Re: debugging pipewire & root access to systemd userspace

2021-06-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Jun 18, 2021 at 01:38:08AM +0200, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > Hello, > > Apologies if you find the subject line vague or misleading, I couldn't > figure out what to write. I've been trying to debug a transient > pipewire issue so that I can file a bug report, but I keep stumbling > from

Re: x86_64-v2 in Fedora

2021-06-17 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Hi, > The problems with this is that we are taking a fairly fuzzy data set > and making it much easier to track individual users in ways seen as > problematic by various laws and regulations. Well, depends on how you store the data. You can store one record per machine (with all properties in

Re: x86_64-v2 in Fedora

2021-06-17 Thread Mark Otaris
For Fedora, linux-hardware.org says 78% use EFI and 16% have Secure Boot enabled. Not a very good data set, though Fedora telemetry wouldn’t be either. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@li

debugging pipewire & root access to systemd userspace

2021-06-17 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
Hello, Apologies if you find the subject line vague or misleading, I couldn't figure out what to write. I've been trying to debug a transient pipewire issue so that I can file a bug report, but I keep stumbling from one roadblock to the next. When the problem occurs, pipewire receives a SIGSEGV a

Re: systemd unit auto-enabling question

2021-06-17 Thread Peter Hutterer
On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 07:48:24AM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Thu, Jun 17 2021 at 11:52:44 AM +1000, Peter Hutterer > wrote: > > What I need is manager.service being auto-enabled at install time. How > > do I > > get this done? > > Hi, you're missing a systemd preset. You generally need

Re: x86_64-v2 in Fedora

2021-06-17 Thread Stephen Snow
Okay, So here comes another naive suggestion. The metrics that are desired are really innocuous content which should not risk anonymity, correct? Such things like BIOS/UEFI/?, CPU, Memory, installed edition or spin, when it was installed, optional packages, storage setup, etc... I presume. Why not

Re: Pipewire and Jack usage in an RPM

2021-06-17 Thread Ian McInerney
On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 8:40 PM Leigh Scott wrote: > Why are you trying to install a srpm? > > D'oh *facepalm*. That is what I get when I don't pay attention when copying the rpm from one folder to another. Yep, it works on the actual RPM now. -Ian ___

Re: x86_64-v2 in Fedora

2021-06-17 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 10:36:47AM -0500, Ron Olson wrote: > Apologies in advance if this is laughable naïveté, but would a possible > solution be to have a different repo for packages compiled against the > latest-n-greatest architectures, and packagers could choose to include their > packages

Re: Can't login with kinit using 2FA

2021-06-17 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 11:00:33AM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Thu, 2021-06-17 at 07:54 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 17 2021 at 10:09:26 AM +0100, David Howells > > wrote: > > > What if you're not using gnome? > > > > Then you should install fedora-packager-kerberos? Or fedo

Re: Can't login with kinit using 2FA

2021-06-17 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 12:32:43PM -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Wed, Jun 16 2021 at 09:54:02 AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi > wrote: > > I think there are plans to improve this use case in krb5 utils. > > I suppose we could also see if GOA could support this case somehow and > > add a dep on fedora

Re: Pipewire and Jack usage in an RPM

2021-06-17 Thread Leigh Scott
Why are you trying to install a srpm? ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List G

Pipewire and Jack usage in an RPM

2021-06-17 Thread Ian McInerney
I was just trying amock build of Audacity to test some updates and I am now having trouble installing it on F34 because of a conflict between jack-audio-connection-kit and pipewire-jack-audio-connection-kit: $ sudo dnf install ./audacity-3.0.2-3.fc34.src.rpm Last metadata expiration check: 2:19:21

Re: x86_64-v2 in Fedora

2021-06-17 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 11:02:23PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 9:52 PM Benjamin Beasley > wrote: > > > > At the risk of overextending an already well-elaborated thread, I would > > like to point out that my main workstation, for Fedora packaging and other > > purposes

Re: x86_64-v2 in Fedora

2021-06-17 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 17 Jun 2021 at 12:27, Justin Forbes wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 3:23 PM Matthew Miller > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 02:57:17PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > > >We'll at least gather information about capabilities of Fedora > > > >users hardware. > > > Tele

Re: x86_64-v2 in Fedora

2021-06-17 Thread Chris Murphy
On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 10:26 AM Justin Forbes wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 3:23 PM Matthew Miller > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 02:57:17PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > > >We'll at least gather information about capabilities of Fedora > > > >users hardware. > > > T

Re: Updating sources file using fedpkg

2021-06-17 Thread Otto Urpelainen
Ken Dreyer kirjoitti 17.6.2021 klo 19.04: On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 8:33 AM Richard Shaw wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 7:22 AM Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: To be clear: I don't want to fiddle with the sources file, hence this email. However, I would like to at least complete a local m

Re: Unannounced pcre2-posix SONAME bump, I think

2021-06-17 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Lukas Javorsky writes: > I want to apologize one more time. > This experience will be written in my mind forever. Try not to punish yourself. A good friend once completely broke XEmacs by bumping the version number in version.el from "20.0-betaXX" to "20.0". (It turned out that somebody had l

Re: x86_64-v2 in Fedora

2021-06-17 Thread Justin Forbes
On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 3:23 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 02:57:17PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > >We'll at least gather information about capabilities of Fedora > > >users hardware. > > Telemetry is evil. It must not be allowed. > > Well, that's certainly A P

Re: Updating sources file using fedpkg

2021-06-17 Thread Ken Dreyer
On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 8:33 AM Richard Shaw wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 7:22 AM Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden > wrote: >> >> >> To be clear: I don't want to fiddle with the sources file, hence this >> email. However, I would like to at least complete a local mockbuild >> before uploading to

Re: Let's retire original glib and gtk+

2021-06-17 Thread Jerry James
On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 9:42 AM Michael Catanzaro wrote: > No, you need to drop the dependency on libgnomeui as well. That's been > obsolete for over a decade now. If we manage to retire gconf2, that > will go with it. Okay, that's good to know. It looks like the gnomeui bindings in ocaml-lablgt

Intent to orphan JDK Mission Control

2021-06-17 Thread Alex Macdonald
Hi everyone, I am writing to let everyone know that JDK Mission Control (JMC) and it’s dependencies will be orphaned in Fedora by the end of tomorrow (June 18th). This encompasses packages owned by both myself (almac) and jkang, and includes the jmc and jmc-core packages along with the dependencie

Re: x86_64-v2 in Fedora

2021-06-17 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 17 Jun 2021 at 11:38, Ron Olson wrote: > > Apologies in advance if this is laughable naïveté, but would a possible > solution be to have a different repo for packages compiled against the > latest-n-greatest architectures, and packagers could choose to include their > packages in there,

Re: Let's retire original glib and gtk+

2021-06-17 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Jun 17 2021 at 09:29:52 AM -0600, Jerry James wrote: Got it. None of the packages I listed depend directly on gconf2. They seem to be on the list due to: ocaml-lablgtk -> libgnomeui -> GConf2 | ---> libgnome -> GConf2 which m

Re: F35 Change: Broken RPATH will fail rpmbuild (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-06-17 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Hi, the script is failing the glib2 build due to an invalid rpath, but unless I'm missing something obvious, I think it's valid. Reported: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1973304 ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: Upcoming soname bumps

2021-06-17 Thread Jerry James
On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 7:14 PM Jerry James wrote: > It's nearly time for another round of mathematical software updates, > including some soname bumps. I am going to do the following, in this > approximate order: I have worked out the issues I was having with Macaulay2 and sagemath, so I am goi

Re: x86_64-v2 in Fedora

2021-06-17 Thread Ron Olson
Apologies in advance if this is laughable naïveté, but would a possible solution be to have a different repo for packages compiled against the latest-n-greatest architectures, and packagers could choose to include their packages in there, similar to EPEL? Packages in this hypothetical repo could

Re: Let's retire original glib and gtk+

2021-06-17 Thread Jerry James
On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 6:58 AM Michael Catanzaro wrote: > Hi, nobody proposed removing gtk2. The problem there is gconf2. gtk2 > does not depend on gconf2. > > Packages to be retired: > > * glib > * gtk+ > * gconf2 Got it. None of the packages I listed depend directly on gconf2. They seem to

Re: F35 Change: Broken RPATH will fail rpmbuild (System-Wide Change proposal)

2021-06-17 Thread Tom Stellard
On 6/16/21 10:58 PM, Tom Stellard wrote: On 6/16/21 2:11 PM, Charalampos Stratakis wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 1:56 AM Tom Stellard mailto:tstel...@redhat.com>> wrote:     On 5/7/21 10:48 AM, Ben Cotton wrote: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Broken_RPATH_will_fail_rpmbuild

Re: x86_64-v2 in Fedora

2021-06-17 Thread przemek klosowski via devel
On 6/17/21 4:44 AM, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 16.06.2021 22:22, Matthew Miller wrote: Well, that's certainly A Position. I don't think it's anything nearly so absolute, though, and depends on what, who, how, why, and a host of other things. And "it can help us answer questions like th

Re: Can't login with kinit using 2FA

2021-06-17 Thread Simo Sorce
On Thu, 2021-06-17 at 07:54 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Thu, Jun 17 2021 at 10:09:26 AM +0100, David Howells > wrote: > > What if you're not using gnome? > > Then you should install fedora-packager-kerberos? Or fedora-packager, > which has a dependency on fedora-packager-kerberos. > >

Re: Updating sources file using fedpkg

2021-06-17 Thread Tom Hughes via devel
On 17/06/2021 12:57, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: After that, I'm looking for a command to update the sources file with new checksums so I can run: fedpkg new-sources I could not find such a command so until now I've been using sha512sum manually, but there must be a better way :) We

Re: Let's retire original glib and gtk+

2021-06-17 Thread Michael Catanzaro
Hi, nobody proposed removing gtk2. The problem there is gconf2. gtk2 does not depend on gconf2. Packages to be retired: * glib * gtk+ * gconf2 ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists

Re: Can't login with kinit using 2FA

2021-06-17 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Jun 17 2021 at 10:09:26 AM +0100, David Howells wrote: What if you're not using gnome? Then you should install fedora-packager-kerberos? Or fedora-packager, which has a dependency on fedora-packager-kerberos. Anyway, at first I thought that gnome-online-accounts needed a dependency

Re: systemd unit auto-enabling question

2021-06-17 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Thu, Jun 17 2021 at 11:52:44 AM +1000, Peter Hutterer wrote: What I need is manager.service being auto-enabled at install time. How do I get this done? Hi, you're missing a systemd preset. You generally need FESCo approval to add a preset. See: * https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/fedor

Re: Rubygem package smoke testing [was: Re: F35 Change: Python Packaging Guidelines overhaul (System-Wide Change proposal)]

2021-06-17 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 17. 06. 21 v 13:26 Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden napsal(a): On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 02:21:18PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 16. 06. 21 v 13:36 Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden napsal(a): On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 01:17:31PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 15. 06. 21 v 19:34 Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaard

Re: x86_64-v2 in Fedora

2021-06-17 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 17.06.2021 13:43, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: 1. This conversation is not about other operating systems. It was just an example of telemetry usage. 2. No one is talking about installing keyloggers or similar tools. Appetite comes with eating. More and more telemetry will be introduced o

Fedora-Rawhide-20210617.n.0 compose check report

2021-06-17 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Compose FAILS proposed Rawhide gating check! 12 of 43 required tests failed openQA tests matching unsatisfied gating requirements shown with **GATING** below Failed openQA tests: 37/198 (x86_64), 18/134 (aarch64) New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-Rawhide-2

Re: Updating sources file using fedpkg

2021-06-17 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 7:22 AM Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden < ewoud+fed...@kohlvanwijngaarden.nl> wrote: > > To be clear: I don't want to fiddle with the sources file, hence this > email. However, I would like to at least complete a local mockbuild > before uploading to the lookaside cache. It is m

Re: Updating sources file using fedpkg

2021-06-17 Thread Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden
On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 02:11:41PM +0200, Matthias Runge wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 01:57:03PM +0200, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: Hello everyone, As someone who just got started, I'm looking for some help. I'd like to update packages. I'm used to git, so my typical flow is to make su

Re: Updating sources file using fedpkg

2021-06-17 Thread Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden
On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 02:05:16PM +0200, Fabio Valentini wrote: On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 1:57 PM Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: Hello everyone, As someone who just got started, I'm looking for some help. I'd like to update packages. I'm used to git, so my typical flow is to make sure I ha

Re: Updating sources file using fedpkg

2021-06-17 Thread Matthias Runge
On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 01:57:03PM +0200, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: > Hello everyone, > > As someone who just got started, I'm looking for some help. > > I'd like to update packages. I'm used to git, so my typical flow is to make > sure I have some clean branch to start working from (clon

Re: [Fedocal] Reminder meeting : Fedora Classroom - RPM Packaging 101

2021-06-17 Thread Ankur Sinha
Folks, please use this link to join the session. We're starting in a few minutes. https://redhat.bluejeans.com/473822117/3398 -- Thanks, Regards, Ankur Sinha "FranciscoD" (He / Him / His) | https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Ankursinha Time zone: Europe/London signature.asc Description: PGP

Re: Updating sources file using fedpkg

2021-06-17 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 1:57 PM Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > As someone who just got started, I'm looking for some help. > > I'd like to update packages. I'm used to git, so my typical flow is to > make sure I have some clean branch to start working from (clone is just

[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : ELN SIG

2021-06-17 Thread sgallagh
Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: ELN SIG on 2021-06-18 from 12:00:00 to 13:00:00 US/Eastern At fedora-meet...@irc.libera.net The meeting will be about: Source: https://calendar.fedoraproject.org//meeting/9920/ ___ devel mailing

[Fedocal] Reminder meeting : ELN SIG

2021-06-17 Thread sgallagh
Dear all, You are kindly invited to the meeting: ELN SIG on 2021-06-18 from 12:00:00 to 13:00:00 US/Eastern At fedora-meet...@irc.libera.net The meeting will be about: Source: https://apps.fedoraproject.org/calendar/meeting/9920/ ___ devel mai

Fedora-IoT-35-20210617.0 compose check report

2021-06-17 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 2/16 (x86_64), 3/15 (aarch64) Old failures (same test failed in Fedora-IoT-35-20210616.0): ID: 910778 Test: x86_64 IoT-dvd_ostree-iso iot_zezere_server URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/910778 ID: 910779 Test: x86_64 IoT-dvd_os

Updating sources file using fedpkg

2021-06-17 Thread Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden
Hello everyone, As someone who just got started, I'm looking for some help. I'd like to update packages. I'm used to git, so my typical flow is to make sure I have some clean branch to start working from (clone is just for completeness): fedpkg clone mypackage cd mypackage git checkout -b ra

Re: x86_64-v2 in Fedora

2021-06-17 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Thu, 17 Jun 2021 at 04:45, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 16.06.2021 22:22, Matthew Miller wrote: > > Well, that's certainly A Position. I don't think it's anything nearly so > > absolute, though, and depends on what, who, how, why, and a host of other > > things. And "it can help us an

Re: Rubygem package smoke testing [was: Re: F35 Change: Python Packaging Guidelines overhaul (System-Wide Change proposal)]

2021-06-17 Thread Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden
On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 02:21:18PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 16. 06. 21 v 13:36 Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden napsal(a): On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 01:17:31PM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 15. 06. 21 v 19:34 Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden napsal(a): On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 01:51:12PM +0200, Miro H

Re: Experience on src.fedoraproject.org as non-packager

2021-06-17 Thread Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden
On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 09:57:13AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 03:05:59PM +0200, Ewoud Kohl van Wijngaarden wrote: Interesting, I had not tried that. What I used was the clone button. That shows a small dialog with this (as packager): Source Code SSH GIT

Branching in the container namespace

2021-06-17 Thread Tomas Hrcka
Hello all, we got a ticket[1] raised with release engineering regarding branching container namespace in distgit. We don't branch container namespace as we initially thought we will let maintainers decide whether they want the repo to be branched or not. We would like to get some feedback from con

Fedora rawhide compose report: 20210617.n.0 changes

2021-06-17 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-Rawhide-20210616.n.0 NEW: Fedora-Rawhide-20210617.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:2 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 10 Dropped packages:3 Upgraded packages: 76 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 32.25 MiB Size of dropped packages

and Gconf2 ? Re: Let's retire original glib and gtk+

2021-06-17 Thread Sérgio Basto
On Wed, 2021-06-16 at 18:42 -0600, Jerry James wrote: > Sorry, didn't see this when it first came through. > > On Mon, May 31, 2021 at 4:18 AM Sérgio Basto wrote: > > I propose, for F36, the retire of Gconf2 (1) > > > > dnf repoquery --disablerepo='*' \ > > --enablerepo={rpmfusion-{non,}free-,}r

Fedora-Cloud-34-20210617.0 compose check report

2021-06-17 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 8/8 (x86_64) Old failures (same test failed in Fedora-Cloud-34-20210616.0): ID: 910284 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 base_package_install_remove URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/910284 ID: 910285 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-

Re: Fwd: OpenSceneGraph and gdal need to be rebuild for Fedora 34

2021-06-17 Thread Björn 'besser82' Esser
Am Donnerstag, dem 17.06.2021 um 08:55 +0200 schrieb Björn 'besser82' Esser: > Am Mittwoch, dem 16.06.2021 um 21:18 +0200 schrieb Björn 'besser82' > Esser: > > Am Mittwoch, dem 16.06.2021 um 19:53 +0200 schrieb Jiri Kucera: > > > Adding devel-list for a broader audience. My side tag will expire > >

Re: Can't login with kinit using 2FA

2021-06-17 Thread David Howells
Michael Catanzaro wrote: > Whatever is needed for Fedora kerberos to work needs to be a dependency of > gnome-online-accounts What if you're not using gnome? David ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: x86_64-v2 in Fedora

2021-06-17 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 16.06.2021 22:22, Matthew Miller wrote: Well, that's certainly A Position. I don't think it's anything nearly so absolute, though, and depends on what, who, how, why, and a host of other things. And "it can help us answer questions like this for our community" is a pretty non-evil "why". Bui

Fedora-Cloud-33-20210617.0 compose check report

2021-06-17 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/8 (x86_64), 1/8 (aarch64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-33-20210616.0): ID: 910273 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL: https://op