# Fedora Quality Assurance Meeting
# Date: 2018-04-02
# Time: 15:00 UTC
(https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/UTCHowto)
# Location: #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net
Greetings testers!
We didn't meet for the last few weeks due to Beta work, so let's get
together and check in on where
# F28 Blocker Review meeting
# Date: 2018-04-02
# Time: 16:00 UTC
# Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.freenode.net
Hi folks! We have 3 proposed blockers and 4 proposed freeze exception
issues for Final to review, so let's have a review meeting on Monday.
If you have time this weekend, you
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 6:16 PM, Adam Williamson
wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-03-29 at 17:29 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> Short version:
>> I suggest setting the Live ISO size limit to 4GB (3.7GiB), and
>> including whatever fonts the g11n folks think a global operating
>>
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1562274
Bug ID: 1562274
Summary: perl-Unicode-LineBreak-2018.003 is available
Product: Fedora
Version: rawhide
Component: perl-Unicode-LineBreak
Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
On Thu, 2018-03-29 at 17:29 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> Short version:
> I suggest setting the Live ISO size limit to 4GB (3.7GiB), and
> including whatever fonts the g11n folks think a global operating
> system should have. Alternatively, have Latin and Global Live media
> but I think the
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1562268
Bug ID: 1562268
Summary: perl-IPC-Run-0.98 is available
Product: Fedora
Version: rawhide
Component: perl-IPC-Run
Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
Assignee:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1562267
Bug ID: 1562267
Summary: perl-Git-Wrapper-0.048 is available
Product: Fedora
Version: rawhide
Component: perl-Git-Wrapper
Keywords: FutureFeature, Triaged
Assignee:
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 5:29 PM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> Short version:
> I suggest setting the Live ISO size limit to 4GB (3.7GiB), and
> including whatever fonts the g11n folks think a global operating
> system should have. Alternatively, have Latin and Global Live media
Short version:
I suggest setting the Live ISO size limit to 4GB (3.7GiB), and
including whatever fonts the g11n folks think a global operating
system should have. Alternatively, have Latin and Global Live media
but I think the download savings having two separate media is probably
outweighed by
On Thu, 2018-03-29 at 22:37 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> > AIUI, this means it really only works for simplified Chinese users
> > (which means, approximately, mainland China; other Chinese-speaking
> > territories tend to use traditional Chinese).
>
> AIUI, WQY MicroHei
On 03/29/2018 04:45 PM, Florian Weimer wrote:
> On 03/29/2018 10:25 PM, Mark Reynolds wrote:
>> We can not back out the atomic work
>> because it's needed to address several issues in our server.
First of all, I updated the request wiki page to answer some of John's
questions.
>
> One thing
On 03/29/2018 10:25 PM, Mark Reynolds wrote:
We can not back out the atomic work
because it's needed to address several issues in our server.
One thing that's still not clear to me: What happens on 32-bit
architectures which do not have 64-bit atomics? Are they buggy in a
different way, and
Adam Williamson wrote:
> AIUI, this means it really only works for simplified Chinese users
> (which means, approximately, mainland China; other Chinese-speaking
> territories tend to use traditional Chinese).
AIUI, WQY MicroHei actually tries to cover the traditional-only,
Japanese-only or
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>
> I think the correct thing todo is to retire bugzilla for el6 and el7 what do
> you think about ?
Bugzilla was never in el7
On 03/28/2018 12:29 AM, John Reiser wrote:
> On 03/27/2018 14:17 UTC, Jan Kurik wrote:
>> = Proposed Self Contained Change: Stop building 389-ds-base on i686 =
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/389-ds-base-remove-686
>>
>>
>> Owner(s):
>> * Mark Reynolds
>>
>>
>> 389-ds-base does not
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> A while back, the RPMFusion guys asked me to build a package for current
> Bugzilla for EPEL7. I couldn't do it without
On 29 March 2018 at 14:43, Rex Dieter wrote:
> Sérgio Basto wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2018-03-27 at 13:46 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
>>> Sérgio Basto wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Tue, 2018-03-27 at 11:53 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
>>> > > Sérgio Basto wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > On Mon,
Sérgio Basto wrote:
> On Tue, 2018-03-27 at 13:46 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
>> Sérgio Basto wrote:
>>
>> > On Tue, 2018-03-27 at 11:53 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
>> > > Sérgio Basto wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > On Mon, 2018-03-26 at 15:33 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
>> > > > > Sérgio Basto wrote:
>> > > >
On Thu, 2018-03-29 at 17:35 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 07:18:32PM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote:
> > The Fedora 28 Beta RC3 compose [1] is considered as GOLD and is going to be
> > shipped live on Tuesday, April 3rd, 2018.
> >
> > For more information please
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On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 07:18:32PM +0200, Jan Kurik wrote:
> The Fedora 28 Beta RC3 compose [1] is considered as GOLD and is going to be
> shipped live on Tuesday, April 3rd, 2018.
>
> For more information please check the Go/No-Go meeting minutes [2] or logs
> [3].
>
> I would like to thank all
The Fedora 28 Beta RC3 compose [1] is considered as GOLD and is going to be
shipped live on Tuesday, April 3rd, 2018.
For more information please check the Go/No-Go meeting minutes [2] or logs
[3].
I would like to thank all the people who were and are still working on this
release.
[1]
On 03/28/2018 02:21 PM, Michael Thomas wrote:
> On 3/28/18 1:17 PM, Artur Iwicki wrote:
>> I took a look at "SIG/Games/Packaging" page [1] on the Fedora wiki, and it
>> seems to be quite old - the revision history says the last edit was made in
>> May 2008, which places it at close to 10 years
The Fedora 28 Beta RC3 compose [1] is considered as GOLD and is going to be
shipped live on Tuesday, April 3rd, 2018.
For more information please check the Go/No-Go meeting minutes [2] or logs
[3].
I would like to thank all the people who were and are still working on this
release.
[1]
On 29 March 2018 at 07:00, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> March 29, 2018 12:06 PM, "Peter Robinson" wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 29 Mar 2018, 16:24 Florian Weimer, wrote:
>>
>>> On 03/28/2018 08:48 PM, Tomasz Torcz ️ wrote:
>>>
> Note that
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Age URL
1116 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2015-1087
dokuwiki-0-0.24.20140929c.el7
879 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2015-dac7ed832f
mcollective-2.8.4-1.el7
461
The following Fedora EPEL 6 Security updates need testing:
Age URL
989 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2015-7168
rubygem-crack-0.3.2-2.el6
879 https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-EPEL-2015-e2b4b5b2fb
mcollective-2.8.4-1.el6
850
It sounds like what we are doing is shipping the "regional subset" fonts
for all 4 CJK scripts. I wonder if we would do better to ship one unified
font - I believe that at least with the GNOME stack, the rendered results
will be equivalent, since Pango+Harfbuzz should set appropriate 'locl' tags
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March 29, 2018 12:06 PM, "Peter Robinson" wrote:
> On Thu, 29 Mar 2018, 16:24 Florian Weimer, wrote:
>
>> On 03/28/2018 08:48 PM, Tomasz Torcz ️ wrote:
>>
Note that while GCC produces broken code, this is actually an ABI bug, and
we cannot
On Thu, 2018-03-29 at 16:12 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> wqy-microhei-fonts is very effective, but unfortunately it only covers
> Simplified Chinese and the syllabic parts of Japanese and Korean, not the
> Traditional Chinese, Japanese or Korean renderings of the CJK Unified
> Ideographs.)
AIUI,
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On Thu, 2018-03-29 at 15:57 +, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 10:12 AM Kevin Kofler
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > we did more debugging on #fedora-kde (thanks in particular to lupinix) and
> > we found what seems to be the primary source of the
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 10:12 AM Kevin Kofler
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> we did more debugging on #fedora-kde (thanks in particular to lupinix) and
> we found what seems to be the primary source of the bloat: CJK fonts!
>
> CJK fonts are by far the largest of all fonts due to the
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I filed
Hi,
we did more debugging on #fedora-kde (thanks in particular to lupinix) and
we found what seems to be the primary source of the bloat: CJK fonts!
CJK fonts are by far the largest of all fonts due to the huge number of
characters used in those languages.
Up to Fedora 26, Fedora shipped 4 CJK
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On Thu, 29 Mar 2018 15:32:06 +0200, Stephen Gallagher
wrote:
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 9:16 AM Stephen Gallagher
wrote:
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 8:43 AM Kevin Kofler
wrote:
Hi,
on #fedora-kde, we discussed a huge
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 9:32 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>
> I just checked several packages that compiled the same sources on F26 and
> F28:
> * sscg: 4.31% increase in size
> * nodejs 8: 22% *decrease* in size
> * libmodulemd: 12% *decrease* in size
> * sssd-common: 2.58%
On 03/29/2018 02:42 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Is this size increase caused by Annobin?
Very unlikely. We only have 356 MB of annobin data in the entire x86-64
buildroot. That's 1.7% of the total ELF binary size.
Thanks,
Florian
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On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 9:16 AM Stephen Gallagher
wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 8:43 AM Kevin Kofler
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> on #fedora-kde, we discussed a huge increase to the size of the KDE live
>> image:
>> F27 KDE GA: 1656752111 bytes
>> F27
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 8:43 AM Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Hi,
>
> on #fedora-kde, we discussed a huge increase to the size of the KDE live
> image:
> F27 KDE GA: 1656752111 bytes
> F27 KDE Respin: 1744830464 bytes
> F28 KDE Beta: 2069889024 <(206)%20988-9024> bytes
>
> It
Hello again!
There's been a lot of discussion on this thread, and some useful
feedback. Thanks!
I would like to make a clearer proposal about how gating in Rawhide
would work:
Multi-package update workflow
=
When a packager wants to update multiple interdependent
On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 10:47:50AM +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Le 2018-03-28 12:52, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit :
>
> Hi
>
> > With bodhi:
> > - Single package update
> > https://pingou.fedorapeople.org/gating_rawhide/GatingRawhide_bodhi.png
> > - Multi-packages update
>
> Not terribly fond
On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 09:09:09PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 09, 2018 at 10:20:12AM +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 01:00:32PM -0500, Randy Barlow wrote:
> > > I would like to kick off a general discussion about how we might gate
> > >
Hi,
on #fedora-kde, we discussed a huge increase to the size of the KDE live
image:
F27 KDE GA: 1656752111 bytes
F27 KDE Respin: 1744830464 bytes
F28 KDE Beta: 2069889024 bytes
It turns out the LXQt live image is also hit:
F27 LXQt GA: < 1 GiB
F28 LXQt Beta: 1.4 GiB
and I am pretty sure that
Matěj Cepl wrote:
> When switching the programming langauge than I would think there
> are some better C-successors than C++, namely Rust? Mad rush of
> giving up on 46 years old language and switching to one which is
> just 33 years old seems a bit bizarre to me.
But the "33 years old" language
Hello Thomas,
I am posted to ask if anybody knows how to contact Christian Krause
who is currently the maintainer of Anki in Fedora.
I have sent him an e-mail to his personal address, and I hope he will
respond to this thread soon.
Timotheus
As per the Non-responsive Maintainer Policy
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I am posted to ask if anybody knows how to contact Christian Krause who
is currently the maintainer of Anki in Fedora.
They are yet to respond to my bug requesting that they
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On Thu, 29 Mar 2018, 16:24 Florian Weimer, wrote:
> On 03/28/2018 08:48 PM, Tomasz Torcz ️ wrote:
>
> >> Note that while GCC produces broken code, this is actually an ABI bug,
> and
> >> we cannot change struct layout rules for long long retroactively. Maybe
> we
> >> could
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On 03/28/2018 08:48 PM, Tomasz Torcz ️ wrote:
Note that while GCC produces broken code, this is actually an ABI bug, and
we cannot change struct layout rules for long long retroactively. Maybe we
could for _Atomic long long, but that would need a lengthy investigation,
and I strongly believe
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Le 2018-03-28 12:52, Pierre-Yves Chibon a écrit :
Hi
With bodhi:
- Single package update
https://pingou.fedorapeople.org/gating_rawhide/GatingRawhide_bodhi.png
- Multi-packages update
Not terribly fond of anything that offloads multi-build intellignece
coordination on packagers, forcing
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> So, I've been seeing this problem recently where every time I update the
> Fedora kernel (currently F27), my grub configuration gets mangled.
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