EPEL epel beta report: 20140430 changes

2014-04-30 Thread EPEL Beta Report
Compose started at Wed Apr 30 08:15:03 UTC 2014 New package: debootstrap-1.0.59-1.el7.2 Debian GNU/Linux bootstrapper New package: dmenu-4.5-5.20140425git.el7 Generic menu for X New package: linux_logo-5.11-7.el7 Show a logo with some system info on the

Re: EPEL RFC: Strategy for python3 versions

2014-04-30 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 30 April 2014 07:51, Pat Riehecky riehe...@fnal.gov wrote: I wonder if the softwarecollections.org repos might be a better choice for this. All the userspace tools already exist in 5, 6 and 7. Pat I am thinking that softwarecollections and EPEL may have competing solutions to the same

Re: EPEL RFC: Strategy for python3 versions

2014-04-30 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 30 April 2014 08:46, Toshio Kuratomi a.bad...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 07:22:40PM -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote: Finally: python34-3.4 This has precedent. The main reason I chose this when doing the mediawiki packages was to avoid parsing problems due to the fact

Re: EPEL RFC: Strategy for python3 versions

2014-04-30 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 04/30/2014 07:51 AM, Pat Riehecky wrote: I wonder if the softwarecollections.org repos might be a better choice for this. All the userspace tools already exist in 5, 6 and 7. Pat I think EL7 deserves to have a system integrated python3 version. -- Orion Poplawski Technical Manager

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

2014-04-30 Thread Alexander Larsson
On tis, 2014-04-29 at 11:24 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: On Tue, 2014-04-29 at 17:15 +0200, Alexander Larsson wrote: On tis, 2014-04-29 at 14:15 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Proposed System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver =

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Wayland

2014-04-30 Thread drago01
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 12:41 AM, Bojan Smojver bo...@rexursive.com wrote: On Tue, 2014-04-29 at 14:04 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: GNOME is being ported to Wayland. In particular GNOME shell is changed to run as a Wayland compositor instead of an X11 compositor. Does that mean that the

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: LVM Cache Logical Volumes

2014-04-30 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - Hello, 2014-04-29 14:48 GMT+02:00 Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com : = Proposed Self Contained Change: LVM Cache Logical Volumes = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Cache_Logical_Volumes * Other developers: N/A (not a System Wide Change)

Re: kernel packaging split up landing in Rawhide

2014-04-30 Thread Steven Whitehouse
Hi, On 29/04/14 22:41, Josh Boyer wrote: Hi All, As part of the F21 Modular Kernel Packaging for Cloud Feature[1], I've committed and pushed the kernel packaging split up into kernel-core and kernel-drivers subpackages. For those of you running rawhide, this really shouldn't be a major impact

[perl-PerlIO-via-Timeout/epel7] Initial import (#1080952).

2014-04-30 Thread David Dick
Summary of changes: 5f602f7... Initial import (#1080952). (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Python 3.4 to rawhide

2014-04-30 Thread Matej Stuchlik
Good day folks, Python 3.4 is now [ready and tagged] in f21-python, so I'd like to ask you to make whatever modifications that may be necessary and [rebuild] your Python packages into the tag. Once we have sufficient fraction up and running, we'll merge with rawhide. Note that your spec file may

Re: We want to stop systemd from being added to docker images, because of rpm requiring systemctl.

2014-04-30 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 29.04.14 15:36, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner (marcelo.leit...@gmail.com) wrote: Em 29-04-2014 12:27, Lennart Poettering escreveu: On Tue, 29.04.14 10:37, Daniel J Walsh (dwa...@redhat.com) wrote: On 04/29/2014 06:33 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mon, 28.04.14 17:01, Daniel J Walsh

Re: Orphaning java-1.5.0-gcj

2014-04-30 Thread Florian Weimer
On 04/07/2014 07:29 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: As of JDK8, OpenJDK can be cross-compiled. Not before time, either. It seems to me that support is fairly limited—you cannot compile Hotspot across different operating systems, but perhaps across CPU architectures. In the context of GCJ

Re: kernel packaging split up landing in Rawhide

2014-04-30 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 5:41 AM, Steven Whitehouse swhit...@redhat.com wrote: Hi, On 29/04/14 22:41, Josh Boyer wrote: Hi All, As part of the F21 Modular Kernel Packaging for Cloud Feature[1], I've committed and pushed the kernel packaging split up into kernel-core and kernel-drivers

Re: kernel packaging split up landing in Rawhide

2014-04-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 29.04.2014 23:41, schrieb Josh Boyer: As part of the F21 Modular Kernel Packaging for Cloud Feature[1], I've committed and pushed the kernel packaging split up into kernel-core and kernel-drivers subpackages. For those of you running rawhide, this really shouldn't be a major impact at

Re: Python 3.4 to rawhide

2014-04-30 Thread Kalev Lember
On 04/30/2014 12:22 PM, Matej Stuchlik wrote: Good day folks, Python 3.4 is now [ready and tagged] in f21-python, so I'd like to ask you to make whatever modifications that may be necessary and [rebuild] your Python packages into the tag. Once we have sufficient fraction up and running, we'll

Re: kernel packaging split up landing in Rawhide

2014-04-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 07:56:29 -0400, Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: Nothing at the moment. Later this week I'm going to look at enabling auto-provides for kernel modules in the various kernel packages. This will make situations like this much more flexible, as gfs2-utils

F21 Self Contained Change: The Shogun Machine Learning Toolbox

2014-04-30 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: The Shogun Machine Learning Toolbox = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/shogun Change owner(s): Björn Esser besse...@fedoraproject.org SHOGUN is a large Scale Machine Learning Toolbox, being implemented in C++ and offering interfaces to C#, Java, Lua,

F21 Self Contained Change: MariaDB 10.0

2014-04-30 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: MariaDB 10.0 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/MariaDB10 Change owner(s): Jakub Dorňák jdor...@redhat.com Update MariaDB to version 10.0 == Detailed Description == MariaDB 10.0 is the current stable (GA) release of MariaDB. It is built on the MariaDB

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

2014-04-30 Thread Simo Sorce
On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 08:49 +0200, Alexander Larsson wrote: On tis, 2014-04-29 at 11:24 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: On Tue, 2014-04-29 at 17:15 +0200, Alexander Larsson wrote: On tis, 2014-04-29 at 14:15 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Proposed System Wide Change: Default Local DNS

Re: fedora-atomic discussion point: /usr/lib/passwd

2014-04-30 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com wrote: can you use an actual chroot ? Calling chroot tends to imply running code from the target system. I'd prefer to avoid that by default. In practice some things are going to require it, but the more we can avoid it, the

Re: We want to stop systemd from being added to docker images, because of rpm requiring systemctl.

2014-04-30 Thread Daniel J Walsh
On 04/29/2014 05:47 PM, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner wrote: Em 29-04-2014 18:27, Martin Langhoff escreveu: On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net mailto:h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote: defense in depth means limit the attack surface as much as you can As folks

Headsup: Ruby 2.1, Rubygems 2.2, Ruby on Rails 4.1 and Minitest 5.x in Rawhide

2014-04-30 Thread Vít Ondruch
Hi All, During the last few days, we've been preparing a rebase to Ruby 2.1 in f21-ruby sidetag and it was just merged back to Rawhide. This rebase involves libruby soname bump. Updated Ruby carries RubyGems 2.2. We've tried to rebuilt all binary packages, but some remaining - which were

[389-devel] Build failed in Jenkins: 389-ds-base #348

2014-04-30 Thread jenkins
See http://jenkins.cloud.fedoraproject.org/job/389-ds-base/348/ -- Started by an SCM change Building remotely on Fedora20 in workspace http://jenkins.cloud.fedoraproject.org/job/389-ds-base/ws/ Wiping out workspace first. Cloning the remote Git repository

Re: We want to stop systemd from being added to docker images, because of rpm requiring systemctl.

2014-04-30 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 04/30/2014 01:44 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: I agree, where do I open a bugzilla to make this happen? rpm? Distro? Systemd? Dont you need to first file a change with FPC to the packaging guideline then file bug against every component that has that Require, then provide patches that

Re: EPEL RFC: Strategy for python3 versions

2014-04-30 Thread Pat Riehecky
I wonder if the softwarecollections.org repos might be a better choice for this. All the userspace tools already exist in 5, 6 and 7. Pat On 04/29/2014 08:22 PM, Orion Poplawski wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/29/2014 05:54 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: Hi guys,

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Wayland

2014-04-30 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Hi! Jaroslav Reznik wrote on 29.04.2014 14:04: Port the GNOME desktop to Wayland. Sorry, but what is actually proposed here? The above sentence for me doesn't make any sense(¹), as Gnome 3.12 is able to run on Wayland already (not perfectly, but it works afaik), so it was ported already I'd

Re: We want to stop systemd from being added to docker images, because of rpm requiring systemctl.

2014-04-30 Thread Kalev Lember
On 04/29/2014 12:31 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mon, 28.04.14 15:11, Toshio Kuratomi (a.bad...@gmail.com) wrote: On Apr 28, 2014 5:01 PM, Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com wrote: The problem is lots of services require systemd because they ship a unit file and want systemctl reload to

Re: We want to stop systemd from being added to docker images, because of rpm requiring systemctl.

2014-04-30 Thread Daniel J Walsh
On 04/30/2014 10:05 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: On 04/29/2014 12:31 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mon, 28.04.14 15:11, Toshio Kuratomi (a.bad...@gmail.com) wrote: On Apr 28, 2014 5:01 PM, Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com wrote: The problem is lots of services require systemd because they

Re: We want to stop systemd from being added to docker images, because of rpm requiring systemctl.

2014-04-30 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 16:05:37 +0200, Kalev Lember kalevlem...@gmail.com wrote: I suspect just dropping the deps would break initial installations, e.g. anaconda / livecd-creator. RPM uses the deps to order the transaction so that systemd gets installed first, and the packages that ship

Re: We want to stop systemd from being added to docker images, because of rpm requiring systemctl.

2014-04-30 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 16:05 +0200, Kalev Lember wrote: I suspect just dropping the deps would break initial installations, e.g. anaconda / livecd-creator. RPM uses the deps to order the transaction so that systemd gets installed first, and the packages that ship service files get installed

Re: Headsup: Ruby 2.1, Rubygems 2.2, Ruby on Rails 4.1 and Minitest 5.x in Rawhide

2014-04-30 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 30.4.2014 15:46, Vít Ondruch napsal(a): Hi All, During the last few days, we've been preparing a rebase to Ruby 2.1 in f21-ruby sidetag and it was just merged back to Rawhide. This rebase involves libruby soname bump. Updated Ruby carries RubyGems 2.2. We've tried to rebuilt all binary

[perl-qpid_proton/f20] (8 commits) ...Merge branch 'f20'

2014-04-30 Thread Darryl L . Pierce
Summary of changes: a0427c5... Changed the qpid-proton dependency to qpid-proton-c. (*) 8cb9c27... Rebased on Proton 0.5. (*) 0481900... Added the specific Perl provides for Proton. (*) 9c5b0f5... Rebased on Qpid Proton 0.6. (*) ca5acb9... Merge branch 'f20' into f19 (*) 91ae5ef...

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Wayland

2014-04-30 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - Hi! Jaroslav Reznik wrote on 29.04.2014 14:04: Port the GNOME desktop to Wayland. Sorry, but what is actually proposed here? The above sentence for me doesn't make any sense(¹), as Gnome 3.12 is able to run on Wayland already (not perfectly, but it works

[perl-qpid_proton/f20: 8/8] Merge branch 'f20'

2014-04-30 Thread Darryl L . Pierce
commit b94220d367838d49f66b4995ec422414f6b5ad7b Merge: f8e2dec 91ae5ef Author: Darryl L. Pierce mcpie...@gmail.com Date: Wed Apr 30 10:36:02 2014 -0400 Merge branch 'f20' perl-qpid_proton.spec |9 - 1 files changed, 0 insertions(+), 9 deletions(-) --- -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG

Re: We want to stop systemd from being added to docker images, because of rpm requiring systemctl.

2014-04-30 Thread Daniel J Walsh
On 04/30/2014 10:28 AM, Adam Jackson wrote: On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 16:05 +0200, Kalev Lember wrote: I suspect just dropping the deps would break initial installations, e.g. anaconda / livecd-creator. RPM uses the deps to order the transaction so that systemd gets installed first, and the

Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2014-04-30)

2014-04-30 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Wednesday at 17:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d

Re: We want to stop systemd from being added to docker images, because of rpm requiring systemctl.

2014-04-30 Thread Kalev Lember
On 04/30/2014 04:28 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: If you are right, this is an argument for rpm collections, which we've had for ages now and should really start using. YES! Getting rid of the copy-pasted rpm scriptlets would be a huge win. They are error prone and require huge effort to get them

Re: fedora-atomic discussion point: /usr/lib/passwd

2014-04-30 Thread Simo Sorce
On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 13:25 +, Colin Walters wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com wrote: can you use an actual chroot ? Calling chroot tends to imply running code from the target system. I'd prefer to avoid that by default. In practice some things

Re: We want to stop systemd from being added to docker images, because of rpm requiring systemctl.

2014-04-30 Thread Kalev Lember
On 04/30/2014 04:24 PM, Daniel J Walsh wrote: On 04/30/2014 10:05 AM, Kalev Lember wrote: For example, when a package bar has a postinstall script that does: systemctl enable bar.service /dev/null 21 || : .. but if systemctl gets installed _after_ foo in the same transaction, then the

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Wayland

2014-04-30 Thread Thorsten Leemhuis
Hi! Jaroslav Reznik wrote on 30.04.2014 16:27: - Original Message - Jaroslav Reznik wrote on 29.04.2014 14:04: Port the GNOME desktop to Wayland. Sorry, but what is actually proposed here? The above sentence for me doesn't make any sense(¹), as Gnome 3.12 is able to run on Wayland

Re: We want to stop systemd from being added to docker images, because of rpm requiring systemctl.

2014-04-30 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 04/30/2014 02:52 PM, Kalev Lember wrote: On 04/30/2014 04:28 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: If you are right, this is an argument for rpm collections, which we've had for ages now and should really start using. YES! Getting rid of the copy-pasted rpm scriptlets would be a huge win. They are

Re: We want to stop systemd from being added to docker images, because of rpm requiring systemctl.

2014-04-30 Thread Richard Hughes
On 30 April 2014 15:52, Kalev Lember kalevlem...@gmail.com wrote: Getting rid of the copy-pasted rpm scriptlets would be a huge win. Totally agree. We should make this happen. SUSE has been doing it for years. Richard -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2014-04-30)

2014-04-30 Thread Matthew Miller
I've got a conflicting meeting and will probably show up late -- sorry for the late notice. -- Matthew Miller-- Fedora Project--mat...@fedoraproject.org Tepid change for the somewhat better! -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2014-04-30)

2014-04-30 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/30/2014 12:04 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: I've got a conflicting meeting and will probably show up late -- sorry for the late notice. I also have a conflicting meeting and will be an hour late. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1

Re: We want to stop systemd from being added to docker images, because of rpm requiring systemctl.

2014-04-30 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 10:28:56AM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 16:05 +0200, Kalev Lember wrote: I suspect just dropping the deps would break initial installations, e.g. anaconda / livecd-creator. RPM uses the deps to order the transaction so that systemd gets

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

2014-04-30 Thread Petr Spacek
On 30.4.2014 15:29, Simo Sorce wrote: On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 08:49 +0200, Alexander Larsson wrote: On tis, 2014-04-29 at 11:24 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: On Tue, 2014-04-29 at 17:15 +0200, Alexander Larsson wrote: On tis, 2014-04-29 at 14:15 +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Proposed System Wide

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

2014-04-30 Thread Robert Marcano
On 04/30/2014 01:17 AM, P J P wrote: On Wednesday, 30 April 2014 3:18 AM, Al Dunsmuir wrote: On my home LAN, I run my own DNSSEC-enabled server using F20 bind 9. This local server also is my DHCP and Samba server. As usual, dynamic clients receive the LAN local domain ID and DNS

Re: We want to stop systemd from being added to docker images, because of rpm requiring systemctl.

2014-04-30 Thread Adam Jackson
On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 12:34 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 10:28:56AM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 16:05 +0200, Kalev Lember wrote: For example, when a package bar has a postinstall script that does: systemctl enable bar.service /dev/null

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

2014-04-30 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 30 Apr 2014, Robert Marcano wrote: What about domain and search lines? If NetworkManager will always use 127.0.0.1, it should still modify resolv.conf with the domain name received from DHCP That's actually not always correct from a security point of view. If you set your system do

Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo Meeting (2014-04-30)

2014-04-30 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 === #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2014-04-30) === Meeting started by dgilmore at 17:01:09 UTC. The full logs are available at

Re: Mass bug: packages should not auto-enable systemd units

2014-04-30 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
Due to some confusion around how alternatives worked, I screwed up the list of packages here. I've updated it below. I'll give it a few more days before filing the actual bugs. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Andrew Lutomirski l...@mit.edu wrote: Hi everyone- This is a notice in accordance

Re: Mass bug: packages should not auto-enable systemd units

2014-04-30 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Andrew Lutomirski l...@mit.edu wrote: spacenavd Right or wrong, the decision for enabling spacenavd by default is that you would only install the package if you have one of these devices. Nothing should be pulling it in so it needs to be explicitly installed

Re: Mass bug: packages should not auto-enable systemd units

2014-04-30 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: spacenavd Right or wrong, the decision for enabling spacenavd by default is that you would only install the package if you have one of these devices. Nothing should be

Re: We want to stop systemd from being added to docker images, because of rpm requiring systemctl.

2014-04-30 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Adam Jackson a...@redhat.com wrote: It is hard to find anything useful by searching for rpm collections. Yeah, they're not well documented yet. Luckily I was able to track down a copy of the rpm source so I could read how it works. In an industry

Re: Mass bug: packages should not auto-enable systemd units

2014-04-30 Thread Richard Shaw
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: spacenavd Right or wrong, the decision for enabling spacenavd by default is that you would only

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: Remote Journal Logging

2014-04-30 Thread Kevin Fenzi
So, this change went to fesco last week, but there were some questions/issues around it. Could change owners respond to: 1) sgallagh wasn't sure this was a self contained change: see: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/1250#comment:19 2) FESCo in general wondered if we advertised this as a

Re: Mass bug: packages should not auto-enable systemd units

2014-04-30 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:06 AM, Richard Shaw hobbes1...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: Hi On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 11:02 AM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: spacenavd Right or

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-05-01 16:00 UTC)

2014-04-30 Thread James Antill
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2014-05-01 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2014-05-01 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PDT 2014-05-01 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EDT 2014-05-01

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

2014-04-30 Thread Dan Williams
On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 13:22 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: On Wed, 30 Apr 2014, Robert Marcano wrote: What about domain and search lines? If NetworkManager will always use 127.0.0.1, it should still modify resolv.conf with the domain name received from DHCP That's actually not always

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

2014-04-30 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 30.04.2014 20:38, schrieb Dan Williams: There's really no guessing what's trusted/not-trusted unless you're using 802.1x/WPA Enterprise, or if the user has told you explicitly to trust this network thank you! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

2014-04-30 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 30 Apr 2014, Dan Williams wrote: Untrusted networks use WPA too, like coffee shops that don't leave the network open, but write the WPA key on the chalkboard menu or print it on standup cards at the tables. I've seen quite a few of these. You are at least consciously logging into

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

2014-04-30 Thread Simo Sorce
On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 12:16 -0430, Robert Marcano wrote: On 04/30/2014 01:17 AM, P J P wrote: On Wednesday, 30 April 2014 3:18 AM, Al Dunsmuir wrote: On my home LAN, I run my own DNSSEC-enabled server using F20 bind 9. This local server also is my DHCP and Samba server. As usual, dynamic

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

2014-04-30 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 30 Apr 2014, Simo Sorce wrote: Why would you care for the domain name as provided by dhcp ? internal DNS views, eg server.internal.corp.com where the search domain gets set to internal.corp.com and server.corp.com does not exist. By default you wouldn't want that as you roam with a

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

2014-04-30 Thread Dan Williams
On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 15:36 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: On Wed, 30 Apr 2014, Simo Sorce wrote: Why would you care for the domain name as provided by dhcp ? internal DNS views, eg server.internal.corp.com where the search domain gets set to internal.corp.com and server.corp.com does not

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

2014-04-30 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Dan Williams d...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 15:36 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: On Wed, 30 Apr 2014, Simo Sorce wrote: Why would you care for the domain name as provided by dhcp ? internal DNS views, eg server.internal.corp.com where the search

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

2014-04-30 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 01:06:51PM -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Dan Williams d...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 15:36 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: On Wed, 30 Apr 2014, Simo Sorce wrote: Why would you care for the domain name as provided by dhcp

Dracut HostOnly two releases later

2014-04-30 Thread Reindl Harald
looks like https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DracutHostOnly over the long has the opposite effect and more and more modules are included in the hostonly-initrd because regressions right and left people who used hostonly before the feature on machines where it is fine where down below 5 MB,

Re: Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-04-24 16:00 UTC)

2014-04-30 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Lennart Poettering wrote: Hmm, we should probably do our homework first from the systemd side, and provide some RPM macros so that packages installing binfmt snippets can actually register/unregister them on package installation/deinstallation correctly. And when that's done we should probably

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

2014-04-30 Thread Dan Williams
On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 16:12 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 01:06:51PM -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 1:02 PM, Dan Williams d...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 15:36 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: On Wed, 30 Apr 2014, Simo Sorce wrote:

Re: F21 System Wide Change: Default Local DNS Resolver

2014-04-30 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 03:55:59PM -0500, Dan Williams wrote: On Wed, 2014-04-30 at 16:12 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote: If I once connected to an open network called MyFavoriteCoffeeShop then later on someone creates a network with the same name but with malicous intent, will NetworkManager

Re: F21 Self Contained Change: The Shogun Machine Learning Toolbox

2014-04-30 Thread Ian Malone
On 30 April 2014 14:10, Jaroslav Reznik jrez...@redhat.com wrote: = Proposed Self Contained Change: The Shogun Machine Learning Toolbox = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/shogun Change owner(s): Björn Esser besse...@fedoraproject.org SHOGUN is a large Scale Machine Learning Toolbox,

Re: We want to stop systemd from being added to docker images, because of rpm requiring systemctl.

2014-04-30 Thread Marcelo Ricardo Leitner
Em 30-04-2014 07:57, Lennart Poettering escreveu: On Tue, 29.04.14 15:36, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner (marcelo.leit...@gmail.com) wrote: Em 29-04-2014 12:27, Lennart Poettering escreveu: On Tue, 29.04.14 10:37, Daniel J Walsh (dwa...@redhat.com) wrote: On 04/29/2014 06:33 AM, Lennart

Re: We want to stop systemd from being added to docker images, because of rpm requiring systemctl.

2014-04-30 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner marcelo.leit...@gmail.com wrote: If that's what you think, okay. I do agree with you that suids all are the worse thing. After all, it's like winning the lottery for hackers and that's probably where they focus most. But still fear

Re: Mass bug: packages should not auto-enable systemd units

2014-04-30 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 09:02:30AM -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: Due to some confusion around how alternatives worked, I screwed up the list of packages here. I've updated it below. I'll give it a few more days before filing the actual bugs. abrt acpid aeolus-audrey-agent

[perl-Try-Tiny] Created tag perl-Try-Tiny-0.22-1.fc21

2014-04-30 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Try-Tiny-0.22-1.fc21' was created pointing to: aacd888... Update to 0.22 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl-devel

[perl-App-cpanminus] Update fatunpack to deal with FatPacker #line

2014-04-30 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 247db4a6d3d5bd732972043316f25d02b65046c0 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Wed Apr 30 08:04:56 2014 +0200 Update fatunpack to deal with FatPacker #line App-cpanminus-1.7004 brings a new syntax: $fatpacked{App/cpanminus.pm} = '#line '.(1+__LINE__).'

[perl-Language-Prolog-Yaswi] Rebuild against pl-6.6.5

2014-04-30 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 6232fdadf59048b3ea8f1a3bcdba94705a4ab60c Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Wed Apr 30 08:35:31 2014 +0200 Rebuild against pl-6.6.5 perl-Language-Prolog-Yaswi.spec |5 - 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-) --- diff --git

File Encode-2.60.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2014-04-30 Thread Petr Pisar
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Encode: 8ed11fafa9e3c9c1e0ee83d1f9d8bfdf Encode-2.60.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Encode] 2.60 bump

2014-04-30 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 6aa4b656ed53a6aaaf64b9c7b2e1e26f0e73b519 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Wed Apr 30 08:56:22 2014 +0200 2.60 bump .gitignore |1 + perl-Encode.spec |5 - sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) --- diff --git

[perl-XML-TreeBuilder] (3 commits) ...new upstream

2014-04-30 Thread Petr Pisar
Summary of changes: 4fd3323... new upstream: (*) c776793... new upstream (*) 7eeb8da... new upstream (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list

File Module-Metadata-1.000022.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by pghmcfc

2014-04-30 Thread Paul Howarth
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Module-Metadata: 48a1abd8565d6e1d6657b568786df008 Module-Metadata-1.22.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Module-Metadata] Update to 1.000022

2014-04-30 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 2cd5b595c4d168e5bf9400d33acab708cdf6cc27 Author: Paul Howarth p...@city-fan.org Date: Wed Apr 30 09:21:24 2014 +0100 Update to 1.22 - New upstream release 1.22 - New is_indexable() object method (CPAN RT#84357) - Eliminated dependency on IO::File (and by

File App-cpanminus-1.7004.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by jplesnik

2014-04-30 Thread Jitka Plesnikova
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-App-cpanminus: 83b0b8353be83b0e9f01e9227aea4e4f App-cpanminus-1.7004.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-App-cpanminus] 1.7004 bump

2014-04-30 Thread Jitka Plesnikova
commit 1e667b666f7d848d20a8f05f8ee5fb0bff356cad Author: Jitka Plesnikova jples...@redhat.com Date: Wed Apr 30 10:34:02 2014 +0200 1.7004 bump .gitignore |1 + perl-App-cpanminus.spec |6 +- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 2

[perl-Module-Metadata] Created tag perl-Module-Metadata-1.000022-1.fc21

2014-04-30 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-Module-Metadata-1.22-1.fc21' was created pointing to: 2cd5b59... Update to 1.22 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Encode-DoubleEncodedUTF8/epel7] Initial import (#1066852).

2014-04-30 Thread David Dick
Summary of changes: 79204dc... Initial import (#1066852). (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Image-SubImageFind/epel7] Initial import (#1077956).

2014-04-30 Thread David Dick
Summary of changes: 38d5a54... Initial import (#1077956). (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-HTTP-Soup/epel7] Initial import (#1064817).

2014-04-30 Thread David Dick
Summary of changes: 73f220b... Initial import (#1064817). (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[pkgdb] perl-NOCpulse-Gritch ownership changed

2014-04-30 Thread Fedora PackageDB
Package perl-NOCpulse-Gritch in Fedora devel is now owned by ppisar To make changes to this package see: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/perl-NOCpulse-Gritch -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list

[pkgdb] perl-NOCpulse-Gritch ownership changed

2014-04-30 Thread Fedora PackageDB
Package perl-NOCpulse-Gritch in Fedora devel was orphaned by ppisar To make changes to this package see: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/perl-NOCpulse-Gritch -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list

[pkgdb] perl-NOCpulse-Gritch (un)retirement

2014-04-30 Thread Fedora PackageDB
Package perl-NOCpulse-Gritch in Fedora devel has been retired by ppisar To make changes to this package see: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/acls/name/perl-NOCpulse-Gritch -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list

[Bug 1092921] New: perl-Perl-Critic make check failing on ppc64le archi

2014-04-30 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1092921 Bug ID: 1092921 Summary: perl-Perl-Critic make check failing on ppc64le archi Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-Perl-Critic Severity: medium Assignee:

[perl-Net-Twitter-Lite/epel7] Initial import (#1074482).

2014-04-30 Thread David Dick
Summary of changes: 3f04fa4... Initial import (#1074482). (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[Bug 1092921] perl-Perl-Critic make check failing on ppc64le archi

2014-04-30 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1092921 --- Comment #1 from Michel Normand norm...@linux.vnet.ibm.com --- I tried to investigate the reported error but with no success as detailed in http://www.mail-archive.com/perl-xs@perl.org/msg02580.html any suggestion are welcome. -- You are

[perl-X11-GUITest/epel7] Initial import (#1074242).

2014-04-30 Thread David Dick
Summary of changes: 94676ac... Initial import (#1074242). (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[Bug 1092921] perl-Perl-Critic make check failing on ppc64le archi

2014-04-30 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1092921 Michel Normand norm...@linux.vnet.ibm.com changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks||1051573

[perl-Net-SMTPS/epel7] Initial import (#1066842).

2014-04-30 Thread David Dick
Summary of changes: a8541a8... Initial import (#1066842). (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Time-Out/epel7] Initial import (#1068842).

2014-04-30 Thread David Dick
Summary of changes: d89d274... Initial import (#1068842). (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-Net-POP3S/epel7] Initial import (#1066843).

2014-04-30 Thread David Dick
Summary of changes: ca5198c... Initial import (#1066843). (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-REST-Client/epel7] Initial import (#1079890).

2014-04-30 Thread David Dick
Summary of changes: f059b63... Initial import (#1079890). (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

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