Re: [EPEL-devel] Proposal for Python 3 packaging in EPEL 7

2014-12-10 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 12/10/2014 03:48 AM, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote: Hi all, I know I've been promising this for quite some time to several people, so I finally managed to put together a proposal for packaging Python 3 in EPEL 7 (it'd also scale to EPEL 6 for that matter). I've created a wiki page [1] with the

Re: [EPEL-devel] Proposal for Python 3 packaging in EPEL 7

2014-12-10 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 10 December 2014 at 03:48, Bohuslav Kabrda bkab...@redhat.com wrote: Hi all, I know I've been promising this for quite some time to several people, so I finally managed to put together a proposal for packaging Python 3 in EPEL 7 (it'd also scale to EPEL 6 for that matter). I've created a

[EPEL-devel] Fedora EPEL 5 updates-testing report

2014-12-10 Thread updates
The following Fedora EPEL 5 Security updates need testing: Age URL 963 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2012-5630/bugzilla-3.2.10-5.el5 417 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2013-11893/libguestfs-1.20.12-1.el5 182

Re: Poll: How users use DNF

2014-12-10 Thread Sudhir Khanger
On Tuesday, December 09, 2014 12:28:54 PM Radek Holy wrote: I would be very grateful if you could send me a brief description of how you use YUM or DNF currently or how would you like to use it. DNF doesn't work with local repositories created via createrepo or yum-plugin- local. It is one of

Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall

2014-12-10 Thread Ian Malone
On 10 December 2014 at 00:43, Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - On 9 December 2014 at 13:47, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 01:11:33PM +, Ian Malone wrote: have a proposal for a new spin focused on privacy and

introducing alternatives into a package

2014-12-10 Thread Jens Petersen
Hi, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Alternatives explains how alternatives should be done in Fedora, however it does not seem to address the case of converting an existing package to use alternatives. Specifically the problem arises when a file is changed to become a %ghost. It seems rpm

Re: Poll: How users use DNF

2014-12-10 Thread Petr Spacek
On 9.12.2014 18:28, Radek Holy wrote: Dear users of YUM and DNF, I'm writing to you regarding a request for your feedback. I would be very grateful if you could send me a brief description of how you use YUM or DNF currently or how would you like to use it. I am particularly interested in

Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall

2014-12-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.12.2014 um 06:08 schrieb Simo Sorce: Most users have no idea what NAT, TCP or ports are sadly yes nor should they! *they should* damned people should stop to evangelize that users do not need to know anything and then design operating systems based on that self-fulfilling prophecy

Re: Review swap -- Budgie Desktop

2014-12-10 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 12/08/2014 05:06 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 11:01:50AM -0500, Bastien Nocera wrote: - Original Message - On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 09:08:09AM -0500, Bastien Nocera wrote: It's a sub-module because it's not a library. I know it does not have a

Re: Poll: How users use DNF

2014-12-10 Thread Petr Spacek
On 10.12.2014 10:14, Petr Spacek wrote: On 9.12.2014 18:28, Radek Holy wrote: Dear users of YUM and DNF, I'm writing to you regarding a request for your feedback. I would be very grateful if you could send me a brief description of how you use YUM or DNF currently or how would you like to

Self Introduction: Vladimir Stackov

2014-12-10 Thread Vladimir Stackov
Greetings, Fedora lovers, I'm glad to introduce myself to you. I'm 15+ years developer/admin with mainly perl-experience (also I write on C#/C/C++/Java) and would to like to make a contribution to Fedora. I'm going to maintain zbackup package for Fedora and EPEL. I'm also one of the zbackup

To the Tiles in Firefox New Tab discussion

2014-12-10 Thread Matěj Cepl
Hi, I just wanted to introduce to the august audience here the blogpost http://blog.mozilla.org/advancingcontent/2014/12/09/getting-tiles-data-into-firefox/ Best, Matěj -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of

Re: Review swap -- Budgie Desktop

2014-12-10 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On 12/10/2014 04:19 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 12/08/2014 05:06 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 11:01:50AM -0500, Bastien Nocera wrote: - Original Message - On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 09:08:09AM -0500, Bastien Nocera wrote: It's a sub-module because

Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall

2014-12-10 Thread Bastien Nocera
- Original Message - On 10 December 2014 at 00:43, Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - On 9 December 2014 at 13:47, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 01:11:33PM +, Ian Malone wrote: have a

Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall

2014-12-10 Thread Bastien Nocera
- Original Message - Am 10.12.2014 um 06:08 schrieb Simo Sorce: Most users have no idea what NAT, TCP or ports are sadly yes nor should they! *they should* damned people should stop to evangelize that users do not need to know anything and then design operating systems

Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall

2014-12-10 Thread Bastien Nocera
- Original Message - Bastien Nocera wrote: For example, RTSP streaming, Rhythmbox remote control for iOS, music sharing via DAAP, DLNA sharing via rygel, but also DLNA client usage (through Videos), and VNC are impacted. This is a non-exhaustive list for the default applications

Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall

2014-12-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.12.2014 um 12:47 schrieb Bastien Nocera: Even if we chose static ports for those (or rather port ranges, because if you have multiple users running, you'd need multiple ports), leaving only those ports opened wouldn't stop other random applications from choosing those ports to do

rawhide report: 20141210 changes

2014-12-10 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
Compose started at Wed Dec 10 05:15:03 UTC 2014 Broken deps for i386 -- [3Depict] 3Depict-0.0.16-3.fc22.i686 requires libmgl.so.7.2.0 [Sprog] Sprog-0.14-27.fc20.noarch requires perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.18.0) [bibletime]

Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Maros Zatko
Hi everyone, I've noticed that other download options besides LIVE images are now gone from the website. Can you please explain how should (normal) user find non-LIVE image links there? I know this has been (probably intentionally) obfuscated before. Please put it back, even as obfuscated as it

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.12.2014 um 13:43 schrieb Maros Zatko: Hi everyone, I've noticed that other download options besides LIVE images are now gone from the website. Can you please explain how should (normal) user find non-LIVE image links there? I know this has been (probably intentionally) obfuscated

Re: Allow internet/network access based on binary -- ask user for permission if a binary wants to connect to the internet

2014-12-10 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Tue, 2014-12-09 at 08:39 -0500, Daniel J Walsh wrote: You can do this with SELinux and confined users somewhat. YOU basically could setup a user as xguest with no network access and then write policy to transition to certain domains that can use the internet. No ability to prompt the

Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall

2014-12-10 Thread Robert Marcano
On 12/10/2014 12:38 AM, Simo Sorce wrote: On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 05:46:32 +0100 Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Pete Travis wrote: Lets say I do have an understanding of network basics, just for the sake of argument. I share my application with you. The application is intended to

Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall

2014-12-10 Thread Robert Marcano
On 12/10/2014 12:01 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Stephen John Smoogen wrote: In the end, this is a tempest in a teapot. The release is out and it is done. The release is out, but there are an expected 13 months of security updates, of which this ought to be the first. and there is a precedent of

Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall

2014-12-10 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 05:57 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: VNC?! You think it's a good idea to allow REMOTE CONTROLLING YOUR DESKTOP by default??? The firewall must not block VNC. VNC is a GNOME feature and it must work if enabled. It's disabled by default, because it'd be stupid to have it

Upgrading cloog to 0.18.1 for {,cross-}{gcc,binutils}

2014-12-10 Thread David Howells
Would there be any problem with upgrading cloog to 0.18.1 so that binutils, gcc, cross-binutils and cross-gcc can use it? Also, should I put isl-0.12.2 into it's own package or should it be added to cloog? Or should I make a gcc-cloog (and gcc-isl)? David -- devel mailing list

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Nikos Roussos
Speaking of F21 downloads, how is that the fedoraproject.org redirects to getfedora.org? Is this something permanent? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of

Is ARM productized?

2014-12-10 Thread Nikos Roussos
Having some hard time to discover the ARM F21 image at the new website. Is the link somewhere and I completely missed it? I found the ARM images directly from the ftp http://alt.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/releases/21/Images/armhfp/ But as a general question is ARM productized? Would it

Re: Upgrading cloog to 0.18.1 for {,cross-}{gcc,binutils}

2014-12-10 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 01:13:54PM +, David Howells wrote: Would there be any problem with upgrading cloog to 0.18.1 so that binutils, gcc, cross-binutils and cross-gcc can use it? Also, should I put isl-0.12.2 into it's own package or should it be added to cloog? Or should I make a

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Maros Zatko
From: Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:54:29 PM Subject: Re: Other download options Am 10.12.2014 um 13:43 schrieb Maros Zatko: Hi everyone, I've noticed that other download options besides LIVE images are

Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall

2014-12-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Bastien Nocera wrote: Even if we chose static ports for those (or rather port ranges, because if you have multiple users running, you'd need multiple ports), leaving only those ports opened wouldn't stop other random applications from choosing those ports to do something nefarious. You're just

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.12.2014 um 14:27 schrieb Maros Zatko: From: Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net Am 10.12.2014 um 13:43 schrieb Maros Zatko: Hi everyone, I've noticed that other download options besides LIVE images are now gone from the website. Can you please explain how should (normal) user find

Re: Upgrading cloog to 0.18.1 for {,cross-}{gcc,binutils}

2014-12-10 Thread David Howells
Jakub Jelinek ja...@redhat.com wrote: What do binutils need cloog/isl for btw? I'm not sure, but in binutils/configure, I see: with_cloog with_isl with_isl_include with_isl_lib enable_isl_version_check with_cloog_include with_cloog_lib

Re: Poll: How users use DNF

2014-12-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Petr Spacek wrote: I would be happy if $ yum reinstall ~/rpmbuild/RPMS/*/* reinstalled/upgradeed/downgraded only packages which are actually installed and ignored the rest. In this case, you should be able to just use rpm -Fvh. (I assume the dependencies are already installed, which is

Re: Upgrading cloog to 0.18.1 for {,cross-}{gcc,binutils}

2014-12-10 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 01:31:45PM +, David Howells wrote: Jakub Jelinek ja...@redhat.com wrote: What do binutils need cloog/isl for btw? I'm not sure, but in binutils/configure, I see: with_cloog with_isl with_isl_include with_isl_lib

Re: Is ARM productized?

2014-12-10 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 15:21 +0200, Nikos Roussos wrote: Having some hard time to discover the ARM F21 image at the new website. Is the link somewhere and I completely missed it? I found the ARM images directly from the ftp

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Maros Zatko
From: Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:29:09 PM Subject: Re: Other download options Am 10.12.2014 um 14:27 schrieb Maros Zatko: From: Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net Am 10.12.2014 um 13:43 schrieb Maros

Re: introducing alternatives into a package

2014-12-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jens Petersen wrote: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Alternatives explains how alternatives should be done in Fedora, however it does not seem to address the case of converting an existing package to use alternatives. The solution to problems with alternatives is usually to just not

Re: introducing alternatives into a package

2014-12-10 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 04:09 -0500, Jens Petersen wrote: Hi, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Alternatives explains how alternatives should be done in Fedora, however it does not seem to address the case of converting an existing package to use alternatives. Specifically the

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread drago01
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Maros Zatko mza...@redhat.com wrote: From: Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:54:29 PM Subject: Re: Other download options Am 10.12.2014 um 13:43 schrieb Maros Zatko: Hi everyone,

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 10.12.2014 v 14:38 Maros Zatko napsal(a): From: Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:29:09 PM Subject: Re: Other download options Am 10.12.2014 um 14:27 schrieb Maros Zatko: From: Reindl Harald

Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall

2014-12-10 Thread Jiri Popelka
On 12/09/2014 07:54 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote: Stephen Gallagher wrote: services: dhcpv6-client dns freeipa-ldap freeipa-ldaps samba-client ssh With the default Workstation policy, does that enumerate all 129022 open unprivileged ports? # firewall-cmd --list-all FedoraWorkstation (active)

Re: Upgrading cloog to 0.18.1 for {,cross-}{gcc,binutils}

2014-12-10 Thread David Howells
Jakub Jelinek ja...@redhat.com wrote: The toplevel configure is shared with gcc. That doesn't mean anything built in binutils actually uses it. Ah, ok. BTW, cloog 0.18.3 has been released 2 days ago, perhaps it is usable with latest 4.8.x/4.9.x. Note GCC 5.x will only need isl and not

Re: Upgrading cloog to 0.18.1 for {,cross-}{gcc,binutils}

2014-12-10 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 01:58:19PM +, David Howells wrote: Jakub Jelinek ja...@redhat.com wrote: The toplevel configure is shared with gcc. That doesn't mean anything built in binutils actually uses it. Ah, ok. BTW, cloog 0.18.3 has been released 2 days ago, perhaps it is usable

Re: Upgrading cloog to 0.18.1 for {,cross-}{gcc,binutils}

2014-12-10 Thread David Howells
Jakub Jelinek ja...@redhat.com wrote: What do binutils need cloog/isl for btw? Hmmm... /usr/lib64/libisl.so.13.1.0-gdb.py /usr/lib64/libisl.so.13.1.0-gdb.pyc /usr/lib64/libisl.so.13.1.0-gdb.pyo David -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Meeting minutes from Env-and-Stacks WG meeting (2014-12-10)

2014-12-10 Thread Honza Horak
#fedora-meeting: Env and Stacks (2014-12-10) Meeting started by hhorak at 12:01:52 UTC. The full logs are available at

Re: Poll: How users use DNF

2014-12-10 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 02:32:35PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Petr Spacek wrote: I would be happy if $ yum reinstall ~/rpmbuild/RPMS/*/* reinstalled/upgradeed/downgraded only packages which are actually installed and ignored the rest. In this case, you should be able to just use rpm

Re: Poll: How users use DNF

2014-12-10 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 12:28:54PM -0500, Radek Holy wrote: Please share with me the use cases, not the description of the install command. Think twice before you share something because I believe it's not as easy as it might seem. As an example I think it might be something like: - I call

Re: Poll: How users use DNF

2014-12-10 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 12/09/2014 05:48 PM, Oron Peled wrote: OK, this isn't a direct DNF/YUM item, but still... I have several workstations/laptops with the same Fedora version (currently 20): * Downloading the same RPM's/DRPM's for each of these hosts is a huge waste. * OTOH, I haven't found a no-brainer

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 6:27 AM, Maros Zatko mza...@redhat.com wrote: Yes, there is netinstall in the Server variant, I suppose it's not the same as Workstation one and (as a user) I'm getting pretty confused now :) I'm getting kind of confused myself. I want to grab an image to throw onto an

Re: Self Introduction: Vladimir Stackov

2014-12-10 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 02:06:25PM +0400, Vladimir Stackov wrote: I'm glad to introduce myself to you. I'm 15+ years developer/admin with mainly perl-experience (also I write on C#/C/C++/Java) and would to like to make a contribution to Fedora. I'm going to maintain zbackup package for Fedora

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 09:52 -0700, Jerry James wrote: Workstation isn't suitable; they aren't developers (yet). Server and Cloud are definitely right out. I don't want a Live CD; I want to actually install. (In the past, installing from a Live CD left one with different defaults than an

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 09:52:05 -0700 Jerry James loganje...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 6:27 AM, Maros Zatko mza...@redhat.com wrote: Yes, there is netinstall in the Server variant, I suppose it's not the same as Workstation one and (as a user) I'm getting pretty confused now

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Mike Pinkerton
On 10 Dec 2014, at 11:52, Jerry James wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 6:27 AM, Maros Zatko mza...@redhat.com wrote: Yes, there is netinstall in the Server variant, I suppose it's not the same as Workstation one and (as a user) I'm getting pretty confused now :) I'm getting kind of

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Ben Cotton
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Mike Pinkerton pseli...@mindspring.com wrote: I also am trying to figure out how I can use Fedora going forward to support general desktop requirements for SMB office workers, creative types and others who have heretofore been using Fedora as a general, secure

Re: Poll: How users use DNF

2014-12-10 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
I found your email a bit confusing, so hopefully this is what you are after: (1) virt-builder --install is implemented using 'yum install' (2) virt-customize --install is implemented using 'yum install' For (1) and (2) I intend to replace yum with dnf when the guest version is Fedora = 22 (or

Re: Poll: How users use DNF

2014-12-10 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 06:04:00AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Przemek Klosowski wrote: I have mixed feelings for the typo correction/suggestions for arguments providing package names: I am glad they are case-insensitive because case conventions in package names are all over the place. On

Re: Poll: How users use DNF

2014-12-10 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 05:56:43PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: I found your email a bit confusing, so hopefully this is what you are after: (1) virt-builder --install is implemented using 'yum install' (2) virt-customize --install is implemented using 'yum install' More precisely

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Mike Pinkerton
On 10 Dec 2014, at 12:52, Ben Cotton wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Mike Pinkerton pseli...@mindspring.com wrote: I also am trying to figure out how I can use Fedora going forward to support general desktop requirements for SMB office workers, creative types and others who have

Re: Self Introduction: Vladimir Stackov

2014-12-10 Thread Vladimir Stackov
Thank you! Yes, it will be implemented till v1.7-1.8. 2014-12-10 20:10 GMT+03:00 Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org: On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 02:06:25PM +0400, Vladimir Stackov wrote: I'm glad to introduce myself to you. I'm 15+ years developer/admin with mainly perl-experience (also I

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 13:19 -0500, Mike Pinkerton wrote: Primarily the uncertainty of what changes the Workstation WG has made, coupled with Matthew Miller's comments that: Right now, 'desktop system with a security focus for new users' isn't a key part of that effort. ... So, if you're

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Pete Travis
On Dec 10, 2014 10:47 AM, Mike Pinkerton pseli...@mindspring.com wrote: On 10 Dec 2014, at 11:52, Jerry James wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 6:27 AM, Maros Zatko mza...@redhat.com wrote: Yes, there is netinstall in the Server variant, I suppose it's not the same as Workstation one and (as

[perl-Catalyst-Plugin-SubRequest] Apply patch by the Debian maintainer to make this package's tests run with Catalyst 5.90006x (brc #1

2014-12-10 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
commit 13182c18a8ce46b62617213ae1c8b3b44ffedcb2 Author: Emmanuel Seyman emman...@seyman.fr Date: Wed Dec 10 20:03:17 2014 +0100 Apply patch by the Debian maintainer to make this package's tests run with Catalyst 5.90006x (brc #1172196, rco #94392). perl-Catalyst-Plugin-SubRequest.spec |

fedup speed

2014-12-10 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Hi, I run fedup on a beefy desktop machine (SSD 450MB/s, 24GB ram, 12 cores), and started wondering why is takes so much time (1.5h or thereabouts for ~4500 packages). I noticed two things: 1. installing packages used just 1 core, and actually not even not at 100%, and about 15MB/s were

Reminder: Fedora 19 end of life on 2015-01-06

2014-12-10 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings. This is a reminder email about the end of life process for Fedora 19. Fedora 19 will reach end of life on 2015-01-06, and no further updates will be pushed out after that time. Additionally, with the recent release of Fedora 21, no new

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 12:47:20PM -0500, Mike Pinkerton wrote: As best I can tell from Matthew Miller's responses there, Fedora has abandoned that portion of its previous user base that was using Fedora as a general, secure by default, Gnome desktop OS. That's _very much_ not what I

Re: Poll: How users use DNF

2014-12-10 Thread Igor Gnatenko
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 9:05 PM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 05:56:43PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: I found your email a bit confusing, so hopefully this is what you are after: (1) virt-builder --install is implemented using 'yum install' (2)

Re: fedup speed

2014-12-10 Thread Josh Stone
On 12/10/2014 11:18 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: 2. at the end, fedup creates a log by running 'journalctl -a -m', which is --all --merge. This seems a bit excessive. On this machine I have 4.5 GB of logs from this machine, plus a few GB more from other sources. journalctl

Re: Reminder: Fedora 19 end of life on 2015-01-06

2014-12-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings. This is a reminder email about the end of life process for Fedora 19. Fedora 19 will reach end of life on 2015-01-06, and no further updates will be pushed out

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Ben Cotton
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Mike Pinkerton pseli...@mindspring.com wrote: Primarily the uncertainty of what changes the Workstation WG has made, coupled with Matthew Miller's comments that: deletia I also don't know whether Workstation updates will pull in other similarly bad ideas in

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-12-11 17:00 UTC)

2014-12-10 Thread James Antill
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2014-12-11 17:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Local time information (via. rktime): 2014-12-11 09:00 Thu US/Pacific PST 2014-12-11 12:00 Thu US/Eastern EST 2014-12-11

Re: Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2014-12-11 17:00 UTC)

2014-12-10 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 03:09:08PM -0500, James Antill wrote: Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2014-12-11 17:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.freenode.net. Can https://fedorahosted.org/fpc/ticket/476 be added? Zbyszek -- devel mailing

Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall

2014-12-10 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 9 December 2014 at 21:31, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote: Stephen John Smoogen wrote: In the end, this is a tempest in a teapot. The release is out and it is done. The release is out, but there are an expected 13 months of security updates, of which this ought to be the

Re: Schedule for Wednesday's FESCo Meeting (2014-12-10)

2014-12-10 Thread Tomas Hozza
On 12/09/2014 07:22 PM, Tomas Hozza wrote: Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting Wednesday at 18:00UTC in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UTCHowto or run: date -d

Re: Reminder: Fedora 19 end of life on 2015-01-06

2014-12-10 Thread Dennis Gilmore
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 15:18:52 -0500 Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Greetings. This is a reminder email

fedup FC20 - FC21 update conflicts

2014-12-10 Thread Przemek Klosowski
I have a fairly standard FC20 setup which I started upgrading by fedup --network 21 --product=workstation There were 109 packages for which there was no upgrade; 62 are *-debuginfo, 12 are from various oddball repos (adobe, simulavr, etc), but 36 are I believe regular Fedora Core 20

Re: fedup FC20 - FC21 update conflicts

2014-12-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/10/2014 01:36 PM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: I imagine there will be fc21 packages for those eventually, so should I file a bugzilla report on it, or go ahead with the install and wait for the new versions? If reporting, would it be against fedup or specific packages? Try adding

Re: Poll: How users use DNF

2014-12-10 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
W dniu 10.12.2014 o 01:48, Oron Peled pisze: I have several workstations/laptops with the same Fedora version (currently 20): * Downloading the same RPM's/DRPM's for each of these hosts is a huge waste. I am using web proxy on Synology NAS at home and all my Fedora machines use it for

Re: Poll: How users use DNF

2014-12-10 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/10/2014 02:09 PM, Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote: I am using web proxy on Synology NAS at home and all my Fedora machines use it for dnf/yum fetching. With on-disk cache set to 10GB it makes all system upgrades and mock builds very fast. How does the proxy work with the various mirrors? Do you

Re: Reminder: Fedora 19 end of life on 2015-01-06

2014-12-10 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 15:18:52 -0500 Josh Boyer jwbo...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Dennis Gilmore den...@ausil.us wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED

Re: Workstation Product defaults to wide-open firewall

2014-12-10 Thread Ian Malone
On 10 December 2014 at 11:47, Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - On 10 December 2014 at 00:43, Bastien Nocera bnoc...@redhat.com wrote: - Original Message - On 9 December 2014 at 13:47, Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On

Re: fedup speed

2014-12-10 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Josh Stone writes: On 12/10/2014 11:18 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: 2. at the end, fedup creates a log by running 'journalctl -a -m', which is --all --merge. This seems a bit excessive. On this machine I have 4.5 GB of logs from this machine, plus a few GB more from other

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Felix Miata
Reindl Harald composed on 2014-12-10 13:54 (UTC+0100): Maros Zatko composed: I've noticed that other download options besides LIVE images are now gone from the website. Can you please explain how should (normal) user find non-LIVE image links there? I know this has been (probably

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Felix Miata
Michael Catanzaro composed on 2014-12-10 18:37 (UTC+0100): On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 09:52 -0700, Jerry James wrote: I guess I could go with one of the spins, but I don't see a GNOME spin anywhere. Is there really no DVD image for a generic GNOME desktop install? This would be redundant with

Selinux and pbuilder

2014-12-10 Thread Sandro Mani
Hi, Before digging around more, though I'd check here if some debian+selinux experienced person has any ideas... I'm encountering two kinds of failure when using pbuilder which seem selinux related: - When building packages for newer releases (i.e. Ubuntu = trusty), pbuilder used to fail

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.12.2014 um 00:58 schrieb Felix Miata: Reindl Harald composed on 2014-12-10 13:54 (UTC+0100): Maros Zatko composed: I've noticed that other download options besides LIVE images are now gone from the website. Can you please explain how should (normal) user find non-LIVE image links

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Reindl Harald
uhm - wrong screenshot in previous message :-( Am 11.12.2014 um 01:06 schrieb Reindl Harald: Am 11.12.2014 um 00:58 schrieb Felix Miata: Reindl Harald composed on 2014-12-10 13:54 (UTC+0100): Maros Zatko composed: I've noticed that other download options besides LIVE images are now gone

Re: Selinux and pbuilder

2014-12-10 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 4:03 PM, Sandro Mani manisan...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Before digging around more, though I'd check here if some debian+selinux experienced person has any ideas... I'm encountering two kinds of failure when using pbuilder which seem selinux related: - When building

Re: fedup speed

2014-12-10 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 06:51:51PM -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Josh Stone writes: On 12/10/2014 11:18 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: 2. at the end, fedup creates a log by running 'journalctl -a -m', which is --all --merge. This seems a bit excessive. On this machine I

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Felix Miata
[ re: https://getfedora.org/ ] Reindl Harald composed on 2014-12-11 01:06 (UTC+0100): Felix Miata composed: Actions speak louder than words. The need to zoom 3X-6X to reach legible a legible state belies polished, easy to use. no need to zoom anything and as said my eyes are really not

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
Sorry to cut in, but whom can I contact about localization issues with the getfedora.org website? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: fedup speed

2014-12-10 Thread drago01
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 4:37 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 06:51:51PM -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Josh Stone writes: On 12/10/2014 11:18 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: 2. at the end, fedup creates a log by running 'journalctl -a

[perl-Archive-Tar] Remove unneeded dependencies

2014-12-10 Thread Petr Pisar
commit d1cc558f9e53f0e41f62190d4fd0cb7008ae71c0 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Wed Dec 10 12:52:23 2014 +0100 Remove unneeded dependencies perl-Archive-Tar.spec | 58 +++- 1 files changed, 42 insertions(+), 16 deletions(-) --- diff

[perl-Archive-Tar] Remove annoying sleep after warnings in the build script

2014-12-10 Thread Petr Pisar
commit d3e429cf2d420eba7ab51aca76a42b351ffdc8bc Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Wed Dec 10 13:14:43 2014 +0100 Remove annoying sleep after warnings in the build script Archive-Tar-2.02-Do-not-sleep-in-Makefile.PL.patch | 28 perl-Archive-Tar.spec

File DBIx-Class-EncodedColumn-0.00013.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by psabata

2014-12-10 Thread Petr Šabata
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-DBIx-Class-EncodedColumn: 6c3bb0ee68be15ae26ce53cd60b5bbd9 DBIx-Class-EncodedColumn-0.00013.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

[perl-DBIx-Class-EncodedColumn] 0.00013 bump

2014-12-10 Thread Petr Šabata
commit 7f6cb6f12ad20adb062f9ef98ce416afa9708a3f Author: Petr Šabata con...@redhat.com Date: Wed Dec 10 13:19:21 2014 +0100 0.00013 bump .gitignore |1 + perl-DBIx-Class-EncodedColumn.spec | 65 +++- sources

[perl] Synchronize dependencies with perl-Archive-Tar

2014-12-10 Thread Petr Pisar
commit 232540c99205aacd483c1b9acdea207fcfc10c20 Author: Petr Písař ppi...@redhat.com Date: Wed Dec 10 13:21:51 2014 +0100 Synchronize dependencies with perl-Archive-Tar perl.spec | 12 ++-- 1 files changed, 10 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) --- diff --git a/perl.spec b/perl.spec

[Bug 1163222] perl-DBIx-Class-EncodedColumn-0.00013 is available

2014-12-10 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1163222 Petr Šabata psab...@redhat.com changed: What|Removed |Added Status|ASSIGNED|CLOSED Fixed In

[Bug 1172617] New: perl-App-cpanminus-1.7020 is available

2014-12-10 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1172617 Bug ID: 1172617 Summary: perl-App-cpanminus-1.7020 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-App-cpanminus Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged Assignee:

[Bug 1172620] New: perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-2.00 is available

2014-12-10 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1172620 Bug ID: 1172620 Summary: perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases-2.00 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-CPAN-Perl-Releases Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged

[Bug 1172621] New: perl-DBD-MySQL-4.029 is available

2014-12-10 Thread bugzilla
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1172621 Bug ID: 1172621 Summary: perl-DBD-MySQL-4.029 is available Product: Fedora Version: rawhide Component: perl-DBD-MySQL Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged Assignee:

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