On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 02:32:41 -0800
Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 2:31 AM, Reindl Harald
h.rei...@thelounge.netwrote:
and who the hell is fixing security bugs for your Fedora 14?
a osversion with a lot of known security holes can not work
great by
On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 03:30:08 -0800
Dan Mashal dan.mas...@gmail.com wrote:
May I remind you that F14 is END OF LIFE? Sure I'd love for f14 to
continue getting updates. But it's not a long term support
release.
Dan
Huh!,
Please read your own posts back in order.
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On Sun, 9 Dec 2012 11:04:41 +0300
Peter Lemenkov lemen...@gmail.com wrote:
For those who doesn't bother reading this - stability vs.
innovation rant.
Tomas, why don't you just use/recomment stable distro?
Sometimes, you want innovation + stability.
I usually end up with xubuntu for those
On Thu, 29 Nov 2012 16:47:16 +
Sérgio Basto ser...@serjux.com wrote:
Hi,
I have two machines for test on at home and one at office , I want
upgrade to F18 Beta .
3 - Fedup , gives me a Traceback on transaction test. And don't let
me upgrade .
I used fedup earlier today, to
On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:09:53 -0500
Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 06:06:44PM +0100, drago01 wrote:
Thus are by definition not system administrators. There are not
supposed to be software developers but being able to deal with
simple code (shell
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 10:03:20 +0200
Onuralp SEZER thunderbir...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
http://fpaste.org/5mbi/
2 days ago It was just a libvirt package but now gnome and empathy
packages also broken too.
Not broken as such, just that not all
pkgs arrive in the repo, at the same time.
On 25/10/12 13:14, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 10:44:13AM +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
Time to move Motif from unpronounceable 3rd party repo into Fedora
and to consider rebuilding all lesstif-linked packages against it ;)
Are there any particular drawbacks to lesstif at
On 09/10/12 15:16, Lennart Poettering wrote:
journalctl -D pathtothejournalfiles
Lennart
Can journalctl send the logs via logwatch?
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On 24/09/12 07:33, Martin Stransky wrote:
https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/thunderbird-testers/2012-September/94.html
- Thunderbird 17ESR may be the last release created by mozilla
thunderbird developers, all next ones may be driven / developed by
community.
Worst case scenario:
if the
On 10/08/12 16:48, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
... neither does the base URL.
I may be missing something, but how do I move my Rawhide machine
to F18?
Rich.
koji as F18-repo.
Until the other repos get created.
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On 10/08/12 17:22, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
We are working to fix it.
In the mean time you can use baseurl:
http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/fedora/linux/development/18/
kevin
Thanks Kevin,
above working, forgot about baseurls :(
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On 20/06/12 18:55, Chris Adams wrote:
2G gets written and then -ENOSPC. 2G gets pushed to swap.
The default for tmpfs mounts is an fs that is sized to RAM/2.
What is the scenario,
where it's a KVM host and 3/4 physical ram is assigned to Guests?
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On 19/06/12 11:44, Bohuslav Kabrda wrote:
Hi all,
since Ruby/Fedora integration had some significant changes from F16 to F17, I
thought it might be a good idea to write a summary of new features and send it
out for all - see [1].
All comments and suggestions for further development are
On 19/06/12 11:50, Peter Lemenkov wrote:
2012/6/19 Frank Murphyfrankl...@gmail.com:
Would you be better to use an open format, not *.pdf?
PDF looks quite open to me
Cool, always thought it was closed.
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Current status
Targeted release: Fedora 18
Last updated: 2012-6-19
Percentage of completion: 40%
When would it hit rawhide, ballpark?
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On 18/06/12 15:56, Ben Rosser wrote:
ould seem like a better idea to me.
Hmm, okay.
In that case, would it be possible (or at least, a better idea) to
modify *grubby* to call grub2-mkconfig when the bootloader is grub2?
Then we'd still have all the other abstractions for other bootloaders
but
On 17/06/12 05:08, Ben Rosser wrote:
In Fedora 17, when you install grub2 and generate a fresh config file,
that config is produced by grub2-mkconfig. However, when you install a
kernel update, the kernel's entry is added to the grub2 boot menu by grubby.
This produces messy grub boot menus.
On 16/06/12 00:15, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
.fesco 868
#topic ticket 869 F18 Feature: Offline Updates using systemd and
packagekit -
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/OfflineSystemUpdates
.fesco 869
Not much use to Xfce users.
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On 17/06/12 17:17, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 17 June 2012 11:00, Frank Murphyfrankl...@gmail.com wrote:
Not much use to Xfce users.
Xfce doesn't have a native PackageKit client.
If you run the
gnome-settings-daemon updates plugin then it just works.
Not since F16. iirc
I don't
think
On 13/06/12 13:15, Roman Kennke wrote:
Ok, fair enough. The question remains, how can we avoid such bad things
to happen in the future? Should I regularily try out kernel builds on
their way to stable, and object to their stable-release when I find a
problem? And how would I do that? (I.e. how
On 03/06/12 21:26, Josh Boyer wrote:
In all cases I did not get an initramfs. In all cases these kernels will
not boot.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=826689
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=824981
I've had this a while, as discussed on test list.
I blame dracut,
On 02/06/12 14:40, Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus wrote:
Hi all,
is there an easy way to test packages except of using
$ yum --enablerepo=updates-testing updatepackage
Hopefully this may be a step in the right direction.
Have put in an rfe for Security as a yum config option.
I'm trying to follow up on struts,
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=239819
is the last mention I can see of it.
yum with *testing shows nothing.
How can I find if it's orphaned?
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On 16/05/12 17:36, Antonio Trande wrote:
Both packages are compatible with older versions.
Can we use them in Fedora 17 too ?
Currently using the rawhide pks in F17
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On 17/05/12 09:33, Zdenek Pavlas wrote:
So disable fastestmirror plugin before testing this,
would be the way to go?
The fastestmirror plugin does some initial mirror sorting.
We mostly ignore this, so disabling fastestmirror makes sense
but is not strictly necessary.
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On 16/05/12 17:07, Zdenek Pavlas wrote:
- new mirror selection algorithm
This should be more accurate than measuring latencies in
fastestmirror plugin, but slow mirrors now have to be tried from time to time,
and the statistics need some time to build up.
So disable fastestmirror plugin
On 04/05/12 09:35, Jan Synacek wrote:
Hello list,
I'm looking for as many logwatch runs in Fedora 16 as possible. I need to test
the F17 package so I know if there are any problems with compatibility.
Typo?, or you want to run the F17 pkg in F16?
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On 04/05/12 10:47, Jan Synacek wrote:
On 05/04/12 at 09:38am, Frank Murphy wrote:
On 04/05/12 09:35, Jan Synacek wrote:
Hello list,
I'm looking for as many logwatch runs in Fedora 16 as possible. I need to test
the F17 package so I know if there are any problems with compatibility.
Typo
On 04/05/12 09:35, Jan Synacek wrote:
should last 24hrs
http://fpaste.org/yH9I/
http://fpaste.org/aOLp/
http://fpaste.org/Lpbn/
http://fpaste.org/c9FR/
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On 04/05/12 12:54, Reindl Harald wrote:
Am 04.05.2012 13:48, schrieb Frank Murphy:
On 04/05/12 09:35, Jan Synacek wrote:
should last 24hrs
http://fpaste.org/yH9I/
http://fpaste.org/aOLp/
http://fpaste.org/Lpbn/
http://fpaste.org/c9FR/
you noticed your Date Range Processed: all
On 27/04/12 11:16, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
* Provide a way to permanently disable accessibility features for
those who don't need them.
Rich.
I don't have an accessibility menu on Xfce F17 or Rawhide.
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On 26/04/12 18:50, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
Is it possible to upgrade now from F16 to F17 with preupgrade?
Has anyone tried to preupgrade from F16 to F17? Are there any problems
related to UsrMove (or anything else)?
I did it two days ago.
No problems KVM Guest GPT formatted.
On 25/04/12 03:46, Brendan Jones wrote:
I fully agree. We need to help the design team out,
Agree, give ideas
Drop the name
but lets vote on a theme
No,
I think it should all be left to the design them.
(with advice from legal, if necessary)
Not in a let them do the work, but more of a
On 25/04/12 17:51, Adam Williamson wrote:
which venerates the cow
Ah, now Adam,
As bad as she is you can't be calling anyone a cow ;)
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On 25/04/12 19:25, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Wed, 2012-04-25 at 18:58 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
On 25/04/12 17:51, Adam Williamson wrote:
which venerates the cow
Ah, now Adam,
As bad as she is you can't be calling anyone a cow ;)
Er...wha?
I thought you were calling the cow a cow.
Which
On 25/04/12 19:43, Adam Williamson wrote:
I...no, I was referring to cows. You know. The things which have four
legs, go moo, and dispense tasty, tasty milk.
Ah right, we call it the fridge.
Goes rrr every so often.
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On 24/04/12 13:59, Ian Malone wrote:
More practically, the problem with names in Fedora is that they're
selected and voted on with little connection to anything else,
.
I think the real problem, offended people aside.
Is nobody uses the names to refer to a fedora release.
Witin @fpo lists its
On 24/04/12 16:24, Steve Clark wrote:
Hello,
I am trying to access EPEL but download.fedoraproject.org only gives me
a blank screen
try dl.fedoraproject.org
Can't help you with the other error.
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On 18/04/12 12:47, Mark Bidewell wrote:
After trying the F17 Alpha with no success, I tried the F17 Beta. I
installed in the VMWare Fusion Technical Preview
F17 Beta Xfce.x86_64 spin,
Happily ran on F16.x86_64 host,
and installed just dandy.
firewalld service by default.
But OT for this
On 23/04/12 14:21, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 04/23/2012 03:06 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 09:58 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
Why isn't adding a link to an explanation to avoid misunderstandings
originating from conotations sufficient anymore? This is at least what
had been
On 23/04/12 14:36, Mark Bidewell wrote:
I think it has as much to do with the names as anything else. Ubuntu
names are short and easy.
But their numbering is crap.
12.04 ?
Fedora names tend to be more obscure Lucid
or Precise makes more sense than Zod or Beefy (forget the fat
distro
On 23/04/12 14:46, Seth Vidal wrote:
But their numbering is crap.
12.04 ?
To be fair their numbering is:
YY.MM
So 12.04 means April, 2012
-sv
But, are you going to say in converation
Yes, I'm using Ubuntu release twelve zero four,
or Lucid
Does anyone know the full two words sans
On 23/04/12 14:50, Tomas Radej wrote:
But their numbering is crap.
12.04 ?
April 2012
My point exactly, name fits better in their scenario.
Ah Jules, are you on April or October,
tweleve, I believe?
Me ducks for cover.
ame from...).
I didn't know Jules Verne was superman's nemesis.
On 23/04/12 16:50, Tomas Radej wrote:
I think numbering/naming problem is only about the target audience.
That's just it, most Fedora non-geek users, use numbering.
You see it on the mailing list(s) daily.
Rarely do you see a Fedora N by it's name.
I didn't know Jules Verne was
On 23/04/12 20:34, Jerry James wrote:
I haven't been able to boot the last 3 Rawhide kernels,
Have I done something wrong, or are the recent kernels busted?
Check your dracut version:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=814625
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On 22/04/12 18:04, Nikos Roussos wrote:
I'm wondering if there is a grub option to force gpt for anaconda.
Unsure, I've always formatted as GPT (if applicable) before install.
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On 12/04/12 00:39, nomnex wrote:
http://freeplane.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
Will there be a Freeplane package available on the F17 repository ( Is
there a Freeplane Fedora package maintainer)?
I am using Freemind 0.9 on F15. It is not without problems.
Thank you
iirc, it was
On 12/04/12 08:54, Caterpillar wrote:
Which problems do you have with freemind? Maybe I can check and confirm
or not
Not *freemind*, but freeplane.
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On 12/04/12 09:00, Aleksandar Kurtakov wrote:
I am using Freemind 0.9 on F15. It is not without problems. from the very
first mail in the thread.
Alex
My bad.
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On 04/04/12 11:38, Mike Manilone wrote:
Hi there,
I think if there's a Graphical Rescue Mode (GRM),
This can be done with install dvd,
troublshoot recsue installed system
chmod /mnt/sysimage (iirc)
startx
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On 04/04/12 12:13, Mike Manilone wrote:
On Wed, 2012-04-04 at 12:05 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
This can be done with install dvd,
troublshoot recsue installed system
chmod /mnt/sysimage (iirc)
startx
If there's a grub entry will be more user-friendly.
Only if they then know what to do
On 03/04/12 07:52, Gilboa Davara wrote:
Any chance of building a personal repository for F17 or better yet, F16?
- Gilboa
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/xfce/2012-April/001082.html
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On 03/04/12 08:13, Gilboa Davara wrote:
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Frank Murphyfrankl...@gmail.com wrote:
On 03/04/12 07:52, Gilboa Davara wrote:
Any chance of building a personal repository for F17 or better yet, F16?
- Gilboa
On 03/04/12 11:57, Thomas Spura wrote:
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Gilboa Davaragilb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Frank Murphyfrankl...@gmail.com wrote:
Hence my reply.
*Sigh*
Then better look here:
On 03/04/12 20:47, Gilboa Davara wrote:
You somehow assume that I was too lazy to read the supplied link
Why the *Sigh* then?
giving you some god-given-right to police this ML by spamming my
You did, by Sighing
mailbox with repeated useless (and rude) comments.
For the record:
1. I read
On 10/03/12 12:22, Reindl Harald wrote:
something is broken in /etc/init.d/network
first my (minimal) obfuscated configuration
last block are strange error-messages from /var/log/messages
after systemctl restart network.service
for which component should i file a bugreport?
only
On 05/03/12 10:37, Petr Pisar wrote:
Even bellow
export regulations which nobody reads.
I do.
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On 27/02/12 12:04, Josh Boyer wrote:
snippedy snip
You also forgot to add:
1) A proposed alternative
2) Patches to fix any of the issues you pointed out
3) Anything constructive at all in your ramblings.
+ quite a lot.
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On 27/02/12 13:52, elison.ni...@gmail.com wrote:
snipped
Alternative 2 :
Make the following changes to yum to make yum better:
1) yum should maintain status of installed packages locally. And it
should not need to fetch repository information when user tries
yum infoinstalled-package
Reason to
On 15/02/12 10:18, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
So? Should we drop all features that aren't bug free after feature
freeze?
Yes. We've forked f17 and you guys are still chasing elementary bugs.
What do you expect Fedora users to think of this? It communicates a nice
impression of the quality of your
On 14/02/12 11:05, Camilo Mesias wrote:
Is there a smolt-like solution that wouldn't
be unpalatable to many? It would surely be better than relying on
out-of date and questionable polls. I'd be happy to be counted as
using Gnome shell on several systems.
-Cam
How would you gauge it,
Smolt
On 10/02/12 12:13, Matthias Runge wrote:
My point was: If everybody does it, why don't we do it? Comparable to:
1000 flies can not be mistaken, shit must be great.
They're sowing Mushrooms.
Which people fry, boil, smoke. ;)
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option would be to tell people
use the steps for yum upgrade
untils /convertfs is done.
I don't know which q, I tried to answer with what.
As parts of them intertwine with each other.
This from an average user.
Who doesn't look under the bonnet too opten.
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On 06/02/12 09:27, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
Hi,
I noticed that F17 is based on the latest stable glibc realease.
Previously development Fedora version was based on development glibc.
I'm guessing Branched in a couple of days, would need some stability.
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Does rd.convertfs have to stay on /etc/grub.cfg
Shoule we adjust /etc/dracut.conf add_extramodules=convertfs
Apologies if, it's only me that doesn't understand.
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On 03/02/12 16:11, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
From:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Schedule
2012-02-07 Branch Fedora 17 from Rawhide-- Branch Freeze
kevin
Do we then use that with our /usrmove test boxes.
Or is Branched to be kept with current-rawhide boxes?
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the /usrmove.
There is a symlink:
/lib/foo /usr/lib/foo2
and a hardlink was created before the move.
/usr/lib/foo /usr/lib/foo2
Would the /usrmove script
replace the hardlink with the softlink?
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On 02/02/12 12:42, Rex Dieter wrote:
Would the /usrmove script
replace the hardlink with the softlink?
no.
-- rex
Thanks Rex,
Unfortunatly I'm not a scripter.
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Anything to be aware of?
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/f17-usrmove/latest/$basearch
enabled=1
metadata_expire=1d
gpgcheck=0
# yum clean all
# yum upgrade
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of /usr*
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no problems booting.
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together and write up a wiki page / detailed proposal, answering:
+100
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check upstream,
to see what plans they have for it,
or ask on fedora kernel list.
They may have some advice to give.
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read ot the release notes.
This may be beerter served ,with the people who look
after the nVidia packages on rpmfusion.
As it seem to have to be an unloadable module.
Open to corrction.
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On 26/01/12 11:37, Henrique Junior wrote:
Did we have someone to lead this process?
possibly the op
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problems.
Will a howto be ready for those going from F17-Rawhide\F16+
to F17-Branched. If /usr is ready by then.
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or upgrading his entire system.
Because of this he has returned to developing on OS X which handles
the Ruby upgrade.
Supported by Fedora or Ruby?
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wasn't worried about Fedora supporting his Ruby.
He could have used rvm to keep updated.
ditto Ubuntu.
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be a simple icon\theme missing.
For tesing\Rawhide post to: test list
In either case say what you have done\tried,
relevant logs.
Are you in a position to run a seriel console.
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Plan ahead, and the body will look after itself.
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the work page.
What skills\experience do they bring to your sig.
Will it bring in extra heavy-lifters,
or further dilute the current pool.
If one or two leave, will there be egg.
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release means that individual components can be updated as
soon as they release upstream.
I've been doing this a while,
F16 yum --releasever=17 update --bugfixes --exclude=fedora-release*
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attended meetings about meetings.
Where all it takes is, I'll do it, John\Jane Doe might help
and return with your prototype\iteraion.
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throw an error.
So no idea.
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On 24/01/12 14:31, Frank Murphy wrote:
How can the --bugfixes possibly work when there are no updates
metadata in Rawhide?
Michal
We'll it doesn't throw an error.
So no idea.
Apologies forget paste link:
http://fpaste.org/IvtS/
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On 24/01/12 16:21, Johannes Lips wrote:
YAWN!
Please don't, I've got Narcolepsy.
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On 24/01/12 20:52, David wrote:
A question please? Two related ones actually.
What are you going to name your rolling Linux release? And when can we
expect to see it?
:-) notice this.
Rooling rooling rooling Rawhde
):)(
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, some conclusions.
1: Hardware physical\virtual requirements.
2: Infra, expansion of
3: Talk to the other distros.
There is more I could say on this, but it's late.
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the md5sum of the
downloaded .iso, before you burn it.
Not the problem,
the user feels the burned media, should match the iso.
I tried to explain, it's difficult.
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the md5sum is stored), if
that check is successful, you can trust that the burning went fine.
I hope I understood your question correctly and this answer helps you :)
It two roughly polar opinions, I've received.
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(running) since Sat, 21 Jan 2012 15:35:19 +; 19s
ago
Main PID: 22801 (cupsd)
CGroup: name=systemd:/system/cups.service
└ 22801 /usr/sbin/cupsd -f
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As far as I can tell there is no md5 embedded in the download.isos
But not getting into too much detail,
there is a user who is convinced there is.
quote
However there is an md5sum
check somewhere in the installation cd
/quote
Can someone put me or the user right?
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straight to installation.
Does it only check for read problems though,
or does it verify that whats on the media matches the iso?
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some.external.place
has been opened,
Please keep an eye on that bug for progress.
Closing this bug CLOSED-UPSTREAM
I believe you can look at external trackers,
without having to sign up.
I just tested with KDE, which is not installed.
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On 13/01/12 11:46, Jim Meyering wrote:
Just a heads up.
Ran into it yesterday:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2012-January/105084.html
Thought it was systemd update from day before,
but maybe it's the selinux\policy update.
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On 13/01/12 18:03, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
policy to fix the problems.
selinux-policy-3.10.0-74.2.fc17 is in Koji if anyone wants to try it
out and see if they can successfully boot in enforcing mode.
works with enforcing.
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