Re: Should the default editor be changed from vi to nano on upgrades to Fedora 33+

2020-12-03 Thread Dridi Boukelmoune
> > Maybe I need to reboot my system for vim to take over again? > > You will at least need to logout and log back in. You're right, if I force a login instead of plain sudo it becomes apparent: $ sudo env | grep EDITOR $ sudo su -c env | grep EDITOR $ sudo su - -c env | grep EDITOR

Fedora-Cloud-33-20201204.0 compose check report

2020-12-03 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/7 (x86_64), 1/7 (aarch64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-33-20201203.0): ID: 735348 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL:

Re: Should the default editor be changed from vi to nano on upgrades to Fedora 33+

2020-12-03 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/3/20 10:52 PM, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote: puts setting EDITOR environment variable into a file (vim-default-editor.sh for bash, ksh, sh and zsh, vim-default-editor.csh for tcsh and vim-default-editor.fish for fish), which is installed under a specific directory (/etc/profile.d for bash,

Re: Should the default editor be changed from vi to nano on upgrades to Fedora 33+

2020-12-03 Thread Dridi Boukelmoune
> actually Vim ships vim-default-editor subpackage now, which conflicts I did install it, but that didn't seem to have an immediate effect. > with nano-default-editor via virtual provide 'system-default-editor'. It I don't have that package on my system: $ sudo dnf remove nano-default-editor

Re: Should the default editor be changed from vi to nano on upgrades to Fedora 33+

2020-12-03 Thread Zdenek Dohnal
On 12/3/20 9:46 PM, Tom Hughes via devel wrote: > >> Also from that bug: >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1896707#c13 >>> "dnf remove nano-default-editor". Alternatively, you can set "export >>> EDITOR=vim" in your ~/.bash_profile > > Setting EDITOR doesn't really work. I mean I have

[389-devel] 389 DS nightly 2020-12-04 - 94% PASS

2020-12-03 Thread vashirov
https://fedorapeople.org/groups/389ds/ci/nightly/2020/12/04/report-389-ds-base-2.0.1-20201204git2eba8fe.fc33.x86_64.html ___ 389-devel mailing list -- 389-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Fedora-Rawhide-20201203.n.1 compose check report

2020-12-03 Thread Fedora compose checker
in Fedora-Rawhide-20201203.n.0): ID: 735096 Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso apps_startstop URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/735096 ID: 735099 Test: x86_64 Workstation-live-iso desktop_login URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/735099 ID: 735155 Test: aarch64 Minimal

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20201203.n.1 changes

2020-12-03 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20201203.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20201203.n.1 = SUMMARY = Added images:1 Dropped images: 1 Added packages: 15 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 164 Downgraded packages: 2 Size of added packages: 6.57 MiB Size of dropped packages:0

[389-devel] Please Review 4474 cleanup rust linking

2020-12-03 Thread William Brown
https://github.com/389ds/389-ds-base/pull/4474 — Sincerely, William Brown Senior Software Engineer, 389 Directory Server SUSE Labs, Australia ___ 389-devel mailing list -- 389-devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: Fedora 34 Change: ntp replacement (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Björn Persson
> == Upgrade/compatibility impact == > > The `ntp` package is replaced automatically on upgrade to Fedora 34. > The configuration file ''/etc/ntp.conf'' is saved as to > ''/etc/ntp.conf.rpmsave'' and it needs to be renamed to > ''/etc/ntp.conf'' to be used by `ntpsec`. Otherwise, `ntpsec` will >

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 12/4/20 1:21 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 07:21:17PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: If you don't have anything interesting to say, it could just be the description of the package. Or other auto-generated information. The information can be requested by machines, why would

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 07:21:17PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > If you don't have anything interesting to say, it could just be the > description of the package. Or other auto-generated information. > > The information can be requested by machines, why would a human maintain it? > It's useful

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 01:17:29AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > >We'd drop in a default one and it'd be the responsibility of the maintainers > >of the various branches. > So except of maintain the branches, I need to maintain a README for > my ~200 packages and keep it up to date? That's a big

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 12/4/20 1:01 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 12:43:43AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: Who maintains this README? We'd drop in a default one and it'd be the responsibility of the maintainers of the various branches. So except of maintain the branches, I need to maintain a

[EPEL-devel] Re: %generate_buildrequires

2020-12-03 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 12/3/20 10:06 PM, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: Is %generate_buildrequires suppose to work for packages which do not used python ? Yes, see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DynamicBuildRequires From the name I would expect it to, but reading that doc makes me think 

Re: [EPEL-devel] %generate_buildrequires

2020-12-03 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 12/3/20 10:06 PM, Andrew C Aitchison wrote: Is %generate_buildrequires suppose to work for packages which do not used python ? Yes, see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/DynamicBuildRequires From the name I would expect it to, but reading that doc makes me think 

[EPEL-devel] Re: Is it worthwhile to get fedora-review into EPEL8?

2020-12-03 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 12/3/20 9:41 PM, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: On Thu, 2020-12-03 at 12:32 -0800, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: I split my time between the latest Fedora and the latest CentOS these days, and it would make dogfooding packaging changes for CentOS/EPEL much easier if all the packager utilities

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 12:43:43AM +0100, Miro Hrončok wrote: > Who maintains this README? We'd drop in a default one and it'd be the responsibility of the maintainers of the various branches. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ devel

Re: External (non-rpm) BuidRequires - was New Mock release v2.7

2020-12-03 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 12/3/20 5:41 PM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: Dne 03. 12. 20 v 9:52 Vít Ondruch napsal(a): Yes, that was the idea. I can imagine, that the reason for your proposal is probably the not so straight forward transition from upstream name "foo" to Fedora name "python3-foo". But I am not expert on

Re: External (non-rpm) BuidRequires - was New Mock release v2.7

2020-12-03 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 12/3/20 9:52 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 02. 12. 20 v 22:49 Miroslav Suchý napsal(a): Dne 02. 12. 20 v 17:19 Vít Ondruch napsal(a): Why these requires does not follow some standard naming convention possibly with some prefix? What do you mean? Like external:python3-foo? Yes, that was

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 12/3/20 4:39 PM, Petr Šabata wrote: On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:34 PM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:16:56PM +0100, Petr Šabata wrote: Since I don't see those on the list, does this impact * rpkg (fedpkg)? Wrapper to git, should not be impacted. The only thing I could

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 12/3/20 7:50 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: As an alternate proposal, what is currently "master" could be moved to "rawhide" and a_new_ "main" branch created explicity to hold just a readme about that package's packaging details (like which branches are what when there are module branches or

Re: %pretrans [package name]

2020-12-03 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 12/3/20 6:08 PM, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote: Miro Hrončok wrote: Try this (note the -n): %pretrans -n doc-en -p That would have to be: %pretrans -n sagemath-doc-en -p because -n takes the full subpackage name, not just the suffix. (That is normally the entire point of -n, to

Re: Fedora TPM1.2 Support

2020-12-03 Thread Jerry Snitselaar
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 2:28 PM Peter Robinson wrote: > > > We are looking to no longer support TPM1.2 in RHEL9. Than raised the > > question with regards to opencryptoki-tpmtok if it should be changed in > > Fedora as well, so I thought I'd see what everyone thinks about future > > TPM1.2 support

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020, 4:11 PM Colin Walters wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > > > This seems more split on the OS consumption model to me, rather than > > the tools to make it. The end user shouldn't care at all about what > > tools make it. > > I've been meaning

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Petr Šabata
Also a couple of notes on modularity here: # By default, module stream name is derived from the branch name If we have any "master" modules, those will get unexpectedly renamed as soon as they get rebuilt. This might impact tagging or updates and cause confusion in general. We should check if

Re: Fedora TPM1.2 Support

2020-12-03 Thread Peter Robinson
> We are looking to no longer support TPM1.2 in RHEL9. Than raised the > question with regards to opencryptoki-tpmtok if it should be changed in > Fedora as well, so I thought I'd see what everyone thinks about future > TPM1.2 support in Fedora. I know at one point in the last year or so >

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020, at 2:14 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > This seems more split on the OS consumption model to me, rather than > the tools to make it. The end user shouldn't care at all about what > tools make it. I've been meaning to write a longer blog post on this but briefly: How you build

[EPEL-devel] %generate_buildrequires

2020-12-03 Thread Andrew C Aitchison
On Thu, 3 Dec 2020, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: Apart from the usual package-not-available story (which I want to fix as part of my work bringing up the EPEL Packagers SIG), my current snag is that python-tox-current-env uses %generate_buildrequires which does not work on CentOS 8: CentOS 8

Re: Future of Fedora Server Edition [was: Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)]

2020-12-03 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 03. 12. 20 v 20:02 Matthew Miller napsal(a): > Mostly the latter. I don't even really care if they end up keeping the > distinct os-release and etc. Is this backed by some numbers and analysis? My personal usage is that I create **hundred thousands** VM from Fedora cloud image per year. And

Re: The future of Fedora Server (was Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change))

2020-12-03 Thread Alexander Scheel
On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 12:52 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > On Wed, 2020-12-02 at 11:14 -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > There were a number of people interested in helping with reviving the > > Server WG, myself included. But we don't know how to have that move > > forward. We've never really had a

Re: Am I the only one affected by Bug 1903332?

2020-12-03 Thread Silvia Sánchez
Hello everyone, My laptop boots but sometimes it has a long gap before it starts, and it takes forever to turn off. My 2 cents Silvia FAS: Lailah On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 20:40, Andreas Tunek wrote: > My computer does not boot with later Linux (like > kernel-5.9.10-200.fc33.x86_64 and

Re: Should the default editor be changed from vi to nano on upgrades to Fedora 33+

2020-12-03 Thread Tom Hughes via devel
On 03/12/2020 20:41, Ben Cotton wrote: On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 3:32 PM Tom Hughes via devel wrote: What exactly does "change the default on upgrade" actually mean here? Making nano-default-editor a dependency of something else that people are likely to have installed? Or adding something to

Re: Should the default editor be changed from vi to nano on upgrades to Fedora 33+

2020-12-03 Thread Ben Cotton
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 3:32 PM Tom Hughes via devel wrote: > > What exactly does "change the default on upgrade" actually mean > here? Making nano-default-editor a dependency of something else > that people are likely to have installed? Or adding something to > some sort of post install script

Re: Is it worthwhile to get fedora-review into EPEL8?

2020-12-03 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Thu, 2020-12-03 at 12:32 -0800, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > I split my time between the latest Fedora and the latest CentOS these > days, and it would make dogfooding packaging changes for CentOS/EPEL > much easier if all the packager utilities are available. Right now, > fedpkg is, but

[EPEL-devel] Re: Is it worthwhile to get fedora-review into EPEL8?

2020-12-03 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On Thu, 2020-12-03 at 12:32 -0800, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > I split my time between the latest Fedora and the latest CentOS these > days, and it would make dogfooding packaging changes for CentOS/EPEL > much easier if all the packager utilities are available. Right now, > fedpkg is, but

[EPEL-devel] Re: Is it worthwhile to get fedora-review into EPEL8?

2020-12-03 Thread Patrick Riehecky
Can you open a bugzilla requesting the %generate_buildrequires macro be backported to RHEL 8? Pat On Thu, 2020-12-03 at 12:32 -0800, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > I split my time between the latest Fedora and the latest CentOS these > days, and it would make dogfooding packaging changes for

Is it worthwhile to get fedora-review into EPEL8?

2020-12-03 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
I split my time between the latest Fedora and the latest CentOS these days, and it would make dogfooding packaging changes for CentOS/EPEL much easier if all the packager utilities are available. Right now, fedpkg is, but fedora-review is not. Tracking my effort here:

[EPEL-devel] Is it worthwhile to get fedora-review into EPEL8?

2020-12-03 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
I split my time between the latest Fedora and the latest CentOS these days, and it would make dogfooding packaging changes for CentOS/EPEL much easier if all the packager utilities are available. Right now, fedpkg is, but fedora-review is not. Tracking my effort here:

Re: Should the default editor be changed from vi to nano on upgrades to Fedora 33+

2020-12-03 Thread Tom Hughes via devel
On 03/12/2020 20:06, Ben Cotton wrote: On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 2:33 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: Should we try to "fix" this by ensuring the default does not change on upgrades? Or should we acknowledge that it does? I think we should acknowledge that it does because... Changing the default on

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2020-12-03 at 15:22 -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > I dunno when's the last time anyone tried without it, tbh. > > For CoreOS we spent a *lot* of time ensuring that Ignition has first class > SELinux support, and actually

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 03:25:20PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:15:24PM +0100, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:08:26PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:03 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > > > > >

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Colin Walters
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020, at 2:48 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > I dunno when's the last time anyone tried without it, tbh. For CoreOS we spent a *lot* of time ensuring that Ignition has first class SELinux support, and actually making it work on the Live ISO in a not-horribly-hacky way required a

Fedora-IoT-33-20201203.0 compose check report

2020-12-03 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 1/15 (aarch64) Old failures (same test failed in Fedora-IoT-33-20201124.0): ID: 735030 Test: aarch64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso iot_clevis@uefi URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/735030 Soft failed openQA tests: 1/16 (x86_64) (Tests

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 03:53:00PM +, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 10:02:34AM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GitRepos-master-to-main > > > > == Summary == > > > > This Change will move Fedora git repositories to use "main" as the >

Re: Should the default editor be changed from vi to nano on upgrades to Fedora 33+

2020-12-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 02:32:20PM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 2:31 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > we have changed the default editor from vi to nano on Fedora 33+. > > > > The change proposal says: > > > > > Will not apply to upgrades. > > > >

Re: Should the default editor be changed from vi to nano on upgrades to Fedora 33+

2020-12-03 Thread Ben Cotton
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 2:33 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Should we try to "fix" this by ensuring the default does not change on > upgrades? > Or should we acknowledge that it does? > I think we should acknowledge that it does because... > Changing the default on upgrades is good because the

Re: Am I the only one affected by Bug 1903332?

2020-12-03 Thread Peter Robinson
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 7:52 PM Andreas Tunek wrote: > > > > Den tors 3 dec. 2020 kl 20:49 skrev Peter Robinson : >> >> > My computer does not boot with later Linux (like >> > kernel-5.9.10-200.fc33.x86_64 and 5.9.11-200.fc33) and I reported that in >> > Bug 1903332. I guess that is a really

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:56:09PM +0100, Clement Verna wrote: >On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 16:21, Pierre-Yves Chibon <[1]pin...@pingoured.fr> >wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:08:26PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:03 PM Ben Cotton

Re: Am I the only one affected by Bug 1903332?

2020-12-03 Thread Andreas Tunek
Den tors 3 dec. 2020 kl 20:49 skrev Peter Robinson : > > My computer does not boot with later Linux (like > kernel-5.9.10-200.fc33.x86_64 and 5.9.11-200.fc33) and I reported that in > Bug 1903332. I guess that is a really HW-specific bug since it hasn't been > discussed here, but I wonder if

Re: Am I the only one affected by Bug 1903332?

2020-12-03 Thread Peter Robinson
> My computer does not boot with later Linux (like > kernel-5.9.10-200.fc33.x86_64 and 5.9.11-200.fc33) and I reported that in Bug > 1903332. I guess that is a really HW-specific bug since it hasn't been > discussed here, but I wonder if anyone else here has the same problem? > > I guess I will

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2020-12-03 at 14:43 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 11:36:32AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > (Personally I'm really proud that for example our Live ISO ships with > > > > SELinux enforcing) > > > This is true of Fedora Workstation and other desktop spin live

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2020-12-03 at 14:14 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > > > > Beyond the pungi-vs-bodhi thing of course, to me it is also very > > fundamental that our OS build and test process runs natively via podman and > > Kubernetes (unprivileged). We're telling people to use containers; > > building the

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 11:36:32AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > (Personally I'm really proud that for example our Live ISO ships with > > > SELinux enforcing) > > This is true of Fedora Workstation and other desktop spin live ISOs as well. > Yes, but the live installer runs 'setenforce 0'

Re: Future of Fedora Server Edition [was: Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)]

2020-12-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 09:35:02PM +0200, Alexander Bokovoy wrote: > >>Server: a install dvd, pxe/netboot > >>Cloud: a runnable image > >>Are folks wanting to drop the dvd and netinstall? > >>Or just market the Cloud image more to server admins that want a ready > >>to run image? > > > >Mostly the

Am I the only one affected by Bug 1903332?

2020-12-03 Thread Andreas Tunek
My computer does not boot with later Linux (like kernel-5.9.10-200.fc33.x86_64 and 5.9.11-200.fc33) and I reported that in Bug 1903332. I guess that is a really HW-specific bug since it hasn't been discussed here, but I wonder if anyone else here has the same problem? I guess I will enable

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2020-12-03 at 14:06 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 01:58:56PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > > (Personally I'm really proud that for example our Live ISO ships with > > SELinux enforcing) > > This is true of Fedora Workstation and other desktop spin live ISOs as

Re: Future of Fedora Server Edition [was: Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)]

2020-12-03 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On to, 03 joulu 2020, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 10:53:39AM -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: I suppose we could look into this, but it seems kind of complementary to me: Server: a install dvd, pxe/netboot Cloud: a runnable image Are folks wanting to drop the dvd and netinstall? Or

Re: Should the default editor be changed from vi to nano on upgrades to Fedora 33+

2020-12-03 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 2:31 PM Miro Hrončok wrote: > > Hello, > > we have changed the default editor from vi to nano on Fedora 33+. > > The change proposal says: > > > Will not apply to upgrades. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/UseNanoByDefault#Upgrade.2Fcompatibility_impact > >

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2020-12-03 at 19:48 +0100, Clement Verna wrote: > > >   I think if we don't want to accept a different > > > philosophy about release schedule and release engineering we can > just > > close > > > that Change proposal. > > > > That's not the outcome I intended, but rather that if we want

Should the default editor be changed from vi to nano on upgrades to Fedora 33+

2020-12-03 Thread Miro Hrončok
Hello, we have changed the default editor from vi to nano on Fedora 33+. The change proposal says: > Will not apply to upgrades. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/UseNanoByDefault#Upgrade.2Fcompatibility_impact However, currently, it does apply to upgrades:

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2020-12-03 at 19:48 +0100, Clement Verna wrote: [big snip] > To the outside > > world, there is a strong impression that the thing called "Fedora" is a > > product or set of products with a release number that gets released > > every six months. The concept of "Fedora 33 release" or

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Josh Boyer
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 1:59 PM Colin Walters wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > > What does the question "is Fedora CoreOS 34 ready to go" even mean, in > > the context of how CoreOS is built and released? What set of bits will > > we be deciding to ship

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 01:58:56PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > (Personally I'm really proud that for example our Live ISO ships with > SELinux enforcing) This is true of Fedora Workstation and other desktop spin live ISOs as well. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader

Re: Future of Fedora Server Edition [was: Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)]

2020-12-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 10:53:39AM -0800, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > I suppose we could look into this, but it seems kind of complementary to > me: > Server: a install dvd, pxe/netboot > Cloud: a runnable image > Are folks wanting to drop the dvd and netinstall? > Or just market the Cloud image more to

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, Dec 2, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > What does the question "is Fedora CoreOS 34 ready to go" even mean, in > the context of how CoreOS is built and released? What set of bits will > we be deciding to ship or not ship, and how will that have been decided > and

Re: Future of Fedora Server Edition [was: Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)]

2020-12-03 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 10:29:11AM +0100, Christopher Engelhard wrote: > On 2020-12-03 09:31, David Kaufmann wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 02, 2020 at 06:11:09PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote: > > > That would be amazing! In order for it to remain as an edition, we > > > (speaking > > > generally for the

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:08:26PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote: > Is there a reason why "main" is proposed instead of "rawhide" on src.fp.o? > For all non-dist-git repositories I am fine with "main", but if we are > changing this anyway, "rawhide" would actually make more sense for > dist-git

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Clement Verna
On Wed, 2 Dec 2020 at 21:22, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2020-12-02 at 19:42 +0100, Clement Verna wrote: > > > > > > CoreOS is going to be the same only worse, because it's not even built > > > the same way as the rest of Fedora. It's not built by Pungi, we don't > > > get the same messages

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 09:31:43AM +0100, David Kaufmann wrote: > Until now I thought of both as having a very different target audience, > I've never looked at Cloud Base, as I almost completely self-host. > I don't really understand why it should be merged, is there some > document or chat log

Fedora-Rawhide-20201203.n.0 compose check report

2020-12-03 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Xfce raw-xz armhfp Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check! 5 of 43 required tests failed, 4 results missing openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with **GATING** below Failed openQA tests: 22/180 (x86_64), 22/117 (aarch64) New failures (same

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 03. 12. 20 v 16:02 Ben Cotton napsal(a): > * Release engineering: > >Releng will adjust any scripts that assume 'master' branch to use > 'main' instead. The list includes and maybe few more I do not see in the list upstream of dist-git. I proceeded with:

Fedora-IoT-34-20201203.0 compose check report

2020-12-03 Thread Fedora compose checker
Missing expected images: Iot dvd x86_64 Iot dvd aarch64 Failed openQA tests: 4/16 (x86_64), 7/15 (aarch64) New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-IoT-34-20201202.0): ID: 734887 Test: x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso podman URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/734887 ID: 734888

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 03.12.2020 16:02, Ben Cotton wrote: This Change will move Fedora git repositories to use "main" as the default git branch instead of "master". Specific repositories will be manually moved and default git branch for new projects will be set to use "main". 1. Why "main" and not "rawhide"? 2.

Re: Mass spec file change: Adding BuildRequires: make

2020-12-03 Thread Tom Stellard
On 12/3/20 8:32 AM, Fabio Valentini wrote: On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 5:17 PM Tom Stellard wrote: On 12/3/20 7:39 AM, Fabio Valentini wrote: On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:35 PM Tom Stellard wrote: On 12/2/20 5:45 AM, Artem Tim wrote: How to quickly retest packages which listed here

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Ben Cotton wrote: > This changes is to promote Fedora CoreOS to Edition status alongside > Workstation, Server and IoT. IMHO, Fedora CoreOS is still an experiment with way too many limitations and drawbacks to warrant Edition status. Don't get me wrong, it is nice to have a place for

Re: %pretrans [package name]

2020-12-03 Thread Kevin Kofler via devel
Miro Hrončok wrote: > Try this (note the -n): > > %pretrans -n doc-en -p That would have to be: %pretrans -n sagemath-doc-en -p because -n takes the full subpackage name, not just the suffix. (That is normally the entire point of -n, to allow arbitrary names for subpackages.)

[EPEL-devel] [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : EPEL Steering Committee

2020-12-03 Thread tdawson
Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: EPEL Steering Committee on 2020-12-04 from 17:00:00 to 18:00:00 US/Eastern At fedora-meet...@irc.freenode.net The meeting will be about: This is the weekly EPEL Steering Committee Meeting. A general agenda is the following: #meetingname

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 03. 12. 20 v 16:31 Pierre-Yves Chibon napsal(a): >> >> * rpkg (fedpkg)? > >Wrapper to git, should not be impacted. but is impacted. There is bunch of if rel == 'master': return ['master'] which needs to be updated. Also request_repo have hard-coded "master" name. >> * COPR?

Re: External (non-rpm) BuidRequires - was New Mock release v2.7

2020-12-03 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 03. 12. 20 v 9:52 Vít Ondruch napsal(a): > Yes, that was the idea. I can imagine, that the reason for your proposal is > probably the not so straight forward > transition from upstream name "foo" to Fedora name "python3-foo". But I am > not expert on Python naming conventions. The reverse

Re: Mass spec file change: Adding BuildRequires: make

2020-12-03 Thread ycollette . nospam
In my spec files, I use %cmake, %cmake_build and %cmake_install. A priori, I now that I must add BuildRequires cmake but I don't now the details of the macro. So, I don't now if the %cmake macro is tuned to build a ninja or a make project. I think the cmake should ship a minima the build tools

Re: Mass spec file change: Adding BuildRequires: make

2020-12-03 Thread Tom Hughes via devel
On 03/12/2020 16:21, Gary Buhrmaster wrote: On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 3:39 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: I still think a lot of those are "false positives". CMake has a hard Requires on make, so if I BuildRequires cmake, adding "BuildRequires: make" is just redundant.

Re: Mass spec file change: Adding BuildRequires: make

2020-12-03 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 5:17 PM Tom Stellard wrote: > > On 12/3/20 7:39 AM, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:35 PM Tom Stellard wrote: > >> > >> On 12/2/20 5:45 AM, Artem Tim wrote: > >>> How to quickly retest packages which listed here > >>>

Re: Fedora 34 Change: Make Fedora CoreOS a Fedora Edition (System-Wide Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2020-12-02 at 21:25 -0500, Dusty Mabe wrote: > > Ideally we update our stable stream closer to Fedora's actual release date > but I think it's > important to maybe release Fedora CoreOS from the notion that it's tightly > coupled with the > Fedora major release date for a few reasons:

Re: Mass spec file change: Adding BuildRequires: make

2020-12-03 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 11:18, Tom Stellard wrote: > On 12/3/20 7:39 AM, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:35 PM Tom Stellard wrote: > >> > >> On 12/2/20 5:45 AM, Artem Tim wrote: > >>> How to quickly retest packages which listed here >

Re: Mass spec file change: Adding BuildRequires: make

2020-12-03 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 3:39 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > I still think a lot of those are "false positives". > CMake has a hard Requires on make, so if I BuildRequires cmake, adding > "BuildRequires: make" is just redundant. > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/cmake/blob/master/f/cmake.spec#_185

Re: Mass spec file change: Adding BuildRequires: make

2020-12-03 Thread Tom Stellard
On 12/3/20 7:39 AM, Fabio Valentini wrote: On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:35 PM Tom Stellard wrote: On 12/2/20 5:45 AM, Artem Tim wrote: How to quickly retest packages which listed here https://fedorapeople.org/~tstellar/needs_br_make_packages.txt? I've tested few locally and in Koji Rawhide

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20201203.n.0 changes

2020-12-03 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20201202.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20201203.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:2 Dropped images: 2 Added packages: 111 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 119 Downgraded packages: 1 Size of added packages: 181.80 MiB Size of dropped packages

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:39:35PM +0100, Petr Šabata wrote: > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:34 PM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:16:56PM +0100, Petr Šabata wrote: > > > Since I don't see those on the list, does this impact > > > > > > * rpkg (fedpkg)? > > > > Wrapper to

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Clement Verna
On Thu, 3 Dec 2020 at 16:21, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:08:26PM +0100, Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:03 PM Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GitRepos-master-to-main > > > > > > == Summary == > > > > > > This

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 10:53 AM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 10:02:34AM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GitRepos-master-to-main > > > > == Summary == > > > > This Change will move Fedora git repositories to use "main" as the > > default

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Daniel P . Berrangé
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 10:02:34AM -0500, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GitRepos-master-to-main > > == Summary == > > This Change will move Fedora git repositories to use "main" as the > default git branch instead of "master". Specific repositories will be > manually

Re: Mass spec file change: Adding BuildRequires: make

2020-12-03 Thread Tom Hughes via devel
On 03/12/2020 15:39, Fabio Valentini wrote: On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:35 PM Tom Stellard wrote: On 12/2/20 5:45 AM, Artem Tim wrote: How to quickly retest packages which listed here https://fedorapeople.org/~tstellar/needs_br_make_packages.txt? I've tested few locally and in Koji Rawhide

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 3:08 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > Is there a reason why "main" is proposed instead of "rawhide" on src.fp.o? Aligning as much as possible with what appears to be the industry consensus ("main") makes sense to me, as I will be able to (re)train my finger muscle memory in

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Petr Šabata
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:34 PM Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:16:56PM +0100, Petr Šabata wrote: > > Since I don't see those on the list, does this impact > > > > * rpkg (fedpkg)? > > Wrapper to git, should not be impacted. The only thing I could think of was: > when we

Re: Mass spec file change: Adding BuildRequires: make

2020-12-03 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Thu, Dec 3, 2020 at 4:35 PM Tom Stellard wrote: > > On 12/2/20 5:45 AM, Artem Tim wrote: > > How to quickly retest packages which listed here > > https://fedorapeople.org/~tstellar/needs_br_make_packages.txt? I've tested > > few locally and in Koji Rawhide scratch, but they are compiled

Re: Mass spec file change: Adding BuildRequires: make

2020-12-03 Thread Tom Stellard
On 12/2/20 5:45 AM, Artem Tim wrote: How to quickly retest packages which listed here https://fedorapeople.org/~tstellar/needs_br_make_packages.txt? I've tested few locally and in Koji Rawhide scratch, but they are compiled fine. ___ If the packages use make and they BuildRequire: make then

Re: Mass spec file change: Adding BuildRequires: make

2020-12-03 Thread Tom Stellard
On 12/2/20 2:37 AM, Mark Wielaard wrote: Hi Tom, On Mon, 2020-11-30 at 14:06 -0800, Tom Stellard wrote: As part of the f34 change request[1] for removing make from the buildroot, I will be doing a mass update of packages[2] to add BuildRequires: make where it is needed. As part of a previous

Re: Fedora 34 Change: GitRepos-master-to-main (Self-Contained Change)

2020-12-03 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 04:16:56PM +0100, Petr Šabata wrote: > Since I don't see those on the list, does this impact > > * rpkg (fedpkg)? Wrapper to git, should not be impacted. The only thing I could think of was: when we fedpkg clone an empty git repo, have fedpkg do the "git branch -M main"

[EPEL-devel] Re: Netdata EPEL package

2020-12-03 Thread Troy Dawson
It is best to open a bugzilla bugs for questions like this. Each EPEL package is maintained by it's own packager. (Although many packagers have hundred of packages) And not all packagers are subscribed to the EPEL mailing list. In this case, this has already been requested / asked.

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