On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote:
I noticed that the revelation security update was not pushed to stable.
It is now 91 days old, which makes me suspect that Jef is somehow
hindered to take care of it:
Here's the problem with that update it breaks
On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 2:57 PM, Jeff Spaleta jspal...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Here's the problem with that update it breaks existing revelation
setups for people because of the gconf schema change.
I'll add that the additional wrinkle is that once you move to the new
version, it updates
i need NOT to reset your expectations because if i would
start to expect that it is mordern everywhere to replace working
things with new stuff which is NOT READY i should throw
away all my computers and search a job in a church
Well you do what you feel is best for you. Working at a church
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Karel Zak k...@redhat.com wrote:
because
really that is exactly what you want to do on your system. If our
mount command will still attempt to write to /etc/mtab once its a real
file again, maybe things will work for you as expected.
No. systemd is not
hey Lucas,
Can you point me to the on system manpage and docs for
console-kit-daemon which is running be default on my F15 install? I
can't seem to find the documentation.
From my reading about available systemd roadmapping for systemd-logind
in the context of upstream systemd development
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 5:43 AM, Lennart Poettering
mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote:
On Wed, 20.07.11 11:06, Nicolas Mailhot (nicolas.mail...@laposte.net) wrote:
I am not sure what precisely you need but systemd actually supports
instantiated services. For example, getty@.service is instantiated 6
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 3:29 AM, Nicolas Mailhot
nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote:
I don't think someone would have written all the 'find a free port, create a
new workdir, etc' logic in the tomcat script if just 'copy and change settings
in the init file' was scaling for his use. After all,
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Doug Ledford dledf...@redhat.com wrote:
Unfortunately, I was told I should remove the systemd support in
particular, so I did. Glad to hear it worked for you though ;-)
You mean in F15? Or do you mean in rawhide as well?
Id be interested in using unofficial
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
sorry, but this does not intesrest endusers
please don't speak for me.
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On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:37 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
if you do not understand me:
if have no problem with WORKING replacements
but i have A HUGHE problem with things that should solve
problems nobody sees and brings a lot of new ones
I have no problem with you speaking
Just because shell scripts are familiar doesn't make then easier.
Shell scripts can be quite quite fragile. Collectively as admins
we've grown very attuned to dealing with shell semantics good and bad.
None of us who are deeply familiar with shell can You easily assess
the relative merits of
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:51 AM, seth vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
I agree with one section of your argument:
arguments which are just I'm not used to this are bad arguments.
Many of the arguments presented in this and other threads do not boil
down to that. If you believe them to
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Fulko Hew fulko@gmail.com wrote:
From what I understand, I will now have to provide some systemd
application that is coded in C?
If that is the case, I now have to create an RPM per-architecture
and loose my architecture independence.
I do not believe you
2011/7/19 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com:
Hum best is to provide you with example which daemon do you maintain I can
convert it for you and provide it to you as an example anyway here's an
example of a systemd unit that I converted sometime ago for a know
application named tomcat6
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Stijn Hoop st...@sandcat.nl wrote:
In other words, why should the package tomcat6 not provide a
better /usr/bin/tomcat6 binary (or shell script, or whatever) that
can work out on its own whether to multi-instantiate?
In this case the executable in question is
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Jeff Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com wrote:
In this case the executable in question is in fact a bash script that
appears to be a distro-specific enhancement...but an upstream
deliverable.
sorry that should read... but not an upstream delivarble... that _not_
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:33 PM, Nicolas Mailhot
nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote:
All this code is here just to instanciate the service and do the related
housekeeping. It does not belong in a separate script any more or less
than the rest of the sysv stuff. That example just shows the sysv
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Simo Sorce s...@redhat.com wrote:
Some daemons cannot be fixed, get over with this mantra that daemons
need be fixed Lennart.
If I were a betting man I'd wager that all the daemons we ship are
easier to fix than the US deficit (in both the technical sense
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 12:42 PM, mike cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote:
I guess the process can be started - but by the time it is ready for
prime time then any daemons that need to work should have been tested
to work without the need for any /etc/sysconfig/... files - just by
the way
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Lennart Poettering
mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote:
This is not really about packaging, more about writing unit files. Since
unit files are intended to be included upstream this is better discussed
on systemd-devel.
There is some benefit in making it possible for
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 1:57 AM, Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com wrote:
Adam, Adam, Adam ;) it's this one in updates:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libreport-2.0.4-1.fc15
Is there an open ticket about the report package that needs to be
bumped to get this cleaned up. It seems
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Jiri Moskovcak jmosk...@redhat.com wrote:
- I was afraid, that it would be against some Fedora policy ;) Then just
the rawhide..
Okay if this isn't coming to F15, can you provide the sufficient
instructions on how to revert the libreport packages from F15
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com wrote:
Actually I'd prefer to know how to move forward to the new way ...
run rawhide!
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On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Jeff Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Jiri Moskovcak jmosk...@redhat.com wrote:
- I was afraid, that it would be against some Fedora policy ;) Then just
the rawhide..
Okay if this isn't coming to F15, can you provide
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
Probably not, but I wouldn't say they're equivalent. I don't think many
people expect their desktop to have a screen recorder built in. I can't
think of any other desktop that _does_. When I said Shell was fully
mouse
For context on the change in mtab behavior please read over the
upstream util-linux mailing list discussions concerning /etc/mtab.
I would suggest you start your review of discussion with this thread from 2007:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.file-systems/15576/focus=15594
-jef
On Mon,
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:29 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
For more 'advanced' users, the keyboard shortcuts are there, and you're
probably going to want to use them if you don't want to gnaw your own
legs off out of boredom. No, they're not particularly discoverable: it's
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
That's a pretty unique example. It's really not core desktop
functionality; it's an easter egg, really. I think it was initially put
in purely for the use of GNOME PR / documentation people, and left in
because it
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 5:21 AM, Ralf Corsepius rc040...@freenet.de wrote:
... you mean by holy ghost intuition, feel tempted to press a key to
access a hidden feature, where once was a simple feature?
The question really isn't whether or not to make use of the newer
keys. The real question is
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 6:48 AM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
Jeff Spaleta (jspal...@gmail.com) said:
If you want to pick up maintainership for istanbul let me know. I'm
going to be retiring this package in about a week.
What's the preferred screen recorder these days (outside
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 6:42 AM, Jared K. Smith
jsm...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
It can be named... it's called the Super key. Well, at least mine
is super, as it has a Fedora logo on it :-)
That's a bad place for the Fedora logo... just like its a bad place
for the Windows logo. What is
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 7:17 AM, Lucas macach...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear All.
Since Fedora 13 I am trying to replace my old OpenSuse 11.1 with Fedora and
always failed.
The problem is I can't use my laptop LCD picture. After about 20-30 minutes I
feel eye strain.
Have you looked at
On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:42 AM, Lucas macach...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks a lot for your advice, I will play with it.
The advanced gnome-clock based support for location is busted in
gnome3 but the manual lat/lon settings work fine. If you don't want
it to transition from day to night color
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:25 PM, drago01 drag...@gmail.com wrote:
Well you can't expect him to test every possible scenario (no matter
how trivial it is). I never saw an fstab with a trailing slash so I
wouldn't have though about testing it either.
Same here. I actually spent a good chunk
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 5:32 AM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
i think this would be a good idea
PHP (my main language) is fighting with traling slash or not troubles
over all the years, but there is nothing to stop the boot-process and
systemd is a very different level of
On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 6:32 AM, Orcan Ogetbil oget.fed...@gmail.com wrote:
I understand the inconsistency and it is indeed a bug in mount.
Nevertheless you are missing the point. If X worked before (X=mounting
at boot with fstab containing trailing slashes), and stops working now
because
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 6:11 AM, Neal Becker ndbeck...@gmail.com wrote:
Sounds interesting:
http://digitizor.com/2011/05/12/ubuntu-11-10-lightdm/
Public discussion background see this thread:
http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2010-October/msg00226.html
Specifically:
On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 8:41 AM, Camilo Mesias cam...@mesias.co.uk wrote:
So, reading between the lines, is it fair to say that Ubuntu seem to
have chosen a display manager to avoid dbus and consolekit?
I don't think the available information supports any such conclusions
concerning
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Jonathan Corbet corbet...@lwn.net wrote:
Could it be that Fedora lacks the resources to maintain both Rawhide and
the next-release branch? In retrospect, was No Frozen Rawhide as good an
idea as it seemed?
I need to redo my tongue-n-cheek seasons of rawhide
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Orion Poplawski or...@cora.nwra.com wrote:
I'm going to be building netcdf 4.1.2 for rawhide (F16) shortly. This has a
soname bump. I'm happy to rebuild dependent packages if you'd like.
Also, is there any interest in trying to get this into F15 at this
It's that time of year again. I'm heading off to Antarctica again,
which means I'll effectively be unavailable to do any meaningful
Fedora related work.
Since I went through this last year, most if not all of my packages
should have coverage with existing co-maintainers. I'll be checking in
which
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 6:06 PM, BJ Dierkes wdier...@5dollarwhitebox.org wrote:
That is exactly right.
reading over the instructions on the pypi page for cement.devtools
explicitly tells people to easy_install cement prior to
easy_install'ing cement.devtools, so I wanted clarification as to
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@redhat.com wrote:
While I'm looking into the git setup and ACLs and all this, I have a
question.
Is anybody seeing any real value of having different commit ACLs per
Fedora branch? I've seen some argument for EPEL vs Fedora, but is there
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 8:12 PM, Matt Domsch matt_dom...@dell.com wrote:
Note that I am not advocating keeping these packages unfixed. I wanted
to point out that things might turn ugly and might even trigger an
avalanche when you remove the FTBFS packages from the repo and then
the packages
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 2:39 AM, BJ Dierkes wdier...@5dollarwhitebox.org wrote:
Hello all,
Just to be clear... PyPI has an implied one source requirement
embedded in its repository structure and you have optimized your
upstream project release structure to meet PyPI's implied requirement.
Just to be clear this is F14 updates testing you are referring to?
-jef
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Dave Jones da...@redhat.com wrote:
Wtf happened in updates-testing ?
gdm and a bunch of other stuff crashes on startup..
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On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:16 PM, Jon Masters jonat...@jonmasters.org wrote:
Did anyone upstream look into a compatibility environment variable that
could be exported to change the direction of the memcpy? Yes, it's a
hack, but it would allow affected users to have an option.
Could we make use
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 1:08 AM, Fulko Hew fulko@gmail.com wrote:
I know the definition for memcpy (on Linux) says don't use overlapping
regions but thats really a poor excuse for knowingly misbehaving when
it could certainly prevented. Sorry, but using 'optimization' as a defense
is just
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
denni...@conversis.de wrote:
Then why are people already calling for the rejection of Wayland even
though Wayland is still far from being finished and hasn't even touched
Fedora yet.
raising concerns != screaming the sky is falling
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com wrote:
OK, so it's likely that everything will just continue to work
remotely, and people won't experience any problems. And they won't
have to run VNC just to get their favourite app to display remotely.
If this had been explained
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Felix Miata mrma...@earthlink.net wrote:
Actually there is. When someone files a good bug, as opposed to one that
requires more than trivial attention due to significant missing or invalid
information, achieving fixed status is an informal statement that the
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:09 PM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
denni...@conversis.de wrote:
No. I'm sorry but it's fundamentaly unfair to hold me responsible for the
behaviour of others. If you think this shouldn't have been brought up fine
but if others decide to draw premature conclusions from this
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Richard W.M. Jones rjo...@redhat.com wrote:
What's the implication for people who absolutely need to use
X applications remotely?
I believe the idea for the overall plan is that the traditional X
server grows the ability to be a Wayland client and that any
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
Saying 'oh dear, this might not work, we'd better not try' is rarely a
good approach, IMHO. It's better to try things, with the proviso that
you accept when they aren't working and withdraw or modify them.
I would agree
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:00 PM, alekc...@googlemail.com wrote:
There is nothing about GRUB2 in Installation Guide
I'm not sure why there would be an expectation that their would be.
Fedora doesn't use Grub2. There are many possible bootloaders that
could be on a system. Do we mention any of
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:32 PM, alekc...@googlemail.com wrote:
Fedora 14 Installation Guide have some mention about GRUB2
but it is still not clear is anaconda capable to detect it.
http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/14/html/Installation_Guide/s1-x86-bootloader.html
There is one
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Evan Dandrea e...@ubuntu.com wrote:
You can follow the path to the different desktop CDs from here:
http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/download
The alternate CD can be found under the alternative downloads link,
with an explanation that it is suited
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Evan Dandrea e...@ubuntu.com wrote:
I honestly have no idea.
Hmm. That's unfortunate. It appears from the web pages that the
preferred way to get the alternative images is the torrent ticket (as
it appears ahead of the mirror urls). If users are meant to bump
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 12:46 PM, Jeff Spaleta jspal...@gmail.com wrote:
The low activity on the Ubuntu torrent server generally really leaves
me scratching my head as to how to evaluate the applicability of the
alternative image approach.
Just to provide some closure on this. I watched
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Mike McLean mikem@gmail.com wrote:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=626209
Reported against F13, but I've encountered it in F14 Beta.
Seems like more folks ought to be impacted by this bug that seem to
be, so I wonder what is going on here. Do
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 10:55 AM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote:
Or just have the download page provide a link to List all download
options
this exists now in multiple forms on the
http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora page
In the central frame More download options... right under
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Gregory Maxwell gmaxw...@gmail.com wrote:
I would expect that the i686 install will remain the most common so
long as that is what the Fedora project promotes.
I wouldn't. We can actually look a little deeper at some of the
download stats and take the concept
2010/9/20 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com:
Setting up official backport repo will avoid repos fragmentation.
Another repository/branch inside Fedora infrastructure does not
automatically avoid the any of the potential problems that you would
want to lump into repo fragmentation. You'd have
2010/9/20 Michał Piotrowski mkkp...@gmail.com:
Yes. Most users don't care about libfoo 1.6.54 - libfoo 1.7.0 upgrade.
It's cool if you have strange problems with PgPool
You understand that what you have just describe is not easily wrapped
into a self-consistent policy right? There are
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 7:57 AM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote:
It just so happens that app-install does just that.
The question isnt should app-install exist. The question is does it
interact with our package management system as a source of metadata
information in the right way that
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:31 AM, Nils Philippsen n...@redhat.com wrote:
I like this. We also need black helicopters.
Surely blue helicopters.
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On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 3:56 PM, James Laska jla...@redhat.com wrote:
Much like we introduced and communicated btrfs support in F-11, should
we communicate systemd as a technology preview in Fedora 14?
I would agree with this. I certainly plan to run F14 with systemd in
anticipation of seeing
2010/9/14 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com:
Should gnome-shell and every other feature fall under technology
preview and stay like that for sometime as well before becoming the
default or does this just applied to certain features maintained by
certain people. . .
I'm making lemonade
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote:
A patch would be lovely, but some sample code that renders a ttf file
to a png file The smart brown fox or whatever using cairo is
probably good enough for me to get going.
Just to be clear. When users want a to get a
On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 10:07 AM, Alex Hudson fed...@alexhudson.com wrote:
I know fonts come in RPMs, but tbh as a user I could really care less.
I'm not disagreeing. But since fonts have come up in the context of
app-install.. I'd like to hear what the main PackageKit developer
thinks about fonts
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:39 AM, Jesse Keating jkeat...@j2solutions.net wrote:
An update that changes behavior for the end user would never be
acceptable as an update to a stable release. Only severe exceptions
should be made to this rule, where the time/effort to backport the
important fixes
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:57 AM, Jon Masters jonat...@jonmasters.org wrote:
Things like Firefox, and Thunderbird have large external teams
maintaining them who appear to have goals around ensuring a consistent
user experience, with testing, and so forth, over and above just getting
new
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:34 AM, Emmanuel Seyman
emmanuel.sey...@club-internet.fr wrote:
Same goes for programs that scrape web pages (I'm thinking of gcstar but
I'm sure there are others). If the page layout changes, the page scraper
needs to be updated and that usually involves updating the
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
That's gross. (I realize you're blocked on the sites you rely on, but
geez, can't you find sites with real APIs?)
It is what it is. Though I do like being given credit for doing
development work that I'm not actually
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Bill Nottingham nott...@redhat.com wrote:
It is not meant to be a complaint at you or a request for you to do more
work. It's a complaint at the state of the world. (Why not find the
biggest windmill of all to tilt at?)
I didn't mean for you to think it was a
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Jon Masters jonat...@jonmasters.org wrote:
Again, I feel it is necessary to have a survey of Fedora users.
Preferably annually. And listen to the feedback. If they say yep, we
just love the churn, the number of updates and so forth, then fine. If
they say
On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Bob Arendt r...@rincon.com wrote:
Actually I think Fedora *should* articulate who the users are, basically
design and express who and what Fedora is designed for.
snip
I think it would be much better for Fedora to decide what it *should* be,
specifically what
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Jon Masters jonat...@jonmasters.org wrote:
Great. It works fine on a laptop, in general. But on a
desktop/server/workstation that is connected for weeks at a time (like
mine), I don't want to have to do clicky buttony stuff just to make my
network work.
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think anyone can generalize that the usage of Fedora is
declining. What we can prove, and certainly is troublesome, is that
yum check-ins of successive releases have been dropping by a couple
percent each
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
That would likely be a bad idea. Mandriva did something similar a few
years back, before I left, and it was pretty unpopular and often
confusing for users. I lost count of the number of times I explained how
to change
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Till Maas opensou...@till.name wrote:
Nevertheless, imho it should not be used to develop infrastructure for Fedora,
because people involved in Fedora might not want to use it, because it is not
FOSS.
The less-than-clear-future roadmap for Wave as a service
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 10:20 AM, David Malcolm dmalc...@redhat.com wrote:
Personally, I'm leaning towards option (a) above (the don't override
warnings option): closing the various as WONTFIX, and adding a section
to the release notes, whilst working towards fixing this in Fedora 15.
Affected
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 4:24 PM, David Malcolm dmalc...@redhat.com wrote:
Sorry about this.
You don't know how sorry! You've made it onto my Christmas Card list.
Which means I send you a live puppy in the mail COD overnight delivery
for Christmas day to your place of work. Now you have a
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Matěj Cepl mc...@redhat.com wrote:
Everybody was bitching about CVS for years,
I'm pretty sure I wasn't. But I'll still pile on with a +1 for the
switch over to git
-jefgetting git to compile on qnx is no funspaleta
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On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
Erm, what complaint? That it's dead? I've never heard that one before.
Mostly, people seem to complain when it gets changed, not when it
doesn't.
The gods of irony are pleased indeed.
However, this maybe a case where
On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 11:21 AM, seth vidal skvi...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
As opposed to leaving off a ; which NEVER happens.
I never happens.. if you always use left handed emoticons -;
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On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 5:27 PM, David Malcolm dmalc...@redhat.com wrote:
Current status: 114 failing builds
http://dmalcolm.fedorapeople.org/python-packaging/failures-2010-07-26-02.html
See also the notes on:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/Python_2.7#Current_status
Many of these
On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
revelation (okay, okay, i'm sneaking this one in because *i* depend on
it :)
I depend on it to and it needs a complete overhaul and an upstream
reboot. Want to help me start an effort to reboot the upstream? It
really
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Lennart Poettering
mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote:
Looking at what Windows and MacOS do in this area is probably
healthy. Both systems rearrange sectors on disk and parallelize as much
as possible. I think that's bascially a good recipe we should follow
too.
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Horst H. von Brand
vonbr...@inf.utfsm.cl wrote:
Great to know about that. And yes, it is extremely relevant for a sysadmin
to know how to tickle the system so it spits out awk(1)-able logs and stuff.
Hmm... can these tools learn to prefer a certain format
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Stephen John Smoogen smo...@gmail.com wrote:
I have seen this done with a couple of GNU tools in the past. The
problems that usually stopped this was that too many strange consoles
seem to be a pipe at somepoint and so it spits out the wrong format at
the wrong
2010/7/21 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com:
Admins will need to know that they have to use chkconfig for services that
do not have a native systemd $service file. ( legacy for services )
And as the general rule goes native configuration breaks legacy
configuration so if a native
2010/7/21 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com:
There is an RFE for the same compatibility from chkconfig #616857 as in
chkconfig will try to use systemd native files first and spill out a
deprecation warning or just spill out deprecation warning hinting users (
Written in C patches
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:45 AM, Lennart Poettering
mzerq...@0pointer.de wrote:
We can add similar code to chkconfig too: something that warns the admin
when a native systemd unit file exists, and then redirects the command
properly. It is now on my todo list, but not even near the top of the
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote:
I just want to see changes in a backwards-compatible way whenever it is
practical. I understand that that is not always the case, but I don't
see anything here that indicates systemd and the long-standing
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Jonathan Underwood
jonathan.underw...@gmail.com wrote:
On 21 July 2010 12:12, Adam Williamson awill...@redhat.com wrote:
Thanks, but afaics that thread doesn't really answer any of my
questions, it's just a bunch of yum technicalities about how the
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:02 PM, David Malcolm dmalc...@redhat.com wrote:
I'm planning to do a partial mass-rebuild for Python 2.7.
Please, when you hit build failures, and you will if you can
provide a link to a failure report that is easily searchable(if not
sorted by) primary package
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Przemek Klosowski
przemek.klosow...@nist.gov wrote:
Every file outside of this 'core examples' set could print the message
This example's functionality may depend on the specific configuration
of matplotlib and other packages. Even better, could it be in some
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Przemek Klosowski
przemek.klosow...@nist.gov wrote:
If you kill all of them you'd get rid of the ones you suggested for a
legit AutoQA tests.
Yes I would. And I'm okay with that. Since there been no work done to
identify any scripts yet there's no real work
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 5:17 AM, Michel Alexandre Salim
michael.silva...@gmail.com wrote:
The signal-to-noise ratio in Bugzilla has definitely dropped since
ABRT is introduced. Newer versions do require some text to be inserted
before it will submit the bug report, but perhaps it has to be
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