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> From: "Václav Pavlín"
> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
>
> Cc: "Bill Nottingham"
> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 12:54:27 PM
> Subject: Re: ABRT in the comps group 'standard'
>
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On 6.12.2013 10:56, Jakub Filak wrote:
I'd like to add abrt-cli package to the comps group 'standard'.
Regarding the discussion, there are two main concernes about adding
abrt-cli to Standard comps group:
1) There will be some notifications popping up which can confuse users.
Not true. Noth
On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 13:51 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> No not really our distribution is filled with just packagers that
> dont
> know what to do with those reports...
So you're saying: "Our maintainers can't fix bugs, why bother filing
them at all?"? That doesn't make sense to me at
On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 20:06 +0100, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Jakub Filak wrote:
> > I'd like to add abrt-cli package to the comps group 'standard'.
> >
> > The package pulls core ABRT functionality for catching C/C++ crashes,
> > uncaught Python exceptions, Kernel oo
On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 12:08:22PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 13:18 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
>
> > And what purpose does abrt serve if there aren't people fixing the issue
> > it reports on the other end...
>
> Well, that's easy enough to shoot down.
>
>
On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 12:39 +0100, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> On 12/06/2013 12:14 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> > I would say that abrt should not be installed et all unless user has agreed
> > to it at install time.
>
> +1
>
> My mother would be puzzled, if ABRT would popup on her Fedora bo
On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 13:18 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> And what purpose does abrt serve if there aren't people fixing the issue
> it reports on the other end...
Well, that's easy enough to shoot down.
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=CLOSED&classification=Fedora&l
On Fri, 2013-12-06 at 16:07 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> > This approach has been
> > working perfectly for many years and I don't think much has changed in
> > that area lately.
> There were reports of abrt sending out private and confidential
> information to the net and reports of abrt sen
Miroslav Suchý (msu...@redhat.com) said:
> On 12/06/2013 01:59 PM, Václav Pavlín wrote:
> >I think abrt serves as good source of info in case of unexpected crashes,
> >which is quite important to have stable
> >system. So although being puzzled is not very nice, being disappointed by
> >crashing
On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Jakub Filak wrote:
> I'd like to add abrt-cli package to the comps group 'standard'.
>
> The package pulls core ABRT functionality for catching C/C++ crashes,
> uncaught Python exceptions, Kernel oopses and VMCore processing.
If -cli means no GUI, and thus no popu
On 12/06/2013 04:07 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 12/06/2013 02:45 PM, Michal Toman wrote:
On 06.12.2013 14:34, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 12/06/2013 02:14 PM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
ABRT does not send *any* information unless you agree to do it. Not even
the anonymous reports. It is true that
On 12/06/2013 02:45 PM, Michal Toman wrote:
On 06.12.2013 14:34, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 12/06/2013 02:14 PM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
ABRT does not send *any* information unless you agree to do it. Not even
the anonymous reports. It is true that the settings could be in Anaconda
and I think i
On 06.12.2013 14:51, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 12/06/2013 01:47 PM, Lukas Zapletal wrote:
We all do fix the application for his mother, after it's reported by
ABRT or any other means:-)
No not really our distribution is filled with just packagers that dont
know what to do with those
On 12/06/2013 02:34 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 12/06/2013 02:14 PM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
On 12/06/2013 02:10 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 12/06/2013 12:14 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 12/06/2013 09:56 AM, Jakub Filak wrote:
Hello,
I'd like to add abrt-cli package to the comps gr
On 12/06/2013 01:47 PM, Lukas Zapletal wrote:
We all do fix the application for his mother, after it's reported by
ABRT or any other means:-)
No not really our distribution is filled with just packagers that dont
know what to do with those reports...
ABRT should not be installed by default
On Fri, Dec 06, 2013 at 01:06:14PM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
> >>My mother would be puzzled, if ABRT would popup on her Fedora box.
> >
> >Your mother will be puzzled with crashing application as well.
> >Better to explain ABRT and have less crashing applications then
> >the opposite.
>
On 06.12.2013 14:34, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 12/06/2013 02:14 PM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
On 12/06/2013 02:10 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 12/06/2013 12:14 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 12/06/2013 09:56 AM, Jakub Filak wrote:
Hello,
I'd like to add abrt-cli package to the comps grou
On 12/06/2013 02:14 PM, Jiri Moskovcak wrote:
On 12/06/2013 02:10 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 12/06/2013 12:14 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 12/06/2013 09:56 AM, Jakub Filak wrote:
Hello,
I'd like to add abrt-cli package to the comps group 'standard'.
The package pulls core ABRT fu
On 12/06/2013 01:14 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote:
Dne 6.12.2013 14:05, Miroslav Suchý napsal(a):
On 12/06/2013 01:59 PM, Václav Pavlín wrote:
I think abrt serves as good source of info in case of unexpected
crashes, which is quite important to have stable
system. So although being puzzled is not very
On 12/06/2013 01:59 PM, Václav Pavlín wrote:
So try to look at it from broader perspective - I see more benefits in
having abrt installed.
Such as confidential business information being forwarded to RedHat and
being snooped by the NSA to forward it to your enterprise's competitor?
You migh
On 12/06/2013 02:10 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 12/06/2013 12:14 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 12/06/2013 09:56 AM, Jakub Filak wrote:
Hello,
I'd like to add abrt-cli package to the comps group 'standard'.
The package pulls core ABRT functionality for catching C/C++ crashes,
uncaugh
Dne 6.12.2013 14:05, Miroslav Suchý napsal(a):
On 12/06/2013 01:59 PM, Václav Pavlín wrote:
I think abrt serves as good source of info in case of unexpected
crashes, which is quite important to have stable
system. So although being puzzled is not very nice, being
disappointed by crashing applic
On 12/06/2013 02:08 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 12/06/2013 01:05 PM, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
On 12/06/2013 01:59 PM, Václav Pavlín wrote:
I think abrt serves as good source of info in case of unexpected
crashes, which is quite important to have stable
system. So although being puzzled
On 12/06/2013 12:14 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 12/06/2013 09:56 AM, Jakub Filak wrote:
Hello,
I'd like to add abrt-cli package to the comps group 'standard'.
The package pulls core ABRT functionality for catching C/C++ crashes,
uncaught Python exceptions, Kernel oopses and VMCore p
On 12/06/2013 02:06 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
On 12/06/2013 12:51 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote:
Dne 6.12.2013 12:39, Miroslav Suchý napsal(a):
On 12/06/2013 12:14 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
I would say that abrt should not be installed et all unless user has
agreed to it at install
On 12/06/2013 01:05 PM, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
On 12/06/2013 01:59 PM, Václav Pavlín wrote:
I think abrt serves as good source of info in case of unexpected
crashes, which is quite important to have stable
system. So although being puzzled is not very nice, being
disappointed by crashing applic
On 12/06/2013 12:51 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote:
Dne 6.12.2013 12:39, Miroslav Suchý napsal(a):
On 12/06/2013 12:14 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
I would say that abrt should not be installed et all unless user has
agreed to it at install time.
+1
My mother would be puzzled, if ABRT would po
On 12/06/2013 01:59 PM, Václav Pavlín wrote:
I think abrt serves as good source of info in case of unexpected crashes, which
is quite important to have stable
system. So although being puzzled is not very nice, being disappointed by
crashing applications is much worse from my
point of view.
So
On Pá 6. prosinec 2013, 12:39:09 CET, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
On 12/06/2013 12:14 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
I would say that abrt should not be installed et all unless user has
agreed to it at install time.
I think abrt serves as good source of info in case of unexpected
crashes, whi
Dne 6.12.2013 12:39, Miroslav Suchý napsal(a):
On 12/06/2013 12:14 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
I would say that abrt should not be installed et all unless user has
agreed to it at install time.
+1
My mother would be puzzled, if ABRT would popup on her Fedora box.
Your mother will b
On 12/06/2013 12:14 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote:
I would say that abrt should not be installed et all unless user has agreed to
it at install time.
+1
My mother would be puzzled, if ABRT would popup on her Fedora box.
--
Miroslav Suchy, RHCE, RHCDS
Red Hat, Software Engineer, #brno, #d
On 12/06/2013 09:56 AM, Jakub Filak wrote:
Hello,
I'd like to add abrt-cli package to the comps group 'standard'.
The package pulls core ABRT functionality for catching C/C++ crashes,
uncaught Python exceptions, Kernel oopses and VMCore processing.
There is a bugzilla bug requesting this chan
Hello,
I'd like to add abrt-cli package to the comps group 'standard'.
The package pulls core ABRT functionality for catching C/C++ crashes,
uncaught Python exceptions, Kernel oopses and VMCore processing.
There is a bugzilla bug requesting this change:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?
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