Re: [CoreOS] Fedora CoreOS Community Video Meeting 2021-10-06

2021-10-06 Thread Luna Jernberg
Watching the recording now :) On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 8:53 PM Dusty Mabe wrote: > > > On 10/5/21 5:53 PM, Dusty Mabe wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > Tomorrow we will be holding a video meeting for the Fedora CoreOS > community. > > > > Harshal Patil will be joining us to give a brief overview of how F

Schedule for Thursday's FPC Meeting (2021-10-07 16:00 UTC)

2021-10-06 Thread James Antill
 Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FPC meeting Thursday at 2021-10-07 16:00 UTC in #fedora-meeting-1 on irc.libera.chat.  Local time information (via. uitime): = Day: Thursday == 2021-10-07 09:00 PDT US/Pacific 2021-10-07 12

Re: F34 Cloud Amazon AMIs unbootable after updates

2021-10-06 Thread Christopher
Running on EC2, it's kinda hard to get good information from a system that won't boot. The machine won't boot to the point of being able to capture the system log, and the screenshot of the instance doesn't appear to be super helpful: https://imgur.com/a/4PWcRSg On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 4:42 PM Joe

Re: RISC-V -- are we ready for more, and what do we need to do it?

2021-10-06 Thread Neal Gompa
On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 1:50 PM Josh Stone wrote: > > On 10/4/21 12:12 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 3:07 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >> * How good is emulation support > > > > The lack of real hardware for RISC-V has made it so almost everyone is > > working with emulation. It's no

Re: RISC-V -- are we ready for more, and what do we need to do it?

2021-10-06 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 10:50:02AM -0700, Josh Stone wrote: > On 10/4/21 12:12 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 3:07 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >> * How good is emulation support > > > > The lack of real hardware for RISC-V has made it so almost everyone is > > working with emulation

Re: F34 Cloud Amazon AMIs unbootable after updates

2021-10-06 Thread Joe Doss
On 10/6/21 3:18 PM, Christopher wrote: Hi, Has anybody else noticed that the Amazon Public Cloud images for F34 (https://alt.fedoraproject.org/cloud/) no longer boot after the latest updates? I had an instance that I've been keeping up-to-date with dnf system upgrades and is now on F34, which i

F34 Cloud Amazon AMIs unbootable after updates

2021-10-06 Thread Christopher
Hi, Has anybody else noticed that the Amazon Public Cloud images for F34 (https://alt.fedoraproject.org/cloud/) no longer boot after the latest updates? I had an instance that I've been keeping up-to-date with dnf system upgrades and is now on F34, which is now unbootable after recent updates wit

Re: Onboarding package

2021-10-06 Thread Otto Urpelainen
Vít Ondruch kirjoitti 6.10.2021 klo 10.51: Dne 06. 10. 21 v 7:35 Otto Urpelainen napsal(a): Stephen Snow kirjoitti 5.10.2021 klo 15.39: we were initially discussing that it could be useful to have some package one can experiment with without being too much worried about the result. However, d

Re: RISC-V -- are we ready for more, and what do we need to do it?

2021-10-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 10:50:02AM -0700, Josh Stone wrote: > > The real hardware options do not have the performance to keep up with > > the other architectures. > Is it really so slow that emulation is preferable? Speed isn't the only concern -- in order to be reasonably manageable, we need this

Re: [CoreOS] Fedora CoreOS Community Video Meeting 2021-10-06

2021-10-06 Thread Dusty Mabe
On 10/5/21 5:53 PM, Dusty Mabe wrote: > Hi All, > > Tomorrow we will be holding a video meeting for the Fedora CoreOS community. > > Harshal Patil will be joining us to give a brief overview of how Fedora > CoreOS is used > for the e2e node tests in upstream Kubernetes. > https://github.com/c

Re: Onboarding package

2021-10-06 Thread Stephen Snow
On Wed, 2021-10-06 at 18:39 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: --snip-- > So it > seems we are in agreement with the `dummy-onboarding-` prefix  No, it should be something more appropriate like `entry-level-tutor-` or something equally as nuetrally offensive. Dummy is a very negative word with no value o

Re: RISC-V -- are we ready for more, and what do we need to do it?

2021-10-06 Thread Josh Stone
On 10/4/21 12:12 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 3:07 PM Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> * How good is emulation support > > The lack of real hardware for RISC-V has made it so almost everyone is > working with emulation. It's not realistic right now to work with real > hardware. > >> * Wha

Re: Joining the packaging group to become a co-maintainer - Was: Re: co/lead-maintainer sought: python-mailmerge (python)

2021-10-06 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 10:47 AM Brian (bex) Exelbierd wrote: > It appears that you are not yet a packager. I don't see a set of guidelines > for adding you as a co-maintainer in this case. I have changed the subject > of the email in hopes we can get an answer. In the meantime, consider > su

Joining the packaging group to become a co-maintainer - Was: Re: co/lead-maintainer sought: python-mailmerge (python)

2021-10-06 Thread Brian (bex) Exelbierd
On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 5:37 PM TItouan Bénard wrote: > Le lundi 04 octobre 2021 à 11:54 +0200, Brian (bex) Exelbierd a écrit : > > > > On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 6:48 PM TItouan Bénard wrote: > > Hi, > > I want to help you > > > Sweet. Onuralp replied via direct mail and I have added them to the re

Re: Onboarding package

2021-10-06 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 06. 10. 21 v 15:08 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 11:20:47AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 06. 10. 21 v 9:44 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 09:39:46AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 05. 10. 21 v 18:04 Stephen John Smoogen naps

Fedora-35-20211006.n.0 compose check report

2021-10-06 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Failed openQA tests: 6/204 (x86_64), 6/141 (aarch64) New failures (same test not failed in Fedora-35-20211005.n.0): ID: 1016323 Test: x86_64 Server-dvd-iso install_resize_lvm URL: https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/1016323 ID: 1016442 Test: aarch64 Server-

Re: co/lead-maintainer sought: python-mailmerge (python)

2021-10-06 Thread TItouan Bénard
Le lundi 04 octobre 2021 à 11:54 +0200, Brian (bex) Exelbierd a écrit : > > > On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 6:48 PM TItouan Bénard wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I want to help you > > > > > Sweet.  Onuralp replied via direct mail and I have added them to the repo as > well.  Can you work with them (or agr

Re: RISC-V -- are we ready for more, and what do we need to do it?

2021-10-06 Thread Justin Forbes
On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 12:03 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > > Hi all! I just got back from Open Source Summit, several of the talks I > found interesting were on RISC-V -- a high-level one about the > organizational structure, and Drew Fustini's more technical talk. > > In that, he noted that there's

Re: Fedora 💔 Java: The Death of Two SIGs

2021-10-06 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On Tue, Oct 5, 2021 at 1:27 PM Peter Boy wrote: > > > > > Am 04.10.2021 um 15:29 schrieb Mikolaj Izdebski : > > > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 2:08 PM Peter Boy wrote: > >> However, we lack concepts on how to proceed after removing java-maint-sig. > >> What consequences do we draw from the analyses?

Re: Fedora Maven? [was: Re: Fedora ? Java: The Death of Two SIGs]

2021-10-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 07:08:46AM +0200, Michal Srb wrote: > @Matthew Miller Are you still trying to save Fedora > from packaging the ocean? :) Oh, you remember. Yes. :) Let's do what we do really well, really well, and not do things where we're fighting against 99.% of all actual use both

Re: [RFC] Remove supoort for NIS(+) from PAM

2021-10-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 01:28:33PM +0200, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: > Yes, finally dropping the ypbind, yp-tools, and ypserv packages seems to > make sense in this context, as from my understanding they won't be of > any practical use anymore. +1. Time to say goodbye. -- Matthew Miller Fed

Re: Orphaned packages

2021-10-06 Thread Ben Beasley
I claimed libfakekey. I’ll modernize the spec file a bit and update it to 0.3 from https://git.yoctoproject.org/cgit/cgit.cgi/libfakekey/. On 10/4/21 18:20, Peter Robinson wrote: Looking through the packages I own there's a bunch I no longer use. I've tried to group these, from memory, where I

Fedora 35 compose report: 20211006.n.0 changes

2021-10-06 Thread Fedora Rawhide Report
OLD: Fedora-35-20211005.n.0 NEW: Fedora-35-20211006.n.0 = SUMMARY = Added images:0 Dropped images: 0 Added packages: 0 Dropped packages:0 Upgraded packages: 16 Downgraded packages: 0 Size of added packages: 0 B Size of dropped packages:0 B Size of

Re: ELN building packages in wrong order

2021-10-06 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 6:12 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 12:08:11PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > > On 06. 10. 21 11:29, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > >On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 10:25:42AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > >> > > >>https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/us

Re: Orphaned packages

2021-10-06 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 07:43:48AM -0300, Pablo Sebastián Greco wrote: > > On 4/10/21 19:20, Peter Robinson wrote: > >zram > I picked up zram This package is not harmful, but it's mostly obsoleted by https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/rust-zram-generator. Zbyszek

Re: Orphaned packages

2021-10-06 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 11:08 PM Gary Buhrmaster wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 10:21 PM Peter Robinson wrote: > > > I was going to ask people if they > > were interested in them but I decided to straight up orphan them so > > they#ll can go through the usual garbage collection process unless >

Re: Onboarding package

2021-10-06 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 11:20:47AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Dne 06. 10. 21 v 9:44 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): > >On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 09:39:46AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > >>Dne 05. 10. 21 v 18:04 Stephen John Smoogen napsal(a): > >>>On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 at 11:28, Matthew Miller

Re: Fedora Maven? [was: Re: Fedora ? Java: The Death of Two SIGs]

2021-10-06 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 8:50 PM Matthew Miller wrote: > > On Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 03:09:08PM +0200, Mario Torre wrote: > > I'm not sure what's the best solution, but I guess the number one > > reason to have packages within the Fedora distribution is for a matter > > of trust, if this is the case I

Re: Onboarding package

2021-10-06 Thread information
On 2021-10-05 10:35 pm, Otto Urpelainen wrote: Stephen Snow kirjoitti 5.10.2021 klo 15.39: we were initially discussing that it could be useful to have some package one can experiment with without being too much worried about the result. However, discussing this back and forth, we figured that

Re: [RFC] Remove supoort for NIS(+) from PAM

2021-10-06 Thread Alexander Bokovoy
On ke, 06 loka 2021, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: Am Freitag, dem 01.10.2021 um 09:31 -0400 schrieb Stephen John Smoogen: On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 06:14, Björn 'besser82' Esser wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm currently doing some experiments with replacing the - upstream > mostly unmaintained - pam_uni

Re: Fedora Maven? [was: Re: Fedora ? Java: The Death of Two SIGs]

2021-10-06 Thread Mat Booth
On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 at 11:02, Peter Boy wrote: > > > > Am 06.10.2021 um 07:08 schrieb Michal Srb : > > Hi folks, > > @Matthew Miller Are you still trying to save Fedora from packaging the ocean? > :) > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 9:10 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 8:49 PM Matthe

Re: [RFC] Remove supoort for NIS(+) from PAM

2021-10-06 Thread Björn 'besser82' Esser
Am Freitag, dem 01.10.2021 um 09:31 -0400 schrieb Stephen John Smoogen: > On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 at 06:14, Björn 'besser82' Esser > wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm currently doing some experiments with replacing the - upstream > > mostly unmaintained - pam_unix module (authentication with user > >

Re: Orphaned packages

2021-10-06 Thread Pablo Sebastián Greco
On 4/10/21 19:20, Peter Robinson wrote: zram I picked up zram ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/pro

Re: ELN building packages in wrong order

2021-10-06 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 12:08:11PM +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 06. 10. 21 11:29, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > >On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 10:25:42AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > >> > >>https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/userinfo?userID=5159 > >> > >>I noticed that ELN picked up the ~170 OCam

Re: ELN building packages in wrong order

2021-10-06 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 06. 10. 21 11:29, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 10:25:42AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/userinfo?userID=5159 I noticed that ELN picked up the ~170 OCaml packages that I just added to Rawhide in a single update. However it appears

Re: Fedora Maven? [was: Re: Fedora ? Java: The Death of Two SIGs]

2021-10-06 Thread Peter Boy
> Am 06.10.2021 um 07:08 schrieb Michal Srb >: > > Hi folks, > > @Matthew Miller Are you still trying to save Fedora from packaging the ocean? > :) > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 9:10 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 8:49 PM Matthew Miller > wrote: >>

Fedora-Cloud-34-20211006.0 compose check report

2021-10-06 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/8 (x86_64), 1/8 (aarch64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-34-20211005.0): ID: 1015863 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL: https://op

Re: Fedora 💔 Java: The Death of Two SIGs

2021-10-06 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 29. 09. 21 13:49, Miro Hrončok wrote: On 26. 09. 21 21:20, Fabio Valentini wrote: Should the @java-maint-sig group be removed from any packages it is still associated with? Should it be dissolved, and members be removed? Should the remaining ruins that used to be packages be orphaned? Retired

Re: ELN building packages in wrong order

2021-10-06 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 10:25:42AM +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/userinfo?userID=5159 > > I noticed that ELN picked up the ~170 OCaml packages that I just added > to Rawhide in a single update. However it appears to be building them > all at once which

ELN building packages in wrong order

2021-10-06 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/userinfo?userID=5159 I noticed that ELN picked up the ~170 OCaml packages that I just added to Rawhide in a single update. However it appears to be building them all at once which ain't going to work. Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat ht

Re: Onboarding package

2021-10-06 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 06. 10. 21 v 9:44 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek napsal(a): On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 09:39:46AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: Dne 05. 10. 21 v 18:04 Stephen John Smoogen napsal(a): On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 at 11:28, Matthew Miller wrote: On Mon, Oct 04, 2021 at 09:17:30PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via dev

Re: Fedora Maven? [was: Re: Fedora ? Java: The Death of Two SIGs]

2021-10-06 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 06. 10. 21 v 7:08 Michal Srb napsal(a): Hi folks, @Matthew Miller Are you still trying to save Fedora from packaging the ocean? :) On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 9:10 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 8:49 PM Matthew Miller wrote: >

Re: Onboarding package

2021-10-06 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 05/10/2021 18:04, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: So we need a real proposal with an end to end idea of what is being done, what is to be learned, and how it is to be 'watched' by real developers to make sure people are learning things. Maybe we can make a VM image (for KVM/qemu + VirtualBox) wi

Re: Onboarding package

2021-10-06 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 06. 10. 21 v 7:35 Otto Urpelainen napsal(a): Stephen Snow kirjoitti 5.10.2021 klo 15.39: we were initially discussing that it could be useful to have some package one can experiment with without being too much worried about the result. However, discussing this back and forth, we figured th

Fedora-Cloud-33-20211006.0 compose check report

2021-10-06 Thread Fedora compose checker
No missing expected images. Soft failed openQA tests: 1/8 (x86_64), 1/8 (aarch64) (Tests completed, but using a workaround for a known bug) Old soft failures (same test soft failed in Fedora-Cloud-33-20211005.0): ID: 1015731 Test: x86_64 Cloud_Base-qcow2-qcow2 cloud_autocloud URL: https://op

Re: Onboarding package

2021-10-06 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, Oct 06, 2021 at 09:39:46AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Dne 05. 10. 21 v 18:04 Stephen John Smoogen napsal(a): > >On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 at 11:28, Matthew Miller wrote: > >>On Mon, Oct 04, 2021 at 09:17:30PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > Is this really necessary? > >>>Yes. Bec

Re: Onboarding package

2021-10-06 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 05. 10. 21 v 18:04 Stephen John Smoogen napsal(a): On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 at 11:28, Matthew Miller wrote: On Mon, Oct 04, 2021 at 09:17:30PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: Is this really necessary? Yes. Because anyone can add something like this: %post rm -rf / And it will destroy t