Adding gtk+ maintainer. Paul, would you mind commenting about this issue?
On 11/09/2017 01:07 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
>> libkprint, kde-print-manager, etc. may have dependencies that make
>> the mix impossible. I don't know for sure, thoug
On 11/08/2017 09:43 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Zdenek Dohnal wrote:
>> AFAIK such projects are gutenprint, cups-filters or hplip... does anyone
>> have in mind other projects, which will be unable to use CUPS and reason?
>>
> libkprint, kde-print-manager, etc. may have
Missing expected images:
Docker_base docker x86_64
Server dvd arm
Failed openQA tests: 23/94 (x86_64), 4/19 (i386)
New failures (same test did not fail in 27-20171108.n.2):
ID: 167539 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_cockpit_basic
URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/167539
ID
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC
meeting Thursday at 2017-11-09 17:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on
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= Day: Thursday ==
2017-11-09 09:00 PST US/Pacific
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On 2017-11-08 11:08, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote:
> since there has been some discussion in the last time about removing
> libcrypt from glibc in some time [1,2,3,4] and splitting it out into a
> separate project which can evolve quicker, I'd like to hear your
> oppinion about replacing glibc's li
Dear all,
You are kindly invited to the meeting:
Fedora Modular Server 27 Beta Release Go/No-Go - 5th round on 2017-11-09
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The meeting will be about:
Before each public release Development, QA and Release Engineering
Dear all,
You are kindly invited to the meeting:
Final release Go/No-Go Meeting on 2017-11-09 from 13:00:00 to 15:00:00
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The meeting will be about:
Before each public release Development, QA and Release Engineering meet to
determine if the release criteria are met for a particu
On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:43 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
libkprint, kde-print-manager, etc. may have dependencies that make
the mix impossible. I don't know for sure, though.
GTK+
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On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:27 PM Igor Gnatenko <
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> On Wed, 2017-11-08 at 18:58 +, Christopher wrote:
> > Hi, I've been reading a lot lately about Fedora modularity, and I'm
> > still a
> > bit confused on some points.
> >
> > Is it necessary for maintaine
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On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 09:16:23PM +0100, Zdenek Dohnal wrote:
> AFAIK such projects are gutenprint, cups-filters or hplip... does anyone
> have in mind other projects, which will be unable to use CUPS and reason?
Gutenprint today is okay, as only its CUPS filters/backend link against
CUPS and it
On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 07:51:00PM +, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:45 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>
> > On 11/08/2017 07:13 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > > On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 10:03:30AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > >> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Zbigniew
On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 3:16 PM, Zdenek Dohnal wrote:
>
> AFAIK such projects are gutenprint, cups-filters or hplip... does anyone
> have in mind other projects, which will be unable to use CUPS and reason?
>
libkprint, kde-print-manager, etc. may have dependencies that make the
mix impossible. I
Here is reply from CUPS mailing list:
On 11/08/2017 08:58 PM, Michael Sweet wrote:
> Zdenek,
>
>> On Nov 8, 2017, at 11:11 AM, Zdenek Dohnal wrote:
>> ...
>> would you mind considering dual license - Apache License 2.0 and GPLv2+?
>> Because "OS-supplied library" definition is relative and it cou
On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:45 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On 11/08/2017 07:13 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 10:03:30AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
> >> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> >> wrote:
> >>> We have such special protections for t
On 11/08/2017 07:13 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 10:03:30AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
>> wrote:
>>> We have such special protections for the kernel (signing), firefox
>>> (trademarks),
>>> and for bo
On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 7:18 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
> On 8 November 2017 at 13:50, Peter Robinson wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
>> wrote:
>>> On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 05:58:13PM +, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 10:53 AM Zb
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On 8 November 2017 at 13:50, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 05:58:13PM +, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 10:53 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <
>>> zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote:
>>>
>>> >
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On Wed, 2017-11-08 at 18:58 +, Christopher wrote:
> Hi, I've been reading a lot lately about Fedora modularity, and I'm
> still a
> bit confused on some points.
>
> Is it necessary for maintainers to create modules for their RPM
> packages?
Yes.
Hi, I've been reading a lot lately about Fedora modularity, and I'm still a
bit confused on some points.
Is it necessary for maintainers to create modules for their RPM packages?
Is modularity something that a maintainer for an RPM package must deal with?
What kinds of new issues must an RPM maint
On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 6:47 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 05:58:13PM +, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 10:53 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <
>> zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote:
>>
>> > On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 03:23:37PM +, Peter Robinson wro
On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 05:58:13PM +, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 10:53 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <
> zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 03:23:37PM +, Peter Robinson wrote:
> > > On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> >
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On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 10:53 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <
zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 03:23:37PM +, Peter Robinson wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> > wrote:
> > > But why? _Any_ package can completely screw up the system with
On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 05:06:11PM +, Petr Pisar wrote:
> I hope Fedora's time-1.8 won't disrupt your scripts so blatantly.
Let's land this in F28 (rawhide) and not update in F27. And make sure
it gets in the release notes.
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Hello everyone,
since there has been some discussion in the last time about removing
libcrypt from glibc in some time [1,2,3,4] and splitting it out into a
separate project which can evolve quicker, I'd like to hear your
oppinion about replacing glibc's libcrypt with libxcrypt [5] for Fedora
29 (o
After many years a new 1.8 version of "time" tool was released. This
version brings some noticable changes:
(1) License changed from (GPLv2+) to (GPLv3+ and GFDL).
(2) Additional exit codes are used to report meassured command failures
and failures to execute the command.
(3) A meassured command
Once upon a time, Randy Barlow said:
> #topic #1788 Default path for root is inconsistent between su - and sudo
> .fesco 1788
> https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/1788
Since the proposal included "discuss on the mailing list" - I'll throw
in my two cents...
I think su and sudo should be consistent wi
The following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the
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On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 02:03:37PM +0100, Ondrej Kozina wrote:
> Pushed new cryptsetup update in rawhide: cryptsetup-2.0.0-0.3.fc28.
> Please rebuild related packages above.
>
> The new build includes old soname so that systemd and others may
> rebuild safely against new library. The old soname wi
On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 03:23:37PM +, Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 02:05:12PM +, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> >> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 8:43 AM Peter Robinson wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 a
I'll try to convince Mike to make a dual license.
On 11/08/2017 04:34 PM, Solomon Peachy wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 03:25:22PM +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
>> Well that page only refers to OpenSSL and even then it points out that other
>> distros have differing opinions. Personally I th
On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 03:25:22PM +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> Well that page only refers to OpenSSL and even then it points out that other
> distros have differing opinions. Personally I think it is dubious even for
> OpenSSL, and if you start broadening it further to claim it applies to wh
On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 04:17:20PM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 08-11-17 16:06, Solomon Peachy wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 03:53:32PM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
> > > >I don't think static linking against libcups is common enough to be a
> > > >serious concern - CUPS is
On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 02:05:12PM +, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 8:43 AM Peter Robinson wrote:
>>
>> > On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
>> > wrote:
>> > > I propose simplif
Hi,
On 08-11-17 16:06, Solomon Peachy wrote:
On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 03:53:32PM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
I don't think static linking against libcups is common enough to be a
serious concern - CUPS is fairly ubiquitous and easily falls under the
"OS-supplied library" exception in th
On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 10:03:30AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
> > We have such special protections for the kernel (signing), firefox
> > (trademarks),
> > and for bootloaders (signing again), and some packages which don't consid
On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Michael Catanzaro
wrote:
>
> I have many questions here.
>
> Isn't this going to require relicensing a humongous number of applications?
> We can't plausibly relicense so much. We would have to remove printing
> support from GTK+, which is not going to happen.
>
> T
On 08.11.2017 15:53, Hans de Goede wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 08-11-17 15:06, Solomon Peachy wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 08:54:03AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
>>> Is there anyone who could raise concerns to Apple about the license
>>> change? Maybe convince them to dual-license it or something?
>>
>>
On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 03:53:32PM +0100, Hans de Goede wrote:
> > I don't think static linking against libcups is common enough to be a
> > serious concern - CUPS is fairly ubiquitous and easily falls under the
> > "OS-supplied library" exception in the GPL 2. And existing GPL-2-only
> >
On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:56 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
> We have such special protections for the kernel (signing), firefox
> (trademarks),
> and for bootloaders (signing again), and some packages which don't consider
> the fedora repo the canonical location for sources.
>
Hold the p
On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 02:05:12PM +, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 8:43 AM Peter Robinson wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> > wrote:
> > > I propose simplifying this and opening fedora-release releases to more
> > > contributors:
I have many questions here.
Isn't this going to require relicensing a humongous number of
applications? We can't plausibly relicense so much. We would have to
remove printing support from GTK+, which is not going to happen.
The system library exception might work for Fedora, but it would be
Hi,
On 08-11-17 15:06, Solomon Peachy wrote:
On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 08:54:03AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
Is there anyone who could raise concerns to Apple about the license
change? Maybe convince them to dual-license it or something?
Well, Michael Sweet (mswet AT apple.com) remains the primar
On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 08:51:22AM -0500, Solomon Peachy wrote:
> The gutenprint CUPS filters in my dev tree dynamically pull in 41 shared
> libraries, mostly as passthroughs. I'm auditing them now.
FWIW, everything that gutenprint links against, and everything they pull
in, appears to be compa
Missing expected images:
Server dvd i386
Workstation live i386
Server boot i386
Kde live i386
Failed openQA tests: 23/128 (x86_64), 1/2 (arm)
New failures (same test did not fail in Rawhide-20171106.n.0):
ID: 167184 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso server_role_deploy_domain_controller
URL: http
On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 8:43 AM Peter Robinson wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
>> wrote:
>> > I propose simplifying this and opening fedora-release releases to more
>> > contributors:
>> >
>> >
On 11/07/2017 06:32 PM, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> Yesterday we removed following Provides/Obsoletes from coreutils.
> - fileutils
> - sh-utils
> - stat
> - textutils
> - mktemp
>
> First four never been separate packages (at least from what I can see
> in dist-git), last one disappeared in fc10...
T
On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 08:54:03AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
> Is there anyone who could raise concerns to Apple about the license
> change? Maybe convince them to dual-license it or something?
Well, Michael Sweet (mswet AT apple.com) remains the primary developer
of CUPS, and this has been raised
On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 8:43 AM Peter Robinson wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
> > I propose simplifying this and opening fedora-release releases to more
> > contributors:
> >
> > 1. Let's drop "upstream" at https://pagure.io/fedora-release and
> >
On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 8:51 AM, Solomon Peachy wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 01:38:31PM +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
>> > OTOH, Gutenprint is GPLv2+, so it could be considered GPLv3 for purposes
>> > of linking to ASL2.0 CUPS..
>>
>> Just make sure that Gutenprint doesn't link to any other
On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 01:38:31PM +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> > OTOH, Gutenprint is GPLv2+, so it could be considered GPLv3 for purposes
> > of linking to ASL2.0 CUPS..
>
> Just make sure that Gutenprint doesn't link to any other 3rd party
> libs that are GPLv2-only - everything it links
On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
> Hi fedora-release maintainers and fellow developers,
>
> The fedora-release package contains stuff that is tied to each Fedora
> version and changes slowly, and it also contains the preset files for
> systemd units, which change
On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 08:32:50AM -0500, Solomon Peachy wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 07:45:28AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > It will. Previously, it was licensed under GPLv2 + LGPLv2 with Apple
> > exceptions. Now it is ASL 2.0 across the board. GPLv2 projects can not
> > link to the newer ver
On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 07:45:28AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote:
> It will. Previously, it was licensed under GPLv2 + LGPLv2 with Apple
> exceptions. Now it is ASL 2.0 across the board. GPLv2 projects can not
> link to the newer version.
That will seriously affect Gutenprint if applied strictly.
OTOH,
Hi fedora-release maintainers and fellow developers,
The fedora-release package contains stuff that is tied to each Fedora
version and changes slowly, and it also contains the preset files for
systemd units, which change fairly often (a few requests per month).
Currently fedora-release has a fair
On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 7:39 AM, Felipe Borges wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Zdenek Dohnal wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> CUPS upstream changed license of project to Apache license 2.0, which is
>>> now incompatible with GPLv2. This change
On 11/07/2017 06:59 PM, Ondrej Kozina wrote:
On 11/07/2017 05:51 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Tue, Nov 07, 2017 at 04:47:51PM +0100, Ondrej Kozina wrote:
On 10/30/2017 04:58 PM, Ondrej Kozina wrote:
clevis-udisks2-0:6-3.fc27.x86_64
libblockdev-crypto-0:2.13-1.fc28.x86_64
libluksmeta-0:8-1
On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 7:39 AM, Felipe Borges wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Zdenek Dohnal wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> CUPS upstream changed license of project to Apache license 2.0, which is
>> now incompatible with GPLv2. This change will be in new minor release of
>> CUPS - 2.3.0, which is
On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Zdenek Dohnal wrote:
> Hi,
>
> CUPS upstream changed license of project to Apache license 2.0, which is
> now incompatible with GPLv2. This change will be in new minor release of
> CUPS - 2.3.0, which is currently in developing phase (not in Fedora for
> now). If s
pl package in version 7.6.1 that is being built for Fedora >= 28 changed
license from:
(BSD and (GPLv2+ with exceptions or Artistic 2.0)) and (GPL+ or Artistic)
and (BSD or GPL) and LGPLv2+ and TCL and UCD and MIT and BSD
and Public Domain
to:
(BSD and (GPLv2+ with exceptions or Art
On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 11:03:41AM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1510869
>
> ocaml-num used to be a part of the OCaml compiler up to 4.05.0.
> It has now been spun out into a separate package.
>
> It's marked as "legacy", but some important Fedo
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1510877
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On 8 November 2017 at 09:42, Zdenek Dohnal wrote:
> CUPS upstream changed license of project to Apache license 2.0, which is
> now incompatible with GPLv2. This change will be in new minor release of
> CUPS - 2.3.0, which is currently in developing phase (not in Fedora for
> now). If someone take
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1510869
ocaml-num used to be a part of the OCaml compiler up to 4.05.0.
It has now been spun out into a separate package.
It's marked as "legacy", but some important Fedora packages depend on
it, notably Coq.
Rich.
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Hi,
CUPS upstream changed license of project to Apache license 2.0, which is
now incompatible with GPLv2. This change will be in new minor release of
CUPS - 2.3.0, which is currently in developing phase (not in Fedora for
now). If someone takes code of CUPS and has its project under GPLv2,
please
On 2017-11-08, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> On Tue, 2017-11-07 at 23:58 +, Sérgio Basto wrote:
>> Script of startup of Azureus use mktemp
>>
>> cat /usr/bin/azureus | grep mktemp
>>
>> TMP_SCRIPT=$(mktemp)
>>
>> mktemp will be disappeared or will be replaced ?
> It is only about removin
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