definition for the minimal package set

2012-11-15 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Przemek Klosowski przemek.klosow...@nist.gov said: Since busybox package already exists, I think it makes sense to use it--not because we're doing some tiny-linux, but because why not, it's just 651 kB. Most packages we discussed here (openssh-clients, sendmail) are

Re: [@core] working definition for the minimal package set

2012-11-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:31:52AM -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote: Well, this is part of what I mean by Fedora is not a tiny-linux distribution. It might be interesting to have a busybox-based spin, but I think that's a different thing. Since busybox package already exists, I think it makes

Re: PKLA -- JavaScript

2012-11-15 Thread tim.laurid...@gmail.com
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com wrote: I've just reviewed those pages, and it's certainly not obvious to me how I would go about porting a PKLA file. [libvirt Management Access] Identity=unix-group:wheel Action=org.libvirt.unix.manage ResultAny=no

Re: The GNOME 3.6.2 Megaupdate

2012-11-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 11:43 +0100, Kalev Lember wrote: On 11/13/2012 01:07 PM, Kalev Lember wrote: It's time for the last big GNOME update for F18 to bring bug fixes and translation updates to users! The update is now in Bodhi, thanks to everyone who pitched in with builds.

Re: Setting the default firewall configuration (was Re: Attention, dependency fighters)

2012-11-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 14:48 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 15.11.2012 13:33, schrieb Michael Scherer: Le jeudi 15 novembre 2012 à 03:23 +0100, Kevin Kofler a écrit : iptables rules are a long-established cross- distribution interface Not really. For example, ubuntu use ufw, mandriva

Re: PKLA -- JavaScript

2012-11-15 Thread drago01
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Ian Pilcher arequip...@gmail.com wrote: [...] but this seems like a terrible burden to put on system administrators, particularly those who are (sometimes proudly) averse to anything that smacks of programming. Thus are by definition not system administrators.

Re: PKLA -- JavaScript

2012-11-15 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, tim.laurid...@gmail.com tim.laurid...@gmail.com said: the .rules file should look like this: and go into * /usr/share/polkit-1/rules.d/ * System-local config belongs in /etc, not /usr. Is there a corresponding /etc path for rules? -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems

Re: bodhi 0.9.3 deployed to production

2012-11-15 Thread Luke Macken
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 05:52:23AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Luke Macken wrote: A new bugfix release of Bodhi has just been deployed to production. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates Bugs and enhancement requests can be filed here: http://bodhi.fedorahosted.org

Re: PKLA -- JavaScript

2012-11-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 06:06:44PM +0100, drago01 wrote: Thus are by definition not system administrators. There are not supposed to be software developers but being able to deal with simple code (shell scripts?!) is part of a sysadmins jobs. So the solution would be fire him and hire a new

Re: PKLA -- JavaScript

2012-11-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:09:07AM -0600, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, tim.laurid...@gmail.com tim.laurid...@gmail.com said: the .rules file should look like this: and go into * /usr/share/polkit-1/rules.d/ * System-local config belongs in /etc, not /usr. Is there a corresponding

Re: PKLA -- JavaScript

2012-11-15 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:09:53 -0500 Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 06:06:44PM +0100, drago01 wrote: Thus are by definition not system administrators. There are not supposed to be software developers but being able to deal with simple code (shell

Re: Setting the default firewall configuration (was Re: Attention, dependency fighters)

2012-11-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.11.2012 18:06, schrieb Adam Williamson: On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 14:48 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 15.11.2012 13:33, schrieb Michael Scherer: Not really. For example, ubuntu use ufw, mandriva used shorewall. Debian offered several frontend, but IIRC, didn't use one by default and

Re: The GNOME 3.6.2 Megaupdate

2012-11-15 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 15.11.2012 18:04, Adam Williamson napsal(a): On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 11:43 +0100, Kalev Lember wrote: On 11/13/2012 01:07 PM, Kalev Lember wrote: It's time for the last big GNOME update for F18 to bring bug fixes and translation updates to users! The update is now in Bodhi, thanks to

Re: The GNOME 3.6.2 Megaupdate

2012-11-15 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 15.11.2012 18:45, Vít Ondruch napsal(a): Dne 15.11.2012 18:04, Adam Williamson napsal(a): On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 11:43 +0100, Kalev Lember wrote: On 11/13/2012 01:07 PM, Kalev Lember wrote: It's time for the last big GNOME update for F18 to bring bug fixes and translation updates to users!

Re: The GNOME 3.6.2 Megaupdate

2012-11-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:49:50 +0100 Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com wrote: Dne 15.11.2012 18:45, Vít Ondruch napsal(a): ...snip... I wish it would be installable as a single update. If bodhi could compose the yum install command for copy paste at least, it might be helpful as well.

Re: PKLA -- JavaScript

2012-11-15 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:09:07AM -0600, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, tim.laurid...@gmail.com tim.laurid...@gmail.com said: the .rules file should look like this: and go into *

Re: Setting the default firewall configuration (was Re: Attention, dependency fighters)

2012-11-15 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 15.11.2012 18:06, schrieb Adam Williamson: Right. I hate to say it, but Harald is correct here: AFAIK, all those and other firewall configuration mechanisms were ultimately just UI/abstraction layers wrapped around

Re: The GNOME 3.6.2 Megaupdate

2012-11-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 10:57 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 18:49:50 +0100 Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com wrote: Dne 15.11.2012 18:45, Vít Ondruch napsal(a): ...snip... I wish it would be installable as a single update. If bodhi could compose the yum install command

[389-devel] please review ticket 507 - use mutex for FrontendConfig lock instead of rwlock

2012-11-15 Thread Mark Reynolds
https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/507 https://fedorahosted.org/389/attachment/ticket/507/0001-Ticket-507-use-mutex-for-FrontendConfig-lock-instead.patch -- Mark Reynolds Red Hat, Inc mreyno...@redhat.com -- 389-devel mailing list 389-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Setting the default firewall configuration (was Re: Attention, dependency fighters)

2012-11-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 19:02 +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 15.11.2012 18:06, schrieb Adam Williamson: Right. I hate to say it, but Harald is correct here: AFAIK, all those and other firewall configuration

Re: Setting the default firewall configuration (was Re: Attention, dependency fighters)

2012-11-15 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote: On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 19:02 +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 15.11.2012 18:06, schrieb Adam Williamson: Right. I hate to say it, but

Re: Setting the default firewall configuration (was Re: Attention, dependency fighters)

2012-11-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 10:10:43AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: Sure, but the background here was the 'replace vs. augment' question - is firewalld actually planned to replace iptables in the long run, or are we committed to maintaining iptables as an alternative mechanism? It sounds like

Re: Setting the default firewall configuration (was Re: Attention, dependency fighters)

2012-11-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.11.2012 19:02, schrieb Miloslav Trmač: On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 6:16 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 15.11.2012 18:06, schrieb Adam Williamson: Right. I hate to say it, but Harald is correct here: AFAIK, all those and other firewall configuration mechanisms were

Re: raising warning flag on firewalld-default feature

2012-11-15 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 15.11.12 10:06, Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) wrote: On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 01:53:32AM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: In fact, all system bus services should be configured to defer activation to systemd, so that all services regardless how they are triggered are

Re: Setting the default firewall configuration (was Re: Attention, dependency fighters)

2012-11-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.11.2012 19:16, schrieb Miloslav Trmač: (as far as I understand the situation:) iptables as a kernel interface and a low-level command will exist, but applications will expect the existence of the firewalld D-Bus service (as opposed to the system-config-firewall D-Bus service, at

Re: Setting the default firewall configuration (was Re: Attention, dependency fighters)

2012-11-15 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 15.11.2012 19:02, schrieb Miloslav Trmač: It would be very helpful for judging the maturity/suitability of firewalld if you could try converting your iptables script to firewall-cmd --direct (which, at least I

Re: Setting the default firewall configuration (was Re: Attention, dependency fighters)

2012-11-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.11.2012 19:27, schrieb Miloslav Trmač: On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 15.11.2012 19:02, schrieb Miloslav Trmač: It would be very helpful for judging the maturity/suitability of firewalld if you could try converting your iptables script

Re: Setting the default firewall configuration (was Re: Attention, dependency fighters)

2012-11-15 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:30:27 +0100 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 15.11.2012 19:27, schrieb Miloslav Trmač: On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: Am 15.11.2012 19:02, schrieb Miloslav Trmač: It would be very helpful for judging the

Re: The GNOME 3.6.2 Megaupdate

2012-11-15 Thread Kevin Kofler
Vít Ondruch wrote: I wish it would be installable as a single update. If bodhi could compose the yum install command for copy paste at least, it might be helpful as well. Assuming you already have GNOME installed, these commands: yum install yum-security yum --enablerepo=updates-testing

Re: LuaJIT - an alternative for current Python C bindings

2012-11-15 Thread Alek Paunov
Hi Florian, On 15.11.2012 13:18, Florian Weimer wrote: On 11/15/2012 01:49 AM, Alek Paunov wrote: So, to me it seems natural joining all above together to start thinking for replacing the classic python C bindings with thin textual or bytecode(*) LuaJIT/FFI shims in benefit of things with

Re: Setting the default firewall configuration (was Re: Attention, dependency fighters)

2012-11-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.11.2012 19:37, schrieb Kevin Fenzi: Have you actually _tried_? It's supposed to be as easy as s/iptables/firewall-cmd --direct --passthrough ipv4/ I don't know for a fact whether it is good enough. You seem to have a script that could tell us. i posted a script realier this day as

Re: Setting the default firewall configuration (was Re: Attention, dependency fighters)

2012-11-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-11-15 at 19:46 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 15.11.2012 19:37, schrieb Kevin Fenzi: Have you actually _tried_? It's supposed to be as easy as s/iptables/firewall-cmd --direct --passthrough ipv4/ I don't know for a fact whether it is good enough. You seem to have a

[perl-Wx/f16] 0.9914 + more complete list of Provides

2012-11-15 Thread Tom Callaway
commit 37361aeae7d7d4eca39de9ec35ed6394ad00357b Author: Tom Callaway s...@fedoraproject.org Date: Thu Nov 15 14:04:14 2012 -0500 0.9914 + more complete list of Provides perl-Wx.spec | 374 +- sources |2 +- 2 files changed,

[perl-Wx/f17] 0.9914 + more complete list of Provides

2012-11-15 Thread Tom Callaway
commit 9df52c8f768409c128c62c6eb15b425ca8dd3f86 Author: Tom Callaway s...@fedoraproject.org Date: Thu Nov 15 14:06:15 2012 -0500 0.9914 + more complete list of Provides perl-Wx.spec | 363 +- sources |2 +- 2 files changed,

[perl-Wx/f18] 0.9914 + more complete list of Provides

2012-11-15 Thread Tom Callaway
commit b84078132c3f0c213da6687ea716c8ac2f6aafa5 Author: Tom Callaway s...@fedoraproject.org Date: Thu Nov 15 14:06:49 2012 -0500 0.9914 + more complete list of Provides perl-Wx.spec | 329 +- 1 files changed, 326 insertions(+), 3

[perl-Wx] 0.9914 + more complete list of Provides

2012-11-15 Thread Tom Callaway
commit f78b62cbacba8fb8868d5788a5fe4640998aa08a Author: Tom Callaway s...@fedoraproject.org Date: Thu Nov 15 14:07:24 2012 -0500 0.9914 + more complete list of Provides perl-Wx.spec | 329 +- 1 files changed, 326 insertions(+), 3

Re: The GNOME 3.6.2 Megaupdate

2012-11-15 Thread John Reiser
bodhi -D FEDORA-2012-18258 will download all packages in that update for you. Usability is so poor that you might give up [all on up-to-date Fedora 18 Beta-TC8+]: # type bodhi bash: type: bodhi: not found No hints? # yum install bodhi Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit

Re: raising warning flag on firewalld-default feature

2012-11-15 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 11/12/2012 02:15 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: On Mon, Nov 12, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Right. We need to stop writing core system components in scripting languages! Well, there _are_ significant advantages to using a higer-level language than C.[1] Using

[Bug 876221] perl-Wx does not provide perl(Wx::Dialog) and others.

2012-11-15 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=876221 --- Comment #1 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org --- perl-Wx-0.9914-2.fc17 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 17. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-Wx-0.9914-2.fc17 -- You are receiving this

[Bug 876221] perl-Wx does not provide perl(Wx::Dialog) and others.

2012-11-15 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=876221 --- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org --- perl-Wx-0.9914-2.fc16 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 16. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-Wx-0.9914-2.fc16 -- You are receiving this

[Bug 876221] perl-Wx does not provide perl(Wx::Dialog) and others.

2012-11-15 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=876221 --- Comment #3 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org --- perl-Wx-0.9914-2.fc18 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 18. https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-Wx-0.9914-2.fc18 -- You are receiving this

Re: The GNOME 3.6.2 Megaupdate

2012-11-15 Thread Adam Jackson
On 11/15/12 2:11 PM, John Reiser wrote: # yum install bodhi Loaded plugins: langpacks, presto, refresh-packagekit fedora/18/x86_64/metalink | 12 kB 00:00:00 updates/18/x86_64/metalink | 18 kB 00:00:00 No package

Re: Setting the default firewall configuration (was Re: Attention, dependency fighters)

2012-11-15 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 15.11.2012 19:58, schrieb Adam Williamson: I don't think anyone asked you to do any of those things. Fedora obviously does not have the power to replace iptables with firewalld on your router, so the question is not 'can you replace iptables with firewalld on everything in your network

Re: raising warning flag on firewalld-default feature

2012-11-15 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:48 AM, Jan Zelený jzel...@redhat.com wrote: On 12. 11. 2012 at 17:59:00, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Richard Vickery richard.vicker...@gmail.com said: Change still frightens people to varying degree s., and many busy end-users may not have time to

Re: [@core] working definition for the minimal package set

2012-11-15 Thread Bill Nottingham
Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) said: On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 10:03:36PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: Is there any reason those two can't be split up? Maybe @really-hard-core for the first, and @core for the second. ;-) That's basically what Kevin proposed several mails back,

Re: [@core] working definition for the minimal package set

2012-11-15 Thread Bill Nottingham
Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) said: Well, it would be weird that the minimal installation is actually not minimal at all, but the container installation is. That would be weird. But fortunately, it's @core, not @minimal. So we could easily have @minimal, @core, and @standard,

Re: [@core] working definition for the minimal package set

2012-11-15 Thread drago01
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 10:12 PM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote: Matthew Miller (mat...@fedoraproject.org) said: Well, it would be weird that the minimal installation is actually not minimal at all, but the container installation is. That would be weird. But fortunately, it's

Re: Problem with jack update

2012-11-15 Thread Ian Malone
On 15 November 2012 04:40, Orcan Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, A few months ago earlier in the F-17 release cycle, we had a problem with jackd turning verbose, flooding the stdout, even when its verbosity was turned off. This was a bug [1] in the compiler, specifically in the

Re: The GNOME 3.6.2 Megaupdate

2012-11-15 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/15/2012 11:11 AM, John Reiser wrote: bodhi -D FEDORA-2012-18258 will download all packages in that update for you. Usability is so poor that you might give up [all on up-to-date Fedora 18 Beta-TC8+]: yum search bodhi? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[Bug 876951] New: perl-CGI-3.63 is available

2012-11-15 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=876951 Bug ID: 876951 Summary: perl-CGI-3.63 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-CGI Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged Severity:

[Bug 876952] New: perl-Net-GitHub-0.48 is available

2012-11-15 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=876952 Bug ID: 876952 Summary: perl-Net-GitHub-0.48 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-Net-GitHub Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged

[perl-IO-Tty] Fix the dependencies, license, and re-enable the tests

2012-11-15 Thread Petr Šabata
commit 10244d5461435a0c7e18561af1f3fe39792b8f24 Author: Petr Šabata con...@redhat.com Date: Thu Nov 15 12:47:46 2012 +0100 Fix the dependencies, license, and re-enable the tests perl-IO-Tty.spec | 44 +++- 1 files changed, 19 insertions(+), 25

[Bug 876165] mojomojo-1.07 is available

2012-11-15 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=876165 Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|NEW |CLOSED

[Bug 876951] perl-CGI-3.63 is available

2012-11-15 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=876951 Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added CC|mmasl...@redhat.com

[perl-IO-Tty/f18] Fix the dependencies, license, and re-enable the tests

2012-11-15 Thread Petr Šabata
Summary of changes: 10244d5... Fix the dependencies, license, and re-enable the tests (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list

[perl-IO-Tty/f17] (3 commits) ...Fix the dependencies, license, and re-enable the tests

2012-11-15 Thread Petr Šabata
Summary of changes: 5fe5d55... Perl 5.16 rebuild (*) d45c90e... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Mass (*) 10244d5... Fix the dependencies, license, and re-enable the tests (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras

[Bug 876951] perl-CGI-3.63 is available

2012-11-15 Thread bugzilla
Product: Fedora https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=876951 --- Comment #1 from Petr Pisar ppi...@redhat.com --- Bug-fixing release. -- You are receiving this mail because: You are on the CC list for the bug. -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl

File CGI.pm-3.63.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2012-11-15 Thread Petr Pisar
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-CGI: 78eb3acb736205ca12ec2c79bc737e6c CGI.pm-3.63.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-CGI] 3.63 bump

2012-11-15 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 586f47573df5ddfd1b38c25f90920e3efd242500 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Thu Nov 15 13:08:56 2012 +0100 3.63 bump .gitignore|1 + perl-CGI.spec |5 - sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/.gitignore

[perl-IO-Tty/f16] (4 commits) ...Fix the dependencies, license, and re-enable the tests

2012-11-15 Thread Petr Šabata
Summary of changes: e326e55... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_Mass (*) 5fe5d55... Perl 5.16 rebuild (*) d45c90e... - Rebuilt for https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_18_Mass (*) 10244d5... Fix the dependencies, license, and re-enable the tests (*) (*) This commit

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