Hi everyone,
I would like to share the minutes from yesterday's Fedora ARM meeting.
In particular, those on devel@ might be interested in our desire to
discuss PA at FUDCon. At FUDCon, we will have a 24 node Calxeda
EnergyCore (highbank) server that will demonstrate various capabilities
of the
On 12/21/2012 12:27 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 10:30:37PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
Thanks, but I think the bit I'm mising is why can't systemd use
libexec? (Apart from their declaration that libexec is wrong or not
the de-facto standard they themselves made up,
On 12/21/2012 09:24 AM, Florian Weimer wrote:
On 12/21/2012 12:27 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 10:30:37PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
Thanks, but I think the bit I'm mising is why can't systemd use
libexec? (Apart from their declaration that libexec is wrong or not
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 07:45:45AM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:24:09PM -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
2) the systemd exceptions allows placing files in %{_prefix}/lib rather
than %{_libdir} (the exceptions allow both putting the helper apps in there
which would
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:39:53PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
I do apologize for somewhat derailing things towards the libexecdir
discussion, though, as I missed the point about the real question here
being between /lib/foo and $libdir/foo . The libexecdir thing is kind of
a tangent and
On 12/07/2012 07:59 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
Are there other obsoleted packages in the F18 repo?
Here's what I see on F18, it's quite a pile:
4ti2-1.3.2-12.fc18.x86_64
anyremote2html-1.4-4.fc18.noarch
chktex-1.6.4-11.fc18.x86_64
classads-1.0.8-5.fc18.i686
classads-1.0.8-5.fc18.x86_64
On Fri, 21 Dec 2012 10:55:15 +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote:
On 12/07/2012 07:59 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:
Are there other obsoleted packages in the F18 repo?
Here's what I see on F18, it's quite a pile:
qxmpp-dev-0.6.3.1-1.fc18.i686
qxmpp-dev-0.6.3.1-1.fc18.x86_64
On 12/21/2012 09:42 AM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 07:45:45AM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 11:24:09PM -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
However, you also miss my point. Adam's message was saying that the
guidelines forced people to use libexecdir and
On Fri, 21.12.12 05:06, Matthew Garrett (mj...@srcf.ucam.org) wrote:
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 08:57:58PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
IMHO, libexecdir is not part of this at all... we already have:
If upstream's build scripts support the use of %{_libexecdir} then
that is the most
On Thu, 20.12.12 18:48, Toshio Kuratomi (a.bad...@gmail.com) wrote:
Ahem. Isn't your own first sentence suggesting that *your* way is the
one and only right way? I don't see how you can attack Lennart for
having a firm belief about what's the 'right way' when you also seem to
have a firm
On Fri, 21.12.12 05:38, Ralf Corsepius (rc040...@freenet.de) wrote:
On 12/21/2012 12:27 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 10:30:37PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
Thanks, but I think the bit I'm mising is why can't systemd use
libexec? (Apart from their declaration that
Compose started at Fri Dec 21 09:16:15 UTC 2012
Updated Packages:
fedmsg-0.6.3-1.fc18
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* Wed Dec 05 2012 Ralph Bean rb...@redhat.com - 0.6.3-1
- Use python-logutils for dictConfig on py2.6.
- Attempt to fixup rhel conditionals.
- Added test dependency on python-six and
On Fri, 21.12.12 07:01, Ralf Corsepius (rc040...@freenet.de) wrote:
On 12/21/2012 06:16 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2012-12-21 at 06:09 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 12/21/2012 05:54 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 05:38:17AM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
I
Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.de writes:
IMHO, libexecdir is not part of this at all... we already have:
If upstream's build scripts support the use of %{_libexecdir} then
that is the most appropriate place to configure it (eg. passing
--libexecdir=%{libexecdir}/%{name} to
On Thu, 20.12.12 23:24, Toshio Kuratomi (a.bad...@gmail.com) wrote:
2) we have to pressure upstream projects to needlessly complicate their
code and buildsystem with stuff like $libexecdir variables in their
autofoo, which resolve to /usr/libexec on Fedora/RHEL but just /usr/lib
or
Interesting previous discussions about /usr/libexec:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/05/thrd2.html#00401
http://www.redhat.com/archives/rhl-devel-list/2005-May/thread.html#00240
FreeBSD has /usr/libexec[1], and it's part of historical Unix,
although I cannot find when it was first
On 12/21/2012 02:24 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Fri, 21.12.12 05:38, Ralf Corsepius (rc040...@freenet.de) wrote:
On 12/21/2012 12:27 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 10:30:37PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
Thanks, but I think the bit I'm mising is why can't
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:55 AM, Panu Matilainen
pmati...@laiskiainen.org wrote:
Here's what I see on F18, it's quite a pile:
[snip]
latexmk-4.35-1.fc18.noarch
This one should not be obsoleted. See
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=868996. I'd appreciate
Jindrich doing something
commit 58f08743ace3aa9b23fa0be7e3050f66911645a0
Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org
Date: Fri Dec 21 15:19:56 2012 +
Update to 1.37
- New upstream release 1.37:
- Remove text/x-perl, where we also have an application/x-perl
(CPAN RT#82100)
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 08:19:58AM -0700, Jerry James wrote:
pmati...@laiskiainen.org wrote:
Here's what I see on F18, it's quite a pile:
[snip]
latexmk-4.35-1.fc18.noarch
This one should not be obsoleted. See
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=868996. I'd appreciate
Jindrich
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On 12/20/2012 11:54 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 05:38:17AM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
I disagree. systemd simply hasn't taken libexecdir into account in
its design and now is trying to propagate their oversight/mistake as
standard instead of making their works
2012/12/19 Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com
[...]
Oh dear, sorry, I just rebooted and lost that data (I tend to keep this
kind of file in /tmp). I could re-generate it if you're really
interested.
[...]
I think this would be a nice to have on the wiki page to document the
outcome of the
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 8:28 AM, Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 08:19:58AM -0700, Jerry James wrote:
pmati...@laiskiainen.org wrote:
Here's what I see on F18, it's quite a pile:
[snip]
latexmk-4.35-1.fc18.noarch
This one should not be obsoleted. See
On Thu, 20.12.12 19:05, Nicolas Mailhot (nicolas.mail...@laposte.net) wrote:
The conversion (as systemd-localed calls it) works really poorly also
for the Czech keymaps/layouts. 'cz' X11 layout is converted to
'cz-lat2' which works like 'us' until you hit the Pause Break key.
This is
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 08:55:22AM -0700, Jerry James wrote:
Here's what I see on F18, it's quite a pile:
latexmk-4.35-1.fc18.noarch
This one should not be obsoleted. See
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=868996. I'd appreciate
Jindrich doing something about that before
The lightweight tag 'perl-MailTools-2.12-1.fc19' was created pointing to:
e9ef814... Update to 2.12
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On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Matthew Miller
mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 08:55:22AM -0700, Jerry James wrote:
Sorry, it must be too early in the morning for my brain to work
properly. What would I be asking FESCO to do?
Decide between the two redundant and
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On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 04:22:47PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:49:19AM -0500, Don Dutile wrote:
On 12/20/2012 11:54 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
libexec doesn't exist in any published version of the FHS, and even the
draft of 3.0 makes it clear that it's optional.
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com wrote:
Well, IMHO reading the bug it just sounds like to me a mistake was made
and the obsoletes/conflicts was not removed as intended:
+* Sun Nov 4 2012 Jindrich Novy jn...@redhat.com 2012-5-20121024
+- don't conflict with latexmk
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 12:42:14AM -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
However, you also miss my point. Adam's message was saying that the
guidelines forced people to use libexecdir and then went on to point out the
drawbacks of forcing specifically libexecdir on upstreams that didn't have
that
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 03:11:32AM -0500, Jon Masters wrote:
I would like to share the minutes from yesterday's Fedora ARM meeting.
In particular, those on devel@ might be interested in our desire to
discuss PA at FUDCon. At FUDCon, we will have a 24 node Calxeda
EnergyCore (highbank) server
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 04:37:59PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 04:22:47PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:49:19AM -0500, Don Dutile wrote:
fyi: libexec has been critical to virtualization for quite some time...
I think Don is referring
On 12/21/2012 08:53 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
Are you looking at F19 or F20 for PA?
This will be a very engaging topic at FUDCon next month. Current
logistics make the following likely:
F19: Transition to enterprise ARM hardware in PHX
F20: Push armv7hl to PA
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On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 04:55:09PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 04:37:59PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 04:22:47PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:49:19AM -0500, Don Dutile wrote:
fyi: libexec has been critical
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 05:09:00PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 04:55:09PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
Is the path user visible in any way?
If used, /usr/libexec/qemu-bridge-helper is encoded directly in the
libvirt XML. So is libvirt_lxc. (So is
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 09:06:07AM -0800, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
On 12/21/2012 08:53 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
Are you looking at F19 or F20 for PA?
This will be a very engaging topic at FUDCon next month. Current
logistics make the following likely:
F19: Transition to enterprise ARM
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 05:13:17PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 05:09:00PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 04:55:09PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
Is the path user visible in any way?
If used, /usr/libexec/qemu-bridge-helper is encoded
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:55:15AM +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote:
Here's what I see on F18, it's quite a pile:
I made a Rel-Eng ticket: https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5427
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On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 09:16:00PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
I've never seen any distro take any notice of this standard whatsoever.
Well, if you don't count Red Hat Linux, Fedora, and Red Hat Enterprise
Linux
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On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 04:55:09PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 04:37:59PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 04:22:47PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:49:19AM -0500, Don Dutile wrote:
fyi: libexec has been critical
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 04:59:59PM +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
The libvirt_lxc binary does appear in the XML
emulator/usr/libexec/libvirt_lxc/emulator. The libvirt_lxc binary is the
host-side helper, akin to /bin/qemu-system-x86_64
in QEMU/KVM world. We put it under /usr/libexec
On 20 December 2012 22:16, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
On Fri, 2012-12-21 at 06:09 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 12/21/2012 05:54 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 05:38:17AM +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
I disagree. systemd simply hasn't taken libexecdir
Question: Does this affect mock builds on koji ?
NM
2012/12/21 Kevin Fenzi ke...@scrye.com:
Just a heads up to everyone using f18 right now:
with fedora-release-18-1 that just pushed out to updates-testing
yesterday, the updates-testing repo is now by default disabled.
This means you may
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 18:28:42 +,
Nelson Marques nmo.marq...@gmail.com wrote:
Question: Does this affect mock builds on koji ?
I don't think so.
koji builds only use what's in stable and explicit overrides.
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Nelson Marques nmo.marq...@gmail.com wrote:
Question: Does this affect mock builds on koji ?
No. This has no effect on them.
F18 builds in koji never have used updates-testing, nor will they.
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On Fri, 2012-12-21 at 12:30 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 09:16:00PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
I've never seen any distro take any notice of this standard whatsoever.
Well, if you don't count Red Hat Linux, Fedora, and Red Hat Enterprise
Linux
I should
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 04:47:58PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 12:42:14AM -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote:
However, you also miss my point. Adam's message was saying that the
guidelines forced people to use libexecdir and then went on to point out the
drawbacks of
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Matthew Garrett mj...@srcf.ucam.org wrote:
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 09:06:07AM -0800, Brendan Conoboy wrote:
On 12/21/2012 08:53 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
Are you looking at F19 or F20 for PA?
This will be a very engaging topic at FUDCon next month. Current
Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) said:
it is simply wrong to place internal binaries in %{_libdir}. internal
binaries should not be subject to multlib'ed dirs, the same way as
binaries in bin/ are not...
I would note I have seen cases where helper binaries actually needed to be
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 10:33:27AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2012-12-21 at 12:30 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 09:16:00PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
I've never seen any distro take any notice of this standard whatsoever.
Well, if you don't count Red
Once upon a time, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com said:
In any case, I agree - my proposal was that packages that use
non-multilibbed helper binaries should be free to put them in *one of*
$prefix/lib or $prefix/libexec, as long as they remain consistent.
As a sys admin (and an OCD one at
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 02:17:39PM -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) said:
it is simply wrong to place internal binaries in %{_libdir}. internal
binaries should not be subject to multlib'ed dirs, the same way as
binaries in bin/ are not...
I would
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 4:47 AM, Vít Ondruch vondr...@redhat.com wrote:
Hi everybody,
According to Ruby 2.0 release schedule:
- code freeze: 23 Dec.
- 2.0.0-rc1 release: 1W Jan. (expected)
- 2.0.0-rc2 release: 1W Feb. (expected)
- 2.0.0-p0 release: 24 Feb.
the official release
Hello all,
I'm interested in becoming a Fedora package maintainer, thought I'd throw
out the self-introduction. A bit about me: I currently work as a release
engineer at Puppet Labs in Portland, Oregon, and before that was a Mac
sysadmin for a local college here. Most of my packaging experience
On Fri, 2012-12-21 at 16:57 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
The database is bitrotten and even it it wasn't most modern layouts do not
exist kbd-side at all. Most layouts with perfect mapping are old legacy
ascii layouts. They are still in xkb-config for historical reasons but in
many
On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 3:49 PM, Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote:
On Qui, 2012-12-20 at 20:16 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
IIRC, an anaconda bug already exists (don't remember the number, I do
remember answering some questions Mismo asked about the Debian system
there)
I need the
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Date: Fri Dec 21 12:46:25 2012 +
Update to 0.16
- New upstream release 0.16:
- Allow use of a custom POD parser rather than Pod::Spell using
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- Re-diff patch
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Date: Fri Dec 21 15:38:39 2012 +
Update to 2.12
- New upstream release 2.12:
- Default for Mail::Header::new(Modify) is 'false', not 'true'
(CPAN RT#79985)
- Mail::Address
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Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org
Date: Fri Dec 21 16:16:40 2012 +
Update to 0.1202
- New upstream release 0.1202
- Fix for hash key randomization after 5.17.5 (CPAN RT#81879)
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=786080
--- Comment #3 from Fedora Update System upda...@fedoraproject.org ---
Package perl-Shipwright-2.4.33-1.fc18:
* should fix your issue,
* was pushed to the Fedora 18 testing repository,
* should be available at your local mirror
Product: Fedora
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=889645
Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de changed:
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Date: Sat Dec 22 07:29:07 2012 +0100
Update README.fedora to use systemctl instead of /sbin/service.
- Rework man-page processing.
- Fix up *.spec changelog dates (Fix f19 FTBFS).
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