g packages myself or via PRs. This will
> also include an update to the current matching PyMuPDF version, of
> course.
Thanks for doing this the right way! I'm happy to help if you need
provenpackager help rebuilding anything.
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is probably harder hit because
the aarch64 workers have slightly less storage bandwidth than the
x86_64 workers (6 disks per worker vs. 8 for x86_64). On the whole this
is all within manageable ranges, though.
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request to untag the liborcus bump:
https://pagure.io/releng/issue/12961
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*do*, but I've never tried it on a 3700 package side tag ;) It
*should* work, though, as it doesn't try to download all the packages
one at a time, or anything. It just adds the side tag repo to the test
config, everywhere we define repos.
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On Mon, 2025-09-15 at 10:06 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 15, 2025 at 09:47:53AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> >
> > Oh, if you think a side tag would be better I'm happy to defer to that
> > :) I just wanted to note I don't think the problems in
On Mon, 2025-09-15 at 09:25 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2025 at 10:25:17AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2025-09-12 at 11:43 -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > > ~3700 individual updates hitting Bodhi over a short period is almost
> > &g
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less the same load on Fedora CI I think (as it *mostly* tests at the
package level, not the update level). Only bypassing Bodhi entirely
would bypass Fedora CI.
openQA should be fine as it only tests critpath stuff, and much fewer
than 3700 of the update
racut-107-6.fc43 ?
Once Beta is done, there is no technical restriction preventing you
landing this before the Final freeze, but the policy is
https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fesco/Updates_Policy/#beta-to-final-freeze
, "The branched tree should now be stabilized and prepared for release.
M
GNOME showing
a warning for /boot being nearly full (these were webui install tests,
so they run on the Workstation live image). I "fixed" it by bumping the
/boot size used in the tests from 512MB to 1GB.
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> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Release_validation_test_plan
Note: 1.2 and 1.3 should be almost identical - 1.3 just restores the
ARM minimal disk image that was missing from 1.2. I will transfer
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e-desktop group in comps. However, I suspect
> other spins may also have been relying on this thumbnailer. This should
> be the only thing you need to do in order to ensure users don't notice
> the change.
Are there not Obsoletes: in place? If not, how is this expected to work
for GNOME u
On Fri, 2025-09-05 at 16:53 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 5 2025 at 02:30:43 PM -07:00:00, Adam Williamson
> wrote:
> > Are there not Obsoletes: in place? If not, how is this expected to
> > work
> > for GNOME users on upgrade?
>
> There are a b
On Fri, 2025-09-05 at 07:33 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 5 2025 at 12:51:52 AM -07:00:00, Adam Williamson
> wrote:
> > rmdepcheck unearthed something else that's apparently affected by the
> > F44 megaupdate:
> >
> > package: gnome-mine
affected by the
F44 megaupdate:
package: gnome-mines-48.1-2.fc43.x86_64 from
https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/repos/f44-build/latest/x86_64
rsvg-pixbuf-loader
that is, gnome-mines requires 'rsvg-pixbuf-loader', and that provide
has gone away in
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FED
t;this is some kinda picture" icon:
https://openqa.fedoraproject.org/tests/3696087#step/export/9
Not sure what's going on there, but since you mentioned thumbnailing it
triggered my memory...
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On Tue, 2025-08-26 at 00:30 +, Douglas Kosovic wrote:
> Hi Adam,
>
> On 26/08/2025 5:06 am, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > xl2tpd was retired due to lack of maintenance:
> > https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/xl2tpd/c/0ba0941b81fd53c0e33bdfa8e11744763c9c1aeb?branch=rawhide
desktops now fail to compose. As KDE is release
blocking, this means composes for both F43 and Rawhide fail entirely.
We need to resolve this somehow. Either somebody needs to pick up
xl2tpd, or we need to drop NetworkManager-l2tp from everywhere in comps
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nce they depend on one of the
> above packages: cloudcompare (-> vtk), opencv (-> vtk), gazebo (->
> opencv -> vtk)
It looks like the ppc64le illegal instruction thing should be cleared
up now, so I'll try rebuilding ncl and vtk.
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cosystem we somewhat vaguely
refer to as "Fedora CI" (we did an exercise once where we tried to
write down all the things that are part of Fedora CI, it was an eye-
opener). Cristian is part of the team handling that, so refer to his
response. I just wanted to clarify that Bodhi is not
yone
else, because we're where all the interface changes happen.
If the system doesn't handle this scenario sensibly:
* Submit a PR to libfoo that bumps its soname
* Submit a PR to bar-app to rebuild it against the new libfoo soname
* ???
* Profit
then it cannot be viable for Fedora. Broadl
g this a bit further:
>
> Is there any valid reason to push a commit to rawhide dist-git without
> building it?
Remember, it's not only about building. In this specific case that was
the issue, but we also have several problems of the type 'package was
built but failed ga
ss rebuild
> coming up (which is supposed to be a week before I think?).
In the package update guide, maybe?
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On Tue, 2025-07-29 at 02:33 +, Gary Buhrmaster wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2025 at 6:46 PM Adam Williamson
> wrote:
> >
> > Hey folks! I figured a wider heads-up about this might be useful.
> >
> > The owner of the "Dropping of cert.pem file" Change[0]
On Mon, 2025-07-28 at 11:22 +0200, Michael J Gruber wrote:
> Adam Williamson venit, vidit, dixit 2025-07-28 09:11:29:
> > On Sun, 2025-07-27 at 14:56 -0600, Orion Poplawski wrote:
> > > It had been prevented previously via bodhi gating:
> > >
> > > https://bo
On Tue, 2025-07-29 at 00:49 +0200, Miro Hrončok wrote:
> On 28. 07. 25 20:46, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > Mass rebuild changes bypass automated testing and gating
>
> This begs the question: Should we stop doing it that way?
>
> What if we let all the builds from mass rebuild
On Mon, 2025-07-28 at 15:33 -0500, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Adam Williamson said:
> > Please, *always*, only land significant changes when you are ready to
> > build and submit them as regular updates. In general, the delta between
> > what is currently in Rawh
sses tests, then do an official build, get it stable, and re-run all
failed tests. I'm hoping to have it done by end of day.
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>
> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=135370228
Please don't. I'm getting it untagged. We can't just rebuild everything
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man author's copyright would apply to
it. In that situation we may be violating their copyright by including
it, depending on the license.
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instance, https://github.com/avocado-framework/avocado/pull/6168 .
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On Fri, 2025-07-11 at 01:57 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Hey folks! Just a note about current openQA test failures for Rawhide
> updates.
Update on this: it should now all be dealt with. I put a short-term
hack in place yesterday and got most updates unblocked, and today
Justin did a
e's no
obvious common thread between all of those, and nothing juicy in the
logs. Operations just seem to stall or fail for no immediately obvious
reason.
There is one really gross hack up my sleeve - I can build the last
working kernel with an epoch bump and force it into openQA tests wi
On Fri, 2025-07-11 at 01:57 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> In the morning I'll see if fiddling with the openQA settings to use a
> different graphics adapter mitigates the problem, unless Justin's got a
> new kernel build through and it fixes the problem, or someth
the problem, unless Justin's got a
new kernel build through and it fixes the problem, or something. Until
then, F43 updates will likely fail gating. Sorry for the inconvenience
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> > On Wed, 2025-07-09 at 20:10 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> > > Chris Murphy writes:
> > >
> > > > I'm able to fix this with efibootmgr, but... what a
ot, and how great it is to have each boot stage
> signed by an all-mighty cert.
Nothing Chris wrote about actually has anything to do with Secure Boot,
really. It's just about how the UEFI boot manager works.
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ning them manually,
for instance.
Fedora automatically re-adds itself to the boot manager config if you
boot it via the fallback path, which is a very cool trick, but of
course won't work if Windows is occupying the fallback path.
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d MS cert and
install the old shim...
I don't know if this is *worth it* vs just advising people to turn off
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I don't know if this is *worth it* vs just advising people to turn off
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sometimes you do *have* to do this just to keep the site up - we have
blocked the entirety of Brazil from Fedora infra a couple of times so
far (since, as Jelle noted, for some reason a lot of this traffic comes
from Brazil) - but it's not exa
e issues with openQA tests at the point
Kevin sent this mail that resulted in some critical path updates being
stuck in gating. This should all now be resolved and all failed tests
are being re-run. Please yell if you still see any outstanding issues
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> On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 10:54:21PM +0100, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2025-06-25 at 22:09 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
> > > i686-linux is one of the few primary architectures for gcc
> >
> > Maybe it
On Wed, 2025-06-25 at 22:09 +0200, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
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Maybe it shouldn't be any more?
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> %{_datadir}/selinux/packages/%{selinuxtype}/passt.pp \
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the new golang, you should do 1). This needs to be co-ordinated with
the golang maintainer; the golang maintainer should build golang on a
side tag, so you can build kubernetes/cri-o on the same side tag and
create a combined update. That way we can be sure the updated packages
will g
lize you *actually* needed to do a multi-package side tag update,
you'll have to do a bump/rebuild. You can only 'escape' if you did the
build but didn't create an update (or have one auto-created).
Aside from that, though, Benson and Tom are right: after creating a
side
onsole, you can switch
> layout with alt+space.
>
> 3) In kmscon you're stuck with the Greek layout, I wasn't able to switch
> to the qwerty layout. So there is probably some fix to do there.
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Rawhide should be fine, but for ELN we might need to manually untag the
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> (as expected).
It did not go backwards in Rawhide, because openQA caught and gated it:
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2025-bbe387f037#comment-4067682
It only reached stable in ELN, because ELN has no gating,
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handling something potentially much more complicated and easier to get
wrong. It certainly seems to me like %autochangelog without
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package uses %autochangelog , even if it doesn't use %autorelease .
I guess I'll have to fix this up manually by creating a changelog file
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/FEDORA-2025-4a9607a2d0#comment-4066032
for details. It relates to the longstanding thing where we have a
polkit policy that lets wheel users install certain packages via
packagekit (but not dnf) without re-authenticating.
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are about the lowest thing on their priority list. So not much gets
done to them. Between the two teams we have a laundry list of stuff
we'd like to fix/improve in those tests, but it never happens due to
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o comma-separated layouts -
> > will expect to work.
>
> ok, I will run some tests, to see if this switch works in the userspace
> consoles. As they are all using xkb-common, I hope they will behave the
> same.
I *think*, with Wayland, it's the compositor's responsibili
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query localectl over dbus.
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or instance,
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2121106 was a fun one,
check comment #17 for lots of gory details!)
One thing that would need to be figured out is whether each of the
Wayland-based console implementations actually provides a mechan
On Wed, 2025-04-23 at 18:17 +0200, Jocelyn Falempe wrote:
> On 23/04/2025 18:01, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Wed, 2025-04-23 at 11:43 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2025 at 11:42 AM Adam Williamson
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
On Wed, 2025-04-23 at 11:43 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
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> > On Tue, 2025-04-22 at 11:51 +0200, Jocelyn Falempe wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I've packaged 3 userspace consoles, on my
hey run in userspace.
>
> * Kmscon: https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/jfalempe/kmscon/
> * Cage/foot or Gnome-kiosk/Ptyxis:
> https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/jfalempe/Userspacevt/
Do they use xkb keyboard layouts and configuration? Or kbd?
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> On 4/15/25 6:54 PM, Joe Doss wrote:
> > On 4/15/25 5:31 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > > I wouldn't necessarily assume you're both seeing the same bug. Also,
> > > this is very likely to be an upstream bug,
e added my log files and description to the bug.
I wouldn't necessarily assume you're both seeing the same bug. Also,
this is very likely to be an upstream bug, as we don't really do
anything much to USB support in the downstream kernel. It probably
needs to be reported upstream to the
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this is a case where it'd really be best not to diverge from upstream
if possible, so I'm continuing to argue with upstream over this whole
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et update exclusively to the
> sysusers.d functionality.
If you're not using sysusers, you're supposed/required to add the
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re%20a%20EPEL%20branch,the%20link%20to%20re%2Dreview.
A review request is not a Change proposal, they're entirely separate
things. But yes, if it's been retired for more than eight weeks, a new
review request is required before it can be re-activated.
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6_64 from advisory and
libcbor-0.11.0-3.fc42.x86_64 from rawhide
- cannot install the best update candidate for package
libfido2-1.15.0-3.fc42.x86_64
- cannot install the best update candidate for package
libcbor-0.11.0-3.fc42.x86_64
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please let me know.
>
> I might consider turning this into a change proposal for a next version of
> Fedora if there are no big downsides to changing this.
Off the top of my head, that would likely break if you have more than
one Fedora install, which is definitely a
er_Bug_Meeting
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real capabilities, and on the other, a Grand Vision with some extremely
heroic mooted timelines, and whenever I'm talking to someone about
Konflux I'm not quite sure which one I'm talking about.
So if the question is "when is the right time to build some container
ier today anyway, as it fixed an issue that was granted a
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omehow. AFAIK they currently don't. openQA certainly doesn't.
I've been working on https://github.com/fedora-infra/bodhi/pull/5859 to
help with this, but there turned out to be some subtleties that I
didn't have time to deal with yet (and then I went on vacation).
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> to a point where people can reasonably deploy it before considering it ready
> to be evaluated.
Well, you don't need to deploy it for yourself, really. There is a
public test Fedora deployment where you can play with it:
https://github.com/konflux-ci/community/blob/main/sigs/fedora
ck out
the SOP on the wiki:
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
Have a good weekend and see you on Monday!
[0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria
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you want to run one - check out
the SOP on the wiki:
- https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting
Have a good day and see you tomorrow!
[0] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Release_Criteria
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I expect that that'd get bounced back to FESCo anyway, so it probably makes
> > sense to do the PR and FESCo ticket in parallel.
>
>
> Thanks! Will take this to FESCO.
FWIW, I don't think we actually ran openQA gating through FESCo. I just
sent a proposal mail to various
starts doing it
too, but you guys get along, right? :D
I kinda prefer having a check on my work to just doing it myself.
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(I referenced the history of
builds being untagged in response to openQA testing when we turned on
Rawhide gating).
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t sure I'd want
to make greenwave accept multiple product_versions, it feels inherently
odd aside from this "they're really just different names for the same
thing" case.
Perhaps we could instead come up with some kind of 'alias' concept for
greenwave? I'
Fedora Engineering Steering Committee.
Well, that's not really true, is it? This has already been done for
F42. Why are things happening in this order?
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tps://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2346091#c3
I suspect what's going on is that patch -R -b does something a bit odd
in this case - it applies the patch *to the 'backup' file* not the
original. But that's just my guess as to how this can possibly be
happening, it definitely
;F10" in the first line because I typoed the edit from 40 to 41, and
nobody noticed...
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On Mon, 2025-02-17 at 21:22 -0500, Dusty Mabe wrote:
>
> On 2/17/25 1:35 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Mon, 2025-02-17 at 10:35 -0500, Dusty Mabe wrote:
> > > >
> > > > One more question: are packagers able to restart the tests?
> > &g
On Mon, 2025-02-17 at 11:06 +0100, Clement Verna wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Feb 2025 at 20:51, Adam Williamson
> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 2025-02-15 at 14:54 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 02:40:29PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > &
-trigger`. It's `true` for messages
published when "Re-Run Tests" is clicked, `false` otherwise.
If your scheduler triggers off `koji-build-group.build.complete`
messages and doesn't do anything special with the `re-trigger` key, it
probably works already.
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On Sat, 2025-02-15 at 14:54 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 02:40:29PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2025-02-14 at 16:31 -0500, Dusty Mabe wrote:
> > > IMO the bar would only need to be that high if the user had no way to
>
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