-0400, Matt McCutchen wrote:
On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 09:38 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
The practical point is that F12
is about to go EOL which means the bug must be closed...
Why? Obviously it needs to be clear that nothing further should be
expected from the maintainer unless
On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 12:29 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 14:01 -0400, Matt McCutchen wrote:
What you're really saying is that most maintainers want to work from a
list of unexpired bugs. But there are ways to achieve that other than
marking all the expired bugs
On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 13:54 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
Hum, I didn't realize our resolutions were so customized, I thought they
were the upstream ones; this is what I've been told when discussing
custom resolutions in the past. It's certainly something you could
propose as an enhancement by
On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 15:43 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Fri, 2011-09-02 at 18:33 -0400, Matt McCutchen wrote:
We clearly
want to bugs to be CLOSED, not open with a quasi-closed keyword or
whiteboard field.
I'm not sure who we is, but I disagree. The generally accepted
On Sat, 2011-03-12 at 16:06 -0800, Christopher Aillon wrote:
On 03/12/2011 04:33 AM, Kalev Lember wrote:
I believe it should be fixed with glibc-2.13.90-6, but the update is
currently stuck in Bodhi with 7 karma and not getting pushed even to the
requested updates-testing repo:
On Thu, 2011-01-27 at 21:05 -0500, Jean-Marc Pigeon wrote:
Let be straight and simple (package name doesn't
matter here)
1) Spec file say version: 1.2.3
2) sources file say tar file: 1.0.0
sources as included in git and generated
by fedpkg
On Mon, 2011-01-24 at 14:02 -0500, Bill Nottingham wrote:
I believe folding any requirements for %posttrans scripts into
'Requires(post)' should be sufficient.
I don't think so... IIUC, Requires(post) only applies until installation
is complete, but a %posttrans script also runs following
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 15:54 -0800, Brad Bell wrote:
I have a case where a package is noarch and it provides pkg-config support.
The problem is that pkg-config expects a noarch file corresponding to
the package to be stored in
${_libdir}/pkgconfig
and rpmlint complains that
On Thu, 2011-01-13 at 10:42 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
There is the case that when
we switch to the branch, your last used state is behind or ahead the
local index (that is the cached metadata the repo has about the state of
each branch upstream).
Please call it the remote-tracking branch
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 13:52 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Tue, 04.01.11 21:31, Matt McCutchen (m...@mattmccutchen.net) wrote:
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 14:11 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
Of these being used, dbus is correctly implemented, since it randomizes
the socket name. Same
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 16:35 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Wed, 05.01.11 09:39, Matt McCutchen (m...@mattmccutchen.net) wrote:
That's precisely what I want to tell people: don't use the abstract
socket namespace, unless you really know what you do. The only cases
where it really
An aside:
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 11:12 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote:
(And of course what we're doing here is protecting against a malicious
attacker who already has enough privileges to run code on your system,
which means you're pretty far into having already lost. Meh.)
I've seen this
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 15:25 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 13:38 -0500, Matt McCutchen wrote:
The
more significant DoS condition is another user taking the name you want,
which can happen in the abstract namespace but not in a directory only
you can write.
I don't
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 16:13 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote:
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 14:10 -0500, Matt McCutchen wrote:
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 11:12 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote:
(And of course what we're doing here is protecting against a malicious
attacker who already has enough privileges to run
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 16:37 -0500, Daniel J Walsh wrote:
[XDG_RUNTIME_DIR] does not exist until after the User has logged in. X
starts before
the user logs in. Also multiple users need to be able to talk to same
xserver.
On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 16:47 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote:
atropine:~%
On Tue, 2011-01-04 at 14:11 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
Of these being used, dbus is correctly implemented, since it randomizes
the socket name. Same for gdm.
The relevant point is not randomness or unguessability, but that dbus
chooses an available name and passes the actual name being
On Thu, 2010-12-23 at 09:11 -0800, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
On 12/22/2010 12:56 PM, Casey Dahlin wrote:
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 07:16:21PM -0800, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote:
(a) unix-domain sockets for non-RT communication with the server
Perhaps these could become abstract
On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 16:15 +, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2010-12-20 at 22:57 +0100, Henrik Nordström wrote:
* implemented by only a change in yum dependency resolution to use
fallback repositories (i.e. updates-testing).
I don't think that would be a good change, as it's
On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 16:45 +, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 11:24 -0500, Matt McCutchen wrote:
On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 16:15 +, Adam Williamson wrote:
it would seem to make more sense, to me, to configure bodhi to re-try
the build, with updates-testing repo enabled
On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 22:10 -0500, Tom Lane wrote:
I'm fooling around with trying to update mysql from 5.1.x to 5.5.x.
One of the things that's happened in that transition is that they've
dropped the separate libmysqlclient_r.so library --- presumably
everything in regular libmysqlclient.so is
On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 18:38 -0500, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Matt McCutchen wrote:
On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 13:20 -0500, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Chris Adams wrote:
That makes the push process much more fragile/difficult. If you use
On Mon, 2010-12-20 at 21:55 +0100, Henrik Nordström wrote:
Suggestion on how to express this in the packaging process:
BuildRequires with a version requirement pulling in from updates-testing
if the required version can not be satisfied from the stable repository.
I don't like this. I would
On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 01:29 +0100, Henrik Nordström wrote:
mån 2010-12-20 klockan 18:12 -0500 skrev Matt McCutchen:
That will work, assuming the user has permission to do the tagging; it
is essentially a buildroot override in reverse. So the question is just
what we want to optimize
On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 11:08 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Lets step back a bit here as I think this thread is drifting.
What issue(s) is this proposed change trying to solve?
* The OP talked about that we are not 'testing' the update entirely
because it's not in the buildroot, so we aren't
On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 18:32 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
* we are building packages against the known-to-be-broken package
The old package is already in stable. We're not doing additional harm
by building against it unless the breakage is a regression that
affects the building of dependent
On Fri, 2010-12-17 at 13:20 -0500, Orcan Ogetbil wrote:
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 11:03 AM, Chris Adams wrote:
That makes the push process much more fragile/difficult. If you use a
updates-testing build of package A, and package B (that depends on
package A) gets rebuilt, then you may have a
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 09:28 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 10:03:30 -0600
Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote:
Once upon a time, Stanislav Ochotnicky sochotni...@redhat.com said:
Note that I am not saying things should go into buildroot as soon as
they are built, but as
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 17:49 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 12/16/2010 05:28 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 10:03:30 -0600
Chris Adamscmad...@hiwaay.net wrote:
Once upon a time, Stanislav Ochotnickysochotni...@redhat.com said:
Note that I am not saying things should go
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 18:33 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 12/16/2010 06:26 PM, seth vidal wrote:
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 18:13 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
Just a thought: How about equipping a repo's metadata with some sort of
expiration/best before date, which yum etc. could use to warn
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 18:54 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 12/16/2010 06:43 PM, Matt McCutchen wrote:
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 18:33 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 12/16/2010 06:26 PM, seth vidal wrote:
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 18:13 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
Just a thought: How about
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 18:11 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 12/16/2010 06:00 PM, Matt McCutchen wrote:
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 17:49 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 12/16/2010 05:28 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 10:03:30 -0600
Chris Adamscmad...@hiwaay.net wrote:
Once
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 20:16 +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
Casey Dahlin píše v Čt 16. 12. 2010 v 11:19 -0500:
On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 12:27:34PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
What you don't understand is that you are throwing away the experience
and knowledge of thousands of Unix system
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 12:14 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
On 12/16/10 10:29 AM, Matt McCutchen wrote:
(BTW, it seems that a custom tag would generally be better than a
buildroot override for the reasons we are discussing even if there's
only one dependent package, unless that would put some
On Thu, 2010-12-16 at 12:28 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
On 12/16/10 12:22 PM, Matt McCutchen wrote:
An alternative approach would be to mirror the semantics of tag
inheritance by having builds use multiple yum repositories, possibly
with priorities, instead of explicitly computing
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 16:15 -0500, Jon Masters wrote:
On Wed, 2010-12-15 at 22:25 +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote:
Files marked as documentation must not cause additional dependencies that
aren't satisfied by the package itself or its dependency chain as it would
be
if none of its files
On Tue, 2010-12-14 at 14:07 +, Paul Johnson wrote:
Hi,
My main box decided to snuff it last week (motherboard and processor
decided to fry). My erstwhile friend in the computer shop I use has
said that he has a nice 64 bit processor and motherboard going for a
small amount of money.
On Fri, 2010-12-10 at 15:06 +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
Adding CLONE_NEWPID would be worthwhile to stop the
mock process seeing any other PIDs on the machine.
It's critical, or mock could ptrace some process running as root on the
host and inject arbitrary code.
--
Matt
--
devel
On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 10:54 +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
On most desktop systems firewall is not needed. Many users do not even
know how to configure it. In fact I disable it in most of my systems,
because there is no real use for it. So I asked a simple question
whether there is a need to
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 00:38 +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
Cron - but should be activated only when cron files exist
It seems to me that the list:
- ssh
- Dbus
- syslog
- iptables
- ip6tables
- auditd
- restorecond
is an absolute minimum to get working system.
I don't agree that ssh
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 01:07 +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
2010/12/7 Matt McCutchen m...@mattmccutchen.net:
On Tue, 2010-12-07 at 00:38 +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
Cron - but should be activated only when cron files exist
It seems to me that the list:
- ssh
- Dbus
- syslog
On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 17:57 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 10:54 +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote:
There are no stupid questions :)
On most desktop systems firewall is not needed. Many users do not even
know how to configure it. In fact I disable it in most of my
On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 14:17 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
[...] I think we need to be
careful of the mindset that says 'we can't enforce any standards in
Fedora because it's a volunteer project so we must just accept what
people are willing to give us'.
Even though packaging in Fedora is a
On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 15:59 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
I'm not sure I'd want to go quite that far unless the sign-up process
can wave the proven testers instructions in your face quite prominently.
They're short and easy to read and understand, but you can't infer them
from first
On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 20:29 -0600, Dennis Gilmore wrote:
libgnome-java failed to build
http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=2638084
I took a look out of curiosity, and this appears to be an intermittent
problem that occurs when two instances of install(1) try to write to the
same
On Sun, 2010-11-28 at 15:13 -0800, John Reiser wrote:
This patch (with .rpms for x86_64 and i686) enables glibc optionally
to detect, diagnose, and work around overlap in memcpy/mempcpy:
http://bitwagon.com/glibc-memlap/glibc-memlap.html
What is the mass addition of commented curly braces
On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 16:08 -0800, John Reiser wrote:
On 11/29/2010 03:44 PM, Matt McCutchen wrote:
What is the mass addition of commented curly braces for? It is
distracting from the substance of the patch.
Those comments enable parenthesis matching in some text editors.
The scoping
On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 23:09 +0100, Jan Kratochvil wrote:
Oh, I forgot, Fedora no longer delivers the fix in a day but ... even not in
a week. Because I usually create new build during the updates-testing week so
the days start to count again.
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 16:32 +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote:
Dont we have an upstream mantra to uphold...
Forward all Fedora users and otherwize that experience this to Adobe..
If we are going hack around this on our side where are we going to draw
the line..
Are we planning to
On Sun, 2010-11-14 at 14:07 -0500, Matt McCutchen wrote:
On Sun, 2010-11-14 at 10:38 -0800, John Reiser wrote:
On 11/13/2010 03:41 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
Anyway, I think LVM is jolly useful:
[stated advantages snipped]
One design error is that you cannot carve out
On Sun, 2010-11-14 at 13:07 -0800, John Reiser wrote:
When I created 14 partitions using a DOS partition label
(3 primaries, plus extended containing 10 logical partitions)
and gave 6 of the partitions to an LVM setup,
then I could not remove one of the partitions from the clutches
of the
On Sat, 2010-11-13 at 14:22 +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 10:21:30AM +0100, Till Maas wrote:
The documented issues do not seem to be as bad as a system being
exploited. It is only about dependency breakage or services not working
anymore. There is no major data
On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 19:44 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
From a practical point of view, as a bug reporter, when I get mass
notifications to update scores of bugs that were opened years ago, and
that the people owning the component never bothered to respond on (even
to confirm they were
On Thu, 2010-11-04 at 09:38 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
The practical point is that F12
is about to go EOL which means the bug must be closed...
Why? Obviously it needs to be clear that nothing further should be
expected from the maintainer unless/until the version is bumped. But
the
On Sat, 2010-10-30 at 14:03 -0800, Javier Prats wrote:
Where is this info kept on the install image and how would I go about
modifying it locally to start playing? I'd like to learn whether some
one else does this or not.
It's in anaconda. The / and /home specifications are here (line
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 13:11 +0200, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
I tend to disagree, as including both Iceweasel and Icedove in addition
to Firefox and Thunderbird gives users, admins and especially those that
maintain a remix the option to easily chose the solution that suites
their needs best.
On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 23:45 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Firefox is NOT an
essential package, the GNOME spin could just ship Epiphany (GNOME's default
browser) instead, and other desktop spins ALREADY ship the respective
desktop's default instead of Firefox!
Epiphany is still not serious
On Thu, 2010-10-14 at 01:48 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Petr Sabata wrote:
I've been thinking about packaging dwm [1] since we already ship dmenu and
dzen2. I wonder if anybody would be interested in this fine window manager
(except for me).
I think it's completely unreasonable to package
On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 19:37 -0400, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote:
I noticed that ethtool is not in the default install anymore [...]
mii-tool.
The mii-tool man page claims it is deprecated in favor of ethtool. In
fact, neither
On Mon, 2010-10-04 at 04:30 -0500, Rex Dieter wrote:
I've tagged docbook-utils-0.6.14-25.fc14 (the update reportedly fixing this)
for the buildroot. Please try your builds now.
f14-build should appear in the Tags line here, right?
https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=197223
On Fri, 2010-10-01 at 08:13 +0530, A. Mani wrote:
sigil is not available from yum
http://code.google.com/p/sigil/
It is easy to install from source on F
You can add it here:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/WishList
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Matt
--
devel mailing list
On Fri, 2010-09-24 at 14:48 -0430, Guillermo Gómez wrote:
Why is this happening?
rubygem-state_machine-0.9.4-3.fc12 unsuccessfully untagged from
dist-f12-updates-testing-pending by bodhi
Operation failed with the error:
koji.TagError: build rubygem-state_machine-0.9.4-3.fc12 not in
On Fri, 2010-09-24 at 16:50 -0400, Matt McCutchen wrote:
On Fri, 2010-09-24 at 14:48 -0430, Guillermo Gómez wrote:
Why is this happening?
rubygem-state_machine-0.9.4-3.fc12 unsuccessfully untagged from
dist-f12-updates-testing-pending by bodhi
Operation failed with the error
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 17:19 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
There are times when static linking is a useful. Robert clearly
describes one in his original post.
Only because we do not (yet) have a good per-user package manager to
make installing the required dynamic libraries, or assembling a
On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 17:06 +0100, Robert Spanton wrote:
I've recently had to link a fair amount of my work statically so that
it'll run on a cluster of RHEL machines. Unfortunately, I am just a
user of these machines, and so I don't have the power to get them to run
Fedora or even to get the
On Sun, 2010-09-05 at 23:57 -0400, Braden McDaniel wrote:
Thanks. Now, how do I get fedpkg to preserve it? I see (when doing
fedpkg mockbuild):
INFO: Cleaning up build root ('clean_on_failure=True')
So, where do I set clean_on_failure to False?
In /etc/mock/site-defaults.cfg or
On Thu, 2010-09-02 at 09:17 -0600, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Thu, 2 Sep 2010 12:18:26 +0300 (EEST)
Juha Tuomala juha.tuom...@iki.fi wrote:
Has it been disabled recently?
Short answer: Yes. It has.
Longer answer:
FESCo looked at trying to use voting data to give us an idea on 'hot'
bugs
On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 14:20 +0200, Nils Philippsen wrote:
On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 20:47 -0400, Matt McCutchen wrote:
On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 17:36 -0700, Roland McGrath wrote:
Perhaps local and so forth could be given a --dist=foo switch, and these
sorts of errors could say can't figure out
On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 10:06 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
On 9/1/10 9:01 AM, Garrett Holmstrom wrote:
Andreas Schwab wrote:
Matt McCutchen m...@mattmccutchen.net writes:
I propose that fedpkg should consider a --dist option, a branch
file, and the name of the current git branch
On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 11:01 -0500, Garrett Holmstrom wrote:
Andreas Schwab wrote:
Matt McCutchen m...@mattmccutchen.net writes:
I propose that fedpkg should consider a --dist option, a branch
file, and the name of the current git branch in that order.
Or make it a branch config (eg
On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 22:08 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
Developers put new features in rawhide knowing that they will be in the
next release of Fedora, which would be at the /most/ 6 months from the
time they drop the feature.
It's more like 9 months. A feature has to wait until the next
On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 08:19 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
Fedora gets to build and ship a slightly-modified version of Firefox while
retaining the Firefox name due to a distribution partner agreement with
Mozilla. Mozilla gets their money from Google. I don't think we *can* make
it something
On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 08:27 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
It doesn't seem to be an unavoidable requirement, it says:
If you proposed Start/Home Page is not similar to the existing Firefox
Start Page, please be prepared to provide a rationale for the change,
and how it would benefit the
On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 16:30 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 17:20:23 -0400,
Al Dunsmuir al.dunsm...@sympatico.ca wrote:
Please do not ignore that the browser is there for the user to use,
not for Fedora to stream information in spite of the user's wishes.
Nor
On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 22:14 -0400, Steve Dickson wrote:
When I do a:
git push --dry-run origin origin/master:refs/heads/f15/user/steved/pnfs-f15
To ssh://ste...@pkgs.fedoraproject.org/kernel
* [new branch] origin/master - f15/user/steved/pnfs-f15
which appears to do what I want.. but
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 14:13 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
On Sun, 29 Aug 2010, Manuel Escudero wrote:
3) We're already using a GOOGLE SEARCH BOX!! in
http://start.fedoraproject.org/ ¿Do you have the code for this one?
NO. And Fedora Project is using it. I'm sharing a Fedora Solution an
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 15:07 -0500, Manuel Escudero wrote:
AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN... http://start.fedoraproject.org/ is using
a Google Search Box... YOU DON'T HAVE THE CODE TO PLAY WITH IT OR
ANYTHING... With Fedora's engine I'm giving you the chance of having
something more opensource
On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 02:46 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
On 08/30/2010 01:01 AM, Matt McCutchen wrote:
Interesting. I can understand not wanting to promote a proprietary
search engine on the Fedora start page, but if the idea is that Fedora
users and contributors should be able to avoid
On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 09:49 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Matt McCutchen wrote:
I think that's precisely the concern. In the event that F14 goes back
to upstart, the final release will use a configuration that may not have
received much testing.
Don't Do That Then. :-) It's just another
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 15:16 -0400, Neal Becker wrote:
But, I hope this doesn't mean f12 is out of sync with f13, f14, master.
They should all be identical.
It looks like f12, f14, and rawhide are all the same, and f13 has one
extra commit:
$ git show-branch
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 15:56 -0400, Matt McCutchen wrote:
$ git show-branch remotes/origin/{f12/,f13/,f14/,}master
$ git diff refs/remotes/origin/{f12,f13}/master
To avoid any possible confusion: the inconsistency in the arguments I
used was just sloppy, it doesn't have a special meaning. git
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 10:23 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 12:14 -0500, Mike McGrath wrote:
The intent is not to do so in the final release, AIUI. We're only
keeping it around during pre-release, so that if we decide we need to
fall back to upstart for final
On Tue, 2010-08-24 at 22:32 +0200, drago01 wrote:
[...] In the event that F14 goes back
to upstart, the final release will use a configuration that may not have
received much testing. If we want to claim that it's safe to switch
back to upstart after beta, we need to be testing that
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 13:16 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 09:24:42PM +0200, Till Maas wrote:
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 06:49:33PM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
I think run X as user Xorg if you're on KMS would be a fine
F15Feature to aim for. Ubuntu's been
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 08:12 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Roberto Ragusa wrote:
Some more tags for functionally comparable to and the name of
some well known programs for Windows or Macintosh would let
people cope with the original names of Linux apps.
Nero - k3b, xcdroast
Adobe
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 07:41 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 07:29:35PM -0700, Matt McCutchen wrote:
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 22:43 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 08:02:13AM -0400, seth vidal wrote:
I am a libguestfs user and I'm
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 22:43 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 08:02:13AM -0400, seth vidal wrote:
I am a libguestfs user and I'm complaining. It means I have to schlep
down a bunch of extra info on every update of libguestfs and that sucks
on my bandwidth.
This is
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 21:31 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Adam Williamson wrote:
Shipping a Firefox with no ability to use Javascript would be more or
less equal to not shipping it, frankly. No-one would use the thing.
What I suggest is just to use the same old JavaScript interpreter we have
On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 18:26 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
But the end effect is, we're allowing a web browser to disable memory
protection, exposing all users to a severe security risk from merely
browsing web sites. IMHO, the performance improvements in JavaScript aren't
worth that risk.
An
On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 22:41 +0200, drago01 wrote:
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 9:45 PM, Matt McCutchen m...@mattmccutchen.net
wrote:
On Sun, 2010-08-15 at 18:26 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
But the end effect is, we're allowing a web browser to disable memory
protection, exposing all users
On Mon, 2010-08-16 at 01:15 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Some web sites are indeed abusing JavaScript.
A web site is
not and should not be an application, an application is not and should not
be a web site.
Just because you said so? Web applications bring enormous practical
benefits to
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 22:59 +0200, Julian Sikorski wrote:
Is the karma getting reset upon an edit?
I don't have an answer to the question, but FYI, there is an open ticket
about it:
https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ticket/388
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On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 23:29 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
On 08/12/2010 10:59 PM, Matt McCutchen wrote:
That's why I'm so frustrated that Fedora seems to be committed
to keeping the Mozilla trademarks, which moot any discussion of whether
to deviate for those packages. But this is only my
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 07:56 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 08/13/2010 07:11 AM, Matt McCutchen wrote:
Let's try that again. Fedora has no obligation to you; nothing entitles
you (or anyone for that matter) to push updates or even to post to this
list.
... and people are free to have
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 10:59 +0200, Andreas Schwab wrote:
Martin Gieseking martin.giesek...@uos.de writes:
Am 12.08.2010 10:32, schrieb Jaroslav Reznik:
But as you can see on [1]: http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/ BROKEN
(listing 10K+ packages does not work). Use e.g.
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 11:20 +0200, Andreas Schwab wrote:
Matt McCutchen m...@mattmccutchen.net writes:
I went to https://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/ and it sat there
Generating for 5 minutes before I ran out of patience. I wouldn't
consider that working fine.
Try http
On Fri, 2010-08-13 at 03:33 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Chris Adams wrote:
Why are you here? All you do is shout about how everything that is done
is done wrong, and how you wanted to do it different but were out-voted.
Why don't you go start your own distribution? If you are right, then
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 22:26 -0700, Jesse Keating wrote:
Do you have any sort of proof that it's a political reason? It would
seem to me that our kernel maintainers do not wish to include code that
hasn't been blessed by Linus in our packages. Doing so has burned us in
the past, and perhaps
On Tue, 2010-08-10 at 09:07 -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
On Sun, Aug 8, 2010 at 14:04, Matt McCutchen m...@mattmccutchen.net wrote:
On Thu, 2010-08-05 at 22:23 +0200, Till Maas wrote:
Yes ssh is secure if used properly. To get the proper known_hosts entry,
one has to download https
On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 12:11 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sun, 2010-08-08 at 11:34 -0700, Matt McCutchen wrote:
On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 11:29 -0500, Steve Bonneville wrote:
i.g...@comcast.net wrote:
Ideally (from this perspective), the host would validate the response
itself
On Sun, 2010-08-08 at 09:24 +0100, Frank Murphy wrote:
On 08/08/10 03:25, Matt McCutchen wrote:
snip
Would it be any benefit to the maintainers\bugzappers.
If abrt opened the existing link, before it would report?
And then what? Encourage the user not to add a comment unless they have
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