On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
KDE has the setting in Apper under [Tools icon⌄] Preferences in the first
(selected by default) tab (General Settings). It's called Check for
updates:, and it's a dropdown list with the options Hourly, Daily,
Weekly,
Upon doing a yum
upgrade, but rejecting the actual upgrade:
[root@localhost cache]# du -sh *
94M dnf
446M PackageKit
137M yum
Is it considered safe to uninstall yum on F21 and keep only dnf for cli package
management?
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2014 04:34:46 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Richard Hughes wrote:
I'm erring on the network panel in gnome-control-center; but I agree
there's no really good place for this kind of thing.
KDE has the setting in Apper under [Tools icon⌄] Preferences in the
first (selected by
On 17 December 2014 at 00:00, Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote:
This particular setting is
frequently-requested and extremely important for users in the developing
world and users who tether, so I think it would be good to provide it
somewhere in the UI. (But where?)
I'm erring on
On 16 December 2014 at 23:40, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
feels like new faster and larger hardware is for 90% used that developers
don't need to consider ressource constraints because i don#t see that much
more functionality or in fact over the last 10 years GNOME vene removed
Am 17.12.2014 um 10:17 schrieb Richard Hughes:
On 16 December 2014 at 23:40, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
feels like new faster and larger hardware is for 90% used that developers
don't need to consider ressource constraints because i don#t see that much
more functionality or in
On Tue Dec 16 2014 at 9:09:59 PM Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com
wrote:
Fresh installation of Fedora 21 Workstation, accepting defaults, I
then reboot and notice the following contents of /var/cache, filtering
out things not relevant for this discussion (which also happen to not
change
/*Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com*/ wrote on Wed, 17 Dec 2014
09:14:38 +:
On 17 December 2014 at 00:00, Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org wrote:
This particular setting is
frequently-requested and extremely important for users in the developing
world and users who tether, so I
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote:
On 16 December 2014 at 20:09, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:
[root@localhost cache]# du -sh *
94M dnf
446M PackageKit
4.0K yum
I think you're overstating the amount of metadata for PK for two reasons:
Hi,
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 4:14 AM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm erring on the network panel in gnome-control-center; but I agree
there's no really good place for this kind of thing.
maybe key whether or not to download updates based on the zone (which
is used strictly for
On Dec 17, 2014 4:44 AM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote:
On 17 December 2014 at 00:00, Michael Catanzaro mcatanz...@gnome.org
wrote:
This particular setting is
frequently-requested and extremely important for users in the developing
world and users who tether, so I think it would
Richard Hughes wrote:
I'm erring on the network panel in gnome-control-center; but I agree
there's no really good place for this kind of thing.
KDE has the setting in Apper under [Tools icon⌄] Preferences in the first
(selected by default) tab (General Settings). It's called Check for
On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 4:17 AM, Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote:
On 16 December 2014 at 23:40, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
feels like new faster and larger hardware is for 90% used that developers
don't need to consider ressource constraints because i don#t see that
Fresh installation of Fedora 21 Workstation, accepting defaults, I
then reboot and notice the following contents of /var/cache, filtering
out things not relevant for this discussion (which also happen to not
change between the three states).
Starting point right after installation:
/*Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com*/ wrote on Tue, 16 Dec 2014
13:09:47 -0700:
Fresh installation of Fedora 21 Workstation, accepting defaults, I
then reboot and notice the following contents of /var/cache, filtering
out things not relevant for this discussion (which also happen to not
/*Colin Walters walt...@verbum.org*/ wrote on Mon, 15 Dec 2014
15:32:09 -0500:
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014, at 02:17 PM, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote:
and then a
'systemctl mask ...' command to mask dnf makecache timer/service using
sudo/su;
This one should help with that one:
On 16 December 2014 at 20:09, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:
[root@localhost cache]# du -sh *
94M dnf
446M PackageKit
4.0K yum
I think you're overstating the amount of metadata for PK for two reasons:
1. This is for my current system, with a few repos installed:
67M
Am 16.12.2014 um 22:29 schrieb Richard Hughes:
On 16 December 2014 at 20:09, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote:
[root@localhost cache]# du -sh *
94M dnf
446M PackageKit
4.0K yum
I think you're overstating the amount of metadata for PK for two reasons:
no
1. This is for my
On Mon, 2014-12-15 at 14:45 +, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 15 December 2014 at 14:38, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
...grown up user expects
grown up users (whatever that means) can do gsettings set
org.gnome.software download-updates false
Richard
My $0.02:
You've done
On 13 December 2014 at 21:10, Hedayat Vatankhah hedayat@gmail.com wrote:
Surprisingly, PackageKit uses its own separate cache.
Not surprising at all, when you're familiar with how PackageKit works.
PackageKit has to accept transactions from clients and return results
very quickly. Just
/*Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com*/ wrote on Mon, 15 Dec 2014
09:37:27 +:
On 13 December 2014 at 21:10, Hedayat Vatankhahhedayat@gmail.com wrote:
Surprisingly, PackageKit uses its own separate cache.
Not surprising at all, when you're familiar with how PackageKit works.
On 15 December 2014 at 13:09, Hedayat Vatankhah hedayat@gmail.com wrote:
1. If PK really needs its own *copy* of the cache, that's OK (well, not OK
but acceptable), but IMHO it should not download it independently too.
But yum/dnf only download the files it needs for the single operation,
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 2:09 PM, Hedayat Vatankhah
hedayat@gmail.com wrote:
2. I believe that the use should know, and more importantly be able to
control WHEN the repo data is being updated. At the very least, he should be
able to specify if the updates are automatic or not using a very
Am 15.12.2014 um 14:29 schrieb Richard Hughes:
At the moment the PK front-ends only download when on wifi or wired.
Do you have an actual use-case for per-network configuration?
Well I think the whole idea of wifi === unmetered is flawed. For example I
use a UMTS/Wifi router so I can use
On 12/15/2014 09:38 AM, Felix Schwarz wrote:
Am 15.12.2014 um 14:29 schrieb Richard Hughes:
At the moment the PK front-ends only download when on wifi or wired.
Do you have an actual use-case for per-network configuration?
Well I think the whole idea of wifi === unmetered is flawed. For
On 15 December 2014 at 14:08, Felix Schwarz fschw...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Well I think the whole idea of wifi === unmetered is flawed.
It's as good a metric as we've got. When you set up a personal bridge
between UMTS/wifi, or even GPRS/wired there's no metadata on the
connection about this
Am 15.12.2014 um 15:32 schrieb Richard Hughes:
On 15 December 2014 at 14:08, Felix Schwarz fschw...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Well I think the whole idea of wifi === unmetered is flawed.
It's as good a metric as we've got. When you set up a personal bridge
between UMTS/wifi, or even
On 15 December 2014 at 14:38, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
...grown up user expects
grown up users (whatever that means) can do gsettings set
org.gnome.software download-updates false
Richard
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Am 15.12.2014 um 15:45 schrieb Richard Hughes:
On 15 December 2014 at 14:38, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
...grown up user expects
grown up users (whatever that means) can do gsettings set
org.gnome.software download-updates false
sarcasmwhat a nice usability/sarcasm
On 12/15/2014 10:02 AM, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 15 December 2014 at 14:08, Felix Schwarz fschw...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
Well I think the whole idea of wifi === unmetered is flawed.
It's as good a metric as we've got. When you set up a personal bridge
between UMTS/wifi, or even GPRS/wired
On 15 December 2014 at 15:07, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
sarcasmwhat a nice usability/sarcasm
I don't think usability means what you think it means.
Richard.
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Am 15.12.2014 um 16:43 schrieb Richard Hughes:
On 15 December 2014 at 15:07, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
sarcasmwhat a nice usability/sarcasm
I don't think usability means what you think it means
it means to have options visible and not burried in a windows like GNOME
On 12/15/2014 10:15 AM, Richard Hughes wrote:
On 15 December 2014 at 14:38, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
...grown up user expects
grown up users (whatever that means) can do gsettings set
org.gnome.software download-updates false
Devices designed for not grown up users has
Robert Marcano wrote:
I don't know why the time to rebuild rpms is important, updates are now
applied at boot time, so rpms can be rebuilt with smaller nice/ionice
before the user reboots (on Workstation product).
Offline updates are only a (mis)feature of the GNOME Workstation product.
The
On Mon, 2014-12-15 at 18:01 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Robert Marcano wrote:
I don't know why the time to rebuild rpms is important, updates are now
applied at boot time, so rpms can be rebuilt with smaller nice/ionice
before the user reboots (on Workstation product).
Offline updates are
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 01:29:21PM +, Richard Hughes wrote:
At the moment the PK front-ends only download when on wifi or wired.
Do you have an actual use-case for per-network configuration?
I'd definitely like to select which wifi connections are used. I don't
want to be eating up the
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Matthias Clasen mcla...@redhat.com wrote:
On Mon, 2014-12-15 at 18:01 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Robert Marcano wrote:
I don't know why the time to rebuild rpms is important, updates are now
applied at boot time, so rpms can be rebuilt with smaller
/*Matthias Clasen*/ wrote on Mon, 15 Dec 2014 12:38:54 -0500:
On Mon, 2014-12-15 at 18:01 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote:
Robert Marcano wrote:
I don't know why the time to rebuild rpms is important, updates are now
applied at boot time, so rpms can be rebuilt with smaller nice/ionice
before the
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014, at 02:17 PM, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote:
and then a
'systemctl mask ...' command to mask dnf makecache timer/service using
sudo/su;
This one should help with that one:
https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf/pull/186
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/*Samuel Sieb sam...@sieb.net*/ wrote on Sat, 13 Dec 2014 23:32:23 -0800:
On 12/13/2014 01:10 PM, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote:
Hi!
I noticed that F21 can potentially download repository metadata 3 times:
1. Yum cache 2. DNF cache 3. PackageKit cache! It really hurts to see
I'm not aware of the
On Sunday, December 14, 2014 12:09:14 PM Hedayat Vatankhah wrote:
I'd call it evil. Apparently, nobody around here cares. I think I should
start thinking about my own Fedora for Poor product.
It certainly affects me.
Most decision are being made on two assumptions 1. people have fast and
Hi
On Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 5:17 AM, Sudhir Khanger wrote:
DNF
regularly downloads cache, disables delta RPM support, and doesn't support
local repos.
With the latest dnf update, Delta RPM support is enabled again.
Sudhir Khanger wrote:
Most decision are being made on two assumptions 1. people have fast and
unlimited internet connections and 2. people have high RAM and multiple
core CPU powerful computers. Both of these assumptions are arbitrarily at
best. DNF regularly downloads cache, disables delta
On Dec 14, 2014 10:12 PM, Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at wrote:
Sudhir Khanger wrote:
Most decision are being made on two assumptions 1. people have fast and
unlimited internet connections and 2. people have high RAM and multiple
core CPU powerful computers. Both of these assumptions
Hi!
I noticed that F21 can potentially download repository metadata 3 times:
1. Yum cache 2. DNF cache 3. PackageKit cache! It really hurts to see
how Fedora ignorance towards different kind of users is being increased
as time passes. If Fedora is an international distro, it should try to
Am 13.12.2014 um 22:10 schrieb Hedayat Vatankhah:
I noticed that F21 can potentially download repository metadata 3 times:
1. Yum cache 2. DNF cache 3. PackageKit cache! It really hurts to see
how Fedora ignorance towards different kind of users is being increased
as time passes. If Fedora is
/*Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net*/ wrote on Sat, 13 Dec 2014
22:19:25 +0100:
Am 13.12.2014 um 22:10 schrieb Hedayat Vatankhah:
I noticed that F21 can potentially download repository metadata 3 times:
1. Yum cache 2. DNF cache 3. PackageKit cache! It really hurts to see
how Fedora
On 12/13/2014 01:10 PM, Hedayat Vatankhah wrote:
Hi!
I noticed that F21 can potentially download repository metadata 3 times:
1. Yum cache 2. DNF cache 3. PackageKit cache! It really hurts to see
I'm not aware of the PackageKit cache, where is it?
I did accidentally discover about dnf
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