On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 02:04:56PM +0200, Jaroslav Reznik wrote:
This change is targeted at F21. For F20, we aim for having an experimental
GNOME shell Wayland compositor available, without necessarily having all the
surrounding desktop infrastructure ported. To avoid destabilizing the X
On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 08:57:27AM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
On Sun, 2014-04-27 at 23:02 +0100, Andrew Price wrote:
On 24/04/14 15:13, Lennart Poettering wrote:
We probably should make setjmp()-freeness a requirement for
all code included in Fedora.
Would it be worth the effort, and
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 05:55:29PM +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
Hello,
2014-04-24 16:38 GMT+02:00 Lukáš Nykrýn lnyk...@redhat.com:
We must keep initscripts support, but I can imagine a setup where every
service uses a systemd unit, so this part does not have to be installed by
default,
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 07:14:39PM +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
1) Changing the mechanism would not resolve any of the questions discussed
here.
Systemd is a bit cleaner to admin, and turning the service off wouldn't make an
oddity show up in rpm -qaV like moving a cron job aside would.
2)
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 07:44:58PM +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
There was a decision of not _migrating_ cronjobs to timer units yet. But I
think we should ban _introducing_ new cronjobs. Instead, new periodic jobs
should be introduced as timer units.
That's assuming all cron jobs should
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 09:08:48AM -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
Well I believe Ubunto has been using this feature for years and maybe we
should consider turning it on via systemd or a unit file. The breakage of AFD
is not a legitimate reason for Fedora to turn it off.
Why not add an LSM call,
binKWT8x6c21S.bin
Description: application/pgp-encrypted
msg.asc
Description: Binary data
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Ok, apparently Mutt is a bit stupider than I thought. Let's try this again.
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 02:20:04PM -0400, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
We already do,
Good.
but this protection does protect unconfined_t and for those who
Maybe we're ready to except a confined user by default. Something
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:52:40PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
rescue system. (that's why safety jackets use flashy unfashionable colors)
So we should make the boot loader use flashy unfashionable colors because it
makes it more reliable?
Ok that's silly, but it's also silly for safety
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 08:01:54AM -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
And the main lesson her is don't clutter the user interface with
useless graphical eye candy. It makes the boot process require
unnecessary system resources. The new Fedora installation setup is
currently a *nightmare*. It
On Sat, Feb 09, 2013 at 11:34:34AM +, Ian Malone wrote:
Gnome 2 slowly returned to the old behaviour in many ways. Gnome 3 is
starting to do this.
As someone who, I presume, does not like Gnome 3, and as someone who, I will
wildly guess, shares the notion that GNOME devs are doing
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:26:01AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 16:52:18 +0100,
Kamil Dudka kdu...@redhat.com wrote:
I have been always wondering why yum needs a special set of commands to
manipulate groups of packages. What would be the downside of using just
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 07:49:59PM +0100, Maros Zatko wrote:
I've used gnome 2.x, when 3.x came out I had no other option
than to (finally) switch to tiling since my beloved DE was gone
and not going back.
If you're the sort of person that wants a tiling window manager, then I think
it's fair
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 04:20:34PM -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
are not worth paying support for. I suggested to RedHat that they
provide a graceful switch-over to CENTOS in such case: it's possible
manually anyway, so it would be a nice gesture to do it
automatically for customers who let
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 09:28:16AM +0200, Alexander Larsson wrote:
I'm at a loss to how to proceed with the MiniDebugInfo work. I have
patches to rpmbuild that creates the compressed minidebuginfo putting
them in the main binaries, and I have patches to gdb that reads the
compressed debuginfo
On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 07:27:03PM +0200, Jan Kratochvil wrote:
On Thu, 24 May 2012 19:20:15 +0200, Casey Dahlin wrote:
Just go do it. See who actually shows up to stop you.
I am sure this is significant enough distro change to require FESCo decision.
Still cuts his workload down from
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:18:01PM +0100, Jos Vos wrote:
Hi,
I was looking for a tool to record X/VNC session in a movie and found
pyvnc2swf. But looking at the project's home page,
http://www.unixuser.org/~euske/vnc2swf/index.html, I see that the
development has been superseded by its
On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 04:17:08PM -0400, Martin Langhoff wrote:
For fedora users, as others have mentioned, perhaps a UI that lets
users test a couple of possible dpi values might be useful (for those
users so inclined). It does have to cross a good chunk of the stack to
work well, and seems
Orphan rubygem-rcov
Oh, missed that one. I'll definitely take that.
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On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 03:41:28PM -0400, Casey Dahlin wrote:
Orphan rubygem-rcov
Oh, missed that one. I'll definitely take that.
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On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 03:39:13PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
*snip*
Orphan userspace-rcu
I'll take that one.
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On Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 02:43:43PM -0400, Casey Dahlin wrote:
On Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 11:23:06AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
I no longer have a need/care for these packages, they are up for grabs:
contacts
inotail
I'll take inotail.
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Someone pointed out
On Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 11:23:06AM -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
I no longer have a need/care for these packages, they are up for grabs:
contacts
inotail
I'll take inotail.
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On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 07:05:59AM -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote:
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Jared K. Smith
jsm...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
It can be named... it's called the Super key. Well, at least mine
is super, as it has a Fedora logo on it :-)
That's a bad place for the Fedora
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 01:05:08PM -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote:
I think it fails on #1:
Makes it easy for users to focus on their current task and reduces
distraction and interruption
First, this point assumes that there is *one* current task. That is not
how I work. I have one main
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 02:12:54PM -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote:
One could do that, but that would be an idiotic thing to do. So one
doesn't.
Its what you said. You explicitly want to divide your attention between
multiple tasks. GNOME shell is for people who don't want to do that.
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On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 02:32:12PM -0400, Bernd Stramm wrote:
So Gnome Shell is not for a good many of the people who had been using
Gnome before that.
YES! I don't know why more people don't realize this: GNOME 2 was a
mediocre interface for a lot of people. It COULD NOT be a good interface
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 10:33:19AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
Uh, and even much healthier than Upstart, which you seem to be a big fan
of. Ohloh lists 3 patch authors. (But I figure that is out-of-date, it
cannot be that low)
I'm guessing its just ohloh having as much trouble operating
On Tue, Jun 07, 2011 at 03:12:19PM +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Tom Callaway wrote:
pyrit:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=691894
SARCASMOh great, because a tool to parasite wireless connections which the
owners went out of the way to secure with the best available protocol is
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 08:52:34AM -0400, Simo Sorce wrote:
On Thu, 2011-05-26 at 07:39 +0200, Alexander Boström wrote:
ons 2011-05-25 klockan 12:37 -0500 skrev Dennis Gilmore:
another issue that i thought of was existing ldap/nis systems that
allocate
regular users in the
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 04:23:00PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
That conclusion is based on the assumption that somebody pushes completely
broken stuff into Rawhide _knowingly_.
Or that they push unproven code into rawhide carelessly.
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On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 01:07:22PM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
X being broken in rawhide was in who knows how many peoples' ways, and
even though it's provenpackager+ and even though all it would have taken
was a mass driver rebuild, nobody even tried. Where _are_ you people?
Why do I bother
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 02:26:10PM -0500, Dan Williams wrote:
On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 19:21 -0400, Chuck Anderson wrote:
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 12:30:02PM -0500, Dan Williams wrote:
Looking at the code, the 4-second delay is only used when the device is
actually connected to something.
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 01:48:19PM -0400, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
With this approach, you have lost a critical feature: the ability for
you to change your hardware (or move the software bits to a different
computer) and have everything automatically work.
Nathaniel
You lose it for a
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 02:01:26PM -0400, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
On Tue, 2011-04-12 at 13:57 -0400, Casey Dahlin wrote:
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 01:48:19PM -0400, Nathaniel McCallum wrote:
With this approach, you have lost a critical feature: the ability for
you to change your
On Fri, Apr 08, 2011 at 09:25:31PM +0100, mike cloaked wrote:
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote:
On 4/8/11 12:14 PM, Christopher Aillon wrote:
Its the way we do it.
F13 is the earliest mention I can find mention of Beta RC on
devel-list. But that
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 03:51:37PM -0500, Genes MailLists wrote:
On 02/24/2011 01:32 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
There are no essential services, which means any proposal that contains
the phrase non-essential services is already unimplementable.
HID services (keyboard/mouse) might
On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 11:54:58AM -0600, Eric Sandeen wrote:
On 2/23/11 11:42 AM, Jesse Keating wrote:
On 2/23/11 5:00 AM, Josef Bacik wrote:
This would be a great thing in general since the default ext* image is
shrunk down to be installed which creates a bad fs layout which has
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 09:11:46AM -0800, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
On 12/22/2010 12:56 PM, Casey Dahlin wrote:
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 07:16:21PM -0800, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
This is from Paul Davis, the main architect of Jack (I forwarded him
your post):
this isn't
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 07:16:21PM -0800, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
This is from Paul Davis, the main architect of Jack (I forwarded him
your post):
this isn't exactly correct.
in /dev/shm on linux we have:
(a) unix-domain sockets for non-RT communication with the server
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:27:34PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Wed, Dec 15, 2010 at 07:21:25AM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
Jeez. Tha's just FUD. Of course we have discussed this openly with
various folks. We haven't discussed this with you, Rich, personally, but
well, I'll make
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 08:16:53PM +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
Casey Dahlin píše v Čt 16. 12. 2010 v 11:19 -0500:
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:27:34PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
What you don't understand is that you are throwing away the experience
and knowledge of thousands of Unix
Sizewise this didn't end up being an awful cost for me, but why on earth would
this happen?
Installing:
pdftk x86_64 1.41-27.fc14 fedora 76 k
Installing for dependencies:
bouncycastlex86_64 1.45-1.fc13fedora 3.3 M
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 03:19:35PM -0500, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Casey Dahlin wrote:
Sizewise this didn't end up being an awful cost for me, but why on earth
would
this happen?
Installing:
pdftk x86_64 1.41-27.fc14
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 04:27:48AM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:26:31PM -0500, Benjamin Kreuter wrote:
On Wednesday 17 November 2010 22:59:54 Matthew Garrett wrote:
Pretty sure it doesn't point them out. It just breaks them.
Using memcpy on overlapping ranges
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 06:26:27PM -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:15:38PM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
Well if you don't consider what Lennart mentioned [1] as a con against
usage of lvm by default what pros do you see for having lvm by default
for the
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 10:49:24PM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 11:28:33PM +0100, Karel Klic wrote:
Dne 15.11.2010 22:31, Matthew Garrett napsal(a):
Further, what's the licensing situation here? If I have an application
that (at runtime) is a mixture of GPLed and
On Thu, Nov 11, 2010 at 08:53:47PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Wed, 10.11.10 21:33, Bernie Innocenti (ber...@codewiz.org) wrote:
Hello Petr,
I ended up being the owner of mingetty by chance, because I used to
maintain it in the OLPC collection and the previous maintainer
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 09:03:25AM -0500, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:
On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 01:22:02PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 21:05 +, Camilo Mesias wrote:
I'm using the experimental 3d now with gnome shell. After a few days,
it seems like it performs OK
On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 01:44:19PM -0500, Brian Wheeler wrote:
And where does that sit in the architecture?
Looking over the architecture page (2nd figure) it looks like the only
way to get the kind of network transparency that X has under Wayland is
to put the network between the Wayland
On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 02:28:10PM -0500, Brian Wheeler wrote:
On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 14:24 -0500, Casey Dahlin wrote:
On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 02:14:32PM -0500, Brian Wheeler wrote:
On Tue, 2010-11-09 at 14:05 -0500, Casey Dahlin wrote:
On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 01:44:19PM -0500, Brian
On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 09:03:38PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Tue, Nov 09, 2010 at 01:43:06PM -0500, Adam Jackson wrote:
- We lose network transparency! Well, sure, the protocol doesn't have
that directly. You can still do vnc-like things trivially and with a
modest amount of
On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 10:57:27AM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
We want to ditch extremely useful, ground-breaking features because of
tearing when scrolling in a browser window? [I do *not* see any of
I actually read it as we want to ditch features that were groundbreaking in
1975 since
On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 11:12:09AM -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
On Fri, 2010-11-05 at 02:11 +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote:
Interesting move: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/551
Has anyone looked into bringing Wayland to Fedora? If not this might be the
right time getting
On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 11:36:53AM -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 17:13 +0200, Petr Lautrbach wrote:
Hello,
systemd will be default init system in Fedora 15 and scripts infrastructure
will be adapted to it.
There is a plan to leave upstart in Fedora as
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 08:04:48PM -0700, darrell pfeifer wrote:
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 18:26, Lennart Poettering mzerq...@0pointer.dewrote:
Heya,
I have just uploaded a new systemd and a new upstart package which make
systemd the default init system for Rawhide. The scheme I followed
On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 10:54:50PM -0500, Garrett Holmstrom wrote:
On 7/23/2010 20:26, Lennart Poettering wrote:
- You can boot into either of them by setting the init= kernel cmdline
option according to your wishes. If you pass init=/bin/systemd you
will boot into systemd, if you
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 03:30:05PM +0300, Manuel Wolfshant wrote:
On 06/15/2010 03:08 PM, Joe Orton wrote:
*snip*
Thoughts?
Well, I'd say it depends on how we define the start part. fire and
forget, start and make sure it was started or start and make sure
it is running.
I'd say fire
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 02:01:35PM +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 01:26:48PM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
The problem we've found is that cgroups are too aggressive. They don't
have a
notion of sessions and count too much as being part of your service, so
you
On Sat, May 08, 2010 at 01:10:18AM +0200, Xose Vazquez Perez wrote:
hi,
Long time ago, all *redhat* packages were renamed to system*.
But three of them are still alive: redhat-lsb, redhat-menus and
redhat-rpm-config
Should they switch to system- ?
-thanks-
I think s/redhat/fedora/
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