Re: F27 Self Contained Change: Decouple system java setting from java command setting

2017-06-28 Thread Michael Šimáček
On 2017-06-16 18:44, Dennis Gilmore wrote: I would like to see some details on how this is going to be implemented. It all seem very vague and handwavy I've just updated the proposal [1] to be more concrete and detailed. Let me know if there are still unclear points. [1]

Re: F27 Self Contained Change: Decouple system java setting from java command setting

2017-06-21 Thread Michael Šimáček
On 2017-06-20 20:07, nicolas.mail...@laposte.net wrote: Hi, Frankly, the proposed change seems a great way to accumulate technical debt at a rapid pace, by helping apps to specify various legacy or proprietary Java variants, and postponing taking into account openjdk changes indefinitely.

Re: F27 Self Contained Change: Decouple system java setting from java command setting

2017-06-20 Thread nicolas . mailhot
Hi, Frankly, the proposed change seems a great way to accumulate technical debt at a rapid pace, by helping apps to specify various legacy or proprietary Java variants, and postponing taking into account openjdk changes indefinitely. That's more or less what the proprietary unixes did till the

Re: F27 Self Contained Change: Decouple system java setting from java command setting

2017-06-20 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On 06/20/2017 10:48 AM, Jiri Vanek wrote: > There are may reasons to not to do this change. At least not to do this > as it is specified. I would like to hear your reasons. > Where is best place to discus? Discussion already started at > java-proj...@redhat.com.[1] Fedora devel list is the

Re: F27 Self Contained Change: Decouple system java setting from java command setting

2017-06-20 Thread Mikolaj Izdebski
On 06/16/2017 06:44 PM, Dennis Gilmore wrote: > I would like to see some details on how this is going to be > implemented. It is going to be implemented by updating javapackages-tools package in Fedora 27 to new upstream release, which includes this change:

Re: F27 Self Contained Change: Decouple system java setting from java command setting

2017-06-20 Thread Jiri Vanek
There are may reasons to not to do this change. At least not to do this as it is specified. Where is best place to discus? Discussion already started at java-proj...@redhat.com.[1] Please advice, J. [1] http://post-office.corp.redhat.com/archives/java-project/2017-June/date.html On

Re: F27 Self Contained Change: Decouple system java setting from java command setting

2017-06-16 Thread Dennis Gilmore
I would like to see some details on how this is going to be implemented. It all seem very vague and handwavy El jue, 08-06-2017 a las 15:55 +0200, Jan Kurik escribió: > = Proposed Self Contained Change: Decouple system java setting from > java command setting = >

F27 Self Contained Change: Decouple system java setting from java command setting

2017-06-08 Thread Jan Kurik
= Proposed Self Contained Change: Decouple system java setting from java command setting = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Decouple_system_java_setting_from_java_command_setting Change owner(s): * Michael Simacek * Mikolaj Izdebski Alternatives can be used to specify which Java