On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Peter Jones pjo...@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 04:25:05AM -0800, Dan Mashal wrote:
I'm sure QA, releng, docs, etc will go with what the community decides.
Lets have a poll. A very public one.
On the main website. Not somebody's blog. And let's
On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 19:54:23 -0700, Orion Poplawski wrote:
Looks like going from glpk 4.47 to 4.48 bumped the soname from
libglpk.so.0 to libglpk.so.33. Something tells me this was not expected
and is not correct. Can this be verified?
Could be an accident in the upstream tarball
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
johan...@gmail.com wrote:
Last night I let my feelings getting best of me got drunk, went out of line,
generally behaved dishonorably and in the process disrespected the community
and the people in it.
Thank you for realizing you had
It takes a brave soul to publicly apologize.
And thank you Jared for the great advice, I feel like I owe one as well but
not in this thread.
Dan
On Sunday, February 3, 2013, Jared K. Smith wrote:
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
johan...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote:
Il 02/02/2013 14:49, Björn Persson ha scritto:
Paolo Bonzini wrote:
If you're talking about RDRAND, it doesn't hand out entropy. That's
RDSEED, which will only come with Haswell.
RDRAND only hands out random numbers.
Huh? Random numbers is pretty much synonymous to entropy in the
Compose started at Sun Feb 3 08:17:07 UTC 2013
Broken deps for x86_64
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[4ti2]
4ti2-1.3.2-12.fc18.x86_64 requires libglpk.so.0()(64bit)
[bibletime]
bibletime-2.9.1-3.fc18.x86_64 requires libicuuc.so.49()(64bit)
29.01.2013 10:59, lakshminaras2...@gmail.com wrote:
I am releasing ownership of the following packages due to lack of time
chm2pdf -- A tool to convert CHM files to PDF files
I have taken this one.
Strange, but can't do it for Fedora 17.
emacs-slime -- The superior lisp interaction mode for
On 02/03/2013 10:25 PM, Fedora Rawhide Report wrote:
Compose started at Sun Feb 3 08:17:07 UTC 2013
Broken deps for x86_64
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[gnome-applets]
1:gnome-applets-3.5.92-3.fc18.x86_64 requires
libgweather-3.so.1()(64bit)
With the
29.01.2013 06:51, Richard Shaw wrote:
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 7:37 PM, Rakesh Pandit rakesh.pan...@gmail.com wrote:
tinyxml -- A simple, small, C++ XML parser
I've requested this one in pkgdb.
It is interesting and small library and there I found tends to bundle it
in other packages which is
I would like take dvtm and pstreams-devel.
29.01.2013 05:37, Rakesh Pandit wrote:
Hi,
I haven't been able to keep up maintenance of packages for year plus
now and I don't see myself doing that for next 6-7months more. Right
now I am too busy with university course work.
But I will come back
On 02/01/2013 04:39 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote:
Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said:
Feature owner(s): Cole Robinson crobi...@redhat.com, Amit Shah
amit.s...@redhat.com
Provide a paravirtual random number generator to virtual machines, to
prevent
entropy starvation in guests.
hello,
due a mistake the license tag of the gprolog package specify a wrong
license. The gprolog package should be licensed under the GPLv2+
instead of GPLv2.
I have corrected the wrong license specification on all currently
maintained fedora distributions.
Best Regards:
Jochen Schmitt
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W dniu 02.02.2013 10:55, Orcan Ogetbil pisze:
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 4:33 AM, Julian Sikorski wrote:
Hi,
I am having issues building mplayer using gcc-4.8. An updated srpm [1]
builds fine in mock for fedora-18-x86_64-rpmfusion_free target (when
chain-built with ffmpeg-1.1.1), but on
On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 12:46 PM, Peter Jones pjo...@redhat.com wrote:
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 04:25:05AM -0800, Dan Mashal wrote:
I'm sure QA, releng, docs, etc will go with what the community decides.
Lets have a poll. A very public one.
On the main website. Not somebody's blog. And let's
Am 03.02.2013 17:50, schrieb M. Edward (Ed) Borasky:
Fedora used to have Smolt and there are tools to figure out what
packages people use. There's no reason Fedora *can't* be data driven,
but there's a whole lot of business process stuff you'd need to
commit to for it to work without wasting
01.02.2013 00:42, James Hogarth wrote:
Is it?
http://blog.mariadb.org/explanation-on-mariadb-10-0/ and
http://blog.mariadb.org/mariadb-10-0-and-mysql-5-6/ seem to
suggest that MariaDB will no longer be following Mysql as
religiously as the feature suggests
I'd still say
On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 18:32:58 +0400
Pavel Alexeev fo...@hubbitus.com.ru wrote:
29.01.2013 10:59, lakshminaras2...@gmail.com wrote:
I am releasing ownership of the following packages due to lack of
time
chm2pdf -- A tool to convert CHM files to PDF files
I have taken this one.
Strange,
Hello.
Yum also may be used with --installroot=root
I have used yum and rpm on that kind with aliases for current user to
install software from repositories on shared hosting absolutely without
root privileges.
In most cases it works, except some cases when particular binaries looks
say own
Hi
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
data like from smolt are useless!
i maintain around 40 fedora-setups which are never touching
any fedora-machine because of internal repos and it is countless
how many machines are often installed with one ISO download
Smolt
you believe someone starts smolt manually on a clone
to raise up any statistics? not really!
fact is you have NO NUMBERS at all for opensource
That is not true. We have some numbers. They are not 100% accurate and we
never claim it will be. You are misleading users by talking about ISO
Am 03.02.2013 19:18, schrieb Rahul Sundaram:
Hi
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:
data like from smolt are useless!
i maintain around 40 fedora-setups which are never touching
any fedora-machine because of internal repos and it is countless
how
On Sun, 2013-02-03 at 17:53 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 03.02.2013 17:50, schrieb M. Edward (Ed) Borasky:
Fedora used to have Smolt and there are tools to figure out what
packages people use. There's no reason Fedora *can't* be data driven,
but there's a whole lot of business process
Am 03.02.2013 20:22, schrieb Pierre-Yves Chibon:
On Sun, 2013-02-03 at 17:53 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 03.02.2013 17:50, schrieb M. Edward (Ed) Borasky:
Fedora used to have Smolt and there are tools to figure out what
packages people use. There's no reason Fedora *can't* be data
Hi
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
useful to count what?
you need users ACTIVELY use it
you need users ACTIVELY use it after dist-upgrades
This isn't true. There is a cron job that continues to keep the profile
updated
the only thing smolt stats are showing is
Misc stuff:
[bootconf] - was deprecated without properly blocking. Filed:
https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5466 to have it blocked.
[epiphany-extensions] - still needs blocking/EOL
See bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=875234
[ghc-wai-extra] - still needs some new
01.02.2013 00:17, drago01 wrote:
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 14:20 +0100, Robert Mayr wrote:
I think that's not the point, one of the two suites will be dominant
and you can't provide both of them on a live image for
01.02.2013 17:38, Matej Cepl wrote:
On 2013-01-31, 22:07 GMT, Chris Adams wrote:
I'm not saying having both is a bad thing, but I would like to think
that there's some thought given to does Fedora gain from having both,
since there is a cost involved.
We don’t (unfortunately?) have policy to
03.02.2013 21:48, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Sun, 03 Feb 2013 18:32:58 +0400
Pavel Alexeev fo...@hubbitus.com.ru wrote:
29.01.2013 10:59, lakshminaras2...@gmail.com wrote:
I am releasing ownership of the following packages due to lack of
time
chm2pdf -- A tool to convert CHM files to PDF files
Jaroslav Reznik wrote, at 01/28/2013 08:27 PM +9:00:
= Features/libkkc =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/libkkc
Feature owner(s): Daiki Ueno ueno at gnu.org
libkkc, a new Japanese Kana Kanji input library, will be available in Fedora
19, along with an IBus input method engine which
Hi Martin,
Am Donnerstag, den 31.01.2013, 13:28 +0100 schrieb Martin Sourada:
Also, since Apache took over OpenOffice.org and put it out of
incubation, it seems the development has been progressing rather well
and in a different direction than LibreOffice. While both started from
the same
On Mon, Feb 04, 2013 at 12:15:43AM +0400, Pavel Alexeev wrote:
01.02.2013 00:17, drago01 wrote:
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com
wrote:
On Thu, 2013-01-31 at 14:20 +0100, Robert Mayr wrote:
I think that's not the point, one
On 3 February 2013 19:04, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote:
I think it should be approved first if it really required.
alternatives is the wrong technology for end user facing applications.
Why can't our apache openoffice package rename /usr/bin/soffice?
My understanding is that
On Sun, Feb 3, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Feb 04, 2013 at 12:15:43AM +0400, Pavel Alexeev wrote:
01.02.2013 00:17, drago01 wrote:
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 8:10 PM, Adam Williamson
awill...@redhat.com wrote:
On Thu, 2013-01-31 at
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
Note that this doesn't fix problems caused by dropped packages, that block
other packages from being updated.
That's a problem for all upgrade methods, they might leave your system with
broken dependencies instead of erroring out, but in the end the problem is
always
Lennart Poettering wrote:
The thing is that doing on-line updates only works for stuff you can
restart, and that doesn't mind that things are not atomically
updated. However, much (most?) of our code isn't like that. Anybody who
tried to update the Firefox RPM while it is running knows that
Lennart Poettering wrote:
Ah, so you have to reboot anyway, so where is the difference between
your approach and proper offline updates then? Either way you have to
interrupt your work to reboot the machine. One just takes a slight bit
longer for rebooting...
That yum is tested every day and
Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Features/FedoraUpgrade =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/FedoraUpgrade
Feature owner(s): Miroslav Suchý msu...@redhat.com
Upgrade Fedora to next version using yum upgrade.
I agree this should be officially supported, but:
I propose to have FedUp and
drago01 wrote:
And the major issue with yum upgrades is that online upgrades can fail
not only based on what you have installed but also what is currently
running and it cannot handle stuff like usermove without user
intervention.
1. That's a problem with UsrMove, not with yum!
2. UsrMove CAN
drago01 wrote:
I doubt that you can install all packages without hitting conflicts.
That just shows again how Conflicts are evil and how we're way too tolerant
about them. There should be NO conflicting packages in the official
repositories.
Kevin Kofler
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Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
Users are better of keeping /home on a separated partition and re-use it
with an fresh install then those poor attempts to support upgrades one
way or another which at this point in time we cant do since the bits for
that aren't properly aligned to make that
Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
If the current maintainers orphan mysql anyone can pick it up including
Oracle employees and continue it's maintenance within the distribution.
Any beef, competition or what not between Red Hat and Oracle ( or anyone
else for that matter ) is between Red Hat and
Remi Collet wrote:
- if you don't like fork of MySQL, why do you fork other projects ?
MW include a forked version of vsqlite++
(and AFAIK, upstream is not aware of your changes / need)
Another project Oracle effectively forked in OpenOffice.org, by refusing to
donate the OpenOffice.org
Hi
But the fact that the packages conflict should stand in the way.
We don't have any guidelines that forbids it.
I don't see how having 2 packages which are drop-in replacements of each
other and ship conflicting files (requiring the packages to Conflict with
each other at RPM level) is
Once upon a time, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com said:
My understanding is that /usr/bin/soffice is a symlink in order to
keep backwards maintainability. Personally I say both packages drop it
because star office is s 1999. :)
There's more than just soffice:
$ rpm -ql
M. Edward (Ed) Borasky wrote:
I love GNOME 3 and detest KDE 4. I've tried MATE and Cinnamon on both
Linux Mint and Fedora and don't really see the point of either of them
as long as GNOME 3 offers fallback mode.
Fallback mode is going away in F19, it's already gone upstream.
When you come
Eric Smith wrote:
On 01/28/2013 08:47 AM, Máirín Duffy wrote:
I think switching the desktop that has been our default for over 10
years and 18 releases requires just a bit more research and reason
than that. ~m
I don't disagree with the more research and reason part, but the
current
Sandro Mani wrote:
Can't we simply re-organize the fedoraproject website in such way that the
download button points to something similar to the current More options
page, maybe with a small description for each desktop like easy to use /
feature rich and customizable / based on the
Matthias Clasen wrote:
- Cinnamon started out as 'using GNOME components', but it is [now] a full
fork of mutter, gnome-shell and nautilus, at least, and bug-fixes are not
going either way...
Those are applications which form the workspace, not random components.
I'm fairly sure that when
Adam Williamson wrote:
2. Can't we just not have a default?
Not really. Others have touched on this, but the websites team really
wants the simplicity of a straightforward 'Download' link that gets you
a live image, and that pretty much requires a default desktop.
And just because the
Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Features/Cinnamon as Default Desktop =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Cinnamon_as_Default_Desktop
Feature owner(s): Eric Smith e...@brouhaha.com
This feature proposes that Fedora switch the default desktop interface
from Gnome 3 to Cinnamon. Cinnamon
Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Because the current mysql maintainers are keeping it around for f19 as
an option and others have expressed interest in taking over maintaining
it.
Do we really have to do this? Having 2 conflicting packages which are drop-
in replacements of each other in the repository is
Martin Sourada wrote:
and supposedly AOO is rather popular, though I don't have any hard
numbers, just a hearsay
Apache OpenOffice is popular because some people missed the LibreOffice
rename and don't realize they're actually using an inferior fork when they
download OpenOffice.
Hi,
On Sun, Feb 03, 2013 at 11:26:35PM -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com said:
My understanding is that /usr/bin/soffice is a symlink in order to
keep backwards maintainability. Personally I say both packages drop it
because star office is
Matej Cepl wrote:
We don’t (unfortunately?) have policy to stop somebody from packaging
whatever they want (if it satisfies Fedora packaging policy).
FESCo can explicitly veto a package or category of packages, see kernel
modules. Why would it not be possible to ban forks of LibreOffice by
Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
= Features/ApacheOpenOffice =
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ApacheOpenOffice
Feature owner(s): Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org
Add Apache OpenOffice, the free productivity suite, to Fedora.
A big -1 to this feature, and in fact I'd urge FESCo to veto
Mátyás Selmeci wrote:
This may be a long shot, but I am interested in repackaging some
RPMs (for example, some of the Globus packages in EPEL, as well as
grid software that my group builds) such that the software in them
may be installed by unprivileged users, or into a
Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
You should *always* set LC_ALL=C when running an external command from
another program (and most probably from a shell script too).
I think LC_NUMERIC is probably what's wanted in this case, not LC_ALL.
Still, command-line arguments depending on LC_NUMERIC (or worse,
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Do you have a proposal to solve it other than excluding all possible
alternative implementations? If so, you should post it and let FPC vote on
it.
For a starter, I propose excluding all new uses of Conflicts (except with
someEVR versioning where an EVR = someEVR is
I wrote:
Sandro Mani wrote:
Can't we simply re-organize the fedoraproject website in such way that
the download button points to something similar to the current More
options page, maybe with a small description for each desktop like easy
to use / feature rich and customizable / based on the
David Tardon wrote:
Hi,
On Sun, Feb 03, 2013 at 11:26:35PM -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com said:
My understanding is that /usr/bin/soffice is a symlink in order to
keep backwards maintainability. Personally I say both packages drop it
PPS: Oh, and this:
The /usr/bin/soffice alias is still a problem since (in the Fedora
packages) it would conflict between LibreOffice and Apache OpenOffice: it
is recommended to fix it in the LibreOffice packages too, at least using
the Alternatives system.
is just not acceptable. Alternatives
Hi
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 2:31 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
For a starter, I propose excluding all new uses of Conflicts (except with
someEVR versioning where an EVR = someEVR is already available in the
repository, or if the item being conflicted with is not in Fedora), and
trying to get the
Matthias Clasen wrote:
I just realized that there is a change to the way polkit is packaged in
f19 that spin maintainers should be aware of: the polkit package is just
the service, which only provides the default policy as specified in the
action definitions now. If you want or need support
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Bug ID: 907121
Summary: perl-App-cpanminus-1.5021 is available
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Version: rawhide
Component: perl-App-cpanminus
Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=907122
Bug ID: 907122
Summary: perl-PathTools-3.40 is available
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Version: rawhide
Component: perl-PathTools
Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=907123
Bug ID: 907123
Summary: perl-PPIx-Regexp-0.031 is available
Product: Fedora
Version: rawhide
Component: perl-PPIx-Regexp
Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=907124
Bug ID: 907124
Summary: perl-Regexp-Grammars-1.026 is available
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Version: rawhide
Component: perl-Regexp-Grammars
Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
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https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=907125
Bug ID: 907125
Summary: perl-Rose-DB-Object-0.804 is available
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Version: rawhide
Component: perl-Rose-DB-Object
Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
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Bug ID: 907126
Summary: perl-Text-VimColor-0.23 is available
Product: Fedora
Version: rawhide
Component: perl-Text-VimColor
Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
perl-OpenOffice-UNO has broken dependencies in the rawhide tree:
On i386:
perl-OpenOffice-UNO-0.07-6.fc19.i686 requires libstlport_gcc.so
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Summary of changes:
57404a7... update to 0.08200 (*)
d40b512... update to 0.08203 (*)
a729994... update to 0.08205 (*)
c9f6e24... explicitly provide DBIx::Class::Carp (*)
b1cc07d... rebuild without bootstrap again (*)
d724109... loosen some overly restrictive build dependencies
(*)
commit d7241096d512422fb5d946c920a83c2350708bce
Author: Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com
Date: Sun Feb 3 08:56:26 2013 -0700
loosen some overly restrictive build dependencies
perl-DBIx-Class.spec | 25 ++---
1 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 15 deletions(-)
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perl-DBIx-Class-0.08205-1.fc18 has been submitted as an update for Fedora 18.
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/perl-DBIx-Class-0.08205-1.fc18
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Author: Iain Arnell iarn...@gmail.com
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Thanks Iain. Just installed and tested and all seems good :-)
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commit 3acd539ef8d8a22b87800f37fe3d397c84d7c938
Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org
Date: Sun Feb 3 22:29:30 2013 +
Drop requirement for libreoffice-sdk 4; builds OK with LibreOffice 4
perl-OpenOffice-UNO.spec |8 +---
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On Sun, 3 Feb 2013 22:30:11 + (UTC)
Paul Howarth pghm...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
commit 3acd539ef8d8a22b87800f37fe3d397c84d7c938
Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org
Date: Sun Feb 3 22:29:30 2013 +
Drop requirement for libreoffice-sdk 4; builds OK with
LibreOffice 4
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